Past Life Relapse . . . .

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  1. SundayAtDuskReturns

    SundayAtDuskReturns New Member

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    Since I come and go in this forum, plus missed years of it, I don’t know if this topic has come up as a thread. So, I thought I’d start one. Have you gotten past a bad past life, where you no longer have fears or bad dreams associated with it, only to relapse one day?

    That happened to me this week. I believe, during my last life time, I had a horrid past life in Nazi Europe, and for years and years had nightmares about it, plus many current life fears due to it. Time moved on, however, and the nightmares stopped and the fears were resolved. I had moved on. Recently, however, two things have made me “relapse”, although fortunately the nightmares have not returned.

    One, the Washington Post had an article suggesting the United States could lose a war against China and Russia. Now, if it wasn’t for the current administration, I would have laughed at the idea of that. But, seeing who might be the president during such a war; as well as possibly being the person responsible for the war; the idea of losing a war, as well as being taken over by the communists, did create some concerns in my mind. (And no, this is not an attempt to have any type of political discussion about the current administration.)

    Two, I saw the 1993 movie Candles In The Dark this weekend. It was not about Europe and the Nazis, but about Estonia and the communists. Since the movie was made for the Family Channel, there was no graphic violence, except for one event where a priest was beaten and possibly tortured. There was only one scream in the movie from him, and he was still standing after it was over. He was facing an outside wall where you could not see his injuries, but you could hear in his voice his pain, as he spoke to the young protagonist in the movie.

    That incident; as well as seeing the Estonians standing in long lines for food, getting in fights with the soldiers, and being constantly watched; made me wish I had never seen the movie, even though it ended well for the Estonians. (Except for the poor priest, of course.) I found myself today, once again, not able to read a newspaper article about a Holocaust survivor, swearing I’ll never set foot in Europe in this lifetime, and thinking if we have war and are defeated, I am out of this lifetime. I thought I had gotten totally over all that, but obviously not. Oh well, at least I have no nasty thoughts and fears about Germany due to Angela Merkel.


    Anyone else with past life relapse stories?
     
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  2. BenjaminFR

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    Hello!

    Thank you for taking the time to write here. I can give you an outlook based on my experience, in the way that I also experienced it as some kind of cycle.

    I had horrible nightmares when growing up, it calmed a bit then came back when I was 13, then stopped around 16 and started again when I was 24, uninterrupted until I uncovered my hidden past memories.

    So if I understood your main point, I guess you could say there was some kind of relapse, as some of the leftover trauma wasn't fully healed and came back when I was either ready, or when these memories were triggered.

    I hope that you will find reassurance in knowing that you are not alone in experiencing these cycles, if I may say. How did you deal with your past life memories and emotions when they showed up before?

    Have a beautiful day!
     
  3. AlexD

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    I see your point, I have died under the communists twice, so I know what it means.

    The best we can do is to live in the now without being poisoned by speculations about a future worst case scenario.

    I can say I am past my bad memories under the communists. I am still allergic to propaganda to this day, but overall I am no longer interested in politics.

    I wouldn't watch a movie about communist Romania anyway. I have a few, watched a few, left a few others be.
    I'd suggest you to avoid triggers as well.
     
  4. Thyme

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    Hi

    Thank you so much for sharing your memories here. A long time ago I had horrible nightmares and unpleasant memories. When I traveled to London, all these nightmares increased and I felt persecuted, anxious, depressed, and for some reason, I thought the cops wanted to arrest me. That sense of emotion and sudden mockery of the cops, my anxiety and my nightmares were memories of a past life where I was an accomplice to a serial killer. I drew my paintings with macabre themes and despite living in France, I looked for a way to know the man who was committing those murders. Imagine having a past life where you admired and met a serial killer. He (the person I was in my past life) was so obsessed. Even... I think he had a slight crush. He liked women, but... I feel like he was confused and he never told anyone about that attraction.

    That affected me in my current life, because I have memories of situations where I blindly supported the killer. I suffer from anxiety and feel persecuted, but at the same time when I see blood, knives, or gore movies, I don't feel anything. It's like I don't have any sensitivity to that, maybe because I saw a lot of things and it doesn't affect me anymore. Knives don't scare me, but I can't use them, I think I'll do something "bad".

    On the other hand, I have different kinds of fears, all kinds of phobias and some vices. I don't blame my past lives for my addictions because I think everyone should take care of that. However, it's true that fears, relapses, and momentary depressions can be connected to past lives.
     
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    As strange as it may sound, I miss war. I hate it in some ways, so it is something I feel a bit guilty about. But I am just not very well at home in the status quo. This modern world is not my world and I have a serious dislike for everything that defines civilian life in this age. I have spent my entire life, for as long as I remember, wishing I could relive the brief glory of the Confederacy or Germany, the Reconquista, the wars of Scottish independence, the Napoleonic era or when the Goths sacked Rome. Or just plain long ago. Anything but this. If the fighting ever breaks out this time, as I expect it to, I will heave a sigh of relief and enter it gladly. I don't like politics much. Liars in suits and electoral cattle. If the world returned to warring kingdoms, I would feel much more at home. Tragedy and death, for sure. But also camaraderie, glory and the complete break with the silent creeping death of peace and debt, that slowly strangles every manly virtue.

    My dreams are very often of war, and they are not nightmares. I am sad to wake up from them. Even my dreams of frigid tanks, assault guns and hanomags on the eastern front. They are mixed feelings, but at the end of the day, I miss it all.

    I like home life. That part is great. but I absolutely hate the current mental(ly ill) paradigm, the weakness of modern people, the decadence, the lack of faith, the unsoundness, the dissolution of family, the eternal rat race, consumerism, environmental destruction, the insane debt slavery and such. It crushes a man. I am not in much debt, but I hate the ugliness and dishonor of this existence. I hate how my people suffer this with slumped shoulders and shame. This bad peace. A just war is far better than a bad peace. I can't and won't start a war just for the hell of it, on my own. But when it does start, I am going to be damned eager for it. Even if I catch the first bullet, it is better than this world, as it is.
     
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    That war scenario between the States vs Russia and China is an old one that surfaced decades ago of all places the church which is something to think about but just be mindful to not let it get to you. Such triggers and emotional baggage is often the first sign of past life trauma.
     
  7. Spirit Sword

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    I wonder if there is ever a permanent way to undo past life damage?

    I uncovered some PL trauma a ways back and it became a prominent concern in my current life. In that past life, my brother had sent assassins after me repeatedly. I constantly had to look over my shoulder and keep friends nearby to guard me. After regaining these memories, I began developing an anxiety over it. Each time I went out, I had to be armed, even if it was only a pocket knife. Part of me was so sure that, one of these days, someone would come for me and I had to be ready for them when they did. I even started sleeping with a sword beside my bed. I rarely felt peace.

    Eventually, I worked through it. I no longer had to be overly-vigilant while out in public, no longer required a weapon for a comfort object. For the first time, I could look even look at a portrait of my past foe without needing to punch something. I daresay I was cured. Until a several-day family reunion some months later had me bunking in the same room as my current brother (who I am now almost positive was the same soul). I barely slept, and not until I was certain he himself was asleep. My heart would race and a voice in the back of my head screamed, "You can't sleep! He's going to kill you!" again and again. We have seen each other since with less of a negative reaction, but I think he will always pose the threat of becoming a past life stimulus.
     
  8. Ritter

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    Just because it is the current norm to be disarmed, leaving home without a weapon is a fundamentally bad idea. Perhaps more so than if most were armed. It will work out well 999 times out of a 1000. Those odds are getting worse. But that one time that it won't go well means it was worth lugging around. Not to mention the increased ability to help others. Men carry weapons. Slaves are disarmed. Local legalities or not. One should at the very least carry a knife and know very well how to use it.

    I am sorry about your brother. I have had a hell of a fight with mine, but no assassins.
     
  9. SeaAndSky

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    Hi Ritter,

    Your observation is certainly true, historically speaking. However, there have often been unobtrusive substitutes for knife and sword. The poor couldn't afford anything fancy, but usually carried a staff, which they learned to use and most males could use very effectively. The wealthy knew how to fence, and men cultivated the cane as a ready substitute (without which a gentleman was not fully dressed) when it was no longer stylish to wear a sword (which was mostly after modern police forces began coming into vogue).

    The modern tendency to delegate the duty to remain armed and vigilant to a police force is itself a very recent trend, as the development of police forces is itself a recent historic development which didn't really take off until the 1800s. So now we have an ongoing battle between those who see an armed public as a risk, and those who realize that even a good police force cannot be everywhere. This is, however, going in the direction of "politics", one of the "third rails" on this board, so I am going to turn it back in the direction it was going with the following observation: We all "relapse" when triggered by the appropriate circumstances. (Apologies for using the term "triggered"--I couldn't think of a better one).

    I don't think there is anything wrong with this as long as the "relapse" (reaction) is appropriate in terms of the current circumstances. I.e., I haven't read of anyone reporting a "relapse" so far that didn't have good grounds for some type of adverse reaction based on PL experiences. The only question seems to be whether their reaction is appropriate and appropriately modulated in terms of their current reality (triggers/reminders). So, yeah, men have almost always armed themselves in past eras--with good reason. And, likewise, there is enough going on in terms of public violence to stimulate memories of the bad old days in medieval ___________. So, I cannot deny good grounds in terms of history, PL experiences, or even biological imperatives. The only question is whether carrying arms is an appropriate and appropriately modulated response in the current reality. Having framed the question, I will not take the next step of proposing an answer, as that would launch an interminable argument that would definitely take us out of the arena of the thread into current political issues. SO, PLEASE EVERYBODY DROP IT HERE. Anything else related to justifications for public carry or banning of arms will just end up getting a lot of posts deleted.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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  10. SundayAtDuskReturns

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    Hi BenjaminFR, for years I thought about the past life when I was in my 20s, and still had nightmares. One February night, however, I made a conscious decision to stop thinking about that past life and to move on. (I remember that night so well because it was the one and only time I think I saw proof that there are spirits or ghosts, or whatever you wish to call them, and that animals can see them when people cannot.) I then got into taking care of animals big time, and, by the time I was 30, the nightmares were gone and I had moved on. When I came to this forum in the early 2000s, however, after reading Carol's first book, I started thinking and talking about that past life again, but not because it still had a grip on me. Although we had some very serious discussions, we also had a lot of fun and laughs here. So, do you feel you will no longer have any traumatic thoughts and feelings due to your past life?

    AlexD, while I've had bad feelings about drunk Russian soldiers, communism really has never scared me before last week. Even though I grew up during the Cold War era, they were no longer having nuclear war drills in the schools, and I grew up in an area with a lot of military bases. In fact, I think I . . . or some higher power. . . chose the United States and that area for my current lifetime, due to my fear of war and Nazis. I've often felt, though, I actually belong in Europe, not in the United States.

    Thyme, oh, that's an interesting past life, and interesting what you said about London. When I was a child, I always feared if I went to Europe, I'd be thrown in jail. Of course, that fear may have come from TV shows viewed, but I think past lives could have influenced how one perceived TV shows as a child.

    Ritter, it sounds like in your heart and soul you will always be a warrior. But how do you see war as correcting all the problems of modern life today?

    There and back again, until recently, I never had any real concerns about China and Russia. I think I'm just going to stop reading the Washington Post on my Kindle Fire every day. Seriously, I just started doing that this year, and it's been a long time since I have read so much about politics, the government and foreign affairs. I've always kept up with all of that enough to be a responsible citizen, but I believe now I've given too much time and attention to it all this year, and it's time to put on the brakes.

    Spirit Sword, do you think you will never resolve the issue with your brother? Do you feel we are morally obligated to resolve past life issues?

    SeaAndSky, okay, it's a complicated issue anyway that we could probably debate forever.
     
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    P.S. Something I failed to mention in my first post is that I also sent in a DNA test tube last week to Ancestry. That also seemed to strongly tie in to my relapse. I am not totally sure why, either. I have a theory or two, though. I'm curious--has anyone else been reluctant to do the DNA testing for reasons that would be considered not the usual ones? (By the usual ones, I mean you might find out you're adopted, you are adopted but don't want to meet up with biological relatives, it's too expensive, you don't think it is accurate,etc.)
     
  12. Kenz1010

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    I’m sorry that things from your PL have affected you in a negative way.

    I haven’t had any “relapse” experiences since I’m quite new to all of this reincarnation stuff. Although, what I’ve been experiencing hasn’t affected me in a insanely negative way (besides become very emotional from certain things, but no fears/ phobias have come out of it). But I assume that’s because I haven’t seen the full extent of my memories (regarding ww2). I’m curious as to what you remember from your PL in Nazi Germany if you’d like to share.
     
  13. BenjaminFR

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    Hey!

    Well, to answer directly your question, I have a lot of thoughts and feelings regarding this past life memory. But they are not traumatic. I have been through a long process and worked with very experienced therapists to 'finish the work'. That being said, it didn't make anything disappear, as I think about it nearly everyday, by things I either hear, see or read (since I check the forum nearly every day and am currently writing a book on my adventure).

    But the 'traumatic' effect has gone, this doesn't affect me anymore, or if it does, it is highly positive. There was definitely a before and after-kind of feel as to how this adventure affected me. I am now much more confident, with peace at heart, and a lot more understanding toward others, lots of compassion and open-mindedness. Because maybe I have understood that every living being I cross path with is fighting their own battles :)
     
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    I have an on-and-off relationship with my memories ;) As a young kid I remembered a lot of violence and I acted it out with my toys secretly. My childhood was very cosy and peaceful btw - my parents didn´t even shout at me. Nothing bad happened, I´m absolutely sure of that. I was careful nobody would watch me thinking it was strange behavior. Then it was all gone for a while until I turned 9 or 10. Flashbacks. A strong urge to get back to "my life" and most of all to my body and home. Again, later on in my mid 20ies all ceased and I was busy with kids and work. Then triggers made me focus on all the crap again. I`m never totally out of it now - thoughts, ideas, memory bits creep in at least once a day. Lately I got closer to my death too, which is a good thing - I´m yearning to let go of my small time phobias and I hope this is the way. I need to get over my fear driving a car. Ever since I can remember I got sick being in a car, more severe when I was a kid. No fun for my parents to have me vomit after only a mile :eek: I believe it´s due to a couple of vows I made in order to stay on track and not let myself go astray again the way I used to. And I suspect I died driving and losing control.

    The main points of that vows must have been: changing gender, not use cars or weapons of any kind, be the caregiver of the kids :rolleyes:
    unfortunately it bores me a bit (there I can relate to Ritter)

    So yes - I´ve had relapses.

    Something that´s funny is that I don´t see any difference in personality when I think of the four lifes I remember. I was practically the very same core person. It was only circumstances and personal decisions that made the difference. But how does that fit with DNA and inherited traits? Having studied science I do have a hard time to understand.
     
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    Kenz 1010, unlike so many others at this forum, I have no real, vivid or definite type of memories of that past life, or any other, for that matter. That's probably for the best with the WWII life, too. If I vividly remembered things, I would probably try to leap off the face of the earth! The Holocaust was so horrid, I can't even imagine anyone creating fantasies about it, either. My feeling, though, are I was a Jewish child/teenager during the war, and probably died in a concentration camp. I think I had a grandfather who was a doctor, and possibly there were other doctors in the family. In one of the dreams I had in my 20s that I believe may be a past life one, I was either going to visit my grandfather or leaving his home, and I ended up in a rectangular hole in the ground under a railway track! No one ever found out what happened to me. I've had quite a few Nazi dreams, too,where I was always absolutely terrified. What WWII memories do you have?

    BenjaminFR, it's nice to hear things worked out well for you. Was your therapist a past life one? Is your story posted here at the forum? Good luck with your book!

    glia21, yes, if you were taking care of children in your 20s, I'm sure you had no time to explore past lives! What did your parents think of your behavior as a child? Are your stories here at the forum? (Everyone is going to have to direct me to their threads. :)) I didn't get my license until I was 19, because I was terrified of driving, but that may have been strictly due to current lifetime happenings as a child. I know there is a thread here somewhere where the DNA test was discussed, where someone believed it would help you realize what your past lives were. I'm not sure about that, since it seems more like a biological/science type of thing, not a metaphysical/soul type of thing. We'll see. If I end up with Jewish DNA, I may think there is something past life about those tests. I think, though, I'm probably just going to end up with the same results as those received by close female family members; at which time I'm going to think my test was a waste of money, since I could have simply looked at their results!:rolleyes:
     
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    I have a thread all about it if you’re interested :) :
    https://www.reincarnationforum.com/threads/trip-to-an-air-force-museum-possible-pl.8283/

    But to make a long story short, one memory was from a self guided past life regression. I saw myself (or who I think I was) in a military uniform. The man I saw was standing, seemed like he was looking at something (now that I think about it, maybe he was just spacing out. I do that all the time hahaha). I remember during the vision I would randomly see his face super close then I would see his full body, him standing in the uniform. His face was expressionless and quite dirty, dried mud or dirt was on it. I also felt all these different mixed emotions while experiencing the vision, anger and guilt, nothing positive.
    Another memory was experienced in multiple dreams. I had dreams on different nights and I believe the dreams were all of the same memory/ vision. In the vision it was like I was floating or viewing a battle field from above. I could see the top of soldiers helmets. The soldiers were laying on their stomachs (the ground beneath them was muddy), holding rifles. Once I’d wake up from these dreams I’d remember bits and pieces from the visions but I know some parts faded away once I became more awake.
    Those are the only memories I have so far, more will probably come to me when I’m ready. I’ve also had many emotional reactions regarding ww2 that I’ve written about on my thread.
     
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    Hi Sunday,
    my parents never said anything to me, just accepted I would feel sick quickly and stuff. They either never noticed the violence (it was only the toy bears being violent to each other - not me) or ignored it because really I don´t think they had any idea what was going on. I also had leukemia symptoms as a young child and a cow`s milk allergy which all vanished within a year, so they had other concerns with me. Today my mom is surprised my kids haven´t inherited my old problems - she really thought they would. She was sure it was something in den DNA ;)
    Anyway, there is a thread of mine but it´s not updated.
    Lately I`m about to pinpoint the year of my death by checking the songs I remember (and that take me back). Looks like it´s 1967, but that´s kind of fun research it doesn´t matter that much.

    The holocaust was definitly awful and I always wondered if the victims would be able to forget what happened to them. Of course there where other torture and genozids going on in the 20th century, but holocaust and Nazi Germany is an easy trigger - lots of movies . If you experienced that I´m really sorry... :(
     
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    Hello!

    First of all, my therapist is at the core a clinical psychologist, who happens to have had clear past memories and remembers having been through both WW1 and the Holocaust. He then expanded his horizon, trained with Shipibo shamans in the amazon, trained to be a past life therapist ( he actually calls it "being open to the transpersonal side of things") and is now almost only taking time to deal with young kids with trauma.

    You can read my story here :
    http://www.reincarnationforum.com/t...st-life-as-a-waffen-ss-officer-my-story.8164/

    Have a beautiful day!

    Benjamin
     
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    I died as a result of the Russian communist invasion of Manchuria. Or well, rather, events leading up to it and the Japanese occupation of Manchukko. I had signs and symptoms of a past life, my whole life, but I only really suffered flashbacks and intensity since 2006. I then learned about my past life and I think it was another good 7 years total for me to heal from it.

    I think honestly, it just takes time and to realize that your fears and anxieties are rooted in something real, but it's something that can no longer affect you now. I wouldn't call my life a bad one.. just something bad happened in it.

    There's been many anaylists that suggest that Russia doesn't have the economic strength to fight a sustained war and China's military is mostly for show. The Chinese have a long history of bureaucracy and military / government service as a form of "new deal" to keep people employed and I would think that their military strength is vastly overrated. They are commonly known to have demonstrations and photo opportunities with BB guns and paintball camouflage uniforms.

    In a lot of ways, both countries have modernized, but they tend to remain the same, China more so. China has always been resistant to engagements with outsiders. I don't know what the proper English translation is, but they've always had a policy of "mind your own business". Both as a way of life and to ward off onlookers.
     
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    Thanks for all your thoughtful replies! It's been really the last week, but will be back this week to read your past life stories and reply to posts. I just want to apologize right now for not getting back sooner. The Christmas season gets more hectic with each passing week.o_O
     

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