Are you a Christian who believes in reincarnation?

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  1. MobiusX

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    Reincarnation is not supported in the bible and is considered to be against the beliefs in Christianity, so what made you a believer? What is the reaction you receive from other Christians when you share your ideas about reincarnation?
     
  2. ChrisR

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    Hi MobiusX


    I'm not a Christian, so I'm not in a position to answer your question. But I just wanted to say that reincarnation was supported in the Bible, but rather than go into all the details, it would be easier for you to read this thread instead.


    Chris
     
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    hydrolad Senior Moderator Super Moderator

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    I consider myself a Christian based on my childhood teachings, but with one exception, I strongly believe in and accept Reincarnation on faith, just as I believe and accept Christianity on faith also.


    I believe that one can be a Christian and believe in Christ's teaching, and also believe in Reincarnation.


    I am also aware that Reincarnation was once in the Bible, but was removed by church leaders with their own agenda to pursue.


    Partly my decision came about from a slow parade of dreams in my childhood where I had images of a life far removed from my current lifetime, and as a child, I KNEW it.


    But the real moment of decision came later as a teenager, after reading every book on Reincarnation in my school library and my public library.


    I generally don't discuss my beliefs with strangers or casual acquaintances, but only do so after I have really got to know that person and their beliefs.


    I was taught to never discuss Politics, Sex or Religion in polite company.


    So there you have my story. :)
     
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    Mobius... Welcome to the forum. I think that both Chris have given you excellent answers. Reincarnation was in the bible and was apart of ancient Christianity. But as hydrolad said, it was removed for their own gain and selfish motive. In an older thread, on just this topic, I wrote the following:

     
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    Hello MobiusX and welcome. :)


    I am no longer a practicing Christian but I can share with you what I have learned about the Church's history in regards reincarnation.


    Reincarnation was commonly believed by early Christians. However, when the Roman Catholic Church was founded in 325 AD by the Roman Emperor Constantine at the Council of Nicea, reincarnation were excluded from Church teachings. This did not extinguish the belief. Over 200 years later, in 543 AD, Emperor Justinian had Pope Vigilius arrested because the Pope refused to condemn the teaching of reincarnation. Justinian called the Fifth General Council, but the Pope refused to attend. They proceeded without him and reincarnation was declared heresy.


    Notice that it was 500 years after the dawn of Christianity before belief in reincarnation was declared heresy, but the Pope opposed the declaration. It is thought that the Emperor wanted the teaching of reincarnation outlawed because it disminished the fear of death. He believed if the people did not fear death, they would not be obedient to the Church or their government. If the people believed they would reincarnate rather than go to Hell, they did not need to turn to the Church for salvation.


    Once it was declared heresy, belief in it could be punishable by death. I think 1000 years of killing heretics effectively dissolved any serious belief in reincarnation in the Christian world. ;)
     
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    As a former Catholic, who spent 12 years in parochial school during the 50's and 60's, I can tell you that most of the people I knew didn't think much about Reincarnation either way, except to make jokes about coming back as worms or roaches. In fact, many of the people I knew made as many cynical jokes about hell and purgatory, as well. Of course, most of the people I knew were Irish, and they didn't put any stock at all in the idea that our dead bodies would, somehow, become whole to resurrect to heaven at the end of time.


    During the ensuing years it seems that Catholics have been more prone to believing in Reincarnation than any other Christian denomination, and have been most instrumental in the propagation of Buddhist philosophy in the west. As indicated above, there is much to be learned about the Church's history of systematically adjusting dogma and biblical references in order to insure greater spread, control and uniformity among followers. One of the first books to discuss these issues was Elaine Pagels' "Gnostic Gospels".
     
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    Tinkerman,


    Your story was absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing with us.


    I have been a Christian since childhood and have struggled in the past several years with what the church teaches versus my belief in reincarnation. I have come to the conclusion that if God is truly good, then it would not make sense for what I know and remember to be revealed to me only to cause me grief. We cannot look to humanity for the answers, because man will ultimately twist the truth for his own gain.
     
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    I'd like to add to this thread again with an observation.


    Reincarnation seems to be accepted (or not accepted) at different levels by the worlds religion's depending on who they are.


    As I've noticed, Catholicism and Judaism (I believe) seem to accept Reincarnation far easier than, say, the Protestant religions do.


    And as I am not well versed in the Far Eastern religions, I'll restrict my comments to the religions I'm most familiar with.


    As a child growing up in the "Bible Belt" whose family was Baptists and/or Methodists, one learned quickly (even as a child) not to mention having lived a life before this one.


    To them, a "new" life meant being saved, and an "old" life was your life before in sin.


    Needless to say, it made for a rather confusing time for me, as a child having dreams of lives not connected to this lifetime.


    And it wasn't until my late teens that my convictions finally solidified to where I wholly accepted Reincarnation as a belief system and this has continued since.


    As I pointed out in other threads, I don't usually discuss Reincarnation with others, until I get to know them well and to know of their belief systems.
     
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    Thanks to all of you


    I am very new to this forum. I want to say what a breath of fresh air all of you are. You are respectful and do not condemn Christianity. I agree with so much of what you all say about the reasons that reincarnation has been condemned. For me, being a Christian is so much more than going to church. I no longer attend a church but am still a Christian. I am as certain as I can be that reincarnation is real. I do wonder why some of us are aware of previous lives and others not.


    It will be so nice to have thoughtful people to discuss this with.
     
  11. Wendy25

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    You can be a Christian and still believe in reincarnation


    I am a Christian. I was raised a Christian and I believe in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and Heaven.


    It wasn't until I lost my one year old son, that on the third day of his passing that I had this overwhelming sensation that he hadn't left me completely, that he would be returning to me and very soon. I didn't know exactly what that meant at first, but the feelings were so strong that I decided to google my feelings on the internet. It wasn't until I sat down to try and think of a word that the computer could understand, that I realised I was thinking about reincarnation.


    I have now come to believe that Heaven is not only a place for souls of people who have passed, but a place for souls who are ready to return. To me God is a merciful God, a forgiving God, and a generous God, so why would he deny any soul to return to earth for a second, third, fourth, fifth, and so on visit. I don't think that he gives us just one go at life, and says, well you had your turn, that's it. I would like to think that all those little babies who die before they are born, or not long after they are born, all those little children who die from horrible illnesses or accidents, young adults, and even the elderly are allowed to be given the chance to return if they so desire.


    Why do some of us remember past lives and others of us don't, well that's a question I can't answer. We can speculate as to why, but I guess that question is again a matter of what we believe, and if we can remember a past life or not.


    Not all Christian's believe in reincarnation, and I have met a few of those people. I have learnt who I can speak to about it and who I can't. But what I have found is that just because a person believes in God, doesn't mean that they are closed minded to the belief of reincarnation.
     
  12. hydrolad

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    Wendy25


    My condolences on the passing of your Son, even though I have had family members pass into Spirit, I can't begin to imagine losing a child.


    I couldn't agree with you more, as I sincerely believe that; believing in and practicing Reincarnation does not lessen your belief in the teachings of Christ Jesus.


    I truly believe that the true essence of what was once your Son exists elsewhere now, that the energy that was (and is) his soul cannot be destroyed, just transformed into another form of existence.


    Your Son is still with you, in Memories and in Spirit, but not in Body, and in the future you may meet again, perhaps as one (or both) of you in a new body.


    I've written elsewhere that I liken Reincarnation to an old comfortable pair of shoes, that over a period of time, slowly wear out; then you acquire a new pair, and they slowly become familiar and comfortable once again.


    I believe, and it's been written by others, that family members tend to Reincarnate together as groups of souls, perhaps in the future, you may be reunited again, in some other form, such as another Son, a Daughter, a Niece or Nephew, or even as a child of a friend.


    All of these scenarios are dependent on certain factors such as the availability of a new body, among other things.


    As a fellow Christian, we are promised that we will see our loved ones again, but not in the way that most Christians envision!


    Sorry for the long post.
     
  13. Jeff Morris

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    I'm a Christian, but I believe in reincarnation. I've always pondered the difference between Eternity in Heaven and everlasting life. The reason I question this is because; 1, Were nowhere near perfect enough to enter Heaven and; 2. I believe that God put us here to fulfill a purpose and keeps sending us back until we get it right. I seem to remember a vision I had as an an infant in my crib looking out the window seeing this well dressed man in a top hat looking at me, tipped his hat and waved goodbye and got in his car and left. At that moment I felt something change, it's like, that's when I became me. I went on throughout the years , always with that vision in the depths of my mind, while one day looking at old family photos I saw a picture of me climbing out of my crib which was taken during the same time period that I had that vision and I noticed that my crib was not anywhere near a window and my mother confirmed that my crib was never by a window. So what was that window I was looking out of as an infant when there wasn't physically a window?
    I can't recall anything from my previous life, but I still vividly recall that day looking out that spiritual window that I believe is when my soul entered my body.
     
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    Nice story so far. I am not Christian. I am Hindu. I would like to know more about reincarnation.
     
  15. Jeff Morris

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    Most Christians don't believe in reincarnation, most Christians believe we go either to Heaven or hell when we pass this life. There are many though who believe that we came from a different life in a different time period and when we die, we enter a different life such as; being reborn (reincarnate) through a friend or a sibling. Doing research on Buddhism should give you the information you need.
     

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