Travel, I enjoy what you wrote on here. You have a unique way of looking at things. To answer your question I don't know why in the past those in western culture thought of the lower astral or what some might term as Hell or purgatory as underground.
This is just my opinion or observation but many back then did not understand the concept of other dimensions. As most of our culture views heaven and hell as either being above or below physically. When in fact they are not physical places but rather other dimensions that occupy the same space and time as we do but vibrate on different frequencies. I believe Jesus was aware of this because he stated ( the kingdom of God is within you seek and you shall find.) or (For many father house has many mansions I go and prepare a place for you. ) He was aware of the concept of other dimensions however many of the masses that lived at that time period did not know how to read or write little alone understand the concept of dimensions. So Jesus spoke in parables to illustrate what he was trying to convey to the people.
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well, that make sense. i'm here on that forum cause i am curious about spiritual things and i want to see also other stuff respect of classical religions dogma. i wanna see what thinks peoples about spiritual realms.
well Jesus lived into a very poor and ignorant enviroment so for be understood from folks he used a lot of metaphor and tales for make sure that folks understand him.
the temptative of explain the existence of such worlds can be a good expanations. i agree with the fact that are not physical dimensions like ancient folks believe. if hell and heaven was physical we would see angels, devils, ghosts and poltergeists, fairy, genius, leprecahuns and other kind of mithologic creatures in every plances of the world every day. but is not so easy. and maybe is a luck. i think that many of peoples will going total crazy with something like that.
is like soul reaver, i not know if you never played him. the main character was an executed vampire that rebirth as a reaper and have the skill to switch itself from inferior astral plane (spectral realm) to material world. pity that his condition avoid him to see the more highter astral planes, but considering the amount of anger and frustration of his soul that make sense.
legacy of kain was an interesting videoludic saga , pity that was cutted off on 2003 and doomed to oblivion. >.<
In the you are correct. All souls are apart of divine love even if they are not aware of it at the time. We will all make mistakes along the way towards enlightenment. However those mistakes are also part of the process in the spiritual learning curve. As we live in worlds of duality here and must experiences both sides of reality.
well, is impossible for learn without mystake. peoples and souls need to learn from direct experiences for understand such things.
also if someone told "the fools learn from experience, the wises from history". but without looking things with eyes, and touching with hands, sometime history is not sufficient for understand. :\
You have such a diverse group of souls from many walks of life here which enrichens ones inner experiences on such topics. It also helps many out there to know that there are others out there that share more or less the state of awareness as themselves that they feel safe in expressing and sharing their experiences.
each one is own spiritual path and own experience, the spiritual world is so big and complex, i guess, that i think that each creature, entity of godness of ancient mithology probably truely exist into the various planes.
each one have his custom path because each soul see only what is true necessary to be seen and understood for the personal growth.
i guess that if folks can't see spiritual things or can't remember pasted life, maybe is cause they are not useful for their spiritual grow and path into that life.
maybe is the motivation cause only 30% of folks with NDE experiment visions of underworld-upperworld during the heartbrakes and the CPR manovures of doctors .
maybe some see the oblivion just cause their soul can't see other thing because is too much heaver and material? or maybe cause is not necessary for these souls for see the other realms for grow up.
i'm not sure. personally i refuse that after death there is only a dark endless void, but i guess that maybe for some souls that kind of no-existences is the states when their falls cause of their different self knowledge of perception. so they not see nothing because they can't see it, also if it exist.
but just is only my speculations.
regards!