Remembering Jesus

Discussion in 'Reincarnation, Religion and Spirituality' started by Ministargazer, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. Ministargazer

    Ministargazer Ministargazer

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    Happy Easter Everyone,

    This is a time of year for thinking of Jesus and for some of us, wondering if we had a past life in the Holy Land and followed Him. There are still many unsolved mysteries in the parade of lifetimes that I have had that have left tantalizing clues. Could it be that Stargazer lived in the caves of Qumran in the Essene sect studying the inner mysteries and the stars overhead and why have I always been known as Stargazer - since I was nicknamed this by a reporter who interviewed me for a newspaper article many years ago and didn't choose this name for myself? I still do not know why I have been drawn to astrology for most of my life with a seemingly inborn talent for it. In moments of tearfulness, I sometimes feel that I knew Him and then deep sadness, because I miss Him. These feelings I do not understand, not coming from a particularly religious family but as long as I can remember I've worn a cross and walked in faith. Then there were several poems that I penned talking about the color of his eyes "as if all the mysteries of the Universe were reflected there" and then I speak about following Him in the desert and how He explained the meaning behind many of the parables to me. "Lord, let me never forget my vow, to love You forever and practise it now." And then I remember hiding diaries and written pages in cracks and crevices in rocks in the forest as a child much like the Essenes hid the Dead Sea Scrolls. It seems that there are many lifetimes that we have had but only a few have left a mark that lasts for eternity. Some years ago I wrote a different version of The Lord's Prayer that hints at reincarnation and karma in contrast to the original version. Could this date back to a lifetime as an Essene? Here it is:

    Our Father, who art in Heaven
    Hallow'ed be Thy name
    Let me never forget that We once were One
    We shall be One again
    Thy kingdom come, Thy will by done
    On Earth as it is in Heaven
    Show us the Pathway Home
    Give us our daily bread
    Show us correct healing, diet and care
    Of the body temple
    Forgive us our mistakes
    As we forgive those who have harmed us
    Give us the wisdom to understand the karma of our lifetimes
    And leave all karma in Thy hands
    Protect us from the temptations that we may encounter
    On this journey through life
    Let us not be attached to anything of this world
    As we pass through it
    Let us always be devoted to Thee
    For once you touch the Higher Worlds
    You never forget
    Forever and ever
    Amen.
     
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  2. Tinkerman

    Tinkerman Administrator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Hello Ministargazer, Thank you for your post. So many of your words resonate with me. As a self-proclaimed seeker and a person who spent TOO many years lost in the quagmire of organized religion, the personal relationship that I had with Christianity was beautiful... hopeful... peaceful. But as I expanded my awareness and knowledge of the world and its people, and as I came to know reincarnation, I truely saw the evil, greed, and territorial heresy of these institutions. It seems I've been waking up to the grand scale of Creation and all its innate complexities. I too feel a strong kinship to Jesus and an even stronger one to Mary Magdelene. These historic people left powerful stories for us that have lasted for centuries. The organized institutions (in my opinion) have worked hard to manipulate and corrupt the real stories in order to protect and further their own power-seeking agendas. Look at what they did to the Magdelene! They created and perpetuated the story that she was a whore... and maintained that lie all the way up to just a few decades ago. Heck, even the principle of reincarnation has been soiled by these so-called holy people. No, I'm pretty bitter in regards to the current traditional churches, but even more so to the modern evangelicals who, in my opinion, are selling their soul for political puke. Currently, I've found refuge away from these churches in Buddhism, but I'll never let go of that connection and love for the teacher Jesus, whom some evidence points to the fact he may have studied Buddhism in the lost thirty years.

    I love your rendition of the Our Father, I too still recite it in my own words, always with words that include the Divine Feminine.

    Thank you again for sharing, it was nice to read this morning. I have moved the thread to the religion section where it fits better. Blessings!

    ~Tman
     
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    If you would replace "Father" by "Creator", "Source" or "White Light" (once got a vision in that direction) I would like it even better. I get it that in the time of Jesus the father was the head of the family and that "father" also is used to express that God is close to us and that it has nothing to do with God having a gender (personally, I believe THEY are beyond things like gender, nationality or what ever).
    Lucky you, having met Jesus in person.
    Maybe my younger son met him, I only remember that he went on a search because of certain rumors and that I didn't believe him.
    While I wish to be independent of any doctrine (was risen Catholic, and not for the first time), Jesus still has a special meaning for me.
     
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    Hi Mini,

    Thanks for your thoughts and offerings, and Happy Easter!

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--I also wonder about these things, but so far, nothing . . . in terms of memories. However, I do have a continuing love and devotion that started with an encounter in the woods at age 5. It's had its ups and downs. Sometimes I have definitely walked further away than others, sometimes for years at a time, but I keep coming back. What does that type of thing mean in a life? I grew up in a standard 50s-60s "go to church on Sundays and say a prayer at suppertime" type of household, but religion--in the overt sense--was not a strong part of our daily life. I'm sure I had the type of exposure that other kids get, but when that presence came to me at 5, it was not like anything I recall from the usual context I lived in. I think that it is like what you say about your astrology. There are some things that go way back, but that are "discovered" anew in each lifetime. I think that kind of thing--that starts early and lasts through a lifetime--is almost invariably the result of many lifetimes along a certain path--whether of faith or war or music or . . . . Anyhow, I am glad of it and for it. Blessings, S&S
     
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    Tman I really like your post because it echoes my own thoughts. It also seems as though that this thread fis well with your memories.

    S&S, I'm aware of your conflicts as you are of mine. Bertrand Russell stated something that would fit for you, something about a Protestant and a Catholic each becoming atheist nd sill retaining much of their differences. Read his book a long time ago.
     
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    Hi Tman,

    God makes it good, humans mess it up, God makes it better. E.g., Jesus came, Jesus got crucified, God raised him from the dead, etc. It's kinda what we celebrate this week. God makes something good out of what we (or others) screw up. I know your experiences may have been bad in those churches, but God will raise flowers from that barren ground sooner or later.

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--Happy Easter!
     

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