I don't want to reincarnate

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  1. KenJ

    KenJ Assistant Archivist and Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    To bring this back to the thread topic, I forgot to mention my thoughts about it (stop incarnating). I think that our current perspective is very limited and if we could understand,what I imagine is what we are doing, we would perhaps see that each lifetime is simply an attempt to refine our essence as we find necessary or more convenient (speedy perhaps). I think that wishing it would not repeat so that we either lose our separateness from the Source or do all of our learning/growing as spirits are the extremes where one ends our journey and the other perhaps extends it. To want no more incarnations seems to indicate some form of dissatisfaction with their current life which might really be the symptom of the reason for their being in the circumstances they find themselves in currently.
     
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    I'm still quite clear I won't be reincarnating again. With the topic having raised itself in here about how old the human race is - then that is another aspect to it. Some of us might be extremely old - and wondering if part of the reason we reincarnated this one last time is to see if the human race "does things differently" this time to Way Back (ie when the human race was as technologically developed/maybe a bit more so than it is now). It didn't work out last time and we collectively "blew it". So there is an element of curiosity as to whether the 2nd/3rd/whatever time this is that the human race is at a technologically advanced stage as to whether we will make different decisions or "blow it all" again. Personally - I'm reckoning we are about to "blow it" once again and haven't learnt anything last time round. I could even say that I feel like I have a sort of "knowledge" that I was due to be reborn in a century or two's time - when the world population is a lot smaller (due to our fault) and be some sort of environmental scientist trying to bring our oceans back to life. Whilst it's a shame to not lead such a constructive/helpful life as one like that would obviously be - I'm still sticking to my intention of never coming back again. If I have further "work" to do on myself - I believe I will still be able to do that "work" - it will probably have to be in a different way and/or at a slower rate of progress. However, I do believe it is possible. It is my feeling that many of us are bullied or manipulated or the like into coming back again when we have decided not to do so. However, one of the things I have learnt in this life is just how many ways other people do try and bully and manipulate people into doing what they want - so I feel pretty confident I will be able to resist any such pressure. By now I'm quite capable of turning round to someone who identifies as "my guide" or a "Higher Being" and go "I don't think that's very advanced behaviour on your part to try and push me the way you want - even if you honestly believe it's for my own good. Sorry - my 20th/21st century life taught me we are all equal and even the best of people make mistakes - and that could include you - and you are not entitled to decide what is best for me. So push off....."
     
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    Only way to not incarnate is to not go into the light and either follow your light or if thats not there ask for the exit, the entities known as the archons should grant you your wish.
     
  4. KenJ

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    I feel much the same way about how the evidence shows that an older and perhaps more advanced life-form existed here in the past and how we seem to be racing toward the same ending. I find that there are few in my area who talk about that old civilization, some who have never heard even about the Sumerians or Anunnaki, so that just reinforces my thoughts that our current perspective is too limiting to grasp the whole process/picture.
     
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    To be honest though you would have only heard of sumerians/anunnaki really if you have a interest in anicent history or history. Which i have myself hence i heard of them
     
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    What interests me the most goes back to older times than even that though there is still plenty to get my interest in that context.
     
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    I have no idea what is meant by archons - though I have spent around 50 years reading about all this sort of thing. As for the idea of basically not being able to refuse to come back here again - one thing I've learnt from this lifetime is how to be bl**dy-minded or go on strike. Simple enough - reject this life (because the body is going to be too unhealthy), reject that life (because the body is going to be too ugly), reject another life (because the birth family wouldn't be good enough), reject another life (because of the society the birth family lives in not being good enough) and carry right on rejecting/rejecting/rejecting until anyone/anything trying to exert pressure for rebirth got fed-up to the back teeth with seeing every potential life they proposed being rejected as "not good enough". Simples....just take the view that the only life that would be Good Enough would be one where the person "never suffered a day's illness", was at least reasonable-looking, had a loving family and the Society would be a peaceful, prosperous, unpolluted one that would never discriminate against oneself in any way.
     
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    Theres quite a lot of resources on the Archons, some of it crazy. This one is a good one

     
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    THAT would be good for me :)

    Best wishes,

    Angie
     
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    I found the guy difficult to listen to, as he seemes long winded to me. Thus, I only watched maybe half. Sorry, and no offence to you. Different strokes for different folks.
    I'm not into reptilians but some other things David Icke says rings true to me about the dreaded archons, djinn, demons or whatever anyone refers to them as.

    Best wishes,

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    Reptilians, flat earth etc imo is nonsense.
     
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    Reptilian shapeshilfters is Lol to me also. I have no idea as to the shape of Earth but we can be certain it is far larger than we are told. Thus no obvious curvature where one should be clearly apparent. Also, we know that 'photograph of Earth from the Moon' is fake, as the shape of Earth has been explained as a perfect globe, a slight oblong, pear shaped and quite recently as almost a figure 8. Yet we are still shown the perfect globe of 'the Moon shot' and various other shots 'from space'. Whatever shape or if flat, we are absolutely lied to time and again.

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    The Earth is regularly viewed and photographed and filmed from the folks up on the ISS.



    The Earth is a globe. Why is this even an argument? It can be proven by reason, logic and measurement alone. That's something that was concluded before space travel, and before it had been photographed.
     
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    Eratosthenes knew the Earth was a sphere and measured its circumference in about 240 BC. It's hardly breaking news.
     
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    So, Why do space agency scientists keep changing their minds as to its shape? Because they do, you know, as I already said.

    I remember when I was a little girl and my father insisted I watch the 'Moon landing' with him, as he thought it would be educational and everyone at school would be talking about it. To be honest, it went over my head and I found it boring and would far rather have been outside playing with friends but it seemed their parents were also making them watch it because none were out. None playing hopscotch, cycling, skipping etc. So I settled on the sofa next to my father and noticed the changing expressions on his face more than I noticed the TV. At first he was leaning forward, transfixed in quiet anticipation and barely controlled excitement as he wondered if they would actually be able to land. Then his expression changed to puzzlement and it looked to me as if they were about to touch down. When they did, his face had changed to looking put out, cross and disbelieving. He said nothing except "They're meant to have landed". At the end of the broadcast he rose and went to turn off the telly (no remotes at that time), and then stood upright and said "I wonder if they really went there?". I asked why they would pretend, and he quite crossly and with disgust replied "Money!" then strode out the room. After that the only time he spoke of it was when he ocassionaly said "They are meant to have gone to the moon but they can't cure cancer?" or "solve poverty?", "stop wars", etc. Always, the words 'meant to have', never that they did.
    Now, my father was in his latter 40's at that time, not a gullible younger man. He had been in the RAF and Operation Foxley, SOE during WWII and done government work for two or three years after the war, and still had contact with powerful people behind the scenes when I was young (I suspect he still sometimes even if rarely done government work, although I believe his words that he never killed anyone as he wanted to kill Hitler only - no one else). He and other family members had excellent bona fides. So he wasn't stupid. Far from it. He knew about heights, shadows, flying etc.

    Just as oddly, not one of my playmates around our streets spoke of it nor any of my playmates at school except for one boy in the playground, but no one would talk about it with him (a very British thing to ignore a question or comment and change the subject rather than to disagree and maybe argue). More striking still was that the only time it came up in class was when a boy (same one as in the playground) raised his hand and asked the Teacher when we were going to cover it. The Teacher looked stunned for a moment, then looked around the class as she asked "Who believes we went to the Moon?". Three or four hands raised up, and mine went up and down a couple of times (unsure). The Teacher furrowed her usually uncreased brow and said "We will cover it sometime". We never did, and not in my later three schools either. My relatives never spoke of it, at least not in my hearing, and I never heard any of their visitors, friends or neighbours mention it either.

    MSM here was less 'owned' then, and it seemed to be forgotten quite quickly - as if it never happened. A stark contrast to the time just preceeding the supposed landing when most people, particularly adults and boys, were buzzing and talking about it with great excitement.

    I expect they all saw some things on the original broadcast that made it clear it wasn't real, and no doubt at least some of that footage has since been changed but still there are a lot of videos online that show it was fake, and how it was done.

    Also, there are videos which show the true shapes of planets and stars. There are none that are solid that are globes, even though they appear to be so from a not powerful telescope. So why should Earth be a globe when no others are?

    Myself, I do not believe we have been beyond the asteroid belt, and this is such a huge subject with so many proofs that is so that it would be too much to go into it here. People who are genuinley willing to challenge their paradigm can look it up anyway. As to anyone who isn't willing, then we wouldn't even be comparing the same level of knowledge so there is no point discussing further. Still, they could ask themselves why the NASA company would want to employ CGI expert Cameron. Also what the actual word Nasa means in Hebrew and ancient Egyptian.

    Best wishes,

    Angie
     
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    Id like to know why with Antarctica why we arent allowed to set foot on it. You will get shot at on site. There was that treaty signed by every country to not allow anyone there other than on official business. This is not conspiracy this is fact. Id like to know why
     
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    It looks pretty uniformly round in these pictures.
    I was once in a class where a simulator or some sort was present and we tried to control the ship? or whatever it was. It became quite apparent that the bigger something is the slower it reacts, but any changes we made created unanticipated results. Although that is not in someways relevant, is an example of actions that are surprisingly different than expected. The technotic plate that India is on continues to push into the Asian plate through momentom (as well as other forces), and the areas that were covered by the ice in the last ice-age are still rising all these many years later. It is hard for me to realize that I'm moving at a thousand mph around the earth axis, sixty-eight thousand mph around the sun, and four hundred and forty-eight thousand mph around the axis of the universe. In total it is estimated to be "The earth is moving with respect to the cosmic microwave background radiation at a speed of 390 kilometers per second." (872,405 mph, 242.335 miles per second), enough to blow your hat off I would think!
     
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    Makes one wonder, doesn't it? E.G. admiral Byrd.

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    Staggering, until we realise that we aren't doing the measurements and maths for ourselves. We are taught to take the words of 'experts' for it and when education for the masses improved for a very few decades, those with mathematical type high IQ's did do their own calculations and found numerous contradictions, anamolies and impossibilities and consequently talked and wrote about their own findings and thus people began asking questions. Then the good free thinking education for all was dumbed down again and instead of that we are back to learning ONLY by rote (great for the ABC and X tables at infant stage), and to not be too inquisitive and to absolutely not question the status quo on 'facts established by experts'. Hmm.

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