Multiple simultaneous past lives?

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  1. Li-la

    Li-la Senior Member

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    Hi!

    Anyone here that has encounter either during meditation or in some other way the possible discovery of having a multiple simultaneous past life?

    I am trying to do my own little research on it to try to find out if I have encounter a such myself.

    I have had now for long time the knowing of a past life as Laura who died in the 1920's and then I have Anna who was born in the 1930's and died in the 1970's (and then of course the current me born in the 1970's).

    Right somewhere in the middle of Laura's and Anna's life time I have memories from yet another female that I am so far just gonna call R who was a rather young female in the 1920's-40's. So far I have R's memories but they are not as "strong" (or how I now should put it) as Laura's and Anna's.

    I have asked for spirit advice on how to relate to this R-woman, and received the answer (that I don't know if I can trust or not if it from my subconscious or from an actual spirit guide) that was "she is you"(Keep it simple, right?o_O)

    I have thought if R is a spirit that needs help in some way. I have experienced having images or very, very short "films" of other people, spirits, but nothing like this, and have by prayer (or intervention or what now to call it by) tried to release them from their pain and make them see the light and go there. Then again no one can say if this is just imagination all together and there are days I truly wonder did that really happen. In any way it can't hurt, right? (I swear, would my husband hear me talk like this he would divorce me, ha ha)

    R is almost frightening alike both Laura and Anna as for the things she lives for. She feels like she is the same as them and the same as I.

    I would love to hear other people's experiences as this is totally new to me :)

    Thank you for taking the time to read this

    Best Wishes

    Li La
     
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  2. Li-la

    Li-la Senior Member

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    Hi!
    Me again about this. I have tried to train my thoughts to not think of time as linear, existing but as they say that everything happens simultaneously. Before I have thoughts about karma and in shape of karma to see what lessons had been taught and what lessons had been not. I've read somewhere about simultaneous past lives effecting one another as everything is happening now, everything at the same "time".
    I can see certain things that are alike, but others where one has revenge where one was victim in another past life.
    If I should make a careful comparison: I have experienced during meditation a past life as Laura. She gave birth premature and her baby daughter died. In my own life I began for no reason have premature labor pain and was hospitalized. I was medicated, told to lie still. They planned if things progressed to give the baby something so the lungs would develop faster and have an C-section in another hospital where they specialized on this. Thankfully, it stopped and I would later give birth in time to a baby daughter. One can think, well, this is nothing but when one start to see one thing after another I have to wonder. In a lot of my past lives it seems that in order for me to get my second family, that is in my cases to have a husband and child, children, my first family goes away. This give me "little" to hold on to. My husband and his family and his friends become my dependent world before any child comes in my world too. For some reason I can't have both.
    I'm not sure what I wish to say with all of this, it is only something that has started to dawn on me and puzzle me because I was before so use to seeing past lives in one time order and karma wise. Not lined up next to each other and causing "waves" between them.
    Just like 10 minutes ago I started to wonder about something I just wrote about in another post. I was describing an incident at home when we heard strong noises of someone throwing porcelain and destroying things, when in reality nothing was broken or changed in the room where the noise came from. In a meditation I later experienced being Laura again, who began to trash an area of a room due to her rage and grief over her dead son. Now this make no sense if time is linear perhaps between the past lives, but if they are intertwined, and waves happen between them, then maybe, just maybe, it is not so impossible for something that was very emotionally powerful in one past life managed to make a fragment of wave into my reality in terms of the violent paranormal sounds.

    Have anyone any own experience or thoughts about this from your own past lives, please share?

    Best Wishes
    Li La
     
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  3. Jaimie

    Jaimie Senior Member

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    I'm just thinking that maybe it is about "balance"? If everything happens at once. If I am seen as "ugly" in one past life and "beautiful" in another, if I am loosing a baby in one, and winning a baby in another and so on...then I am thinking if we have several destinies - and I pick one - then I wonder if I can change the past lives destiny in some way just by my choice, but then again they have already happened, yet not...? (I feel a headache coming lol, this is too much for my human brain...)

    /Jaimie
     
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  4. Jack E

    Jack E Senior Member

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    Hi! Don't feel weird for asking about this, there are really no dumb questions when it comes to a topic as little-understood as reincarnation. However, there are definitely zero known cases on record of a subject remembering two previous lives that appeared to be ongoing at the same time. This is certainly no surprise, as it is pretty impossible to fathom how that would even happen. No one's ever had two PL's in which the "second" one (from their perspective) occurred in an earlier time period than the first either. In all known cases involving two PLs, they have followed cleanly in succession of each other, and one of them is almost always much more strongly remembered. Probably the closest thing to what you're asking would be cases where the previous personality died after the child was born, which are known to exist, albeit are exponentially rarer than the typical PLM case. However, in all of these cases, the child also doesn't exhibit the purported PLM's until after the previous personality has died, and often come about when the child seems to have died themselves, and then "reanimates" with a different personality. Therefore, these very few cases of this type are often explained as cases of possession rather than reincarnation. They also are not known to occur at all outside of South Asia. There are no known cases, nor should there be, of a child displaying the personality of a still living person. The absence of potentially confounding cases like this really suggests that the afterlife and reincarnation process are pretty clear-cut, and conform to all of our standing notions of time and causality. They follow the rules they should.
     
  5. Brad

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    Hi Li La, many people who had NDEs, in their descriptions of the other side, state that the spirit world is much more real than it ever felt here, they felt that they were "home". Many come to understand that the physical universe is created from energy and vibration as a learning tool and that every possible outcome of every decision of our lives is being played out at once, (this is not coming from a bunch of new age hippies). Experiments in quantum physics have supported the idea that consciousness can alter "reality", so if our reality, this reality, is created by "GOD", or the highest consciousness, who are we to say what is and is not possible? It has been stated by many people with NDEs and at least one child PL case that I read on this forum confirms it, that you can jump into any life experience you want -past, present, or future and they can over-lap. Again, this reality is not the "real world" it is a learning tool.
     
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  6. landsend

    landsend Senior Registered

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    Jack. E,

    I really struggle with the concept of simultanous past lives, too, for similar reasons that you posted here. Have you come across this case before? http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page...icide-helmut-kohler-ruprecht-schultz&hl=en_US

    It was one of the strongest cases for simultaneous past lives I found, where the reincarnation would have occurred whilst the baby was already born. It does not appear to be a case of possession. It is also a Western case.
     
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    I will first quote briefly from the article:
    One of the problems with this case is that it hinges on an unknown. That is, at what point does the soul (for want of a better word) enter into a child?

    Some previous research has indicated that the soul may enter at any time within a range from conception to shortly after birth. The soul may also come and go during this time, and may also be present prior to or during conception.

    These are simply ideas which have been discussed elsewhere, I don't claim them as factual. Nor do I consider it any more factual to presume that the soul must be present from conception. We simply don't know for sure.

    My point is, this case, even if valid, need not support simultaneous incarnation, it could instead be an example of variable timing of entry of the soul.
     
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    There and back again Senior Member

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    Time is only an illusion and people have been saying it for generations but people don't want to face the music on that topic.
     
  9. Li-la

    Li-la Senior Member

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    Wow, this thread has come alive! :) Thank you so much, I read all your posts with a humble and intrigued mind :)
     
  10. Jack E

    Jack E Senior Member

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    I've read that case and other anomalous date instances similar to it (Jasbir Singh, etc). It logistically couldn't possibly be simultaneous. The only way it could be simple late entry is if the baby was stillborn and then came to life one day like Frosty the Snowman, and I can't fathom that being the case. Another key fact about the case is that the memories didn't surface until he was 51, so we have absolutely zero reason to suspect he was born with them at all, as in the typical case. Therefore, I wouldn't even consider possession to be the most likely factor here, in the sense of one soul simply kicking the other out. I would attribute this case to some indirect postnatal influence or planting of the memories by the discarnate personality.
     
  11. Li-la

    Li-la Senior Member

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    I've been thinking if it could possibly be like this (Warning! This will not come off as a very intellectual way of explaining my theory):

    My Soul is a cake. A round cake. Up in the heavenly dimension somewhere. There is a slice in this cake - that slice is my spirit. This spirit has lived as Anna and as Laura and now as my current self (although there is no real time and all these lives are happening at once). Next to my slice is another slice. This is the R-woman's slice. We are alike, because we have the same soul. She is living one of her lives simultaneously/right in the middle of the same linear time as my two past lives Anna and Laura begin and ends. My Soul :D, perhaps, at one point decides that I am going to experience the R-woman's memories, for some reason, and so they come, but they are weaker. It feels like I am her, but her memories come off as weaker because we are not the same slice.

    Could this be right? :confused:

    Best Wishes

    Li La
     
  12. Brad

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    I think that is actually pretty accurate, Li La, I believe it's true that our souls do not necessarily utilize all of their energy during an experience here.
     
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  13. landsend

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    I don’t think you can dismiss the case as readily as that, and if you look at the case he did exhibit some childhood behaviours that can not be explained away.

    I think this actually might be more a case of ‘When does the soul enter the new body, and how attached are we to our new/old bodies?’
     
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    It’s also of my opinion and experience that memories can surface at any age and in my case a lot of my memories feel like they are being re-remembered from when I was a young child (de ja vu and childhood memories surfaced with my past life memories).
     
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