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Famous Past Lives: 6 Common Assumptions

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I wrote a few blurbs about reincarnation some years back when I was more active online. A few of these articles are about famous past lives (FPLs), so I thought I’d share some here since we seem to have so many discussions about them lately. I’ll start with this one and, if you have anything to add, feel free to chime in:

Ahhhh, the Famous Past Life. It's a subject that always seems in fascinate. From The Ghost Inside my Child to Tumblr, from the Titanic disaster to the Holocaust, FPLs frequently rear their heads. This website’s most popular topics all have the "intriguing" FPL in common. Famous Past Lives, though apparently interesting, sure come with a lot of scrutiny and misunderstanding.
These are what I believe are the most common assumptions people have towards FPLs and the people who have them. No, not all of these are personal experiences, but what I have witnessed over the years.

What do *you* think the common assumptions are?

1. PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY HAVE A FAMOUS PAST LIFE DO IT FOR ATTENTION
Naturally, folks will chalk up another's famous past life story as an attempt to be noticed. It makes perfect sense as in all areas of life, from the workplace or to hanging out at your favorite coffeehouse/watering hole, you'll find these types of individuals. Even within the family dynamic, there are always those few people who thrive on attention and love all eyes to be on them. Online? It can be worse!
Reincarnation circles are no different with their mix of personalities and roles. It's not that strange for someone to come out with an FPL first thing in order to shock or to be admired. Even though the more seasoned reincarnationists out there usually can see through this and not take the bait, there are some who gush over the princess/politician/guitar hero. Thus, the attention seeker gets what they want, and it goes on and on and on until the person loses interest and goes elsewhere.
But a lot of times, an individual will 'come out' with a Famous Past Life after much thought and with their story worded carefully. They know you may think they're nuts. They know once they put it out there, there is no going back. They know they may be asked for their research. They know they may be ridiculed and all about the FPL stigma. Regardless, they're want to talk about it and for this sort of person, it's not for something shallow like attention. There's something deeper behind it, and guess what? They know this, too.

IT IS TRUE that when those with legit FPLs come out with their story, they may garner some extra interest. It is also true that a legit FPL subject can get put on the 'looking for attention' heap because, as someone with a famous past and carrying possible charisma, they could just naturally be the type of person to attract others.

2. MEMORIES & VERIFICATIONS COME TO YOU EASILY
I asked my son, who is just a regular dude, what his first assumption would be if someone said they were famous in a past life. He thought about it and replied, 'Probably that it would be easier to have memories.' I think he has a point. I also think it is assumed that an FPL is easier to get verifications for. It's not surprising some believe this, as a ton of info is just a Google search away and, even before the internet, books and documentaries could be accessed.
But *is* it true? From my personal experience, not really. Memories themselves, which came frequently when I was younger, dwindled out as I aged, which is a fairly common thing. Neither did I notice that I had more memories than other people who had been working with reincarnation the same amount of time that I had. As for verifications, most of them did not come from some online search. They took a lot of digging, reading, and the questioning of experts. I still have stuff shelved, unverified and waiting. Most of the information that was readily available, the surface stuff, I didn't actually remember and therefore it was of no help.

IT IS TRUE that memories of famous people can sometimes come more often due to more frequent triggering. I also will agree that if you do have a memory and don't have any luck finding the actual event, there is still enough information out there to give you the OK if what you remember is plausible or not.
 
3. YOU WILL LOOK THE SAME NOW AS YOU DID IN THE PAST
How many people have found themselves on Walter Semkiw's site, turning your phone or cocking your head to the side to see the photographic 'evidence' of the famous past life cases he's scrounged up over the years, trying to make connections between eyes, noses, and brows? How many times has that meme of Nic Cage's supposed reincarnations turned up on Facebook or, worse, on reincarnation discussion boards themselves? People can resemble each other, past life or no past life. On my way to work last Thursday, I could of sworn I saw both Eva Braun and Bernie Sanders on my bus. (I should of asked for autographs!)
Really, I don't think people always have to resemble themselves. I think it's more interesting how a person carries themself or hold the same mannerisms from life to life. Appearance alone? Not so convincing to me.

IT IS TRUE that some people have a marked resemblance. I have been blown away by some of the cases of people I’ve met, even when race or gender were completely different. I am not sure if it is just coincidence or I am seeing only what I want to see, though.
There could be some sort of method that causes physical traits to carry over, which may also explain why some people have pl-related birthmarks or certain ailments.

4. YOU REMEMBER A LOT OF FAMOUS EVENTS
Fantasy: You're so excited...you found a plausible Marilyn Monroe! Ten points for you, eh? But when you ask her how it was to film the skirt scene or the Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend number, she says she doesn't remember that. Hey, is this Marilyn Monroe or not? Maybe she's one of those attention-seekers listed above...
Reality: If someone with an FPL remembers a lot of famous events, and not much else, it's possible they're not being entirely honest due to either not being the real person or fluffing up their legit experience because they think it's expected. (<----don't do this) Hey, there's a lot more to a life than just the famous bit the public sees, and it could be that those are the things remembered, not the 15-seconds of film the entire world has memorized.

IT IS TRUE that famous events can be remembered...and in better detail than what the books and documentaries can tell you. But don't think that these
famous memories are in any way better than 'regular' ones. They may be more interesting to others, but to the person remembering, a quiet memory with a loved one could possibly be the most cherished by far.

5. IT'S SO COOL TO HAVE A FAMOUS PAST LIFE!
When we think of fame, we think of famous people and all the things they have: they are popular, they probably have money, they seem very confident and they appear to excel in everything that they do. Maybe beautiful, probably intelligent, complete trendsetters...Even those with more negative past lives have admirers of their misunderstood, dark glamour. What's not to like?
But when you actually experience a Famous Past Life, it doesn't feel that way. For one, you can't say anything due to not being believed...or worse, BEING believed and then hounded. People will doubt your sanity. Others will tell you to stop living in the past more often than if you had a non-FPL. Books, movies, and other related material will never get it right. Twenty other people say they're you. There is a tremendous sense of loss and other feelings you can't properly discharge because the big F-word keeps you tied down. There is this image. People's expectations of you are different. Some get tired of hearing your griping because hey, you were famous...what do you have to complain about?? Having no real outlet can be frustrating. Even when you are over it, something always comes along (a movie, an anniversary) that pulls you right into it again.

IT IS TRUE that lot of the things mentioned above happen to all reincarnations, not just the famous ones. But it seems like there is a lot less judgement for those lives as opposed to the famous, making the burden all the heavier.

And lastly, the one stereotype that seems to override all...

6. EVERYONE THINKS THEY'RE SOMEONE FAMOUS
I believe this reaction is the most common assumption out there. Even people who don't discuss reincarnation or know about past lives at all will quip, "Oh yeah, everyone thinks they're Napoleon or Cleopatra!" if the subject is brought up.
(Actually, no. From my experience, everyone thinks they're Reinhard Heydrich or Tatiana Romanov, but I digress...)

I do not believe that, out of all the people in this world who believe in reincarnation, a staggering number believe they were someone famous. Even if you look at Western culture, most stories out there are same-family reincarnation or just spooky things a kid has said. A Google search will show most stories consist of fairly ordinary people living fairly ordinary lives. Within my own family, the same people whom I felt I could never fit in with due to pl reasons, we had brief brushes with reincarnation: one of my mom's sisters, who is active in her Christian church, always thought she had a life in the '20s and would talk about it sometimes. My son, who lives with reincarnation talk around him and couldn't be less interested, could tell me his past life name at age 3 or 4. Even an interview with a screenwriter I read a few days ago revealed that the man was influenced by stories of children's past lives and had talked about his previous death as a small child (his parents told him when he was an adult).

IT IS TRUE that when people gather online to talk about reincarnation, there are a fair amount of FPLs represented. One large forum in particular will have folks saying they have hardly any members with FPLs, but when I have actually looked at users most active there, almost all of them have had at least one notable life. On smaller forums, you could say the same.
Excluding the possibility that FPL stories simply stand out more against others, giving the impression that there are more of those Heydrichs and Tatianas running around than there really are, it could be that FPLers went online to discuss reincarnation where there is a veil of anonymity. Someone who is the reincarnation of their own uncle may be just fine discussing their challenges at home (or on Facebook, to bring in another current trend), but someone with an FPL perhaps wouldn't go about it the same way.
It also can be that it seems like so many folks online have FPLs because they're new to the subject and are wrong. Frequently, people will latch their memories onto a famous person because it's the easiest answer.

My take is that, though it's understandable that FPLs come under serious scrutiny, famous people do reincarnate. Though I am the first to cock an eyebrow and not take a lot of cases seriously, I do understand the struggles and misconceptions. I think it would be so beneficial if FPLs, with more solid evidence than 'we share the same birthday', were more accepted. When historical research gets put on its head due to the real person giving testimony or baddie historical figures are reborn to be just fine, that would sure put a different spin on how others see the world, wouldn't it?
 
Hi Inhaltslos. I was on the bus today coming home from work. I started having flashbacks and felt like I would burst out and lose control of my emotions in front of everyone. I didn't though, I only ever lost control once two feet from a woman that looked like my old love.

I began staring out of the window and thought about how I'm not the same man I used to be...I've changed. I'll never be the same again and reincarnation is intrinsically linked into my trauma. Its moments like that when the fact that I'm an FPL claimant is meaningless. I'm dealing with the consequences of who I've been and who I want to be constantly.

I've made friends on this forum, I've gained a lot of information that has helped to give me clarity..yet when I'm on this site or the general reincarnation community I feel totally alone at times, because on the bus I'm a man dealing with my issues but in the reincarnation community I'm just another FPL claimant.

The only thing fame ever gave me was heavy karma and now I'm a forty year old man barely keeping control to prevent my experiences and emotions consuming me.

I can't speak for others but for me personally, I'm not an FPL claimant for any reason other than understanding. The only understanding I ever got was the look of the lady who looked like my old love and that's because she saw me relive my wars without my mentioning reincarnation. I hold onto that look like it was money. Everyone else in my life is 'dazzled' by my FPL claim.
 
I really believe that we're here, on Earth, to enjoy life. I don't believe that we have to suffer or need any pain to learn at maximum speed. I believe that around us there are all the opportunities for our evolution to skyrocket during each and every life. We don't accomplish this because of our innate ignorance, our lack of trust and misunderstanding of our intuition, and the mishandling of our emotions. There isn't something that we can do or not do immediately, but just to turn more to introspection, go deep inside ourselves to contact our inner selves, ask for guidance and knowledge, be open for that, and not misinterpret it with our beliefs and emotions.
 
No4 ist just so true. You don‘t get what memory you want. My most infamous speech is a big black hole.

Apart from that, I couldn‘t imagine how any nazi reincarnate would talk about that apart from the internet. Either you get a punch in the face or some crazy fans, as far as I would imagine.
 
I had believed, at one point, that I had some connection to the Holocaust, but I believe now that it was more fantasy. My mind was trying to figure out everything that was coming back, in a flood of imagination and distant recognition, and some points got jumbled and scrambled. I'm still trying to find myself, my past self that is. But, when I was thinking of the Holocaust, I wasn't thinking of a name easily recognised from the period. So, no camp commandant (like the Beast of Belsen), no spearhead figure on either side, no noteworthy prisoner (Anne Frank, the obvious example). Just an unassuming victim lost in the masses of numbers.

All of my theories have been unassuming entities. The closest I've got to "fame" is a link to a WWII soldier from Syracuse, whose family were in the local papers a fair bit between the 1940s and the 1980s. He wasn't a big name from the war, not like the men from Band of Brothers, but his name had a certain level of recognition at one time. It's maybe a connection to this life; I don't go looking for fame or recognition in this lifetime, so either I didn't in the past or I did and it abhorred me so much that I came back to live a quieter existence. I don't know, I'm still figuring stuff out. Sorting fantasy from truth and doing what I can with what I get.

I'm not actually big on revealing full names, when I latch on to them, anyway. One, because I'm not 100% sure in myself that I have a solid connection with them. Two, because I don't feel right doing so. If someone was to suddenly claim to have been my late grandfather or great-uncle one day, I don't know how I'd feel. So, I keep full names secret and only reveal given names that came to me either through research or regressions.

But, as I say, I'm still trying to pinpoint my past-self. So, who knows? When I find her, I know the vessel to be female from regressions, she might actually turn out to have some link to a famous life, or be famous herself (at one time).
 
There has been a time when I believed that I have been an infamous person in a past life. Cool? Definitely not. I felt horrible.
I am not so sure anymore. It is possible that I was this person, but it is also possible that I was somebody else with a similar personality who met some of the people he met.
It just would feel wrong to "claim" that life as long as there still are other possible explanations.
 
This reminds me, im missing a certain someone who no longer appears in here, he must be playing with cupid to much lol
 
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3. YOU WILL LOOK THE SAME NOW AS YOU DID IN THE PAST
How many people have found themselves on Walter Semkiw's site, turning your phone or cocking your head to the side to see the photographic 'evidence' of the famous past life cases he's scrounged up over the years, trying to make connections between eyes, noses, and brows? How many times has that meme of Nic Cage's supposed reincarnations turned up on Facebook or, worse, on reincarnation discussion boards themselves? People can resemble each other, past life or no past life. On my way to work last Thursday, I could of sworn I saw both Eva Braun and Bernie Sanders on my bus. (I should of asked for autographs!)
Really, I don't think people always have to resemble themselves. I think it's more interesting how a person carries themself or hold the same mannerisms from life to life. Appearance alone? Not so convincing to me.

IT IS TRUE that some people have a marked resemblance. I have been blown away by some of the cases of people I’ve met, even when race or gender were completely different. I am not sure if it is just coincidence or I am seeing only what I want to see, though.
There could be some sort of method that causes physical traits to carry over, which may also explain why some people have pl-related birthmarks or certain ailments.

4. YOU REMEMBER A LOT OF FAMOUS EVENTS
Fantasy: You're so excited...you found a plausible Marilyn Monroe! Ten points for you, eh? But when you ask her how it was to film the skirt scene or the Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend number, she says she doesn't remember that. Hey, is this Marilyn Monroe or not? Maybe she's one of those attention-seekers listed above...
Reality: If someone with an FPL remembers a lot of famous events, and not much else, it's possible they're not being entirely honest due to either not being the real person or fluffing up their legit experience because they think it's expected. (<----don't do this) Hey, there's a lot more to a life than just the famous bit the public sees, and it could be that those are the things remembered, not the 15-seconds of film the entire world has memorized.

IT IS TRUE that famous events can be remembered...and in better detail than what the books and documentaries can tell you. But don't think that these
famous memories are in any way better than 'regular' ones. They may be more interesting to others, but to the person remembering, a quiet memory with a loved one could possibly be the most cherished by far.

5. IT'S SO COOL TO HAVE A FAMOUS PAST LIFE!
When we think of fame, we think of famous people and all the things they have: they are popular, they probably have money, they seem very confident and they appear to excel in everything that they do. Maybe beautiful, probably intelligent, complete trendsetters...Even those with more negative past lives have admirers of their misunderstood, dark glamour. What's not to like?
But when you actually experience a Famous Past Life, it doesn't feel that way. For one, you can't say anything due to not being believed...or worse, BEING believed and then hounded. People will doubt your sanity. Others will tell you to stop living in the past more often than if you had a non-FPL. Books, movies, and other related material will never get it right. Twenty other people say they're you. There is a tremendous sense of loss and other feelings you can't properly discharge because the big F-word keeps you tied down. There is this image. People's expectations of you are different. Some get tired of hearing your griping because hey, you were famous...what do you have to complain about?? Having no real outlet can be frustrating. Even when you are over it, something always comes along (a movie, an anniversary) that pulls you right into it again.

IT IS TRUE that lot of the things mentioned above happen to all reincarnations, not just the famous ones. But it seems like there is a lot less judgement for those lives as opposed to the famous, making the burden all the heavier.

And lastly, the one stereotype that seems to override all...

6. EVERYONE THINKS THEY'RE SOMEONE FAMOUS
I believe this reaction is the most common assumption out there. Even people who don't discuss reincarnation or know about past lives at all will quip, "Oh yeah, everyone thinks they're Napoleon or Cleopatra!" if the subject is brought up.
(Actually, no. From my experience, everyone thinks they're Reinhard Heydrich or Tatiana Romanov, but I digress...)

I do not believe that, out of all the people in this world who believe in reincarnation, a staggering number believe they were someone famous. Even if you look at Western culture, most stories out there are same-family reincarnation or just spooky things a kid has said. A Google search will show most stories consist of fairly ordinary people living fairly ordinary lives. Within my own family, the same people whom I felt I could never fit in with due to pl reasons, we had brief brushes with reincarnation: one of my mom's sisters, who is active in her Christian church, always thought she had a life in the '20s and would talk about it sometimes. My son, who lives with reincarnation talk around him and couldn't be less interested, could tell me his past life name at age 3 or 4. Even an interview with a screenwriter I read a few days ago revealed that the man was influenced by stories of children's past lives and had talked about his previous death as a small child (his parents told him when he was an adult).

IT IS TRUE that when people gather online to talk about reincarnation, there are a fair amount of FPLs represented. One large forum in particular will have folks saying they have hardly any members with FPLs, but when I have actually looked at users most active there, almost all of them have had at least one notable life. On smaller forums, you could say the same.
Excluding the possibility that FPL stories simply stand out more against others, giving the impression that there are more of those Heydrichs and Tatianas running around than there really are, it could be that FPLers went online to discuss reincarnation where there is a veil of anonymity. Someone who is the reincarnation of their own uncle may be just fine discussing their challenges at home (or on Facebook, to bring in another current trend), but someone with an FPL perhaps wouldn't go about it the same way.
It also can be that it seems like so many folks online have FPLs because they're new to the subject and are wrong. Frequently, people will latch their memories onto a famous person because it's the easiest answer.

My take is that, though it's understandable that FPLs come under serious scrutiny, famous people do reincarnate. Though I am the first to cock an eyebrow and not take a lot of cases seriously, I do understand the struggles and misconceptions. I think it would be so beneficial if FPLs, with more solid evidence than 'we share the same birthday', were more accepted. When historical research gets put on its head due to the real person giving testimony or baddie historical figures are reborn to be just fine, that would sure put a different spin on how others see the world, wouldn't it?
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Hello Inhaltslos, I'm doing some contemplating and find your comments intriguing, especially in view of the fact that the well known psychic Brian Stalin matched me with Empress Elisabeth of Austria last year. I had never heard of her (I'm Canadian) but did a year of research and comparing likes, dislikes, similarities, photos, etc. and the evidence overall seemed to agree with his observation. However, just recently I had an in-depth reading from him and he also matched me with Archduchess Maria Amalia of Austria who lived in the century previous to Empress Elisabeth. Now I am wondering, was I one or both of them and yes, it could have been possible for me to have been both technically. I also asked him if he could discover the details of the lifetime lived as the blues musician in "Go Back Jack". He replied that possibly there was such a life two lifetimes ago, which is not very helpful. Years ago I also asked Kevin Ryerson if he could give me the details of that lifetime, especially birth and death dates. Yes, he gave me some details but no birth or death dates so I am still left with the mystery and the music. One lifetime was famous, another was not and so I conclude that you can't rely on outside sources for information but must trust to your own feelings and research. I think the best we can do is use the talents of these past lifetimes and move on, so keep on playing that boogie-woogie like the blues musician did it even 'though you don't know where you got this talent and write that poetry like Empress Elisabeth even 'though you don't know why you've been doing it your whole lifetime and share it with the world. The research itself makes for interesting reading by those inclined to be interested.
 
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Hi Ministargazer. I've found its possible to have multiple fpls. If fame for whatever reason manifested once for us to learn why not twice? If that's what we need.
 
Hi @Ministargazer and thanks for your reply!
Just a few thoughts before I go about my day. Excuse the shortness:
I think folks being told they “can’t” be someone because of a gender change or because they don’t look exactly alike isn’t correct (yet memes coupling celebrities with old photographs and paintings are many, and imho cheapen the experience). As for multiple famous claims, for every person who seems to be putting in the time, there are dozens who have a new FPL every month. Again, this cheapens and makes a joke of those who don’t do that (btw, I don’t think you’re that way at all). I know several ppl who have had more than one, and I don’t disbelieve them.
I don’t think we have lessons or tasks, just that reincarnation happens. I also haven’t consulted a psychic and never would be interesting doing so, though I realize I’m probably in the minority here.
I used to blog quite a bit about past lives, and at the writing of this article, an old discussion board I frequented was getting flooded with famous folks. I wanted to give a voice to those who suspected famous lives, those of us who aren’t necessarily shouting it from the rooftops and go against the stereotype that those who talk about FPLs do it only for attention. Frequent claimants used to really get under my skin, mostly due to my own past and prejudices, but I let it slide right off my back now. (Well, I’m better at letting it go now. I’ll just say that...)
Again, thank you for the reply and all the best in your discoveries.
 
inhaltslos said:
Hi @Ministargazer and thanks for your reply!
Just a few thoughts before I go about my day. Excuse the shortness:
I think folks being told they “can’t” be someone because of a gender change or because they don’t look exactly alike isn’t correct (yet memes coupling celebrities with old photographs and paintings are many, and imho cheapen the experience). As for multiple famous claims, for every person who seems to be putting in the time, there are dozens who have a new FPL every month. Again, this cheapens and makes a joke of those who don’t do that (btw, I don’t think you’re that way at all). I know several ppl who have had more than one, and I don’t disbelieve them.
I don’t think we have lessons or tasks, just that reincarnation happens. I also haven’t consulted a psychic and never would be interesting doing so, though I realize I’m probably in the minority here.
I used to blog quite a bit about past lives, and at the writing of this article, an old discussion board I frequented was getting flooded with famous folks. I wanted to give a voice to those who suspected famous lives, those of us who aren’t necessarily shouting it from the rooftops and go against the stereotype that those who talk about FPLs do it only for attention. Frequent claimants used to really get under my skin, mostly due to my own past and prejudices, but I let it slide right off my back now. (Well, I’m better at letting it go now. I’ll just say that...)
Again, thank you for the reply and all the best in your discoveries.
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inhaltslos said:
Hi @Ministargazer and thanks for your reply!
Just a few thoughts before I go about my day. Excuse the shortness:
I think folks being told they “can’t” be someone because of a gender change or because they don’t look exactly alike isn’t correct (yet memes coupling celebrities with old photographs and paintings are many, and imho cheapen the experience). As for multiple famous claims, for every person who seems to be putting in the time, there are dozens who have a new FPL every month. Again, this cheapens and makes a joke of those who don’t do that (btw, I don’t think you’re that way at all). I know several ppl who have had more than one, and I don’t disbelieve them.
I don’t think we have lessons or tasks, just that reincarnation happens. I also haven’t consulted a psychic and never would be interesting doing so, though I realize I’m probably in the minority here.
I used to blog quite a bit about past lives, and at the writing of this article, an old discussion board I frequented was getting flooded with famous folks. I wanted to give a voice to those who suspected famous lives, those of us who aren’t necessarily shouting it from the rooftops and go against the stereotype that those who talk about FPLs do it only for attention. Frequent claimants used to really get under my skin, mostly due to my own past and prejudices, but I let it slide right off my back now. (Well, I’m better at letting it go now. I’ll just say that...)
Again, thank you for the reply and all the best in your discoveries.
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Yes, I think the best famous past lives are the ones you don't go searching for but end up claiming you are theirs!
 
Jim78 said:
Hi Ministargazer. I've found its possible to have multiple fpls. If fame for whatever reason manifested once for us to learn why not twice? If that's what we need.
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Well that could very well be Jim. I've taken the best from both the famous and infamous lifetimes and it seems that the lessons of life don't necessarily respect money or status because all experiences enrich the soul.
 
I honestly don't like talking about myself, in the past life tense, directly. I have a rule that I won't talk about my past life outside of my thread by name, simply because I don't want any attention because of it. Even though it's not a name that's known in the west.

I'm not comfortable talking about it here either, simply because I don't like the spot light. I do however journal and blog because it helps me and I have solid evidence and I hope that I can swing some people's minds into believing in reincarnation.

So with that said, I'd like to address each of the topics.

1.PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY HAVE A FAMOUS PAST LIFE DO IT FOR ATTENTION
But a lot of times, an individual will 'come out' with a Famous Past Life after much thought and with their story worded carefully. They know you may think they're nuts. They know once they put it out there, there is no going back. They know they may be asked for their research. They know they may be ridiculed and all about the FPL stigma. Regardless, they're want to talk about it and for this sort of person, it's not for something shallow like attention. There's something deeper behind it, and guess what? They know this, too.
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I've gone out of my way to strike a balance, like I said, between being able to say "I have a past life too" and being a contributing member of the forum by talking about my past life and also not actively seeking attention for it either. If you know my history, it was an arranged marriage and not something I wanted anyway. I detested the ceremonial robes then and they fill me with disgust now.

But still, I know I would need to go above and beyond with proof. I have again, gone out of my way to do that. I even think I had my birth-date from my drive's license in an image in my thread.

2. MEMORIES & VERIFICATIONS COME TO YOU EASILY
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They do. from what I've read of my past life, I've been easily able to understand what happened in various situations, as well as fill in missing info and even to be able to recall Chinese words simply by thinking about them.

3. YOU WILL LOOK THE SAME NOW AS YOU DID IN THE PAST
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I look incredibly similar. I look most like my male lives and there's deep resemblance to my female one. I agree, there's something about the "energy" being some kind of blue print.

4. YOU REMEMBER A LOT OF FAMOUS EVENTS
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I don't actually, there wasn't a lot that happened to me, except at the end of my life, which was quite traumatic, so I blocked it out. Reading about it though shed light on many habits and fears I had when I was younger. My wife however was able to remember a few things from that time period.

5. IT'S SO COOL TO HAVE A FAMOUS PAST LIFE!
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At least in my point of view, there was nothing cool about it. I hated the experience and I died as a result of it.

6. EVERYONE THINKS THEY'RE SOMEONE FAMOUS
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I never did. I had a flash of memory once when I was younger of someone who was wearing robes walking through a stone corridor. I thought at the time, I may have been some kind of monk. I had a friend later, who did some really accurate tarot card readings, tell me that no, I wasn't a monk, but someone who wore robes.

I'm not really an attention seeker and if you had asked me, I would have assumed if I had a past life, I'd be a librarian, a teacher or something much more mundane than what I was.
 
Jim78 said:
Yup I agree ministargazer. Fame is just another soul challenge just like anything else.
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Hi all,
I´d like to add that fame is relative too, I mean I never heard of Michael Collins before Jim mentioned his PL on this forum, so I didn´t even know he was well known at all. Same with certain kings and empresses, movie stars or rock stars. They are not equally well known all over the world. But if you happen to be born in an area where someone is indeed famous of course you are more likely to stumble over a certain trigger - a picture, a movie, whatever - that catches your attention and releases memories and emotions you weren´t aware of before.
I do recall only one FPL but in my area I doubt that there would be lots of people actually knowing that person…
 
Your right Glia. Fame is relative. There are many levels to it. Collins isn't world famous so is it an fpl? A Hollywood film starring Julia Roberts and Liam Neeson was made so maybe it is. I dunno.

Personally all fame ever meant for me was that I affected more souls than the average person. Its a heavy burden. I affected millions though, not tens of millions, unless one counts the snowballing of my tactics among other guerilla warfare proponents. I'm still trying to figure out how much I'm actually responsible for. Its a puzzle really.
 
I have a friend who “claims” to have died on the Titanic and I politely sit and listen as she accurately describes scenes from the 1997 movie!
Then one day after a day out on which we went on a Ghost Walk, she was suddenly once a little girl who died when she fell down the stairs at Christmas time - a story we had heard on the Ghost Walk, which she had never mentioned before.
She will also tell anybody who will listen, family, friends and strangers she meets at the bus stop about her life on Titanic!

As for me, I’m 100% certain I was in King Henry VIII’s Court at Hampton Court Palace.
Was I royalty or high ranked? I simply don’t know.
But even if I knew I was, I wouldn’t shout it from the roof tops for this exact reason, I don’t think anyone would believe me because I’d then become one of the “attention seekers”

It’s definitely difficult for those who are really being truthful about it and trying to separate them from those who get their information from Google.
 
Hi Emilie.

Your comment about your friend seems to mirror the general insubstantial claims I've read about at times. Its funny how easily people can fool themselves.

Like you I don't want to be labelled an attention seeker but as someone else said fame is relative. You may have been in King Henry the eights court but even if you were a well known lady of high stature you may only be known in England. Surely an attention seeker would have ambitions for a greater 'fame' than that?
 
Jim78 said:
Hi Emilie.

Your comment about your friend seems to mirror the general insubstantial claims I've read about at times. Its funny how easily people can fool themselves.

Like you I don't want to be labelled an attention seeker but as someone else said fame is relative. You may have been in King Henry the eights court but even if you were a well known lady of high stature you may only be known in England. Surely an attention seeker would have ambitions for a greater 'fame' than that?
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Absolutely. I think definitely those who are making it up for attention would go with the likes of the Titanic, or a world renowned movie star etc.
But then there are people out there who really were on Titanic and really were a movie star, and again it’s knowing how to separate fact from fantasy.
 
I agree. Its unfortunate on genuine claimants that they would most likely get lost in the mix with fantasists Emilie.

With two of my past lives I've heard of other claimants. That annoys me because I know who I am. I've over 900 posts here now but none of them were for attention. I'm just trying to figure out what it means to me.

Have you gathered any more details from you pl dream. It may be worth researching the social structure and hierarchy of King Henry's court. You may be able to pinpoint where exactly your past life fell in the food chain.
 
Maybe more will be revealed in the future Emilie. Like you I had inklings throughout my life of reincarnation but being from a Catholic country reincarnation wasn't really on my radar.
 
You can not overlook the fact that like ***, who I know spent much of his time in insane asylums thinking he was king of Ireland or something else, that many people where as nuts as they are now. Having a meditation session on a past life is no guarantee of being that person you think you are. Hypnosis is the same. Unfortunately the human brain is quite capable of blocking out the truth. What you need as an outside independent "soul" who knows what they are talking about. Someone who can clearly recognise what is the truth, plus can communicate with the other side. I have been informed that around 70% of the people who come to this site have never been the people they claimed to be. A lot of them are not even famous lives. I am reliably informed too that the moderation team is one of the worst offenders.

Unfortunately it's one of the side effects of letting people know about reincarnation. There are some souls that are coming down to make certain it gets a bad name, because they don't want to let the public know what really happens. Though the claim to believe in reincarnation.
 
Graham76man said:
You can not overlook the fact that like ***, who I know spent much of his time in insane asylums thinking he was king of Ireland or something else, that many people where as nuts as they are now. Having a meditation session on a past life is no guarantee of being that person you think you are. Hypnosis is the same. Unfortunately the human brain is quite capable of blocking out the truth. What you need as an outside independent "soul" who knows what they are talking about. Someone who can clearly recognise what is the truth, plus can communicate with the other side. I have been informed that around 70% of the people who come to this site have never been the people they claimed to be. A lot of them are not even famous lives. I am reliably informed too that the moderation team is one of the worst offenders.

Unfortunately it's one of the side effects of letting people know about reincarnation. There are some souls that are coming down to make certain it gets a bad name, because they don't want to let the public know what really happens. Though the claim to believe in reincarnation.
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That’s some impressively precise statistics you bring out there, Graham.

I agree with you when you point out that the human brain has very efficient ways to protect itself from uncovering all aspects of the past lives we here believe we lived. If it wasn’t for this filter, Humankind would have known for ages how to access those hidden memories and we would have much, much more validated accounts of past lives.

That being said, I find it surprising that you mention a well-crafted plan to undermine the credibility of reincarnation. In my opinion, celebrities and random people claiming left and right to be former kings, queens and pharaohs on TV is enough to cast a very doubtful shadow on this otherwise very serious subject - and I highly respect the people on this forum who take the time to write their account of past lives as Kings or Queens. I just think that, prior to experiencing my own adventure towards remembering a past identity of mine, I only had known of reincarnation through very « ridiculous » claims by frauds or lunatics on mainstream medias. I have a hard time understanding why anyone would need to disrupt this forum - prominent researchers would seem for me to be the ideal target.

I also find it a bit hard from you to aim at the moderators, I think they do an amazing work to keep this space clean and civil, to provide wonderful exchanges. They deserve praise and respect for that.
 
Seventy percent Graham? Interesting. If your going to point fingers and call the majority of forum members lunatics you should understand that there's always three fingers pointing back at yourself.

Also you should have added IMO lest people think your preaching.

Also your conspiracies that normalise the other side of the veil such as fans wanting to look like celebrities in their current life or your new one you posted are ridiculous IMO.
 
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With two of my past lives I've heard of other claimants. That annoys me because I know who I am. I've over 900 posts here now but none of them were for attention. I'm just trying to figure out what it means to me.
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I document because it helps me know I'm not crazy. Honestly, I always look at it from the opposite direction and I try to disprove as much as I can. That's my ultimate quest too, trying to figure out what it means. It sheds light on many of the things issues I had when I was younger and it did help me sort of recover from my relationship with my friend. So I'm thankful for it in a therapeutic sense, but other than that, I'm clueless as to what it all "means". I think that's why we're all here honestly, searching for answers.

Graham76man said:
You can not overlook the fact that like ***, who I know spent much of his time in insane asylums thinking he was king of Ireland or something else, that many people where as nuts as they are now. Having a meditation session on a past life is no guarantee of being that person you think you are. Hypnosis is the same. Unfortunately the human brain is quite capable of blocking out the truth. What you need as an outside independent "soul" who knows what they are talking about. Someone who can clearly recognise what is the truth, plus can communicate with the other side. I have been informed that around 70% of the people who come to this site have never been the people they claimed to be. A lot of them are not even famous lives. I am reliably informed too that the moderation team is one of the worst offenders.

Unfortunately it's one of the side effects of letting people know about reincarnation. There are some souls that are coming down to make certain it gets a bad name, because they don't want to let the public know what really happens. Though the claim to believe in reincarnation.
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I agree with the others that have posted before me: I don't know where you're getting your numbers. An overwhelming majority of the moderation team and members here do not claim famous past lives. Most of them are un-named and extremely vague "impressions". I think it takes a lot more honesty to claim a simple, nondescript life than it does a famous one.

Regardless, when I started my journey, I was in quite a lot of emotional and spiritual pain and I found a website online that dealt with similar cases and I was politely brushed off and told I should talk to a regression therapist. In hindsight, that may have been a good option, but this site also used an soul "advisor" to validate claims of people they suspect may have past lives.

So why I take offense to that is because when people think they may have had a past life, they are hurt and searching for answers, for themselves, for their children, family members etc. I think that's what you're not taking into consideration. It's not so much about identifying and validating the past life that people want, it's that they want to stop hurting and feeling confused and lost. I think people who feel that way, should be treated with an open mind and kindness.

I found the forum after a while and I ended up messaging one of the moderators and we talked for a bit and he shared his story with me and he listened and patiently answered me as I asked questions. It was a simple act of kindness, that was all I needed to set me on a different course. I'm here now, as a result of that one conversation.

I know, many people may wander in and out who may or may not be serious about what they claim, famous or not, but the one thing that keeps me here, is that we have a dedicated group of people, who treat everyone the same, as they did me, regardless of what they claim. We're not here to prove or disprove anyone; judge not lest ye be judged. We are here though to lend an ear and extend a hand of friendship when needed.
 
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