Not quite oneself after regression meditation?

[Li. La.]

Hello, just wondering how long does it take until one is back to "normal" after a regression meditation?
Can the tiredness depend upon what one see?

In my regression I claimed to have lived a past life as "Laura", in New Zealand but that the family originating from some English talking country and culture. (Apparently the year 1908 was important, but don't ask me why). I was asked about my job and began to explain that we were part of a missionary group and that I liked being in New Zealand, had friends there and I saw people that laughed and were friendly that I later looked up and they resembled "the Maori race". Have found very old photos from site https://antiquephotographics.com/stereoviews/new-zealand-stereos/ , believe me I have no idea what I am talking about; have gone through maps and what have you afterwards. She was also involved with children in a religious way and at school. It felt as a mutual interest and respect between from where Laura came from and the Maori population. From what I could tell there was no prejudice there between them. The regression audio tape was found on youtube and the person asked me about my job; and as Laura it was as if I felt a bit confused at the question and the other questions regarding "my job" - because to her it was not as if she was not employed but still she was working, as if it was only the men that had jobs and that the wives were obliged to work - but still not call it work. Laura was dressed in a whitish blouse and a brownish skirt in one of my scenes (seen photos of a lady wearing that type of clothing in 1912).

I got that Laura was at peace with her husband, they were close and in harmony with each other. She also liked to take care of the home, it felt, and also as if she was dotting on her husband at home; as if this was her job as well. It was as if she felt blessed because he was so kind to her, as if she was well aware that she could have ended up with a husband who was not. I only had a very short image of Laura stepping out of a double bed, but smaller ones, in her nightgown and that her body ached, were bruises on her legs, thigh even what I could see from the full moon's light pouring into the bedroom window as she was getting out of bed. I felt a male presence sleeping beside her, as if she was very aware of the way he was breathing when he was sleeping. It was basically as if she quickly took her belongings (clothing, shoes) and then ran into the night. The body aching and on the look of what was bruises it could have come from hard work, accidents or someone causing this. I could also sense with her that she did not like alcohol, that it reminded her of something bad like just her looking at a bottle made her almost paralyzed. On her way out I saw an empty rock. I don't know if she ever had a baby or if she was pregnant, but if she was she could not have come long in her pregnancy. It was as if I knew that the man sleeping in bed and her husband later on was not the same man. I sensed - for unknown reason - that the man in bed had been in some kind of war or battle and had changed. It all felt very country-like where she had gotten up from the bed; many things made of wood. Outside was a carriage in wood and a stall made of wood where horses were kept, it was as if she was aiming to get to the stall or at least looking that way. I think maybe because I am tired is because I felt how hard I was trying to push this experience aside?

I only got glimpses here and there and not so much to go on and of course I doubt if this ever happened, if that was once really me.

I experienced a sudden surprise of getting a huge wooden pole that fell over somehow and hit Laura close to the stomach area (I would say on the side) before she could get away. I don't know if it injured or killed her. After that scene I just started to move about and look again - without thinking "fully awake" as I was suppose to. I've done it later - a few times - but I'm still "off".

I have not read anywhere that one need perhaps more rest or sleep in order to be back to one old self and be on the alert, but maybe that is what it takes?

Please share - how are you after a regression? Does it take time or perhaps not any? Is it because I'm just new at this regression type of thing?

Thank you
/Li La

 

[glia21]

Hi li la
Regression meditation seems to work pretty well with you
I wished I'd see and experience as much as you do!
To answer your question, whenever I try a youtube regression I get very tired too and feel a little beside myself the whole day. I usually try to regress in the morning or shortly before noon. Its sometimes difficult to talk to people afterwards, I'm usually in a nervous condition and not in the mood for small talk.
Which YouTube Video did you use?
The only one that worked for me was the Brian Weiss video. Last time I did it I saw the image or rather a glimpse of a woman who was in her 50ies maybe, dressed in a long gown, light brown hair, passing me by and then me entering a motel room and shooting two young men. One had tried to attack me. Great memory.

 

[Li. La.]

Hi li la
Regression meditation seems to work pretty well with you
I wished I'd see and experience as much as you do!
To answer your question, whenever I try a youtube regression I get very tired too and feel a little beside myself the whole day. I usually try to regress in the morning or shortly before noon. Its sometimes difficult to talk to people afterwards, I'm usually in a nervous condition and not in the mood for small talk.
Which YouTube Video did you use?
The only one that worked for me was the Brian Weiss video. Last time I did it I saw the image or rather a glimpse of a woman who was in her 50ies maybe, dressed in a long gown, light brown hair, passing me by and then me entering a motel room and shooting two young men. One had tried to attack me. Great memory.

Thank you for the reply Then it is not just me. I have tried this one:

To me it was as if I was almost hypnotized twice; first one is told to go on a beach with numbers that one will erase and then as I was told to look into a fire; something happened with the whole fire-thing there, as if I sunk in deeper. When I woke up I tried to write down as quick as I could anything useful but if I am ever gonna get anywhere I think I have to get hypnotized again and hopefully get to Laura once more, if now she ever was real that is. Because one get so tired I don't know if it is unhealthy to try too soon again or what to do. It sounds as if you were living in the midst of the cowboy-era? Good thing you could defend yourself, I will try Brian Weiss, thank you for the advice

 

[glia21]

I`ll check this out later - I`m curious if it will work with me
No… not cowboy era, really It was the 1950ies or 60ies. And I had made a terrible decision. I could have handled it all differently, I didn´t need to shoot anybody down. They were really quite young, probably almost teenagers, and stupid and I was in a bad condition. You see none of them had guns or if they did they wouldn´t have used them. I saw myself cursing and shouting at them afterwards, feeling really bad about it.

If you feel well and you are curious I see no problem in trying again soon. I believe it´s quite safe you needn´t worry. Somebody wrote about a terror barrier - so things that would be unhealthy, too disturbing or unbearable you most likely won´t experience anyway.

 

[fireflydancing]

HI @Li. La.

This happens to me as well now and then. Especially when I went deep. In fact, I am in such a state right now and I don't mind very much. It is going on for days now, but in my case, it is also a state of consciousness in which I get more and more information on different levels. I am enjoying my winter holidays, so there is no need to be productive at work or other obligations.
When this state is bothering you, you should do some work to ground yourself. Taking showers, swimming, walk in the woods, sports... you know what I mean. 'Force' yourself to go back in your body.

I love reading your stories about Anna and Laura. It might be interesting for you to focus on some similarities between their lives. Did they repeat some patterns or issues? But experienced from a different angle?
I ask this because this just happened to me these past days. I suddenly realized that two separate lives had much in common, with a different ending. And then I came to see the relation to my life Now and the very last past life. This was mind blowing, but still work in progress.
The great thing about living in an altered state of consciousness for a few days, is that I also am able to see/feel/sense/understand bigger pictures of life, beyond reincarnation. (next week I'll have to get back to work, so I just enjoy it until then)

 

[Spirit Sword]

I would say physical reaction tends to depend on what you see and how deep into your unconscious mind you were able to penetrate.

I have often been exhausted after regression sessions for several hours (though this usually only sets in after I shake off the adrenaline from whatever unpleasant event I have just experienced). I can also have a hard time judging dehydration/hunger levels afterwards, so eating and drinking plenty of water is usually a safe bet. I tend to do regressions shortly before bed so that if I am struggling afterwards, I can just go to sleep.

Spending extended periods of time in a regressed mindset is a bit interesting. For the most part, I do not mind not being completely present as my current self (in fact, it can be fun). As fireflydancing mentioned, it makes seeing the parallels much easier. It really gives me a sense of who I am as a sum of all of my previous experiences and seems to open me up to a higher understanding that I cannot exactly put into words. It can also be useful for gaining more information. When I research in a regressed mindset, I can more easily remember related information from my experiences and have even picked up certain skills at a swifter pace. The drawbacks are, of course, issues focusing on certain kinds of tasks, occasional lack of ability to comprehend the immediacy of a situation, or any negative effects brought on by a particular lifetime. I have mentioned in other posts that I sometimes would get too far into the mindset of a certain lifetime and would then be constantly anxious that people were hunting me down (as they once were). It is a bit of a trade-off.

 

[Ritter]

Food, sleep, time in nature, reading books and Golden Light meditation. Do note the latter. I use that as a recharging mechanism. There are things that take energy and things that give energy. Do things that give you energy.

It can be good to change up how you eat. Do something new. I am a very food-oriented person, so I guess it could be particular to me.

 

[Li. La.]

Thank you all very much for all the good advice! It certainly did help.

After the regression I have had some "live" glimpses just like I used to have from another experienced past life (Anna), but now they are gone. It was almost as if one still stood with one foot in the past as Laura and another in the present time as me.

I have researched on the net and have found that there were different types of missionaries that came to New Zealand and they were also starting up schools. Apparently some also bought and took land for almost nothing from the Maoris so there was a backside to the coin, tricking them. There was also another type that came from other parts of the world and that was people that had run away from their criminal past, judgement.

I have read about marriages around that era and found that the husband could divorce the wife on her "deserting" the home, (but that the wife had to have a long list of various kind of brutality in order to get one at first. Then as time passed having been a deserted wife for five years did the trick; then one was allowed to divorce). If any of my experiences are true it could mean that Laura knew exactly what she was doing when she was climbing out of bed that night and leaving the husband and home - giving him the legal reason to divorce her.

New Zealand gave women the right to vote early on compared to other countries.

New Zealand was part of Britain so when World War I began for the British people - men in New Zealand became soldiers fighting for Britain's cause.

On some photos I have seen I also see that typical wood everywhere - the houses, the carriages, the warm weather, the sand.

I have certainly learned something about the New Zealand history that I did not know before.

I have a loose theory that maybe Laura's first husband was a so called criminal dude from the past + traumatized soldier who did her wrong in some way and that was why she could not handle it in the end and left? I had a feeling that she liked keeping herself busy and liked to help out. That was why I think the bruises could have come from her physically working out and having accidents without thinking twice about it, like that just happened. I have also read about women having fatal or being injured when falling off horses around this period in New Zealand, so it could be that as well - since I saw the horse stall and the horse carriage. I would not have seen the bruises if the moon did not shine in the window that night and her nightgown did not get wrapped up as she was leaving the bed. Another theory I have is that the first husband caused them, in worst scenario when she was pregnant. Maybe that was what gave her the determination to leave and being part of the missionary group that gave her a home. Her looking at bottles the way she did indicates to me that perhaps the first husband had "only" done this when he was a mean drunk and perhaps did not even remember it afterwards? (When come to think about it I have always had an almost abnormal fear of living far out in the country, isolated - as if no one can help you out if something happens and that it is more difficult to leave).

I have one "live" flashback that I don't know if it is made up or what. It was very emotional. It came after I had for hours had anxiety as Laura; as if she was afraid of the husband finding her and doing something. After the scene I am about to write about the anxiety went away as strange as that may sound. So the scene was that Laura was sitting in a carriage and a man (perhaps a "close" neighbor, perhaps a friend from the church) was beside her, "driving"; and as they came in sight of the house and land where I saw earlier Laura leaving in the night - it was now broad day light - she saw a man (probably the first husband) hanging in a tree in front of the house; and it was as if she was on her way to leave the carriage before the man could stop it; almost as if she was falling down all together - from the sight of the man being hanged; she could not stand on her feet, like she had no skeleton left in her back, in her body; she had one hand over her mouth screaming, and crying in a strange way and the other hand over her stomach, which wasn't that big. The man next to her was both putting his hands on her shoulders, and the next to go to the man hanging in the tree. I am sorry for the grim story. This vision also strengthen the feelings I had that the husband had changed, that he needed help.

I did the meditation in order to try to find another past life experienced (Anna) true identity - or someone close to her so I could trace her and finally know if she is a product of my imagination or if it has all been true - just to end up being Laura; feels like one is going around in circles, but I'm gonna keep trying.

The comparisons I can see so far from Laura's and Anna's lives where the feeling that one was on the move - like one lived in a place a couple of years and then moved again and perhaps that death came without much warning. Also that they lived in the shadow of two world wars.

Thanks again

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Li. La.,

Well, the comparisons I can see so far from Laura's and Anna's lives is that they are both very likable and worthwhile people. These are women who went through some tough and trying times and issues, and came through them without bitterness and dedicated to making life better for themselves and those around them. I think the people around Laura and Anna were lucky to have them in their lives, and I think most of them knew it.

Cordially,
S&S

 

[Kenz1010]

Hi Li La,

This doesn’t directly pertain to a regression, but I’ve felt very different after flashbacks (I assume flashbacks and regression have some correlation). This probably sounds weird, but I swear my eyes have changed lol. Sometimes I even get freaked out by them when looking into the mirror because they’re so ‘crazy’ looking. Also have become insanely ornery, short tempered. Tired lately as well, so I think catching up on sleep can help if a recollection/ memory is draining. Do you have any sort of odd feelings that have come about since recalling these things? Because as these flashbacks have come about, I feel more and more lonely and feel like I miss my friends. Not friends from this life though, which confuses me because I haven’t had a specific memory of the men I was close with in that past life, but I feel there was a good group of them. I might meditate on it later. Anyway, let me know if you’ve experienced a similar feeling without having a direct memory.

 

[Li. La.]

Hi Li. La.,

Well, the comparisons I can see so far from Laura's and Anna's lives is that they are both very likable and worthwhile people. These are women who went through some tough and trying times and issues, and came through them without bitterness and dedicated to making life better for themselves and those around them. I think the people around Laura and Anna were lucky to have them in their lives, and I think most of them knew it.

Cordially,
S&S

Thank you so very much for thinking that, that warms my heart

 

[Totoro]

The first couple major break throughs I had, I felt weird for a month, but it went away and got easier. I haven't done it in a long time, but when I did it was for short session and I never really got much out of it, which is probably why I didn't continue it.

I think in general though, most people do it before bed. I'm curious if through meditation, you don't put yourself into a waking REM sleep state, which is why sometimes you can feel like you woke up during a nap in the middle of the day. That usually leaves me feeling foggy.

 

[Li. La.]

Hi Li La,

This doesn’t directly pertain to a regression, but I’ve felt very different after flashbacks (I assume flashbacks and regression have some correlation). This probably sounds weird, but I swear my eyes have changed lol. Sometimes I even get freaked out by them when looking into the mirror because they’re so ‘crazy’ looking. Also have become insanely ornery, short tempered. Tired lately as well, so I think catching up on sleep can help if a recollection/ memory is draining. Do you have any sort of odd feelings that have come about since recalling these things? Because as these flashbacks have come about, I feel more and more lonely and feel like I miss my friends. Not friends from this life though, which confuses me because I haven’t had a specific memory of the men I was close with in that past life, but I feel there was a good group of them. I might meditate on it later. Anyway, let me know if you’ve experienced a similar feeling without having a direct memory.

Hi Kenz1010! I can relate to what you are writing about. I think it is a bit of a mental struggle to get flashbacks from an experienced past life and at the same time stay in this current one, in this reality. About the eyes I think perhaps it is because your unconscious mind is closer than many others to the surface and you might at some level remember the layers, what you used to look like? Maybe you have a temporarily short temper because your walls are down and you feel, sense and see things in a more naked state - so you are overly alert, so to speak; as if your brain is ready for danger. Feelings of sadness and longing and in my case even shame and regrets will often follow after my flashbacks before one is able to shake it off. Also the feeling of loneliness. I try to think of it as one is going into different rooms and each room owns a specific feeling and/or event but that one can always leave that room and have a break, and perhaps go into another; that will make me feel better, as if I am in control and that the events are isolated, also that they only happened once - and not over and over again. We get hurt, we get bandage and then we get right up again. Even if things seem to happen right now, one has to tell oneself that it is a very long time ago over and over again and maybe the persons or souls involved are doing good and being happy right now. I think that the emotional part is the worst about this. A lot of times I have thought that I have enough emotions for this life than having to re experience emotions from a past one, but then again some emotions, memories are beautiful to have and then I don't regret having them. I have sensed feelings that I know have not come from this life and that I can't place but they are still there and still strong, as if they are just lurking about or lost in the fog; I can't get to them. I think perhaps some people walk around with anxiety or other emotions that own them that do not even come from this life which is why they can't place them nor understand why they have them. I am sorry you miss your friends from the past, perhaps thinking that they will or some have returned to you will make you feel better, at some level I think one is still connected even if one can perhaps only notice this under regression or in dreams, I kind of think of a soul group as being part of an energy field - we can be astray for a bit but then never lost but pulled back together; we just have different "jobs" to do but we will get back home again and then we will meet or that we will meet when we will do a "job" together. Take care

 

[Kenz1010]

Hi Kenz1010! I can relate to what you are writing about. I think it is a bit of a mental struggle to get flashbacks from an experienced past life and at the same time stay in this current one, in this reality. About the eyes I think perhaps it is because your unconscious mind is closer than many others to the surface and you might at some level remember the layers, what you used to look like? Maybe you have a temporarily short temper because your walls are down and you feel, sense and see things in a more naked state - so you are overly alert, so to speak; as if your brain is ready for danger. Feelings of sadness and longing and in my case even shame and regrets will often follow after my flashbacks before one is able to shake it off. Also the feeling of loneliness. I try to think of it as one is going into different rooms and each room owns a specific feeling and/or event but that one can always leave that room and have a break, and perhaps go into another; that will make me feel better, as if I am in control and that the events are isolated, also that they only happened once - and not over and over again. We get hurt, we get bandage and then we get right up again. Even if things seem to happen right now, one has to tell oneself that it is a very long time ago over and over again and maybe the persons or souls involved are doing good and being happy right now. I think that the emotional part is the worst about this. A lot of times I have thought that I have enough emotions for this life than having to re experience emotions from a past one, but then again some emotions, memories are beautiful to have and then I don't regret having them. I have sensed feelings that I know have not come from this life and that I can't place but they are still there and still strong, as if they are just lurking about or lost in the fog; I can't get to them. I think perhaps some people walk around with anxiety or other emotions that own them that do not even come from this life which is why they can't place them nor understand why they have them. I am sorry you miss your friends from the past, perhaps thinking that they will or some have returned to you will make you feel better, at some level I think one is still connected even if one can perhaps only notice this under regression or in dreams, I kind of think of a soul group as being part of an energy field - we can be astray for a bit but then never lost but pulled back together; we just have different "jobs" to do but we will get back home again and then we will meet or that we will meet when we will do a "job" together. Take care

I’ve never thought about it that way! It would make sense. As for my eyes, it’s like their intensity has changed, it’s honestly kind of frightening. I mean I’ve been told (a lot) that my eyes are intimidating and others can’t seem to hold eye contact for very long because of it, but I personally never really noticed what the “issue” was with them. But now it’s like I’m actually freaked out by them as well lol. Well you know what they say, “the eyes are the windows to the soul”.
And oh god my tempers been real bad.. I’m usually not this up tight and ornery but it just seems to come out of nowhere. And you’re also right about the being alert part, I’ve been overly cautious about everything lately. My walls are down, that’s for sure. I’d like to say I’ve become insane, to the point where I might need a mental facility I think you have some really good point of views. I hope I’ll come across my past buddies sometime in the future, I guess it’s just a knowing that I had some real close ones, and I have this overwhelming sense of loneliness from it, it’s odd. And I totally relate to you on feeling you already have enough going on in your current life, that you don’t need the bad emotions from the past added on top. I’m really glad you’ve been able to recall the good times though.

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Li. La.,

Your PL memories speak well of you, and are far more interesting to read (and more "real" to me) than some of the more gripping and/or spectacular accounts. That doesn't mean that the latter are not true, it is just that they don't really connect with my own life experiences and problems. Plus, the issues you have dealt with are essentially what life is all about--getting hit with problems and trying to make the best of it, getting knocked down and getting back up again, and struggling over and over again to make it come out right. I think it is really the same for most everyone.

An author once told me that the best stories all follow the same pattern. They are all struggles to overcome adversity. You give the main character a problem, then you make that problem successively worse (usually while adding in additional problems). The stories people like to read involve a character they like overcoming situations like this. The most realistic ones also let you know that it is a messy process, and very few come through perfectly or without "scars". But the best life stories and the biographies that actually inspire people are always like this--overcoming, learning, struggling, and personal/spiritual growth in the process. This also seems to be what the whole reincarnation process is all about.

Still, the stories we like to read are not the ones we like to live. I don't want the problems and I am sure you don't (and didn't) either. I can wax all philosophical about it, but what I really want is a trouble free life in a hammock under the palms. At least I think that's what I want.

Anyhow, the one who designed it all knows what we really need, and I have to continue to remind myself that I am lucky to be in better hands than my own.

Cordially,
S&S

 

[Li. La.]

Hi again, just wanna share that I have found 2 websites where one can search names etc where I have found a Laura who was a widower from a man who was listed during World War I as a captain and his occupation on enlistment was minister of religion. He did not die in 1918 but only relatively soon after. His wife was his next of kin and I have found other documents that she received allowance and that she worked as a teacher. This of course does not have to be at all the Laura I am looking for.

The links are great, though, here they are:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

https://www.nzwargraves.org.nz/

(Just gonna add a photo below. The girl in the front row with little blondish hair going on and dark dress with white collar resemble me a great deal when I was her age. She is number 5 from left. This photograph show members of the Mormon missionaries in Auckland, New Zealand in 1908. I have not seen what Laura looked like, though, so I could be way off. There are no names of the people in this photograph).

The photograph is copied from: http://www.nothingwavering.org/2009/06/07/12227-latter-day-saint-images-1908.html

(Link to pics of various schools in New Zealand long ago: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/parliamentary/AJHR1908-I.2.3.3.6)

OK, now I'll stop /Li La

 

[Ritter]

Hi again, just wanna share that I have found 2 websites where one can search names etc where I have found a Laura who was a widower from a man who was listed during World War I as a captain and his occupation on enlistment was minister of religion. He did not die in 1918 but only relatively soon after. His wife was his next of kin and I have found other documents that she received allowance and that she worked as a teacher. This of course does not have to be at all the Laura I am looking for.

The links are great, though, here they are:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

https://www.nzwargraves.org.nz/

(Just gonna add a photo below. The girl in the front row with little blondish hair going on and dark dress with white collar resemble me a great deal when I was her age. She is number 5 from left. This photograph show members of the Mormon missionaries in Auckland, New Zealand in 1908. I have not seen what Laura looked like, though, so I could be way off. There are no names of the people in this photograph).

The photograph is copied from: http://www.nothingwavering.org/2009/06/07/12227-latter-day-saint-images-1908.html

(Link to pics of various schools in New Zealand long ago: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/parliamentary/AJHR1908-I.2.3.3.6)

OK, now I'll stop /Li La

Mormon's, huh? I really like mormons. Used to have a few elders (missionaries) who came over for dinner, lunch or coffee every now and then. Eventually they moved back to Utah, where they came from. They of course wanted to baptize me and have me join their church, but I was not interested in that. They seem to know how to raise good upstanding people, anyway. I cannot fault their morals or behavior whatsoever, or what they have made for themselves, or their tremendous level of preparedness for whatever may come. After having been a mormon, how do you feel about them?

 

[Kenz1010]

Interesting find! Oh I’ve had some real experience with Mormons, there’s quite a lot over here. And by a lot I mean a lot. Majority of the people I know are Mormon, it’s an interesting religion.

 

[Li. La.]

Mormon's, huh? I really like mormons. Used to have a few elders (missionaries) who came over for dinner, lunch or coffee every now and then. Eventually they moved back to Utah, where they came from. They of course wanted to baptize me and have me join their church, but I was not interested in that. They seem to know how to raise good upstanding people, anyway. I cannot fault their morals or behavior whatsoever, or what they have made for themselves, or their tremendous level of preparedness for whatever may come. After having been a mormon, how do you feel about them?

I am just as surprised as the next and I had to go look to wikipedia to read about it, I have not met a mormon in my life that I know off at least and have no preferences, but it is good to know you like them, thank you for sharing the info. Looking back I do remember as a child having a vivid dream that there was a man standing in the sea, lake and people - grown ups - were coming to him and he was baptising them but I suppose but to my child's eyes I thought he was drowning them, so I was all upset and telling my mother this and the dream stayed with me for a long time. I could not understand why people by their own free will came into the water, one after the other and he took their heads under the water. In my own religion that my parents babtised me into one get babtised when one is only a baby in a church and the baby only get a little bit of water on it's head, they are certainly not put under water, so I think that was my only reference at the time. In the dream I was standing on the side, not in the ocean and it was as if the man who did the babtising knew who I was. My mom thought I had perhaps seen an old movie or something. I am thinking again of this dream because it was so much emotion in it and there was a carriage and horse in the dream as well, waiting aside. I think it could very well have been a glimpse of the past life as Laura but it never crossed my mind until today. I also get why people who research their family three gets so excited - I have been the same today when I found what I found so far, yet one is also in conflict with it, thinking of the captain who survived a war only to die still so young (it said unknown reason) after the war was over. I will keep searching and see if I can find out more. I can't believe these two websites are really out there for people to do research, it is amazing

 

[Li. La.]

Interesting find! Oh I’ve had some real experience with Mormons, there’s quite a lot over here. And by a lot I mean a lot. Majority of the people I know are Mormon, it’s an interesting religion.

What a coincidence, thanks for telling

 

[Li. La.]

Hi Li. La.,

Your PL memories speak well of you, and are far more interesting to read (and more "real" to me) than some of the more gripping and/or spectacular accounts. That doesn't mean that the latter are not true, it is just that they don't really connect with my own life experiences and problems. Plus, the issues you have dealt with are essentially what life is all about--getting hit with problems and trying to make the best of it, getting knocked down and getting back up again, and struggling over and over again to make it come out right. I think it is really the same for most everyone.

An author once told me that the best stories all follow the same pattern. They are all struggles to overcome adversity. You give the main character a problem, then you make that problem successively worse (usually while adding in additional problems). The stories people like to read involve a character they like overcoming situations like this. The most realistic ones also let you know that it is a messy process, and very few come through perfectly or without "scars". But the best life stories and the biographies that actually inspire people are always like this--overcoming, learning, struggling, and personal/spiritual growth in the process. This also seems to be what the whole reincarnation process is all about.

Still, the stories we like to read are not the ones we like to live. I don't want the problems and I am sure you don't (and didn't) either. I can wax all philosophical about it, but what I really want is a trouble free life in a hammock under the palms. At least I think that's what I want.

Anyhow, the one who designed it all knows what we really need, and I have to continue to remind myself that I am lucky to be in better hands than my own.

Cordially,
S&S

Hi S&S! Thank you very much. Sorry, I am a bit slow but now when I come to think of it the occupations I have chosen are to help people who are sick, hurt etc. I also like to keep myself busy and I am glad to help out if I can. I like working with people. What I appreciated about being Laura and Anna is that they were part of a group (in Lauras case the missionary "family") and in Anna's case the Italian(-American) family. I am not a rivalry type of person (which used to irritate my father because he was someone who wanted to win at all costs and could not understand why I was more concern of the feelings of others, he saw it as a weakness on my part, but then again he claimed to have the best at-peace-kind-of-relationship with me than with others). I so agree, one does not want the problems one has faced or am facing but hopefully there are lessons to be learned.
Best Wishes
Li La

 

[Li. La.]

Just read an article entitled "Maori Traditions and the Mormon Church" by R. Lanier Britsch which reveals that the mormons and the Maori were a successful team; the mormons was not part of stealing their land, was not involved in the war 1850's1870's. Unlike other faiths established in New Zealand the mormons teached out the practise in the maori own language, spoke it, and respected their traditions and ways; just like I saw glimpses of Laura's attitude and the treatment she received in return from the Maori people
(link: https://www.lds.org/new-era/1981/06/maori-traditions-and-the-mormon-church?lang=eng)

1909 mormon wedding
http://thamesnz-genealogy.blogspot.com/2014/12/thames-nz-church-at-kirikiri.html

 

[Li. La.]

I just could not get over the dream I had as a child and began to google the possibility of mormons also babtising people who are dead - and they have done so and still does. I could not have known this prior, especially when I was a young child who had this dream. I am just taken away by this.
https://sojo.net/articles/why-do-mormons-baptize-dead

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Li. La.,

The Mormons have many unusual beliefs. They're fairly common in the U.S. and I have known a few. Overall, they tend to be very moral people living well-ordered lives. On the surface, they seem much like other Protestant Christians. However, they have a lot of very unusual beliefs and doctrines. And, Baptism for the Dead is not, by any means, the most unusual. Having said that, most Christians would also conclude that I (as a reincarnationist) have some very "unusual" beliefs for a Christian. So, I'm not sure that by itself is grounds for criticism.

Mormon beliefs are not my own, and some I consider to be extremely strange, but generally they tend to be very nice people with what would be considered in the modern world to be old-fashioned moral standards. Of course, like anyone else that falls in this category, this makes them hated and detested by the modern PC crowd. However, I consider this to be a badge of honor in most cases.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--The Mormons have historically been criticized most for practicing polygamy. Modern mainstream Mormonism has abandoned this practice, but there are still rebel sects that embrace it. Some of these have become notorious due to situations where leaders had numerous wives, and even more notorious because they often had numerous underage wives. This type of thing has led to some highly publicized criminal cases in the U.S. (BTW--These groups usually keep very much to themselves).

 

[Li. La.]

Hi Li. La.,

The Mormons have many unusual beliefs. They're fairly common in the U.S. and I have known a few. Overall, they tend to be very moral people living well-ordered lives. On the surface, they seem much like other Protestant Christians. However, they have a lot of very unusual beliefs and doctrines. And, Baptism for the Dead is not, by any means, the most unusual. Having said that, most Christians would also conclude that I (as a reincarnationist) have some very "unusual" beliefs for a Christian. So, I'm not sure that by itself is grounds for criticism.

Mormon beliefs are not my own, and some I consider to be extremely strange, but generally they tend to be very nice people with what would be considered in the modern world to be old-fashioned moral standards. Of course, like anyone else that falls in this category, this makes them hated and detested by the modern PC crowd. However, I consider this to be a badge of honor in most cases.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--The Mormons have historically been criticized most for practicing polygamy. Modern mainstream Mormonism has abandoned this practice, but there are still rebel sects that embrace it. Some of these have become notorious due to situations where leaders had numerous wives, and even more notorious because they often had numerous underage wives. This type of thing has led to some highly publicized criminal cases in the U.S. (BTW--These groups usually keep very much to themselves).

Thank you for sharing the info . Good thing you experience some of them as moral people living well-ordered lives . I had no idea though that some mormons were into polygamy, glad I did not have to experience that during regression, that would not work with me.

Best Wishes
Li La

 

[Kenz1010]

Well, I see that you’ve come across some of the more interesting things about the religion..

As I said before, I know a lot of Mormons. I don’t share the same beliefs as them though.
Feel free to send me a PM if you’re interested, I’ve got some interesting stories regarding some of them..

 

[Li. La.]

Thank you, that is so kind of you, right now I feel as if I need to do another regression to find out the full real names of some of - or anyone really - from Laura's life so I can find her for sure. If I get something new I will take you up on the offer if I may? thanks again

Right now I don't know if she was born into the mormons or if she seeked them out herself (I've read that some women who were in bad marriages did that to escape) or if she later left the mormons which is also a possibility. I suppose her being part of the mormon faith was better than her saying her husband had left a criminal past. Even if it felt very uncanny to have the dream where someone dead was being babtist in the lake and Laura standing aside, not enjoying it, it did feel pleasant to get the experienced memories of Maori children laughing and looking upon her as a teacher of some kind; I think they were on a break from school and she was playing with them before getting back in again; they were all laughing, including Laura.

 

[glia21]

Li.la.,
It's fascinating to follow your story. thank you for sharing! It sounds very real and it would be great if you manage to figure out certain names. I'm always looking for proof myself since I'm still in doubt - even if all of my self shouts it out loud. I guess I just need some evidence to ease my mind.

Like you I have not much experience concerning mormons. Seems like you did a lot of good things there as Laura
The babtizing of dead people sounds very uncanny to me too. Never heard of that but then I have not much experience with the mormon faith at all. Except for the polygamie thing I know only little.

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Glia,

I am not sure whether this is a misconception of some type, or maybe just a language difficulty, but the Mormons don't baptize "dead people" in the sense of immersing or sprinkling corpses, etc. They do let someone stand-in or serve as a substitute for the dead person in a baptism ceremony. Usually the baptism is on behalf of a deceased ancestor of a Mormon. They are very strong on genealogy, and seek to determine who all of their ancestors are so that they (or someone else) can be baptized on behalf of any who were not baptized.

Cordially,
S&S

 

[glia21]

Oh I see... S&S, thanks for the explanation. I was confused about that.