The Poems of Sisi (Empress Elisabeth of Austria) and Mini(Stargazer)

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Can poetry survive lifetimes?

  1. Poetry speaks from the soul.

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  2. The soul is immortal.

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  1. Ministargazer

    Ministargazer Ministargazer

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    "O loved ones who live in distant times to come
    and who now speaks to my soul
    will often be in your company
    will be revived when you need a poem."

    Sisi's poem (1800's)

    Could Sisi be saying that in a future reincarnation, poetry will be the link between the lifetimes and that the soul of Sisi be will recognized in the writings of Mini? Has this already happened? I will post the poems from both lifetimes and let you be the judge.
     
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    Liberty

    "They say that girls can't wander
    But I proved them wrong
    I did everything that I wanted to
    I had so much that I had to do
    Life set me forward, life set me free
    All I ask of you
    Is that you give me liberty
    It is true that the wanderlust
    Is really a neutral soul
    Who strikes the heart of all
    Who stops to heed his call.
    I can't express the way I feel
    But I can tell you where I've been
    I can tell you tales of wanderings
    And describe the sights I've seen
    Male or female
    Set me free
    The only life of my soul is me
    And the road is where I'd rather be"

    Mini's poem - age 20 (1973)

    Mini - adventurous wanderer, parallels Sisi's wandering tendencies ...

    "I am a seagull Nessundrove
    No lido consider my homeland
    No place, no place to itself binds me
    Today, infinity with wings surf of the North Sea

    Oh swallow, give me your quick wings
    And take me with you to distant countries
    I'll be happy to break the chains that hold me
    And to break the bars of my prison
    If I could fly with you
    Through the eternity of heaven
    How I would thank you with all my being
    The Goddess that men call freedom."

    Sisi's poem
     
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    When Sisi was married at the young age of 16 she felt trapped by her royal position and her obligation to the country and to Franz Joseph. Her poems echo this and strangely enough, the poetry that I wrote during my teenage years (1960's) also speak of this.

    Trapped (1968)

    "The pale grey sky so lonesome
    Away beyond my grasp
    Outlines the dead pale leaves
    That wave to the sky and dance
    The clouds are dirty
    They drift across my vision
    And wander away
    The hills are cold and rocky
    I'd like to run to them
    And find freedom
    The darkness is closing in
    Behind the sunset fading fast
    Life is running with the current
    Rushing past
    Though freedom and the cost of life must overlap
    We stand alone and wonder, why the trap."

    Mini's poem

    "Oh that I had not left the way
    That would to freedom me have led
    Oh that I had not gone astray
    On vanity's broad path instead."

    Sisi's poem (1800's)

    Photos of Sis/Sisi and Mini/Photo of Mini and son - is he Prince Rudolph reincarnated?
     

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    Can definitely see a resemblance in those pictures
     
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    Hi Mini,

    As before, I see a strong resemblance in terms of both physical appearance and in the nature and direction of your poetry.

    Just as a matter of curiosity, how do you see yourself in terms of her very strong emphasis on exercise and her exhausting beauty regimen? Both seem related to her seeming obsession with her physical appearance, but I think the fitness aspects may also have been related to her sense of her own independence.

    A great lady of her day, but a very sad ending.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    Thanks for your support S&S. It's great to belong to a forum like this where everyone supports each other and understands what it's like to emotionally undergo the remembrance of past lives and all of the feelings that accompany this. Going in the direction that Brian Stalin pointed me in, now I'm coming up with other clues - mounting evidence, photos, habits, inclinations, poetry. I'm coming to accept my life as Sisi and continue with my research. Astrologically her Mars in Capricorn is exactly the same degree as mine is and we both have Mars/Jupiter trines and have been athletic on horseback etc. I remember jumping fences and racing through the woods on horseback as a kid and never broke a bone, although my siblings did! Just like Sisi, I spent my days on horseback (ponies), hiking, swimming and writing poetry. Very particular about health and diet even to this day. I am on a strict regime as far as food and supplements go and with naturopathic. People say that I don't look my age and no bad habits - smoking, etc. I still go to the gym and swim. Have kept up with walking. Whenever I travel I do extended hikes about the city non-stop, very much as Sisi did. I have to be careful as I go solo, even this summer alone to Vancouver Island. Can't seem to break this habit of travelling solo. The stabbing of Sisi, tragic yes. I was also attacked in the same way back in 1982 but survived (thanks be to God.) I still carry the scars on my body.
     
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    Hi Mini,

    Well, that lines up some very close resemblances in terms of appearance, "prone to wander", attention to health/fitness, similar poetic musings, and astrological chart. You didn't mention anything related to the Sisi's obsession with her appearance, but your own pictures seem to be a good deal more casual. So, I am assuming that your most recent PL had what was possibly an intended balancing affect in terms of counteracting the extremely privileged and possibly emotionally insecure aspects of being Sisi. I say "insecure" because it seems to me that both her desire to be "elsewhere" and obsession with appearance may have been the result of insecurity and discomfort in her situation/marriage in that PL.

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--I am curious to know more about the knife attack in this lifetime if you are willing to talk about it.
     
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    S&S, yes, the attacker was deemed to be insane, as was Empress Elisabeth's attacker and was initially charged with attempted murder. Charges were dropped to wounding with intent. He served some time, got out of prison, attempted to find me and was unable to. He eventually killed someone else and was sent back to prison. Running away from Sisi's arranged marriage played out once more in my periodic travels away from my spouse who kindly put up with it just as Franz Joseph did. Emotional insecurity (possibly) more a realization that love must adapt to circumstances rather than love for love's sake as was Sisi's dilemma. Franz Joseph was known to be a fairly boring and conventional character - probably not very interesting to be around and not challenging enough to the intellectually complex Sisi. Hence the poetry... I have attached photos. These photos go back several decades but one was taken this year. Several of these photos show the blended side of Sisi and the blues musician (the one at the keyboard and standing in the kitchen) for instance - the PL just before this one.
     

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    Yes, the life in-between Sisi and myself was male, as Nicki the bluesman so I came back a bit reluctant to be a girl - for a long time was a tomboy. The last PL did balance out the feminine side and lessened it somewhat. The one thing I cannot fathom is the extreme drop from a wealthy royal to a poverty stricken musician, from female to male . Maybe Sisi had had enough of living as a royal and the bitter experience of that lifetime pushed her from one extreme to the other and finding poverty to be equally as intolerable would make sense in my bouncing back to middle class somewhere in-between, possibly feeling most comfortable there.
     
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    Yes, I can look back on this reflecting now that lifetimes tend to repeat themselves or as the old saying goes, "Those who fail to remember the past must repeat it." When tragically short lifetimes tend to repeat themselves possibly "the powers that be" may decide to intervene and break the pattern or did Sisi carry more karma from a life before that one so that she had to pay the ultimate price and had I already paid off enough karma from the lifetime of the blues musician so I was allowed to survive? These questions remain unanswered.
     
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    Hi Mini,

    If it is of any comfort, I am of approximately equal years (and John Tat and KenJ are even more "venerable"). There is a wide spread of ages on the board. Though, in my own personal experience, most (but not all) of the younger ones only hang around for awhile and then drift away. The life of this world "shouts" in the ears of the young, but not so loudly in middle-age and older. It is a time for picking up lost threads and trying to resolve old nagging issues within.

    In terms of pendulum swings, it is not that uncommon, and there are some threads on that on the board somewhere. So, you might want to do a bit more exploring and see what you can find. My own experience (with pendulums as a physics major) is that they hang steady unless pushed/pulled. Then the swing goes in the opposite direction, with the degree of swing governed by whatever damping forces (such as friction) are present to mute what would otherwise be an almost equal and opposite reaction. Likewise, the degree of damping forces (including intentional intervention) will govern how long the swinging lasts and how quickly the pendulum returns to stasis. What these represent in terms of "lifetimes" is your guess as much as mine, though I think intentionality probably plays a greater and greater role as the spirit/soul matures. But, this is just my take.

    On being stabbed during your current and last female lifetime--that does make one wonder. I don't think what is called "karma" is a mechanical thing. From what I can make out, this type of thing is ultimately governed (or at least subject to regular intervention by) intelligent agencies. In other words, the administration of justice in the universe is not a mechanical process. It is ultimately governed by lifeforms just like the administration of justice in this world is governed by lifeforms. Sowing and reaping seem to me to be limited to some degree or another by whether the necessary lesson has been learned, which equals real repentance in terms of wrong-doing. However, there also seems to be a need to extend forgiveness to others who have wronged you. I haven't been able to put it all together in my own mind, much less practice it consistently in my own life, but that is about as much as I've been able to muddle out.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    It's wonderful to now have a place to put my poetry of the past. Here is a poem written in 1973 that speaks of remembering past life memories.

    Miracles
    Did you ever touch the hand of God
    somewhere in a dream
    I think it might have been yesterday
    I woke up this morning
    with strange memories
    that left me sad
    for what I had been
    I care not to explain
    why He would honour me
    bring peace to a weary soul
    and set my burdens free.


    As you may notice, there are hints of "old speech" in this - Mini writing almost in Sisi's style of the 1800's instead of the style of 1973 "I care not to explain why He would honour me".

    This one here written in 1980 - even more revealing, talks of "advancing to my fate" as both Sisi and Mini suspected.

    "Life, the great struggle
    Life the mountain before me lies
    I was born on a ledge
    with no escape
    each footstep
    covered in dust of the past
    danger ahead
    I advance to my fate
    meet the challenge
    I cannot turn back
    the struggles will strengthen me
    God's at the top
    and I'm on the right track."


    Observing life after life -

    Death seems very near
    I've only finished one life
    and I'm evolving into another
    fragments of unloved lives
    break through my consciousness
    memories confusing the child
    with unsolved riddles
    it all seems very vague
    that I was born and then grew
    and here I am
    living to die
    death seems very near
    I've only finished one life
    and I'm evolving into another.


    Date of poem unknown - somewhere between 1973 and 1983?

    I seem haunted by the fact that I am aware that I am living one lifetime after another.

    "Nineteen years ago
    I stepped aboard
    a merry-go-round
    and God, spinning madly through space and time
    I lost myself, panic mounting
    the merry-go-round could not be stopped
    so 'round and 'round through the years I flew
    spun like crazy
    saw familiarity and sanity
    dim out their lights
    lost forever between
    strange summers and fantastic memories
    I spin
    in confusion."


    God,
    if I could float through green paper trees
    and drift in a column
    of dusty, buckling earth waves of brown
    life could never keep me down

    God,
    if I could reach out
    and touch the intangible clouds
    or dissolve into the universe
    and become part of the mystical Oneness
    ascending everything shallow
    the ego me
    then I'd be free

    Please me on a silver boat
    that skims the water blue
    ask the wind to fill my sails
    the sun in welcome too
    let me drift the lonely sea
    and sail into Eternity."


    1972

    Sisi often wrote of Nature and her love for it.

    "At the front of a majestic fir
    On the soft moss rejoices
    to be alone in the woods
    a fragrant autumn cyclamen
    but it does not last long his joy
    that's out of the grass of the lawn
    he comes out, a big yellow toad
    and that end up at him
    although there has been only briefly
    crushed to fine the map
    poor flower, almost mangled
    he's now all bent."

    Sisi

    "The sun mows the snow
    down the gutter
    trickling like spring drops
    cluster in the hollow of rocks
    and wet earth clumps
    Life flows
    we are moving on the river
    blind fools
    we feast and dance
    the night away."


    Mini (reference to nature and of our unawareness of reincarnation)

    "Your feet are the elements
    oh beautiful flesh
    skin bare
    to Earth, Fire, Water and Air
    because you are a part of them
    and now, in April
    can't you feel the sun within you
    also burning brighter
    warmer upon the face of the Earth
    and truth is mounting
    ocean waves are flinging spray into the air
    oh Neptune!
    follow the sunbeams, people
    they go from whence we came
    And nothing ever changes
    But the same."


    And here Mini is referring to Neptune, God of the Sea and ocean waves. Sisi also wrote about the sea ( poems of The North Sea).

    "One last long look to you beloved sea
    the farewell, however difficult it might be
    God grant that back
    I chose to take leave
    the stillness of a moonlit night before me
    or the vision splendid
    silver you shine forth
    when tomorrow, over the dunes
    you'll be touched by rays of the sun
    I, with rapid wing beat
    I'll be far away already
    still hover over you
    flocks of white gulls
    but a miss, you'll notice this."

    Sisi (1800's)

    Some of my poetry was published as a child in various magazines - "The Christian" October 1971 - "Canadian High News" so Sisi, reincarnated as Mini, was already at work as a poet once more. At one point I thought that I should publish these under the title "Bohemian Woman" which would have been an apt description of the life that Sisi lived. Probably this collection of poems and the comparisons of Sisi and Mini should be compiled into a book in future - "Searching for Sisi"? It would necessitate a journey to Austria in 2019 and I'd like to see if being there and walking in Sisi's footsteps might awaken memories. I'll keep you posted about this.
     
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    The Prophet
    Elusive butterfly Truth
    My people hunger for you
    Soul bound mystic sleeps not
    Nor lives as a person aught
    Miles in my dreams
    Chasing moonbeams
    Many more awake
    For Truth's sake
    I have lived a miracle or two
    Just to bring them to you.

    Mini (1973)

    "Truth - My people hunger for you" - is this Sisi talking about the people of Hungary?
     

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