Does earthbound spirits see you as your past life self?

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  1. Li-la

    Li-la Senior Member

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    Hi!

    I wonder if anyone has experienced something like this:

    I have met a ghost/spirit from the really old days and I learned that he was so pleased to meet me because he saw me as the way I think I looked like during the witch-era like hundreds and hundreds years ago.

    He saw me in that type of clothing, that was how he was drawn to me and saw me as a friend, but I was not a spirit like him that was earthbound, I was me.

    We had both been punished by the law and the religion back then.

    He believed that he was to be punished if he went into the light. He did not trust the warmth there and the love. Instead he described it as a fire to me. First when you get in from the cold you think it is nice and you warm your hands to the fire but then the fire takes over and you get burn. He communicated that he had had a priest that had decided he was to go to hell after death so he knew if he just got pass the warmth and the love then there was hell. (I had to stop myself from feeling rage against the priest who's soul I think should have looked him up and told him it was not true...)

    I showed him by sending an image of who I looked like today and what year it was because I don't think he got it, but at the same time as her I sort of did a typical "To curtsy" (it says on google translate) and a little bending down with my head at the same time. Back then it was a type of showing respect for a man and back then I don't think I viewed it as me being inferior to a man, maybe because I was so used to it, I don't know, I think I learned to do this from when I was a child in that life, when greeting people, not just men. I was a married woman, I could tell because of my hair and the head bonnet I had and he recognized me as a married woman so he was not flirting (and I am not sure he would have flirted other wise either, ha ha) but I could tell he was cautious that I was married.

    Of course I don't know if any of this is true, I'm just telling you of my experience and hope I don't get too much in trouble because of it.

    I told him that I did not get punished. They told me I was suppose to burn in hell too, but here I was, reborn and doing just fine. I told him that the priest was no God and he was wrong but he did not understand why God then put him in charge on Earth.

    I think we were so used to being ruled by fear and being physically and mentally punished back then that our belief system got like this too after we died, in his case he was so stuck but yet so kind, almost childish in his approach to me, in his happiness for us to meet.

    Are we really showing ourselves as our old self in the spirit world without even being aware of it?
    No wonder perhaps then that some of us experience paranormal activity if they think we are one of them?

    I just wonder if someone has had something like this happening to them or know something about it? I would love to learn more.

    From what I could tell I did not know this man in that past life.

    I don't know if all of this was strong imagination while I was under meditation or what it was, but again I would love to know other's experiences.

    Thanks :)

    /Li La
     
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  2. landsend

    landsend Senior Registered

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    I’ve experienced both.

    In out of body experiences and memories I have of being out of body visiting my past selves family and other events I appear a lot like my past self, height and all.

    When my brothers spirit visited me in the middle of the night / dream time he saw me as I was then, heavily pregnant as it were. He found that very amusing given that the last time we met I was a strapping Green Beret, and, you know, with different biological parts if I can put it that way.

    Not sure why that is or why this occurs. Maybe spirit sees what it wants to when it wants to.
     
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  3. fireflydancing

    fireflydancing just a fly in the sky Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I've experienced profound contact with a spirit/aspect that exactly knew me in my current situation. He was hiding his own identity out of fear of flat rejection by me. We talked with words, without words and in his own way he repaid me in this life for what went wrong in that other life. I had already forgiven him, so this 'gift' was not 'necessary' for the process but really appreciated.
    It was soul communication and confusion about physical appearance was non-existent.
     
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  4. SeaAndSky

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    Hi Li La,

    What strange conclusions this man came to! Light may come from a source of both light and heat, but total love does not come from a source of hate. If you have further contact you need to remind him of James 3:11: "Doth a fountain send forth from the same place sweet water and bitter?" If he follows a source of true love to its origin, he will not find the bitterness of hate, he will find a flowing abundance of love.

    However, looking at your central question, it certainly seems so. I remember the famous line from "Sixth Sense"--"They only see what they want to see". I can't agree with everything in this movie, but this little boy does say some things that appear to go along with things you have said--such as the fact that this ghost sees you as he wants to see you (or remembers you) and I also seem to recall you mentioning an occasion where two ghosts were not aware of each other (something else I believe was portrayed in the movie).

    Hmm. It makes me wonder how much research M. Night Shyamalan did for this movie.

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--I see no problem with the curtsy. You were merely being polite in accordance with the forms of the era he came from. One might bow or curtsy to a superior or an equal, but equals also acknowledged each other and showed respect by reciprocating. In any case, I see no problem in doing something that probably put him more at ease for communication purposes.
     
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    Hi & thank you all for your interesting replies :) I enjoy reading them very much and have learned from you
    Best Wishes
    Li La
     
  6. SeaAndSky

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    Hi Li La,

    I'm glad that I could help. You have reported lives that were very interesting to me, both in terms of the outer events you have experienced as well as the occult phenomena experienced.

    On the first point, both of the lifetimes you have concentrated on have overlapped either my current lifetime or a putative PL. So, I found them very interesting from that standpoint. Your PL in the post-WWII era takes me back to the way things were in my childhood and young adult years. It awakens many memories of what were--in most respects--"the good old days" for me. As you can tell, no place or era is ever without problems. Still, the idea that the present era is vastly better than what came before is mostly just the egotism of the age. Things are better in some respects, and worse in others. So it goes I suppose.

    On the second point, you are obviously a very gifted person in terms of occult matters. These experiences are fascinating, but certainly have a scary aspect as well. I'm not certain I would want them myself, but I admire your ability to deal with these things as they occur. I'm also interested in how you may choose to integrate this ability in your current lifetime? In many ways, you may have found out all you needed to know and achieved closure in terms of the two lifetimes that were the most problematic to you. So, I guess the question is where do you go from here?

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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  7. Li-la

    Li-la Senior Member

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    Hi SeaAndSky!

    Thank you so much for your kind reply, you helped me so much :)

    It stills feel unreal sometimes about me and ghosts connecting and a lot of times I wonder myself it this really happened, when I am like this family members as well as friends, reporting noises and seeing things is somewhat a validation. And not to mention being here on this forum with you guys! You been of such great help :)

    My young daughter has been my most concern. I believe she is sensitive, gifted and it makes her frighten although I have tried to calm that down. I have experienced that some spirits you feel around for a time before they show themselves, others just gives you a few seconds of notification and others just pop up in terms of images. I have realize I need to press the pause button because my daughter's fear and young age. I wait with anticipation on how things turn out for my daughter because I think she will be more secure with age, and maybe then I dare to develop myself a bit more if that is possible.

    My husband though, love him to death, is very much left brain and despite experiencing paranormal activities he is not the type to admit they were just that, even though I am the calm one when he hears "soldier's steps" around our home after we've gone to bed. He is looking for a real person although by now he has kind of given up on that and I am calm because I know by now that it is someone who is there to protect my daughter and maybe me too at night. I've asked for her to be protected and think I have been given the protection of a loyal soldier :) My daughter sleeps through the nights without experiencing "bunch of ghosts" coming to her at night and she has put down those earmuffs she would before wear inside.

    I've really tried to talk to my husband about reincarnation and the spirit world but he has strong built walls up and it is no use, his family is the same. It is only a subject for jokes. When that happens my daughter just gives me this look as if to say that they are childish and don't know better.

    Best Wishes
    Li La
     
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  8. SeaAndSky

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    Hi Li La,

    Aaaaah, marriage! A good marriage is one of the best things on the planet IMO, but it is always a matter of giving up some things for the sake of peace and harmony. In mine, I always hoped that at some point most would be able to come back in. Here I am almost 40 years later, and some have, some haven't, and some I've lost interest in. But overall, keeping the peace was worth it.

    As you probably have realized by now, people are often desperate to preserve their world view. Most have sought long and hard to build it and to build their life and perceptions upon it. What you are saying would turn his world view upside down. This not only shakes a person's confidence in everything built on that world view, but in themselves and their ability to understand and deal with the universe as it is--as opposed to how they have projected it to be. This is just a very scary thing for most people, though they would not admit that, even to themselves. So, your husband is very normal in this, and you are probably right not to push too hard. Actually, it may be better to avoid the subject except where necessary and just let time do its work.

    Plus, it sounds like you have your hands full at the moment with raising a child and all that goes with it. And, these things can wait. As time goes by, he will notice more and more things he can't account for. Especially since he is a man, he may not want to admit fallibility, but sooner or later I think you will find some grudging admissions coming out as he realizes that strict materialism doesn't account for everything. However, it may take some time.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    soulfreindly Senior Registered

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    Do you see yourself dressing as that person back then >.. ie is he picking up on your different style ? ,, One can be drawn to appearing as past life..
    I have a friend who could see another friend of mine as a civil confederate soldier.. ie he now has a moustache .. this a time before beards and moustaches were in style...
    I know of him being a soldier in the civil war from my own past life regression work ...
     

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