Can everyone be regressed?

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  1. MJR

    MJR New Member

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    I have been trying for over a year now, with Brian Weiss tapes and various you tube videos but get nothing.
    I can relax very deeply - to the point where I can't feel my limbs at all - I meditate every day so know now the feeling - but when it comes to going through doors, mirrors etc - I get nothing at all. In fact I feel I am wide awake with my eyes closed, sometimes feeling I'm even getting a bit bored.
    Am I doing anything wrong, or perhaps some people just can't be regressed. Maybe my spirit guides just just wont allow it for some reason. Am I trying too hard maybe?
    I suppose I should try a "proper regression" with an expert but really can't afford to loose the £50 plus it costs if nothing happens.
    Hope someone can help
    Thanks
     
  2. CanSol

    CanSol Senior Registered

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    In my case only the regression videos from Joe Tracy on youtube work but I have the problem that I can no longer visualize anything while I used to be abe to visualize anything that I've seen
    Now I can only describe something but all I see is blackness, this is also how I exprience regressions these days, I can describe but can't see anything but black so need a vid that asks me questions like "where are you?" "what are you wearing?" And so on

    Some people are new souls so don't have a past life to find
     
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    Totoro Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I have gotten so little from meditation, I've given up on it. I think maybe some people just don't work that way and it's nothing personal, in that regard.

    I came up with my own method and maybe it might work for you. I think technically it's called bilbliomancy and it's easy to do. it does require a bit of meditation, but you're only trying to put yourself into a relaxed, receptive state. You're not doing it to try and visualize anything. If you have a book case or shelf at home (you can do this in an book store or library too) just stand before it, close your eyes and relax by breathing in and out and try and feel your body as it radiates energy. When you feel ready, ask yourself, which book do you want me to choose? keeping your eyes closed, slowly wave your hand in front of the books and select the one that seems to have the most energy around it. After you've selected it, ask your self any question you want and then flip through the book with your fingers, stopping when you feel it's "right" or there's energy coming from that spot.

    You have to give it a few tries, but the results may surprise you after a while. That's honestly how I've found all of my information.

    Good luck !
     
  4. Carloloner

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    I've also been trying to regress myself using the Brian Weiss video and others for some time but but for whatever reason, maybe just not relaxed enough or inability to calm the mind, they never work. I've also wondered if the reason they don't work is the manner of which one or more lives ended and i'm not ready yet to retrieve the memories. It's rather frustrating as there's feeling about certain people, places and cultures i'd like to validate :(.
     
  5. Ritter

    Ritter Senior Registered

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    I would dare venture to say that someone who has not lived before cannot get real results from any regression. Some will imagine things and think what they see is real. Which is what creates the flood of weirdos who tell bad and historically inaccurate sob stories rather than retelling actual memories. I have already made a sort of mental list of dead giveaways. Like talking about past lives while referring to the person they claim to have been as 'him' or 'her' rather than 'I'. Freudian... Or people who rely on popular science and fake history which does not correspond to past reality. The list goes on and gets increasingly offensive. I will cut it short, since I would offend the crap out of a lot of people. Bottom line, many people are definitely fake. It is better to be an honest person in his or her first life ever, than to be delusional or a liar.

    If you see nothing, perhaps there is nothing to see.
     
  6. Li. La.

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    Hi, maybe that type of regression is not just for you, have you had flashbacks of any kind in a waked state? Do you get particularly emotional regarding something that has happened before you got born? Have you had a/some vivid dream that echoed of the past? With me I have always been silly emotional regarding the Italian language for example, it is just home to me (have experienced memories that I was an Italian female but have not found her so can't really take credit for that, sigh). Perhaps if you have someone you know and trust that can do the regression on you, in that case the person can adjust themselves, follow you better than any youtuberegression can? Maybe just regression meditation comes more easily for some but that does not mean it is impossible. Wish you best of luck :) / Li La
     
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    Dear MJR,
    maybe we can help you better if you would tell us why you tried regression in the first place? What drives you to do it? Why do you want it to happen? Like Li.la said, is there any trigger/dream/problem/unexplained phobia you want to overcome?
     
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    I think it´s unlikely that there´s nothing to see.
    Ritter, you have such an arrogant provoking way to make statements it annoys me. You also stated in another thread that animals and even some humans don´t have souls which is a dreadful thing to say. Sure it makes no sense to argue here but I just feel like I ought to make a statement here too. ;)
    Otherwise I tend not to judge like I don´t judge any claims people make. I may have doubts though.
     
  9. Ritter

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    Okay.
     
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  10. MJR

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    Got cancer, looking for answers as the end approaches. I have had "messages" from my parents on the other side through mediums and directly.
    Read all of Brian's books, Bob Olsen, Moody, Newton, etc. and Carol of course.
     
  11. SeaAndSky

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    Hi MJR,

    I recall speaking to you in your first thread a few months back:

    http://reincarnationforum.com/threads/question-about-souls-place-in-our-bodies.7420/

    Some people are a lot more easily hypnotized than others. In fact, I have heard that some cannot be hypnotized at all (though KenJ would be the best person to speak to that issue based on his own background as a counselor). However, even without that barrier, there is the problem of "suggestion" as part of hypnosis. If not very properly and carefully done, it can lead to "false memories"--which were very much in the news awhile back. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome). And then, there is the more general problem of "confabulation". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation). So, as someone with a scientific background you will find it to be a good idea to hold onto your objectivity, whether it is your own or someone else's experiences that are being examined.

    However, having said that, I believe that there are "real" PL memories. The ones that Ian Stevenson researched are some of the most convincing in my opinion as they were spontaneous and not based on regression. (Plus, they were confirmed by investigation). However, I also place a lot of credence in those reported by professionals who use hypnotic techniques regularly for therapeutic purposes such as Weiss and Newton. However, even here I think it is a good idea to hold onto the general precept that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". For Weiss, this comes from the fact that he achieves healing results, something that cannot be accomplished by dealing with a patient's delusions as realities, but only by dealing with their real issues. I think that would also be true of Newton, but he presents much of his information in the context of explorations rather than therapeutic healings, so I tend to use a different standard there. This comes into play much more often in his second book and sometimes in the first when he is not dealing with therapeutic issues but, more-or-less, asking curiosity questions about a variety of subjects. But I think I am getting off subject.

    The point is, that you may never find out whether you can be regressed without seeing a professional rather than relying on a Youtube video. Plus, you are going to have more confidence in the results if you are dealing with someone first hand who has some deep background in this area.

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--My interest in reincarnation has more to do with my own personal issues and the general question of how things work, rather than survival. However, for you the messages you have received directly from your parents should be very comforting on the question of survival. Also, you may want to read some of the accounts on NDE websites. There are quite a few. This is one of my favorites: https://www.near-death.com/
     
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    Most of my memories came out of nowhere and were/are often caused by triggers
     
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    Hi CanSol,

    This is a variety of spontaneous memory, like the kids Ian Stevenson worked with. Consequently, a more innately trustworthy category IMO. This doesn't mean that memories achieved in other ways can't be just as trustworthy, but for me that is more of a judgment call.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
  14. Spirit Sword

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    While I would agree to much of this, painting with broad strokes is dangerous. In my case, I often refer to my past lives in the third person. This was not the case at first, but I consciously decided to start doing it because I was not separating myself enough from previous experiences. I have seen one or two others do this as well.
     
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    There are always exceptions. But that does not mean one should not generalize. Is it not better to acknowledge the exceptions for what they are? I think you get what type I am refering to, if I were to go by my appraisal of the posts of yours that I remember reading.

    It is however a funny practice. Hopefully not too off topic... But... Why would you separate yourself from yourself? What differs is essentially physical and external detail. The core of one's being remains the same. Or at least it is, once one truly remembers. To not embrace it seems odd.

    I did not mean what I said as an insult to MJR. He has not given me any reason to, and I apologize if it could be taken as such. Neither were you the first that came to mind, by any means. You do not strike me as a fanciful fluff bunny, someone who is off their meds, or too heavily into self-medication.
     
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    Hi Ritter,

    I agree with much of what you just said, but THERE ARE reasons to "separate yourself from yourself". It is hard, for example, for me to concentrate on this life and the work I have to do at the best of times without the constant drag and invasion of the thoughts, emotions, attitudes and pull of another time and place. Even without this, I have trouble battling against my tendency to distraction. Keeping the past in the third person is one way to help keep it at bay.

    However, I definitely do admit that the board is inundated from time to time with the "fanciful fluff bunny" type! However, one has to be patient with the young. ;)

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--As to the other two types--they are fellow sufferers in this vale of tears who are not, perhaps, coping as well as the rest of their peers. So, compassion is also in order. :cool:
     
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  17. Spirit Sword

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    As SeaAndSky said, I have a hard time living in the present on occasion. It has gotten better of late, but for a time I was constantly focused on my past lives, the emotions that had resurfaced and strong desires that came with them such as for vengeance or more self-defense than was required in a situation. It would get so bad that there were some days that I would not respond to my current name. Using the third-person in certain instances helps this to happen less.

    There is also one lifetime that I am rather ashamed of. It was quite a long time ago and I was quite different back then--the type of person I would swear to destroy for the good of others in more recent lives. After gaining a certain degree of familiarity with this lifetime, I realized that I am not in a place where I am ready to completely claim ownership over that man and his actions. I do not know how long it will be before I use first-person when referring to him again. It will take some work.

    I was quite relieved when I first began discovering past lives and seeing what was still identifiably me in other lifetimes. I started to get a more complete perspective on who I am as a person and how I fit into the world as a whole both now and over time. But time has changed me in some ways. Even with the lifetimes where my personality seems virtually unchanged, there are still small variations based on culture, upbringing, and experiences. These different aspects are all a part of me just as the core similarities are. I do not wish to alienate myself from them, but rather to keep them at a healthy distance so that I am not dealing with the past more than I have proven myself capable of handling.

    You are correct about the fanciful type, and your generalizations do seem to apply to many of them. While I do get frustrated by the negative stereotypes they help to ingrain, I am grateful for the opportunity they provide to practice patience and to learn the ways of gently convincing others to reevaluate their viewpoints.
     
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    Forgiveness is sometimes hard, but the results can be amazing. Forgiving oneself in the current lifetime is hard enough because your current ego is involved. The personality that 'once-was' served a purpose in your soul-growth I think. Given that belief, I'd think that forgiveness would be easier to achieve - try to think of it along those lines:)
     
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    Ken, Let's talk theory here
    What if the soul that 'once-was' hasn't served it's purpose before that life ended and is why some of us still are tied to a certain life?
    It's a thought that can't be easily dismissed because for instance the life which has the strongest influence on my life is WWII and I am the spitting image of myself from that time

    It's not my intent to hijack this thread but is something worth considering
     
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    It is unclear to me ConSol whether or not the lives we lead are to be separate or to be considered a continuation in more than a very basic sense. Since I have no haunting memories of a prior life-experience, I can not speak from experience, just supposition on my part. In my opinion, if it WAS a life that ended without closure, I see it as imperfect, but what could you possibly do NOW to complete it? My experiences are almost entirely from this lifetime but there have been some very important things that did not end as I wanted, and some without closure that I simply had to accept. For all you know, the personality that you were in WWII might have had a horrible existence had he lived longer.

    I have no idea if we truly control any aspect of our lives prior to experiencing them although I lean heavily toward the position that we plan the major happenings, and that we have 'exit-points' that we can take if we feel the need without screwing up our agreed upon help in another spirit's experiences. But, I guess that I think that we plan more than you do, so I should reconsider my position. Given my lack of prior-life memories, I have to respond mainly from my current-life experiences, which include the time-span of past-life memories of many here recall. My thoughts go to a past-love of mine of sixty-six years ago who wanted our marriage while I had yet to 'seek my fortune' kinda thing. We still share a love for one another even though we are different people than we were at that time of parting. She is of a different temperament and simply states "It wasn't meant to be" while I ponder the thoughts about what 'might have been'.

    This might tie into the thread topic if there is a reason for our inability to be regressed, to alter or not to alter the direction of our current paths.
     

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