John, I just watched a video on this link (about half way down the article) that you might find helpful as it explains much that is being said. The article itself is about Quantum Theory and Consciousness and gives an example of Materialism vs what they term Post-Materialism, the next video on near-death experiences is good also - very interesting research and videos. Incidentally John, the second video also gives a good example of Native Son's comment of having someone Slap them as it mentions the limitations of Socrates' logic, something that would limit them in their ability to grasp the two-slit experiment that demonstrates the power of Consciousness as it influences photons. I think that these videos are fairly easy to understand and may broaden your thought process somewhat if the principles are unfamiliar to you. I also agree with you about Native Son's reluctance to participate with personal experiences.