Two questions about reincarnation

Hello everyone.
Sorry for my English language, it's very, very bad but I'll do my best.
I have a personal question and a general one about reincarnation.

1.
I'm almost 100% sure that my last life was during World War II, even though I do not know many details.
But the details I know say that I was a Jew in Poland or a German soldier in Poland and that thats life was extremely traumatic for me.
It may sound strange that I'm not sure if I was a Jew or a German soldier because they are two completely opposite sides, but that's how it is.
Now comes my first question.
I would like to explore this life with meditation and other spiritual means, but at the same time I feel afraid to do so because I instinctively feel that there is quite a difficult memory waiting for me.
So what do you say, to do anyway or not, I really want to know but at the same time I am afraid to know it. Your opinions?

2.
You who also lived during ww2 and remember time when you died and come to heaven , do you have any idea what happens in the other dimension with extremely evil people like Hitler, Goebbels, Heidrich and many others?
I would be quite disappointed if they did not get some kind of punishment for their disgusting crimes.

Whitey said:

1.
But the details I know say that I was a Jew in Poland or a German soldier in Poland and that thats life was extremely traumatic for me.

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Hi Whitey!

WWII lifetimes were traumatic for most souls, especially those who were in WWII Germany. Both my twin soul and I were in WWII Germany.

I would like to explore this life with meditation and other spiritual means, but at the same time I feel afraid to do so because I instinctively feel that there is quite a difficult memory waiting for me.
So what do you say, to do anyway or not, I really want to know but at the same time I am afraid to know it. Your opinions?

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WWII memories will be quite difficult for you if you are not ready to see them, and they may traumatise more. Especially if you were a persecuted Jew. If you search for my posts, I tell little bits about my life in Theresienstadt Ghetto, Riga Ghetto and Auschwitz -Birkenau after I was denounced in November 1942.

2.
You who also lived during ww2 and remember time when you died and come to heaven , do you have any idea what happens in the other dimension with extremely evil people like Hitler, Goebbels, Heidrich and many others?

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Well, I can tell you that Heydrich has repaid his own karma from that lifetime. How do I know? I am his twin soul and he is the other half of me. Long story. PM me if you want to know more, because some of it is rather private.

It is my understanding that Hitler has not been allowed to reincarnate yet as a result of what he did in WWII. My guides tell me that he had one chance to make things good, but didn’t.

The reincarnation of Himmler used to be on this forum (search for user ‘Phoenix’, her posts should still be around I think). She actually wrote a book on her discovery of have being Heinrich Himmler in her past lifetime. It’s a very good read, and I highly advise you find her book and read it. If you can’t find the title, let me know.

All the best,
Eva x

When it comes to past lives like that it is best to not rush things and take them one step at a time as they come otherwise you'll be in for a lot at once. For me I don't remember much but was around and did survive though don't know how that life ended but it left a lot of emotions that is still being dealt with to no end. All in all just don't break yourself trying to get answers.

Whitey said:

Hello everyone.
Sorry for my English language, it's very, very bad but I'll do my best.
I have a personal question and a general one about reincarnation.
2.
You who also lived during ww2 and remember time when you died and come to heaven , do you have any idea what happens in the other dimension with extremely evil people like Hitler, Goebbels, Heidrich and many others?
I would be quite disappointed if they did not get some kind of punishment for their disgusting crimes.

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One poet said: "Nobody is a bad man, one is just weaker than the other."

Secondly, I have the theory that a man can be under the spell of big Evil. If that is the case, Hitler should meet the doctor, not the punisher, in after life.

Hi Whitey,

Welcome to the forum.
I read your post with interest. I wonder how you knew about your former life? Was it through dreams, memory flashes, strong feelings?
I understand that it can be confusing not to know exactly your point of view in the past. During WWII the 'Jew' and the 'soldier' could have come from the exact background. Not all Jews were religious by that time and the nazis took ancestry as a determination tool. So many people were declared Jewish by surprise.

Whitey said:

I would be quite disappointed if
they did not get some kind of punishment for their disgusting crimes

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I know it can be tempting to wish some people a hellish afterlife but the truth is that we don't know enough about what will happen after death. We really don't know. Of course, there are the accounts of people who experienced NDE's (near-death experiences), the accounts of people who remember the time between two lives as well as their former lives, and the numerous religious explanations. The problem is that those accounts differ extensively between them. Not a reason to dismiss all of them, because you can also argue things like: (1) after death you'll experience your expectations first, or (2) you'll end up in a place that matches the maturity of your soul.
There are not so many accounts of Hell and I find them suspicious when those stories are told in a religious context. (for example, I saw on video the NDE testimony of a young Jewish boy while he was backed up by his Rabbi who almost put the words into his mouth and who emphasized his vision of Hell in the afterlife.)

In general, people don't speak about punishments in the afterlife and I wouldn't count on it to happen for your enemies.

Whitey said:

I would like to explore this life with meditation and other spiritual means, but at the same time I feel afraid to do so because I instinctively feel that there is quite a difficult memory waiting for me.

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I hope you can afford it because the best advice in your situation is to go to a licensed reincarnation therapist. There is a reason why we forget our former lives. The amnesia gives us the freedom to explore options time after time. It also shields us against old and dysfunctional trauma. When you go to a professional, they can evaluate together with you the pros and cons of going back to a former life and in case you'll go into a regression, they'll be skilled to guide you through the process.

Thanks to everyone who responded, I really appreciate this.
It seems that you agree there is better for me not to explore this life.
My feelings actually say the same thing.
Let it be forgotten.

When it comes to the fate of the afterlife for Nazis and similar criminals I can understand that there is no hell but at the same time I have a very hard time accepting this.
I do not hate them in an intellectual way (because they were brutal murderers) but in a highly personal way because I "know" that they are responsible for my own traumatic death and the death of my loved ones.
These are two completely different things.

Eva 1942
I will read your own experience under WW2 and then I will answer you. I actually have several questions

Fireflydancing

#I wonder how you knew about your former life? Was it through dreams, memory flashes, strong feelings?#

This is a long story. I will describe this in the past life memories section. Or maybe I can do it here?
I do not know what the forum rules say.

Whitey said:

This is a long story. I will describe this in the past life memories section. Or maybe I can do it here?
I do not know what the forum rules say.

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I advise you to make a new thread in the section Past Life Memories.

Ok. Thanks.
I have already written my post there.

Eva 1942
What it means to be half ex-Nazi SS, half ex-persecuted Jew?
It's quite confusing.
I read that you were a Jewish woman who died in early 1945 after Auschwitz was liberated.
Two souls cannot be reincarnated in one body in the next life, or?

Whitey said:

Ok. Thanks.
I have already written my post there.

Eva 1942
What it means to be half ex-Nazi SS, half ex-persecuted Jew?
It's quite confusing.
I read that you were a Jewish woman who died in early 1945 after Auschwitz was liberated.
Two souls cannot be reincarnated in one body in the next life, or?

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In my opinion, this is actually common for a soul to have multiple concurrent incarnations as there are many facets and attributes that are not expressible in a single life as well all the usual reasons such as learning from different perspectives and life experiences ect.

Whitey said:

Ok. Thanks.
I have already written my post there.

Eva 1942
What it means to be half ex-Nazi SS, half ex-persecuted Jew?
It's quite confusing.
I read that you were a Jewish woman who died in early 1945 after Auschwitz was liberated.
Two souls cannot be reincarnated in one body in the next life, or?

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Eva hinted above having a twin soul, who was ss-man during the war.

Whitey said:

Eva 1942
What it means to be half ex-Nazi SS, half ex-persecuted Jew?
It's quite confusing.
I read that you were a Jewish woman who died in early 1945 after Auschwitz was liberated.

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Let me explains....

I was a part-Jewish woman who died in March 1945 in Auschwitz-Birkenau AFTER the liberation. I was protected by my twin soul until his death in mid 1942 (Again, see my OP. Heydrich was/is my twin soul. He was protecting me and many others.). After that, they preyed on me, because the protection I had was weaker.

Therefore one half of my soul is ex-Nazi SS and the other half is ex-persecuted Jew.

Peace of mind said:

Eva hinted above having a twin soul, who was ss-man during the war.

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Yeah that’s all I can do Peace of mind. Hint. I don’t think the Mods like it too much when I explain that side of reincarnation. There’s more than one side to reincarnation and we must be willing to explore ALL sides, not just the one we ‘like’ the most, or the one that suits our beliefs.

Eva x

Whitey said:

do you have any idea what happens in the other dimension with extremely evil people like Hitler, Goebbels, Heidrich and many others?

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Tonight I came across this video (that I used as a podcast while doing something else). It's a bit strange to listen to the voice of a translater, and she talks about NDE's, but when you hold on to the end, the woman tells about her encounters with some evil people from her current life. Former abusers. The weird thing is that one of them had become a radiant, pleasant person and others had remained kind of heavy and evil.
To me, it confirms that we just don't know how things work. It's interesting to meditate on her experiences.

Eva1942

Well, we in Sweden call this överkurs . It is when a person wants to learn something that exceeds his ability. I was reading about the idea that sometimes one soul can gets split into two bodies but never that two souls can live in one body.
It is very difficult for me to understand.
You must forgive me.

PS Heidrich, you mean Reinhard Heidrich?
It is very interesting that I met you here because I am a member of other forums and what do you think whose avatar I use there? "Yes, Josefs Gabcik picture.
A very strange coincidence, isn it?

PPS Thanks fireflydancing, I will watch this video clip a little later.

Whitey said:

Eva1942
PS Heidrich, you mean Reinhard Heidrich?
It is very interesting that I met you here because I am a member of other forums and what do you think whose avatar I use there? "Yes, Josefs Gabcik picture.
A very strange coincidence, isn it?

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Yes. I mean Reinhard Heydrich. Josef was a good man. Used to be friends with his reincarnation in this lifetime.

Nothing is a coincidence, my friend...

Eva x

I forgot to mention.... No one is born evil. Sometimes people may perceive us as evil because they don’t know what lessons the soul was learning in that particular lifetime.

It all just lessons for the soul. Nowadays with so much information and technology, the ego is very quick to judge, without knowing all the facts. From a spiritual side, having a lot of what we would call ‘evil deeds’ in one life, can be the mass karmic repayment of our deeds from lifetimes past.

As a soul, we need to learn all angles. We need to know and learn how it feels to both inflict pain and suffering and also to be on the receiving end too.

Eva x

Fireflydancing

I watched this video clip and it was interesting even though I did not understand just everything due to my lack of good English.
My now dead mother also had NDE when she was around 40 years old and her experience was very similar to that of this woman.
She was lying in bed in her bedroom and suddenly felt great pain in her chest and was at once moved to an incredibly beautiful place with unearthly beautiful flowers that had a color that is not found on Earth.
She told me that the whole place was extremely bright even though she did not see the Sun.
She eventually came to a large bridge and saw an incredibly beautiful city on the other side.
She really wanted to come over but then a man came from the other side and asked her where she was going.
She replied - to this incredibly beautiful city, please let me in -but he refused. He told her that she has a son on the Earth (me) and that her job is to take care of me.
You have to go back, he said.
Then she woke up still with a pain in her chest.
When we went to heart specialist a few days later, they found a large scar on her heart and told her that she had a major heart attack.

I can agree with you that we don't know what happens on the other side with a evil people like Hitler, Mengele, Goebbels...
I may be on a lower spiritual level but I have a hard time accepting that they are not punished for their incredible crimes. That's me, that's my opinion. I cant be anyone else.

Eva 1942

I respect your views but this time I can not agree with you. Sorry.
There's something in your post that worries me. It's hard to explain. Do not get angry on me but it is impossible for me to accept that a baby who was gassed to death in Auschwitz goes to the same place as those who killed her.
I could not accept this opinion no matter how much I tried. Regrets.

Whitey said:

Eva 1942

I respect your views but this time I can not agree with you. Sorry.
There's something in your post that worries me. It's hard to explain. Do not get angry on me but it is impossible for me to accept that a baby who was gassed to death in Auschwitz goes to the same place as those who killed her.
I could not accept this opinion no matter how much I tried. Regrets.

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Sorry for my intromission:

The souls are eternal, or at least that's what we are told here all the time.

The terrestrial life is kind of a masquerade, and all the participants survive, in spite of what might have happened to the roles they interpreted.

It's not so serious as it might have been if there were no re-incarnation and everybody lived only one life, and after one's death everything finished for him/her for the rest of the eternity.

It's a big global theatre we are all in, don't take it all too seriously.

IMHO.

Regards.

Whitey said:

Fireflydancing

I watched this video clip and it was interesting even though I did not understand just everything due to my lack of good English.
My now dead mother also had NDE when she was around 40 years old and her experience was very similar to that of this woman.
She was lying in bed in her bedroom and suddenly felt great pain in her chest and was at once moved to an incredibly beautiful place with unearthly beautiful flowers that had a color that is not found on Earth.
She told me that the whole place was extremely bright even though she did not see the Sun.
She eventually came to a large bridge and saw an incredibly beautiful city on the other side.
She really wanted to come over but then a man came from the other side and asked her where she was going.
She replied - to this incredibly beautiful city, please let me in -but he refused. He told her that she has a son on the Earth (me) and that her job is to take care of me.
You have to go back, he said.
Then she woke up still with a pain in her chest.
When we went to heart specialist a few days later, they found a large scar on her heart and told her that she had a major heart attack.

I can agree with you that we don't know what happens on the other side with a evil people like Hitler, Mengele, Goebbels...
I may be on a lower spiritual level but I have a hard time accepting that they are not punished for their incredible crimes. That's me, that's my opinion. I cant be anyone else.

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I know that most of those who were apart of all that did go on to reincarnate including Goebbels, unsure of Hitler and Mengele. If you search around you'll find someone here on the forum that is convincing to have been Goebbels. The past life accounts that get my attention the most however are those the Biblical era as well some others. I will say this though that once one does pass over to the other side they do experience everything they've done as part of a life review including from the perspectives of others they have interacted with or had some impact so the more one does in that capacity the more they'll feel it back in return.

Cyrus said:

Sorry for my intromission:

The souls are eternal, or at least that's what we are told here all the time.

The terrestrial life is kind of a masquerade, and all the participants survive, in spite of what might have happened to the roles they interpreted.

It's not so serious as it might have been if there were no re-incarnation and everybody lived only one life, and after one's death everything finished for him/her for the rest of the eternity.

It's a big global theatre we are all in, don't take it all too seriously.

IMHO.

Regards.

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Well I agree and dont agree with you at the same time.
I agree that human souls are probably immortal but I dont agree with yours-dont take it all too seriosly- argument.
Our souls are fragile too and as I described in my previous posts, my current life is strongly influenced by my traumatic past life during WW2. Not for the better. I'm an injured soul, I'm not feeling well.
Besides that, there is something dangerous in such an attitude because we do not know after all if there is something like heaven and hell or not. We can only speculate.

Regards to you too.

There and back again said:

I know that most of those who were apart of all that did go on to reincarnate including Goebbels, unsure of Hitler and Mengele. If you search around you'll find someone here on the forum that is convincing to have been Goebbels. The past life accounts that get my attention the most however are those the Biblical era as well some others.

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I am very, very, I mean VERY skeptical when someone comes and says that he or she was a famous person in the past life. All of my red lights starts flashing at the same time.
How do you know that a Goebbels is reincarnated?

Whitey said:

Our souls are fragile too and as I described in my previous posts, my current life is strongly influenced by my traumatic past life during WW2. Not for the better. I'm an injured soul, I'm not feeling well.

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I’m a traumatised, fragmented soul too. The Holocaust on both sides of my soul traumatised it dearly.

I’m slowly putting both myself and my twin back together again. It’s hard work, and sometimes downright emotional and distressing, but out of the fire comes a better whole, healed self.

Three years ago, we never would have set foot inside a Holocaust Museum. We were both afraid to face what we had planned or endured. Now I’ve attended one, and another - an opening on the eve of Kristallnacht anniversary, which was one of the most painful times in our lives. I feel better, stronger and healed. It was so liberating to pit the heartache of those times to rest.

Yesterday in Australia, January 20 - the 79th anniversary of the Wannsee Conference. Both parts of my soul were at that conference too, one as a stenographer and the other as chairperson. It still hurts, but every year we get stronger by these events that shaped our souls, and accept that we are not innocent.

All in good time my friend, you will discover what you need to know when it’s the right time.

Eva x

Whitey said:

Hello everyone.
Sorry for my English language, it's very, very bad but I'll do my best.
I have a personal question and a general one about reincarnation.

1.
I'm almost 100% sure that my last life was during World War II, even though I do not know many details.
But the details I know say that I was a Jew in Poland or a German soldier in Poland and that thats life was extremely traumatic for me.
It may sound strange that I'm not sure if I was a Jew or a German soldier because they are two completely opposite sides, but that's how it is.
Now comes my first question.
I would like to explore this life with meditation and other spiritual means, but at the same time I feel afraid to do so because I instinctively feel that there is quite a difficult memory waiting for me.
So what do you say, to do anyway or not, I really want to know but at the same time I am afraid to know it. Your opinions?

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There are ashrams in India with meditation techniques to uncover one's past lives, which one does together with a regression expert. But prior to doing this regression, emphasis is put on spiritual exercises and practices for a period of time, say 6 months, to ensure mental equanimity and stability.

This is because some of the memories have the potential to be traumatic, and mental equanimity created by spiritual practice ensures that such traumatic memories can be processed without any issues.

Such mental equanimity and stability gained also will do wonders in our day to day lives, as we will cease to be negative/reactive and be calm and composed in all situations and circumstances, which is the ideal state for efficient actions.

Whitey said:

You who also lived during ww2 and remember time when you died and come to heaven , do you have any idea what happens in the other dimension with extremely evil people like Hitler, Goebbels, Heidrich and many others?
I would be quite disappointed if they did not get some kind of punishment for their disgusting crimes.

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In my opinion, everyone has karma to pay for, some in small amounts and some in large amounts.

But essentially all such negativities are committed due to ignorance, as per eastern philosophy.

You may have heard of Angulimala, a serial killer in ancient India who was reformed by the Buddha and became a saint himself. He was beaten up by people related to his victims while he was begging for alms as a monk. But he never retaliated against them and endured them patiently realizing them to be his karma returning back.

Ratnakara was a robber and highwayman who was similarly reformed by sages and good company, and became a reformed saint himself. He was the author of the ancient Hindu epic Ramayana and is better known as Valmiki. It is said that sinners are future saints.

So one may have to suffer for negative karma created due to ignorance, in my opinion, but essentially the soul is eternal and immortal , and is characterized by bliss and peace as its natural state, as per eastern philosophy.

One creates ones own heaven and hell with one's own karma or actions, virtuous or vicious, respectively.

Whitey said:

Well I agree and dont agree with you at the same time.
I agree that human souls are probably immortal but I dont agree with yours-dont take it all too seriosly- argument.
Our souls are fragile too and as I described in my previous posts, my current life is strongly influenced by my traumatic past life during WW2. Not for the better. I'm an injured soul, I'm not feeling well.
Besides that, there is something dangerous in such an attitude because we do not know after all if there is something like heaven and hell or not. We can only speculate.

Regards to you too.

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Hi, Whitey:

If there is nothing after we die, then there are no PLs, and therefore your PL trauma is just a phantasy, a quirk of your imagination, and then there is nothing to worry about, except maybe for a visit to a doctor, if those visions get too disturbing. IMHO

Otherwise - all that I said - applies.

I had a violent death in my last PL (drowned in a warship section after a British torpedo impact) and in WW2, too (!), but in this life I have no traumas of any kind, not even phobia to the water, only nostalgia for that PL of mine that was interruped so early (aged 25 y.).

Wish you all the best.

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I entirely accept your opinion, it just means that you are not ready to accept that all people go to the same place... don’t worry, we all progress in our spiritual learning at different speeds

It might actually be worth researching Nazi Germans who actually were using their higher positions in the NSDAP, SS and Wehrmacht to actually protect and help Jews to escape and survive.

All the best with your healing, and come back to me when you’re ready to learn more.

Eva x

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No one know exactly what happens when we die, only God knows himself. Dont forget that there are a lot of hellish NDE too, as examples here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ib...hares-astonishing-afterlife-experience-831195

Do you know who is Emanuel Swedenborg?
He wroted several books describing his spiritual journey through Heaven and Hell.
He is a very famous person here in Sweden.
So why would I believe you and not him or this woman Stephenie who had hellish NDE?

Cyrus said:

I had a violent death in my last PL (drowned in a warship section after a British torpedo impact) and in WW2, too (!), but in this life I have no traumas of any kind, not even phobia to the water, only nostalgia for that PL of mine that was interruped so early (aged 25 y.).

Wish you all the best.

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We are all different my friend. Some are stronger, some are weaker. In addition, it is not the same if you drowned for a few seconds on a warship or for example if you lived as a Jew in a closed ghetto for several years without food and saw your children or parents starve to death in front of your eyes. Or if you went to Auschwitz with your whole family in a freight train where people were so pressured that they could not move their arms or legs and where they had to pee and poop on themselves like an animal. And when they came to Auschwitz and were sent to the gas chambers, they did not die at once but for 15, 20 minutes their lungs slowly burst and they had to look at their own small children who also died in their hands.
To me, this is a completely different levels of trauma so you can not compare such things at all.
Its just my opinion.
Wish you all the best too.

Just some extra food for thought. The following doesn't express my opinion, but I love to add more and more 'confusion' in the sense of more points of view to the same topic.


Where is Hitler's Soul Now?


What's the Longest Amount of Time a Soul Can Spend in Hell?

fireflydancing said:

Just some extra food for thought. The following doesn't express my opinion, but I love to add more and more 'confusion' in the sense of more points of view to the same topic.
Where is Hitler's Soul Now?

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I found something like this in one of Michael Newton's books.

He spoke about the wicked souls being disassembled.

But, to tell you the truth, this theme doesn't interest me at all.

Thanks for the info, fireflydancing, all the same.

Regards.

Whitey said:

We are all different my friend. Some are stronger, some are weaker. In addition, it is not the same if you drowned for a few seconds on a warship or for example if you lived as a Jew in a closed ghetto for several years without food and saw your children or parents starve to death in front of your eyes. Or if you went to Auschwitz with your whole family in a freight train where people were so pressured that they could not move their arms or legs and where they had to pee and poop on themselves like an animal. And when they came to Auschwitz and were sent to the gas chambers, they did not die at once but for 15, 20 minutes their lungs slowly burst and they had to look at their own small children who also died in their hands.
To me, this is a completely different levels of trauma so you can not compare such things at all.
Its just my opinion.
Wish you all the best too.

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OK, Whitey,

But it has just occurred to me that such kinds of traumas might be a part of the learning process (supposing we re-incarnate to learn something new).

What if having passed through all that hell of ghetto, Auschwitz etc. is not sufficient to conclude the learning plan, so you are additionally charged with that trauma, to finish the course?

And in my case, my PL nostalgia might mean that I hadn't appreciated duly that life of mine when I still had it. Kind of a trauma, too, in a way.

Who knows?

Regards.

Whitey said:

Hello everyone.
Sorry for my English language, it's very, very bad but I'll do my best.
I have a personal question and a general one about reincarnation.

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Rabbi Yonassan Gershom wrote a few books about reincarnated Holocaust victims. He covers many of the questions you have been asking. These books are:

Beyond the Ashes: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0876042930/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2
From Ashes to Healing: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0876043406/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i3

Unfortunately, I do not know what other languages they are published besides English.

But, the main point I am trying to make to you is that you are not alone.