The generosity of crows

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    helz_belz Super Moderators Staff Member Super Moderator

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    This has been doing the rounds lately, but it really is quite lovely. Some stories of crows (and their relatives the magpies, rooks, ravens and jackdaws) who bring gifts to people who have helped them.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31795681

    Birds, especially the crows, are very intelligent birds. Magpies have passed the mirror test for self awareness, and been seen to hold mourning rituals for their dead.
     
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    This is really interesting. I've been thinking about how aware some animals are, and changing how I interact with them based on stories like these. Instead of treating them like they are clueless, or attempting to physically enforce certain behavior, I speak and mentally request things of them.


    It has worked on both a cat and a dog (my friends' pets). It was very helpful with the dog, especially. Since I am intimidated by large dogs, I asked it to go hang out with someone else in another room, please, letting it know I was overwhelmed by its greeting. And sweet as anything, it turned and went. OMG It raised my level of trust for that dog significantly.


    Now I want to hang out with birds, too. *grin*
     
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    A town near where I grew up has the highest crow population in the country. Every year they had an annual crow shoot where anyone could shoot as many crows as they pleased. I participated in a protest each year. I think the crow population has to do with the Native American ties in the area.
     
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    In my area, California, you have to be careful around crows. They are highly susceptible to West Nile Virus when bitten by mosquitoes. We are told not to touch them and to call a special phone number to report any dead crows we see. Several years ago I had a dead crow on the ground in my yard under a tree. I called it in and a day or two later someone came by and collected it.
     
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    There is a lot of research looking into animal cognition, the findings seem to show that many animals are aware to a greater or lesser extent. Apes, parrots, crows, elephants, whales and dolphins seem to have levels of self-awareness approaching our own. The book 'Animal Wise' by Virginia Morell is excellent and contains a lot of anecdotes along these lines, as does 'How Animals Grieve' by Barbara J King. Whenever he is asked about animal personality, David Attenborough always tells the story about when he was filming spiders. Each spider had a different personality, one didn't like the lights, one was very lazy, and one was perfectly happy to do all is spidery behaviours for the cameras! We shouldn't underestimate the other life we share our planet with!


    That is fascinating that the dog listened to you, might have to try that with my friend's dog, he is very big and a bit intimidating!
     

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