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Are past life memories (dreams especially) always in first person?

Dana

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So, on a certain day where I was already starting to think that I may be a reincarnated DN (Dead Nazi), I suddenly had a dream with this soldier from the Heer. I saw his face but then he was shot on the side, the bullet going through his left arm and got into his side. The next day I realized that the guy in my dream was shot on where I had my birthmarks. I did some research by looking for the guy in the Bundesarchiv and found his picture. It was taken in July 1941, and the original title of the picture was this. They were in the forest to get rid of snipers, and that makes sense why I got my birthmarks aligned straight.
 

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However, I read that past life memories are always in first person, and I had mine in third person.

I just want to ask a question on that part because it really confuses me.

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Hi Dana, most of my memories are from first person view, but after much meditations I entered a past life as Laura. Laura had a traumatic incident with her husband who physically dragged her out from the house to a stall where he tied up her hands with rope, to the wall, then left. Laura was really shocked, very frighten. She thought he would return to whip her or shoot her. Very often I have returned to this scene, but not only from first person view, but as if I was watching the husband outside the stall as he stood still, heavily breathing. I could also see sort of energy fields which I have never seen before from the house way out to the stall. As I saw the husband like this I was very surprised and did not understand how that could be done. I have later discovered that our soul is complex and an event can have several eyes. In another life during the witch hunt ages I remember having a bunch of kids with me in a house and us being still and dodging.

Then I saw what happened outside, just before it happened, that is I deliberately changed my view. I know this sound like fantasy and I have no proof that it happened or that one can even do that. So I did not just "jump out" of my own perspective to see what was going on, I jumped ahead of time in what I think were only a few minutes. The men outside were dangerous and looking for some people, I fear they looked for the children that were entrusted to me, and that I was very stressed, so stressed that my soul just sort of took over and showed me one of the abilities that the soul, our consciousnesses can have. When this memory came to me I was shocked.

I have started to think this is an actual ability one can train one self to develop, have, and I had done so apparently in that life so very long ago (I can not do it now). Either that or I was just a crazy woman. Anyhow you seeing yourself as dead, from a third view, does not sound wrong to me after I have had my own experience with this. It was a worse traumatic event than I experienced as Laura, but could it not also be that your soul had left your body and was looking at it?

Then it was not third eye perspective. Either way I hope you felt protected while having this experience, that it did not get under your skin too much. Sorry I went on about my own stories about this, I did not know how else to explain my own thinking about the third person perspective. Mine third person perspective has also showed itself in dreams, but even the dreams can be a meditative state.
Best Wishes
Li La
 
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Yes! Some of my most traumatic memories (and ‘normal’ memories) were in third person until my guides knew that I was able to physically handle and cope with the weight of these memories. It was a way of guiding me to see what it was that I needed to see that my PL self would have had no recollection of, such as the birth of our daughter in 1930.

In those memories as my PL self, I had no recollection of what happened between being at home feeling like I was dying (I had pregnancy and birth complications that were not discovered until after our daughter was born but we as expecting parents both suspected them during my pregnancy and were reassured by doctors that nothing was wrong) and then I was laying in the maternity ward recovering and watching my fiancée cuddle our baby.

When my guides showed me these memories in third person, I was horrified to find out that our baby was born drowsy (c-sections were considered major surgery and you were put to sleep for it in 1930) and I panicked because I didn’t hear her cry for a few minutes afterwards. My PL self wouldn’t have had any recollection of this at all, so it quite an eye opener to both her and me. Also I physically ‘felt’ the surgeons push on my stomach to find her in my womb and get her out.

In my later memories of 1942 (what I call my ‘Anthropoid’ memories) I saw some of those in third person too, but in the beginning in 2016, they were mostly in first person because there was so much I needed to expel (I was horribly ill for two weeks healing them).

My traumatic memories of post 1942, I have seen in little pieces of first and third person. My death memories of being in Auschwitz-Birkenau after liberation were in first person. I have taken these different viewings as the way that my guides best think I can handle my memories and what I need to see. Perhaps this is the way your guides are letting you see your memories too?

Eva x
 
I am not surprised that you see yourself in third person in a memory like you describe. The explainations I thought of were: 1. Your soul is protecting you from reexperiencing a PL trauma in a too direct way. Its like when our psyche a little bit denies something, and instead tells a story of ourselves, like it happened to somebody else and not to you. It can also be compared to something thats called dyssociation - when the psyche distances itself from a very traumatic event in the very moment that it happens - like it says: Its not me that this is happening to, its just that body.
2. It could be that the scene you saw were actually from the souls perspective, as it had already left the body after this very sudden death. Your soul could have been looking at your body from the outside already. And this is why you remember it not as experiencing those moments, just looking at them from outside.

When I was born in this life, in a cesarean session in the local hospital in 1980, I experienced my perspective being from to angles during the surgery and birth; one from the outside of my body and above, looking downwards at the operation crew, my mothers body and the equipment - and the other one from my head/body looking into a huge light in the ceiling as I was pulled out of my mother and lifted upwards. At one point I also saw the walls and doors of the operation room, but I can't recall if that was in the moments before birth, after birth or both. I saw all this, and a lot of other details of it, during meditation years later as a grown up. (My mother was laid asleep during the session, so I definitly cant have gotten those memories from her later on, as she herself never remembered anything from the session itself. Only the time before and after sleeping, of course.)
 
So, on a certain day where I was already starting to think that I may be a reincarnated DN (Dead Nazi), I suddenly had a dream with this soldier from the Heer. I saw his face but then he was shot on the side, the bullet going through his left arm and got into his side. The next day I realized that the guy in my dream was shot on where I had my birthmarks. I did some research by looking for the guy in the Bundesarchiv and found his picture. It was taken in July 1941, and the original title of the picture was this. They were in the forest to get rid of snipers, and that makes sense why I got my birthmarks aligned straight.

Dana,

This is a hard call at least in my opinion. In general when we remember or experience a past life memory it is usually in first person. This is because soul is going back to a time period to experience a state of consciousness it once had which was tied to the lower ego and personality of that certain lifetime in the past. This is why the experience at the time is so real. However if the PL memory is too traumatic or emotionally damaging to the present day ego it will be experience in third person. Which I might add is actually from a soul state of consciousness which is above the mind. From this viewpoint soul can still view the past life and all its details without getting mentally or emotionally involved in it. Which is not a bad thing really.

This is one of the reasons why most people don't remember their past lives at all because nature puts up a protective guard on the conscious mind and keeps it hidden from view during ones whole lifetime. Only when the soul has evolved enough in spiritual consciousness does it get a glimpse into some of it's PL. Some of which can be disturbing at first. This is why many PL therapist have the patients lay down, relax and are in a quiet confortablity room perhaps with some soft healing music to listen to while they are being guided by the therapist. This makes the lower ego feel safe and protected during the experiences. Should anything go wrong during the session the therapist can snapped them back to the present day. And then review what was remember from the experiences. Many think its fun or cool to find out what our PL's are. But in truth this is serious business here and should not be taken lightly. Because this is expereincing the inner eternal you as soul. If one has the proper attitude behind learning who they were then and what makes them, now it can be a very healing, enlightening and growing experience. Not to mention learning that you are eternal by nature. Which in itself is a very empowering experiences to have.

That's my two cents worth about the subject.

Love and peace...... P.
 
For a long time ( years ) I was only able to see things from the eyes of the child or woman I was remembering things from, may it be in dreams or having flashbacks. I did not know there was meditation that one could do. So for years I did not know what she looked like. I could see from the side the color of her hair and her body, but that was it. It was only when I had a memory when she looked herself in the mirror in the bathroom happened to me, after years of not knowing. To me it was all twilight zone moment. I understand that what you experienced was tragic and horrible -- seeing your past self like that -- but on the looks of things, responses here, it is rather normal to have third perspective too. The advantage of it is that you quickly found out what you looked like, if one should now try to look at it from a positive side. I always have trouble when being told during meditation to see what I look like. I can take the order about me seeing my shoes for instance, that is so much more easier for me.
/Jaimie
 
Hi dana.My most vivid past life dream was from first person view,but I did have a couple that where third person,but not as vivid.But that may be different for you.If you have a strong feeling that the guy you saw in your dream was you in a past life,there is defenitly chance that it was you.I still don't have that much wisdom if it comes to past lives and giving advice,but I hope I still helped you in some way
 
Hi dana.My most vivid past life dream was from first person view,but I did have a couple that where third person,but not as vivid.But that may be different for you.If you have a strong feeling that the guy you saw in your dream was you in a past life,there is defenitly chance that it was you.I still don't have that much wisdom if it comes to past lives and giving advice,but I hope I still helped you in some way

The guy was me. He was shot in the exact same place where I had my birthmarks, since I already did some research about birthmarks some time before I had the dream.
 
Dana, I was just trying to help
The guy was me. He was shot in the exact same place where I had my birthmarks since I already did some research about birthmarks some time before I had the dream.
Owh ok lol I must sound so stupid now my bad o_Oi thought somehow that you had a question about that
 
I don’t know if this was my past life, but I had two memories from this person’s perspective. As I read other people’s third person perspective’s due to trauma it made me realize that my second memory as this person actually shifted from first person to third person as the trauma unfolded, or more so out of body experience.

First person: I was looking out of a balcony(?) at the stars when men climbed up to my balcony with ropes, I start to panicked and run..

Out of body experience: I was floating above these people, as the men chased down and stabbed this woman to death. I didn’t actually see them stab her to death, she had run out of the room but I had this innate knowing that she was being stabbed to death.

So I’d conclude from that, that it is your conscience or guides way of protecting you from the trauma of the memory.

Also I think it is safe to assume that many people have had third person experiences/memories with past lives. :)
 
I've never had past life dreams as far as I remember at the moment. In my memories, seen in an altered state of consciousness but factually awake, my perspective can alter. Usually, it's the first-person perspective but often it seems like I am not fully merged with this first-person, as my consciousness follows like a shadow (shadow body?) about 20 cm out of the first-person's perspective. Sometimes it clicks in and out. A third-person perspective sometimes happens but only within a scene. So this third-person perspective is still part of the memory. I'll try to explain this by one example. I've seen myself entering an unknown inn, looking around to determine whether it was a safe place to stay the night there. It was a strong memory that stayed coherent, didn't fade out, didn't blur, so I stopped walking and my attention was caught by several historical details. Then suddenly I saw myself sitting at the table, eating some stew with bread, along with my husband and child. I was surprised to see myself from a distance and immediately I changed perspective and I was 'inside myself' eating my food.

I think that the moment I paused within this memory, somehow another part of the time just continued. I can't explain why I could see myself from the outside (more like a presence than a detailed image).

I've also seen myself from a distance in other situations but that was during/after torture or around death, so that may have been out of body experiences at that time in the past.
 
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