Son remembers death in the Navy (Shark)

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    Hello,

    I only recently found this site. I am hoping someone can give me some input on how to help my son. I am currently reading Carol's book about Children's past lives, my mother bought it for me and my husband, and herself to read. Thank God.

    Since my son could talk, he has told about a "when I worked on the ship". He was always very excited about palm trees and ships-? (we live in PA). At the age of two he often spoke of "working on the pipes on the boat" - while in the bathtub. Over time, he spoke of being in the Navy, "the 'old' Navy, not when Dad was in" (his dad was in the Navy- did NOT work on pipes, and was stationed in the Mediterranean - not the Pacific). He has given us detailed accounts of a ship...the colors it was painted the colors of tile, etc.

    Over time, he has told me, my husband, my father, my mother, OVER and over again about how he was in the Navy, he was in Hawaii, a spider bit his wrist but he was ok, He went to China, and then he was in a small boat outside the ship and a shark came out of nowhere and bit him up and he was so surprised by that and he wasn't sure, but he thinks the mom of his kids was already "died" and he hopes his kids got a new mom and dad. He says "then I went to heaven, and it is very, very beautiful and then I got shrinked little and came into your belly and here I am!".

    I've never disagreed with him and I've never probed, or asked questions. I do believe in reincarnation so I just took it all in stride and thought it was interesting and that someday when he didn't remember anymore, and was grown, it would interesting to see what he said when we told him his memories. My husband, on the other hand, had been very sure that past life beliefs were nonsense - until now. Now he is certain that our son is remembering and having emotional/spiritual issues because of his past life.

    At 16 months, my son had double hernia surgery. He is now, at almost 5 years old, in play therapy because he is suffering from severe anxiety. In the first 2 sessions of play therapy he was acting out his surgery. He had a hospitalization last year that just sent him over the edge emotionally, and we could not figure out what was going on. He flat out told us to "never, ever talk about the hospital." So we knew something was wrong. He was playing out his hernia surgery with me recently and got out a toy saw from his toy tool box and was 'sawing' at my abdomen. When I commented that they don't do that for hernia surgery he commented, "oh yeah? Well that's how it feels when a shark bites your belly! THAT I know."

    His anxiety is causing such behavior issues that we need to have him assessed for the usual stuff when kids aren't quite "normal" before he starts school in the fall...autism spectrum, ADD, OCD, SPD etc. Each new specialist he sees says he just doesn't quite fit into any of those categories, and they aren't sure what is going on. My son never talks about his "before I came here" story to the shrinks, oddly enough.

    I finally told the play therapist that he talks daily about his previous life which ended in a shark attack when she asked me what I think the shark puppet that he plays with frequently at therapy could represent. I don't think she expected that to be my response! She asked me if we were buddhist (we aren't) or were we raising him 'traditional Christian". I told her that is irrelevant, and I'm not going to teach him that his reality is incorrect, when as far as I know, it very well could be correct. And I think she has now written us off as new age weirdos. I can just imagine her report to the school. :confused:

    Until the last hospitalization...my son was completely normal at every well baby/child check up and advanced in his verbal skills and development. The school district early intervention team even gave him 'on track" or "above average" for every single developmental assessment - just 3 months ago.

    He started having almost daily, even multiple times per day (nap time and more than once overnight) sleep terrors not long after his hernia surgery. He still has them on occasion and frequently has bad dreams that he will not discuss and calls for me or his dad in the middle of the night probably 4 times per week, at least. Every professional who sees him says his anxiety is high, but can't quite figure out why. I took him to a Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor (acutally 2 of them in the same practice), and he opened right up to them about his past life (he seems to intuitively know who he can talk to and who he can't - not all the time, but most of the time.) After hearing him talk, they said his soul is not settled here and they did an acupuncture treatment to help with emotional trauma. He agreed to the treatment because he wanted to stop "fretting about things", and had seen me get acupuncture before and knew it wouldn't be painful. It has helped some, but I don't want him to have to continue with needles - he's not totally comfortable with it.

    How can we help him come to terms with all this? My husband - the skeptic- is adamant that our son's issues stem from the past life stuff, and that we can't resolve anything going on now, until THAT is first addressed. I always believed my son when he talked about his past life, but until I started reading Carol's book, it never dawned on me that his past life could be affecting him, emotionally, in this life. Cell memory I understood, but not the psychological aspect. So - now I see that we have to do something to help him. Can somebody please tell me WHAT do we DO?

    Thank you for taking the time to read this and any input you may have.

    Lisa

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    Hello,


    I have an update for those of you who took the time to offer support and help.


    Thank you a million times to all for your support and suggestions. I did have a chance to get great advice from Carol. With her input, I found the courage to prod and nudge around a bit when my son brought up "when I was in the Navy". I had been afraid of either putting things in his head, or of causing him distress that he or I would not know how to handle. Carol gave me the confidence to tread into foreign territory.


    So one evening as he brought it up, I asked questions and really sort of encouraged him to bring it all out. He actually asked for a few sheets of paper and markers to draw! He hasn't wanted to draw in months. He said flat out: "Let me tell you how I died." And then spent close to 2 hours drawing pictures and telling us about it. I wrote down what he said and have it on the back of the pictures. He was so intent and focused about it, and at the end he said "Oh, and one time I was Mary, but not in the Military, THAT would have been too cute for the Military!" And then he said "You do know that this is real and true, and happened, it is NOT a make-up pretend story, right?" We reassured him that we knew he was telling us something that really happened, and that it is over now.


    We started doing affirmations at night when he first falls asleep and when we go to bed, specifically to release negativity from any past lives.


    Also he has twice now told me his name is "Darter" or "Darden" when he had to write his name...it isn't. And then he says, "oh, that was before, or maybe that was my friend in the Navy." He's unsure, and it doesn't matter, but it is interesting, nonetheless.


    As well, he wanted to play "shark scientist" since then. He says that sharks are very interesting and now he wants to learn about them. I take his lead, there. He says "I'm not afraid of them anymore, mom."


    Most importantly of all, at his first therapy session since the drawing event, he again was playing with a doll that looks like the grim reaper-something he was doing frequently, and the therapist says kids use to represent "death", only this time, he tossed it aside after a few minutes and said that he is done with it "because it is in the ground now like dead people are when they go to heaven". !!! The therapist told me that whatever death he was unsettled about, he now seems to have come to terms with! This is really significant because she didn't know about his breakthough drawing...I didn't think she would understand. How is that for confirmation?!


    So he still has some other issues, that we are addressing, most likely Sensory Processing Disorder. I have downloaded the EFT stuff and plan to try it soon, it's tough to get a preschooler to cooperate. The EFT reminds me a bit of NAET, which my son has had as allergy treatments so I know that works and he is good with that treatment.


    I now feel equipped to handle any other past life issues he should bring up.


    Besides the name bit, he no longer talks about "when I was in the Navy".


    So you all should know you were instrumental in helping a wonderful little boy and giving his worried mom, dad, and family some much needed hope!


    Blessings to you all!


    Lisa


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    Lisa,


    I'm so glad that your son had a breakthrough with the drawing. I suspect that once you felt confident enough to approach him, he may have sensed that and was forthcoming with his memory, and was able to let go of some of his feelings.


    Can you share with us what affirmations you used at bedtime? I'm sure that would help other parents, too. I have heard from others that repeated affirmations at bedtime works.


    Can you describe some of the drawings and what he said? I'm interested in what he needed to do to make this shift.


    Thanks so much for sharing with us.


    Carol


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    Yes. It nearly kills me as a mom to even think about this, but yes, my son has been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder related to medical issues. His therapist specifically said he has "anesthesia" issues. He remembers WAY too much about his surgery. He has 'played' it out in therapy. He talks about the bright lights overhead, being strapped down, the draping, the adhesive on the mask, not being able to move, etc.


    I can barely stand it.


    He is dealing with that in therapy and doing well. Subsequent hospital visits (a virus, an allergic reaction) made that surface and that's when things got really bad. And when he increased the talking about his past life.


    He rarely talks about the Navy anymore. He has talked about being dead. I believe that his death was a real shock to him, and it was over and done with before he realized what happened. He was playing with ships and boats in the tub one evening last week and had the sailor "wash up" on the side of the tub. He got that look and tone of voice, and said, "When I got died by the shark I washed up on a beach and some people put me in the ground and had a meeting for me. Which was really nice, but I don't think they knew that I wasn't in there anymore - they could have used me as a coat rack, and really, it wouldn't have mattered!" And then he laughed and said people were funny when people died.


    Out of the mouths of babes!


    He also has been saying "eyeballs" nonsensically for months. He told his grandmother yesterday that when you get dead sometimes birds eat your eyeballs out. She thought that was interesting in light of everything.


    This week, I'll try to scan his drawings and see if I can attach them somehow, and include his explanations. Keep in mind they are from a 4 year old!


    In the meantime here is the nightly affirmation we use:


    "As you sleep you release all fear, pain, illness and negativity from this and all past lifetimes. You access the joy, love, health, and strength from this and all other lives. You are happy and whole. You are safe, calm, strong, and at peace. You are surrounded by love. God's holy love fills your heart and protects your soul. We love you more than anything in the world, forever and ever."


    Obviously, modify whatever you need to for your beliefs.


    This site has been life changing for us. Carol's book should be given to all new moms instead of the usual marketing loot the hospital gives from the diaper, formula, and drug companies!


    I'd be happy to do anything for any other parents going through this.


    Lisa


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    Past life drawings


    Sorry this has been so long in coming. We have had our hands full. I have an update.


    Ethan was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome.


    Some may think that this would make us question the "legitimacy" of his past life stories. However, it only reinforces the legitimacy for us. First, Asperger's kids are not known for "imaginative" play. Ethan rarely invents scenarios when playing with toy trucks, cars, or boats. Instead he just copies rows of cars as seen on our local highway. So to "invent" this past life story is even more unlikely.


    As well, I'm finding I'm not alone in noticing how intuitive and spiritually in touch autism spectrum kids seem to be.


    I have, finally, attached his drawings of the ships and shark:

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    He always talks about the boat/ship as "Looty Express", which my husband believes to be "Leyte" a military point in the Philipines.I know nothing about this and haven't researched it to come up with any confirming evidence. On the grey picture, the grey scribbles on top are the storm clouds. the grey blob of scribbles in the middle he says is the navy ship. There is a black line that starts on the left about 1/4 up from the bottom and goes across to the right and then about 3/4's across the page there is a large spike, very Washington Monument appearing. He says that is the really big wave that caused them to go into the life rafts. I find it interesting that the line stops after that wave. All the brown dots on the right lower side he says are his friends in the water and jumping off the ship. The thing in the lowest left corner he says is the shark. the thing that seems to stick off the front of the shark and is in the middle of the bottom of the page he says is the shark's mouth and teeth. The dark green marks amid the brown dots in the lower right he says are fish.

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    On the red and blue picture, the grey scribble on top is again, the storm clouds. He says this picture is a "protection boat" to help protect the navy ship. He thought it was "odd and funny" (his way of noting irony) that the guys on this ship "sometimes shooted sharks with the ship's guns if they saw them in the water". The brown circles on "sticks" that fill the middle of this picture he says are the guns. Notice the turquiose blue water at the bottom also has a big blue spike of a wave about 3/4's across this picture, too. The brown thing off the left of the rectangle (the boat) is a smokestack, the scribbles coming out of it is smoke. The dark blue dots on the lower left and throughout the middle are "the guys". The grey object that is amidst the blue along the bottom is the shark. Notice the "fin" on the right and the "teeth" on the left. As a 4 year old, his sense of scale is of course, lacking, yet in my experience, in memories the details sometime do seem immense. I thought the scale of the shark to this boat, compared to the Navy ship was interesting. He says the red in the middle is not blood, as I suspected when he was drawing it. It is on the boat and he says that the "wave was so fierce the metal was painted red". This made no sense to me at all, until my husband remembered that navy ships use a primer under their paint and it is a red shade.


    I hope this helps someone else.


    Lisa


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    I have been reading this site for several months out of curiosity and a general interest in the study of past lives. Thank you for posting these fascinating pictures, Lisa. Many of the stories recounted on this forum have been interesting and moving, but a number of coincidences have moved me to reply to your son's story with some additional information and possible confirmations.


    I think your husband's guess that your son was remembering a past life which involved the naval battle of Leyte Gulf is correct. My grandfather was on board the USS Suwannee, an escort aircraft carrier at the Battle of Leyte Gulf. My grandfather almost never speaks about his experiences in the navy, and only told me the story of the battle once, when I interviewed him for a high school oral history project many years ago. The Suwannee was hit by two kamikaze airplanes at the battle on consecutive days and my grandfather was thrown overboard from the forecastle upon the second impact. He recounts several terrifying hours treading water in the shark infested waters waiting for rescuers to recover him and companions who survived. Some men were attacked by the sharks. He has violent nightmares relating back to that incident to this day. Other men abandoned ship after the second massive kamikaze impact (without orders)by jumping overboard. As it turned out, the fires on-board were controlled and the ship actually survived. I do not necessarily suggest that your son was on the Suwannee, but offer this as confirmation that there were sharks in the water and that men did jump off the ship (as in the first drawing) and that there were many "guys in the water." There are actually quite a few navy photos online depicting this. Also, I imagine that impacts like this did create massive waves, and the intense fires involved (at least 11 aircraft--9 US and 2 Japanese--exploded on board) could probably burn off paint to the primer level.


    Your son spoke of Hawaii--most of the battleships and other vessels were originally out from Pearl Harbor, and some were even damaged in the attacks there that started the war. Your son also mentioned "Darter." The Darter was a submarine engaged at Leyte Gulf.


    On a completely unrelated, but also synchronistic, note, I do have some experience with Aspergers children. I was a nanny for a boy with the syndrome about 8 years ago. Many Asperbers children do like to draw, but it's true that the pictures are usually relatively unimaginative and VERY repetitive. This particular child I spent time with would literally spend hours drawing pictures of sharks, usually about one picture/minute, and then he would note the time on the picture. He was about 5 years old at that time. Just a strange coincidence.


    I wish you the very best of luck with your son, and I am so glad he has made such excellent improvements. I'm sure it's due in large part to your open-mindedness and understanding. Thank you also for sharing his story with all of us--it is certainly food for thought.


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