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lesson of fear ?

Jaimie

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Wonder if anyone here has in past life been exposed to feeling fear for a long time, and what the purpose of that would then be ? What lesson could it be ?

I see this happen again and again in my past lives. Instance is that my 2 past life husbands ( different spirits ), different lives, were in touch with the criminal world which caused me great stress, fear, not wanting any of that. Another was being exposed to some with very bad tempers ( and some even violent ).

/Jaimie
 
Me. I spent 7 years being afraid of being denounced as a Jew in hiding even though I had the highest protection possible in Germany.

I don’t feel that there is any sort of purpose to fear as it is merely just your conscious mind (ego) feeling afraid of being left behind as you spiritually progress. The world is moving into 5D now, and the 3D ego is freaking out, that’s why there is so much $hit going on right now in the world...

Eva x
 
Me. I spent 7 years being afraid of being denounced as a Jew in hiding even though I had the highest protection possible in Germany.

I don’t feel that there is any sort of purpose to fear as it is merely just your conscious mind (ego) feeling afraid of being left behind as you spiritually progress. The world is moving into 5D now, and the 3D ego is freaking out, that’s why there is so much $hit going on right now in the world...

Eva x
Eva, could you explain this 3D/5D - thing happening, in a simple way? And also this money-**** going on, that you mentioned, please?
 
Eva, could you explain this 3D/5D - thing happening, in a simple way? And also this money-**** going on, that you mentioned, please?

Third Dimension (3D) is literally what we are in right now and is the reason why most Empaths like myself find it so difficult to be here because there is so much hate and violence. We pay little attention to news broadcasts and newspapers because the current affairs deeply hurt and upset us.

Spiritually advanced souls who have the ability to be in the 4th and 5th Dimensions, see things from an entirely different perception and recognise the current world’s current affairs and the reason why natural disasters are happening.

Also, some souls ‘live’ in the 5th Dimension which means that they do not think on a linear conscious basis, while they are here on Earth living their human lives. I have a friend like this, and even though I do not think linearly sometimes, I have to really think hard about what they say. I myself am somewhere between the 4th and 5th Dimensions and I find the 3rd Dimension (the current state of Earth) very hard to be in like most Empaths.

Forget the $ business. That was just so I could write the word ****.

Eva x
 
Third Dimension (3D) is literally what we are in right now and is the reason why most Empaths like myself find it so difficult to be here because there is so much hate and violence. We pay little attention to news broadcasts and newspapers because the current affairs deeply hurt and upset us.

Spiritually advanced souls who have the ability to be in the 4th and 5th Dimensions, see things from an entirely different perception and recognise the current world’s current affairs and the reason why natural disasters are happening.

Also, some souls ‘live’ in the 5th Dimension which means that they do not think on a linear conscious basis, while they are here on Earth living their human lives. I have a friend like this, and even though I do not think linearly sometimes, I have to really think hard about what they say. I myself am somewhere between the 4th and 5th Dimensions and I find the 3rd Dimension (the current state of Earth) very hard to be in like most Empaths.

Forget the $ business. That was just so I could write the word ****.

Eva x
Does there really exist individuals that live without any connection to the spiritual world - without any relation to the transcendental dimention - wich would mean they exist only in the materialistic 3D world? And if so, how would one acctually know this?
 
Does there really exist individuals that live without any connection to the spiritual world - without any relation to the transcendental dimention - wich would mean they exist only in the materialistic 3D world? And if so, how would one acctually know this?
Good question, quite impossible to answer
 
Good question, quite impossible to answer
Why would it be impossible to answer? Its clearly not impossible to answer.

If you belive in the existence of the soul, you also belive in trancendence, as the soul is tracendental.

So unless you belive in the possibility of a human body living without a soul, you cannot state there are individuals who have no connection to the trancendental/spiritual world. To have a soul, is to have a trancendental/spiritual side.

If somebody is of the belife there lives individuals in the world with a human-like apperance, but that have no soul (or are not soul in their essence), that is another interesting point of view.

Especially interesting I think it is, who these people would be. Who are "they", who doesn't have a soul, in the opinion of somebody who belive they exist?
 
Why would it be impossible to answer? Its clearly not impossible to answer.

If you belive in the existence of the soul, you also belive in trancendence, as the soul is tracendental.

So unless you belive in the possibility of a human body living without a soul, you cannot state there are individuals who have no connection to the trancendental/spiritual world. To have a soul, is to have a trancendental/spiritual side.

If somebody is of the belife there lives individuals in the world with a human-like apperance, but that have no soul (or are not soul in their essence), that is another interesting point of view.

Especially interesting I think it is, who these people would be. Who are "they", who doesn't have a soul, in the opinion of somebody who belive they exist?
Sorry, now I know what you meant. I misunderstood. Sometimes I think I know better English than I actually do.
/Jaimie
 
Does there really exist individuals that live without any connection to the spiritual world - without any relation to the transcendental dimention - wich would mean they exist only in the materialistic 3D world? And if so, how would one acctually know this?

Stewardess,

In my understanding, I think what you mean is the people who have VERY THICK veils and are unaware of their connection to the spiritual world.

In my other job, I have a great opportunity to watch people’s behaviour and how they see the materistic world (the 3D world). Most are of the impression that everything today is disposable and unrecyclable, while others understand that we need to begin to recycle and help the planet.

It continually amazes me because I also see how they behave towards others, and even their own children. I constantally ask myself ‘ I wonder what their lessons are’ and my guides tell me that while I can ponder these things, they are essentially none of my business.

Recently, I have been telling my guides that I feel as if I am ‘being left behind’. This was in fact, my 3D conscious mind being fearful of losing grip on what it feels comfortable with. Since then, while I have still been fearful sometimes, I understand now that lessons of fear are merely just another lesson for us to learn, but also can have past-life origins (as I mentioned in my first post of this thread).

Eva x
 
Sorry, now I know what you meant. I misunderstood. Sometimes I think I know better English than I actually do.
/Jaimie
I am the one to apologise for my English - wich is a language my soul and mind until resently resisted to learn. (This is also because of the war. Im a german soul, and we were at war with the english. We didnt like anything english, including their language.)
 
I am the one to apologise for my English - wich is a language my soul and mind until resently resisted to learn. (This is also because of the war. Im a german soul, and we were at war with the english. We didnt like anything english, including their language.)

Interesting you mention this, as in my German lifetime I did not want to learn English either and was happy to learn Czech and a small piece of Latvian. Did you know that most Germans who went to gymnasium learned English as well as languages such as Russian too?

Eva x
 
Interesting you mention this, as in my German lifetime I did not want to learn English either and was happy to learn Czech and a small piece of Latvian. Did you know that most Germans who went to gymnasium learned English as well as languages such as Russian too?

Eva x
Thats very interesting, Eva. I have acctually not read anyting about the curriculum in gymnasium. The one thing I know is that, despite not exactly liking the english, we were quite curious about them. Im sure we kind of looked up to the brits - secretly. It was this image of this upper class people with the very fine customs. And at the same time feeling a bit underdog one self. Because we germans were in general more farmer-like people, more rural, more raw, more under class. Its a bit difficult to explain how we felt about "the english". But I would say it was this very ambivalent thing, that we absolutely didnt like them, but at the same time we admired them and were curious about them.
 
The one thing I know is that, despite not exactly liking the english, we were quite curious about them. Im sure we kind of looked up to the brits - secretly. It was this image of this upper class people with the very fine customs. And at the same time feeling a bit underdog one self. Because we germans were in general more farmer-like people, more rural, more raw, more under class. Its a bit difficult to explain how we felt about "the english". But I would say it was this very ambivalent thing, that we absolutely didnt like them, but at the same time we admired them and were curious about them.

I guess every German soul would somewhat feel that way....
 
I guess every German soul would somewhat feel that way....
Yeah, this feeling of the english like some kind of desese that wants to take over the world. And now it has taken over. And I still feel like protesting against it... It still doesent feel right that one language and one type of culture and mind-set (the anglo-american) shall dominate the whole world the way it does.
 
Yeah, this feeling of the english like some kind of desese that wants to take over the world. And now it has taken over. And I still feel like protesting against it... It still doesent feel right that one language and one type of culture and mind-set (the anglo-american) shall dominate the whole world the way it does.

Well, literally almost every country in the world is aware of Anglo-American influence....

And whether we like or not, it won't go away anytime soon.
 
Well, literally almost every country in the world is aware of Anglo-American influence....

And whether we like or not, it won't go away anytime soon.
You are right. But I'm concerned about smaller people/nations around the world, should preserve their own culture and traditions, beside of being heavily influensed of anglo-americanism.
 
I think the question of fear is a good one, one I can't answer, though...wondering the same thing here...

During the World War II I was Anna and hated the German language. In my own life I skipped my German language classes. Didn't care. My parents did not know what to do with me. I could not stand listening to it, much less learning it. It was very strong feeling with me. My parents never believed I was Anna and had lived in Italy during WW2 and I was told to not say a word of it to anyone.

During the war I also developed a dislike against our own soldiers, Mussolini, and when the American troopers came (my future husband Vito, Italian-American as they call them, came too) I was not completely crazy about them either. I just hated war and I did not like to see anyone in uniform. I did not gush. I was fascinated by the Vito spoke. He had no accent. He looked 100% Italian, and spoke with a Brooklyn accent. I couldn't get over that. When he spoke Italian he spoke so slow at first, so I was telling him not to do that or people would think he was slow for real. He was offended but laughing at the same time. He never put me down even if I was terrible, just terrible, with the American language. Instead he would lean towards me and say the right word or explain something, he would try to transform it to something else by putting his hand on my arm, say something in my ear, kiss me very gently and very quickly near the ear, as if that was his first mission to do, not to tell me the right word. Now I don't know, but in my memory there was a gesture with the hand and the face, underneath the chin, I think, some sort, I did it so quick, that I did once when I was so mad, we had just come from somewhere, think people were in our living room and he came with me to the kitchen, and I did that gesture. His mouth got wide open, his eyes stared at me, and he couldn't believe it, that I did that gesture. I don't know what it meant, more than it was something bad. I was so frustrated because I did not know the words, the American ones, and I don't think that would have been enough. I can't remember that his parents or siblings or other relatives or friends spoke Italian in Brooklyn, perhaps a word or two. When I got mad I would take to my old dear Italian words, no American word could beat that, I thought ;)

I hope I don't make anyone mad at me for writing in this way about the German language. I think it is what it stood for, for me, emotionally, practically it is a good language. It is just me with the bad memories from it that transform it to something bad.

Best Wishes
Li-La
 
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I think the question of fear is a good one, one I can't answer, though...wondering the same thing here...

During the World War II I was Anna and hated the German language. In my own life I skipped my German language classes. Didn't care. My parents did not know what to do with me. I could not stand listening to it, much less learning it. It was very strong feeling with me. My parents never believed I was Anna and had lived in Italy during WW2 and I was told to not say a word of it to anyone.

During the war I also developed a dislike against our own soldiers, Mussolini, and when the American troopers came (my future husband Vito, Italian-American as they call them, came too) I was not completely crazy about them either. I just hated war and I did not like to see anyone in uniform. I did not gush. I was fascinated by the Vito spoke. He had no accent. He looked 100% Italian, and spoke with a Brooklyn accent. I couldn't get over that. When he spoke Italian he spoke so slow at first, so I was like telling him not to do that or people would think he was slow for real. He was offended but laughing at the same time. He never, not once that I can remember, put me down even if I was terrible, just terrible, with the American language, he would lean towards me and say the right word or explain something, he would try to transform it to something else by putting his hand on my arm, say something in my ear, and kiss me very gently and quickly near the ear, as if that was his first mission to do, not to tell me the right word. Now I don't know, but in my memory there was a gesture with the hand and the face, underneath the chin, I think, some sort, anyhow that I did once when I was so mad, we had just come from somewhere, think people were in our living room and he came with me to the kitchen, and I did that gesture. His mouth got wide open, his eyes stared at me, and he couldn't believe it, that I did that gesture. I don't know what it meant, more than it was something bad. I was so frustrated because I did not know the words, the American ones, and I don't think that would have been enough. I can't remember that his parents or siblings or other relatives or friends spoke Italian in Brooklyn, perhaps a word or two. When I got mad I would take to my old dear Italian words, no American word could beat that, I thought ;)

I hope I don't make anyone mad at me for writing in this way about the German language. I think it is what it stood for, for me, emotionally, practically it is a good language. It is just me with the bad memories from it that transform it to something bad.

Best Wishes
Li-La
No, Im not offended by you. German is no more my mother tounge. As Im not ethnically german now.

German also used to be an impetialistic language, just like the English. The Germans also wanted to influense the world and (in a long therm distance) rule it - culturally, economically, by language, and in all other ways. Its just that germanity lost, and thats why it didnt happen. So now the anglo-americanism rules alone. They won ww2, and later they also won over russian culture, as America won the cold war by 1990. And culturally America is about to also rule over China today. Thats at least my observation.
 
No, Im not offended by you. German is no more my mother tounge. As Im not ethnically german now.

German also used to be an impetialistic language, just like the English. The Germans also wanted to influense the world and (in a long therm distance) rule it - culturally, economically, by language, and in all other ways. Its just that germanity lost, and thats why it didnt happen. So now the anglo-americanism rules alone. They won ww2, and later they also won over russian culture, as America won the cold war by 1990. And culturally America is about to also rule over China today. Thats at least my observation.

Well, the country I live in speaks English a little more than its native tongue and to be honest my first language is English, not my native tongue. I am a native of a Southeast Asian country and yet I learned a foreign language first (and technically all by myself since much of the shows I watch when I was young are mostly English)

Quite an irony.
 
Well, the country I live in speaks English a little more than its native tongue and to be honest my first language is English, not my native tongue. I am a native of a Southeast Asian country and yet I learned a foreign language first (and technically all by myself since much of the shows I watch when I was young are mostly English)

Quite an irony.
How sad, really. That you didnt learn your native toung first.
 
I have a fear of going back and living in a mental instition. Its been with me before I found out who and where I was in my previous life. Im trying the best I can to prevent that from happening but the fear lingers in the back of my mind
 
I have a fear of going back and living in a mental instition. Its been with me before I found out who and where I was in my previous life. Im trying the best I can to prevent that from happening but the fear lingers in the back of my mind
I have a sister-in-law, who under different historical circumstances would be a candidate for mental institution. (She hates to work and is an extreamly ego-centric person.) If you go like 40-50 years back in time, in western counties we used to send people who were very problematic to society in a certain way, to mental institutions. These were to a majority people who were schizofernic, paranoid, lazy and shy-of-working, people who kind of did not want to "fit in" by following the written and unwritten rules of society, people who were alcoholics, drug abusers and openly homosexuals.

Currently these groups are not those who go to the mental hospitals anymore. Those who are put into the funny farms nowadays, are people who previously used to be concidered normal. Now its more like the heavily depressed and those with heavy anxiety who goes to the mental hospitals. These are often people who have been strongly traumatised by their own close relationships (in family and at their working place) through a long time in life, and they carry heavy stress and trauma from that mistreatment. Many of them have also been physically and sexually abused. In other words: nowadays the victims of the sick people are sent to mental hospitals/treatment - and not the sick people themselves. The sick go free.

This is symptomatic for the time we live in. Just look at our socity - what it is like.
 
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