Discussion in 'Past Life Memories' started by KenJ, Mar 21, 2018.
I could not find a thread for this so I thought I'd start one. Here is a story I saw today.
I wish my own PL experiences were positive to me. Although I've never had a regression. I wouldn't even know where to go for one and I'm not sure I want more memories.
Did you read the user comments? Cuckoo, delusional and stuff. That's the barrage of attitudes that anyone who claims a past life seems to face. Is there any hope for us? What's the point in being burdened with PL memories? Just like one of her past lives I feel like a hermit since I remembered reincarnation. Marginalised.
There are some subjects that I enjoy reading those comments, but not about this subject as I know what to expect unfortunately.
I don't know any universal truths about that, but considering how it has changed your path it would seem obvious. It is just going to take a bit of getting use to what you have learned I guess. I truly am sorry that it has been such a burden for you. I suppose it is difficult to both "own" a past life and yet realize it isn't really the current "you" - that it was merely a moment in your evolution, like a passing thought that you have now rejected.
I always have a hard time reading media accounts of past lives
It usually involves "claims he/she was....." "believes to be...."
Sure the kid decides someday to make up stories and have nightmares of, lets say, getting shut down or blown up
So I always start reading with scepticism and avoid the comments section all together
For me, my PLs often feel like a burden as well, I remember most of my memories since childhood but sometimes I wonder and feel guilty that I stopped remembering the names of all of my buddies
In order for people to be more acceptable towards reincarnation and PL memories, besides our merry little inside crowd, the media needs to get a different approach to reporting it 9/10 times and not allow comments to it, just my 2ct
As I have made clear at one time or another, I know what you mean about PL memories. Nonetheless, I'm beginning to feel like I've come to the end of my break time and will start delving again. One thing is that buried memories of bad stuff (as exemplified in the story) always seem to lead to bad stuff, whether they are bad PL memories or bad "this life" memories. It is hard to deal with them, but until we can assimilate and deal with them we can't get rid of the problems they cause and move on.
However, that is still an "I wanna have an untroubled earth life" type of attitude. The other side of it is that PL memories deconstruct that way of looking at things. They are a peek backstage and behind the curtain--there is something much bigger going on than the "Play" we are involved in. This includes the fact that multiple lifetimes as different people means that you and I are something beyond any of these temporary identities, just like an actor playing multiple roles in the same play is obviously something beyond the roles he/she plays. It kinda lays things bare.
I don't know where we go with that realization. I guess that depends on whether we're ready to go on to something more yet (or as I put it in the post I just made under "dreams"--whether we're tired of playing with the same old toys in the same old sandbox). I'm not sure yet myself, but I believe the time will definitely come.
The comments with the most up votes are the ones saying if it works for her, to let it be. As a skeptic myself I was pleasantly surprised by that.
That lifelong sadness from birth is certainly familiar though.
Yes Ken, except it wasn't so much a passing thought that I rejected as it was an entire worldview and way of thinking I have to unshackle myself from. I'm finding it impossible to be honest.
Yeah CanSol. I didn't just decide to believe in my past lives. I saw it with my own eyes played out in my sight. Thats how my pl memories occur. If I had my way I'd forget they ever existed. As much as I'm trying to change I find those who say 'claims, believes to be etc' in regards to my experiences with reincarnation to be an offense. I keep tripping up on not fighting them though.
Hi S&S. My PL memories certainly deconstructed notions of heroism for me. It showed me that heroes are only seen as heroes because they have something to learn from it. That's why we are all equal in spiritual terms. Heroes have to be no cleaner than the villians they pursue. They are still brutal and ruthless, even if they weild their power over others wisely.
Reincarnation showed me that even those people build up to rarified heights are just souls working through their karma. One positive to come out of PL knowledge is that I'm a lot less judgemental than I used to be.
I'm learning more and more that I spent a decent amount of time as/around people history has deemed to be important. And one of the best things about it is seeing them as fallible human beings. They make mistakes. And they don't spend all day doing "important" things either; sometimes they just take the afternoon to enjoy a nice view or something. Fame is just a label and it often doesn't denote any other differences between people other than being at the right place at the right time.
Hi Spirit Sword. That's the major difference between history, dramatic reconstructions and hagiographies and my PL memories. Not every moment is dramatic and important, I mostly just remember people being people the same as they always were, even with the weight of conflict on them people are just people expressing and interacting as people do. The most revealing thing to me about PL memories is that the past was just normal, people living day to day just like nowadays. The thinking, fashions, technological developments and beliefs etc were different but people themselves haven't really changed, they just got used to different standards of living and different reasons to fight than modern man is used to. That's what my PL memories showed me, that the past was usually so normal.
Jim78, I guess we could be talking for a long while here, knowing each other's stories as we do (at least a little), but somehow I just feel to comment on this one. Who cares about what others say? I've learned those of us who are different, whatever the reason (here we're talking about reincarnation but it can be anything), are bound to be attacked by those who unknowingly just want to judge others or have a bit of fun at their expense. I used to feel like you at the beginning (back in 2011-12 when I started to remember), I couldn't even talk of my experiences in supposedly open-minded groups like those dealing with NDEs and other types of spiritual experiences. I was quickly mocked and nobody wanted to know more, they were comfortable just believing in or even denying reincarnation, only hoping death was not the end. With time I've realized what others think doesn't matter. This is an individual path that only belongs to each of us. It's often tough, it's incredibly lonesome, I can only open up in my own sites, not even here even when there are some people who do understand. But I've also met a number of great souls along the path, and for that I'm grateful. We can find comfort in people who have gone through similar journeys. They helped me when I needed it, the same way I now help others. I think that's enough. Let the rest of people watch and laugh at us, they don't know what they're missing, for good or for bad.
Is there any hope for us? Of course there is. We don't need to be "accepted" by others, we don't need reincarnation to be worldwide considered a reality so that we can talk of our past lives naturally. We have each other, we can support one another in places like this. Our communities are small but strong. I believe there have always been people with past life memories in the past, I think there will always be, and probably we will never be in a major proportion in society. At the beginning I used to hope we would grow in future generations as people reached higher levels of spiritual evolution. Now I'm not so certain recalling past lives is linked to spiritual evolution, I tend to think it's just a physiological process, something we all need to do now and then to process old emotions.
So, what's the point in being burdened with past life memories? Well, for me it's a gift, not a curse, even with all its toughness. And yes, there've been instances when I also felt like you, isolated and misunderstood, but I feel so fortunate each time I can recall a past life event that answers any of my current thoughts or feelings. I feel so fortunate I know exactly where I come from, why I feel so depressed in certain anniversaries, why I miss certain things so much. When I see other people living their lives so "unconsciously", as if this is their first time on Earth, I feel so terribly old beside them, but at the same time I feel they lack so many things... a sort of "profoundness", a meaning behind their lives.
I feel quite identified with the woman in the article, as my own journey also started due to depression issues, but what she tells is nothing compared to all the things I've remembered. Has it been a burden? It is sometimes, at least in my case, when you're deep in past life mood and you just can't seem to shake it off, but once you're done with that stage, a greater burden is lifted. My depression wasn't letting me live. Now I do live, and better or worse, I try to carry on doing what I like with more hopes for the future and not thinking about suicide. Life is hard, we all know that, but it's also so awesome to be here and be able to have a long-term vision that allows you to see centuries back and sometimes even in-between lives, don't you agree?
I liked your last post:
Don't you think only for this it is worth remembering past lives?
Woolger and Bowman both emphasize that the HEALING is the most important part of past life work. Not the proof of who you were. It's a plus but not necessary. If you're still having bad feelings and experiences I would suggest - keep going ~ with an expert. You haven't remembered all of it or what you need to to heal.
The same with me: I never discuss reincarnation or spirituality with random people. There is no point in losing my energy in this field. I will never defend myself and I have absolutely no interest in convincing anybody.
I don't think that people with no interest in reincarnation or spirituality are lesser souls. Their amnesia is just stronger than mine, that's it. I always assume there must be some good reason why they don't remember anything. It's probably not in their soul's interest for this moment.
On the other hand: a lot of people who joke around are in fact sensitive themselves. They only joke because it is their way of filtering their surroundings. Making (bad) jokes is just their way of 'testing' people, like a defense mechanism. Sometimes it is so obvious. And when you take a short-cut and ask them their real opinions, you could be very surprised. It's the fear of the unknown for them but beneath their surface of bad jokes, stupid comments or hollow phrases, there might be real interest and even a lot of suppressed experiences.
Heh. I often "jokingly" reference reincarnation in whatever ways are socially acceptable. "We get along so well; I must have met you in a past life! Hahaha...." It's a good way to get a sense of the other person's reaction, and gives them a chance to join a gradually more serious conversation without having to initiate the topic themselves.
I was in class today all happy and talkative but then my teacher mentioned world war 2 very lightly and I was sad and quiet.
I actually joked myself into believing in reincarnation. After enough different instances of "wouldn't it be funny if...", I was no longer able to see a different way of putting those pieces together without including past life experiences.
I have a very dark sense of humour, comes with the things I've been through as a kid in this life and seeing death and destruction overseas but reincarnation isn't something I make jokes about, other than the very ocaissional sarcastic comments
Also keep in mind that there are completely new souls in each lifetime, they still have to learn, screw up etc, they're literally just babys
That's also why some behave like teens at much later times for example while others seem wise beyond their years and can feel old and out of place (I've read and heard that quite a few times and I'm definately in the latter group)
CanSol, I assure you I never made a mockery of the concept or the real feelings and experiences people have. I don't think that anyone in this group would do such a thing. Merely, I, and likely others, make sarcastic comments or light-heartedly say "we must have met in a past life" or "how did you know that unless you were there in a past life?" For those uninitiated in the ways of reincarnation, it's just a conversational piece that has little weight, often earning a response of a smile or slightly uncomfortable laugh. But every now and then, the laughter is followed by a "hey, wait a minute..." Sometimes, there is no connection there, but it still will get someone to think. And sometimes it's a good way to find someone else who is open to the concept of reincarnation.
Never suggested you did, think none of us that are even remotely aware of it do, those that are oblivious make the jokes like they do about everything else that they don't understand
I too make those off handed remarks "in another life maybe" or "been there, done that, still working on perfecting it" (whatever 'it' refers too) and sometimes a comment like what you mentioned opens a door of some kind
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