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Is death always decided before?

Jaimie

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Hi! Wondering about destiny and when it is our time to go...is it always decided when, how we die? Or is it depending on what road one has taken before?

Think I was a girl who was once in a relationship with actor James Dean who died young? Wonder if that was destiny or could have been avoided?

Appreciate your thoughts
 
To an extent, I think it could. From what I can tell, there seems to be various possible exit points throughout our lives, but we don't have to take them.

There are a lot of views on how reincarnation works and how we end up with the lives we have, and it's really a matter of opinion because no one can definitively claim they have all the answers. Some people think each incarnation is meticulously planned right down to the end, whereas others don't. Others believe it's entirely karma based, i.e you get what you deserve in the next life.

Personally, I see it as like an improvised script; there's something there as sort of a guide, but we can adjust as needed.

Destiny is a funny thing. My mom could have been in a major car accident last week had the doctor's office not been backed up. Even a small choice you make, like taking a different route to work, can have a profound effect.
 
I believe there is free will; there are karmic influences; we all follow an evolvement path; everybody has a life lesson.
 
Thank you everyone who has written and/or done likes :)

I was watching "Autopsy - the last hours of James Dean". It was explained that Dean's life could have been saved had he had a neck support in the ambulance (which they did not have in those days) and if the ambulance it self had not been in a car collision on the way to the hospital. All news to me. It is very sad.

I have been thinking if her death was destiny as well. Especially when someone else brought it on her.
/J
 
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Personally I believe in a strange mix of determination and free will, like in a theater play were the actors have the basic script, but are free to improvise.
My views are quite similar.

In my opinion, there are various planned 'scenes' as in a play, but the actual script is not written, we must improvise our way through each one. The decisions we make and actions we take (or decisions and actions we don't take) will dynamically change the scenes which are in our future. It may be that there are certain key events which are planned, but there may also be splits in our path, a fork in the road, if we take one path, a set of scenes lie ahead, take the other branch and a different set of scenes will be laid out. Of course these paths may criss-cross, so that some forks in the road will still lead to the same destination, but I don't think that's always the case.

At any rate, for me free-will is a necessity for our existence, if we didn't have it, then we would be mere puppets dancing to someone/something else's tune. Life would be both meaningless and pointless if that were so.

All in my opinion of course.
 
Personally I believe in a strange mix of determination and free will, like in a theater play were the actors have the basic script, but are free to improvise.
Strange indeed. Do you believe that the death time is determined and guarded against free will? If the main character dies premature, then we can throw the script to the trash bin.
 
Strange indeed. Do you believe that the death time is determined and guarded against free will? If the main character dies premature, then we can throw the script to the trash bin.
What main character? In the play (or game) called life, it is a matter of perspective who is the main character. Some people might be more influential, but everyone would be the main character in their own life. If somebody quits prematurely or is taken out prematurely, the others go on with their own.
Maybe a multiplayer online game would be a better comparison (can't really compare it to anything anyway). With a story where you either can finish the quest, get killed by monsters or other players or quit prematurely.
 
I don't think death is decided before
I was born dead and revived several times in the first hours after birth so if death is pre determined I wouldn't be here right now, and honestly I don't even want to be here
 
Hi! Wondering about destiny and when it is our time to go...is it always decided when, how we die? Or is it depending on what road one has taken before?

Think I was a girl who was once in a relationship with actor James Dean who died young? Wonder if that was destiny or could have been avoided?

Appreciate your thoughts
Do you know who you were in the relationship with Dean?
 
Hi! Wondering about destiny and when it is our time to go...is it always decided when, how we die? Or is it depending on what road one has taken before?

Think I was a girl who was once in a relationship with actor James Dean who died young? Wonder if that was destiny or could have been avoided?

Appreciate your thoughts

Jaimie,

As I understand it before we come into incarnation we not only chose our rebirth (if we are evolved enough to be part of this) we also chose our death while on the soul/causal plane. This is what some call an exist point. There are usually 3 or 4 of these build in every lifetime we life here. These are points within ones lifetime where the soul may exist or leave the physical world when all the karmic lessons or at least most of the them have been learned or worked out. If the soul chose to stay and keep going they it will pass one of these exist point and continue on the physical world due to there being a mission not finished, lessons not learned yet or to aid and teach others ect..

However if the soul uses one of these exist points then it will leave the physical world and move inward into one of the higher dimensions to continue on its learning and experience. From a physical level this may seem unfair especially if one dies young. However from a soul level this is understood. A child might be 8 or 9yrs old but the soul of that child is older than the universe in which it lives in. So birth and death to the soul is nothing more then the coming and going of the soul from the physical plane.

Hope this helps some. You can look up exist points on the web to learn more about it.

Peace an love....

P.
 
I believe there is free will; there are karmic influences; we all follow an evolvement path; everybody has a life lesson.

I wonder what my life lesson is, then...I feel like it is strongly based around my believes in child-raising since they have been shaped by the consequences of trauma resulting from being a preemie and having to spend time in an incubator.

But there is also the possibility that lesson is based on the politics I believe in. I'm not currently politically active but I have strong beliefs (which obviously I can't talk about here) and I feel reluctant to engage in the political activity necessary for my beliefs but that would clash almost certainly with my job training and settle down first. But perhaps, if I were to be politically active I would find a relationship that I so desperately want because among a group that has the same interests it might be easier to find someone. So it could be several lessons.
 
I'm someone who does not believe in this religion of "lessons". It is some sort of ideology which has grown up in popular culture as the idea of reincarnation has become more widely discussed. For me, I'm just here to be myself. That's really all. Just to be.

I don't believe in them either, actually. But if they were to exist, they would be about what I described above.
 
Hi! Wondering about destiny and when it is our time to go...is it always decided when, how we die? Or is it depending on what road one has taken before?

Think I was a girl who was once in a relationship with actor James Dean who died young? Wonder if that was destiny or could have been avoided?

Appreciate your thoughts

As per the yogic philosophy, if one lives compulsively, then the destiny is quite predictable and dictated by past karmas. Death would then happen as destined or as per karmic calculation.

However, when one starts living consciously the predictability ceases. Practice of meditation and spiritual exercises is considered to enhance the lifespan.

The prana or life-force, as well as the faculty of intuition increases with meditation or conscious living, and this may be the reasons for the enhanced lifespan.
 
hi,
I appreciate to read the comments posted here, very interesting your opinions.
I think we hear and/or read different things over time, some say when we come back to life, we have a definite amount of time to live.
When you take into consideration what we can change with free will, it kind of pushes for far more flexibility in the scenario.
We can also have shared karma with a specific person and see where the free will of both will take you, when interacting again.
I somehow feel that crucial events in one's life are part of the life-plan for which you come back down to reintegrate physical life, if not, why make a life-plan?
So I think there's a general story-line that sets the tone, and then much can be 'improvised' through your free will, and that of others we interact with, and depend on.
 
As per the yogic philosophy, if one lives compulsively, then the destiny is quite predictable and dictated by past karmas. Death would then happen as destined or as per karmic calculation.

However, when one starts living consciously the predictability ceases. Practice of meditation and spiritual exercises is considered to enhance the lifespan.

The prana or life-force, as well as the faculty of intuition increases with meditation or conscious living, and this may be the reasons for the enhanced lifespan.
Hi! Wondering about destiny and when it is our time to go...is it always decided when, how we die? Or is it depending on what road one has taken before?

Think I was a girl who was once in a relationship with actor James Dean who died young? Wonder if that was destiny or could have been avoided?

Appreciate your thoughts
 
I am most curious for personal reasons. Do you know what your name was? Any other details?
I am looking into my own past and believe we may have been connected. Thank you.
 
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