Why this life?

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  1. KenJ

    KenJ Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Hopefully so that you gained the understanding from the experience, maybe find a good outlet for the energy you had/have to share that understanding.

    I don't know if I'd call it preaching. Surely the sharing of your understanding would be useful for those willing to accept it - isn't that what you have already been doing?
     
  2. Jim78

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    How can I share my understanding beyond a reincarnation site Ken?

    I know Mick Collins means little to you but here he's a icon and that's just ONE of my lives. Past life knowledge and my life's lessons have torn down icons for me but in my current life Jim isn't an icon. My saying Collins was wrong would fall like a lead balloon.

    I can draw a line between Collins and myself for a fellow reincarnationist because they understand about soul journeys but my trying to illustrate to others outside of the reincarnation community what I've learned has always fallen on deaf ears.

    The only instance where my lesson was digested by a fellow Irish person was when I was at a tram stop and a lady who looked just like my old love sat two feet from me. I had PTSD flashbacks in front of her. I didn't mention reincarnation or anything to her. I just relived my fight. The only thing I think I said was when I flashed back, stunned, to "combating evil creates evil". The lady saw the results of my fighting for a woman like her. I guarantee that if I had of said I felt traumatised by the Easter Rising in 1916 or guilty about Bloody Sunday 1920 she would have thought me mad. As it stands all she saw was guilt and trauma in me...because I didn't explain anything to her.

    The only way I could share my lesson is not saying how I arrived at that lesson yet the lesson wouldn't be fully understood without that explanation.

    Besides, given my past lives a layman or a shrink would probably dismiss me as suffering from a hero complex. They wouldn't listen to my experiences.
     
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  3. baro-san

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    I don't believe neither (1) nor (2). You should do what your intellect and intuition lead you to do, without being carried away by your instincts and emotions. Sometimes you'll make mistakes; you're human!

    There are (were) "things" in this life I care (cared) so much for that I'd sacrifice (I'd have sacrificed) my current life's progress for, knowingly.
     
  4. Jim78

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    Then how do you explain calamity baro-san? If we were caught in a flood or an earthquake the only real option left to us is to trust in a higher power, yet we still might die.

    My lesson is that God wants us to take the same attitude to evil. You may not believe it but you haven't seen through the gates of hell. That changes everything.

    What goes around comes around.

    I'll have to stand before my maker and say that I did it all for love. That sounds like a pat answer to me now. In my experience God doesn't want justifications, He wants faith.
     
  5. baro-san

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    It's okay. If that's what you believe, than stand by it, and you'll find out if that was right / wrong / didn't matter.

    The same with me: I don't believe in blind faith, I stand by it, and eventually I'll find out if that was right / wrong / didn't matter.

    Although I have my beliefs, I keep an open mind. I'm flexible to augment and / or correct when I see the need.

    I believe that each one of us builds their own reality, subconsciously, from their beliefs and their emotions. The reality I perceive is somewhat different than the reality others perceive.

    As a human, I don't fully master my emotions, but I'm aware that they create thought forms that I might not be able to control, and that is holding back my soul's evolution.
     
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  6. Jim78

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    Its not my belief baro-san. Its my experience. I don't like it one bit. I've never been a coward. I've always stood up against injustice. I've always opposed wrongs.

    What I've learned runs contrary to my nature. I don't like who I have to become. A coward who ignores the evils of this world, yet the other option is to create more evil.

    If you had of come to me four years ago with the concepts that I'm explaining I would have thought you mad and a coward. In my mind you would have become less than a man.

    I remember being in a van crash once. After it happened all the men let the women out of the crash first ( even the women we didn't like ), yet one man lept out of the van in blind panic, bursting through all the women and running out of the van. I thought him a coward. I thought that I wouldnt want to be in a trench with him. The idea of being a coward in my next life sickens my warrior soul, but I see no other option. Not if I don't want more heavy karma on my soul.
     
  7. KenJ

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    It seems to me that your focus on the extremes leaves you with fewer options and less space to navigate your journey. The more moderate positions allow more movement and accomplishment in many instances, of course the extremes are needed to define the area of moderation, but personally they would seem to indicate the person's position in the cycle of self-importance IMO.
     
  8. Jim78

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    Extremes always result in negative outcomes though Ken.

    The fact of the matter is, I didn't consider myself important. I simply fought the British or fought sociopaths or whatever. It was other people that judged what I did to be important. Other people were stunned by my maneuverings but I was stunned by their lack of ability to do the same.

    What I've learned in my soul journey is that we are all equal. We all have our lessons to learn.

    Its been proven, again and again however, that when I fight I change things for many people, for good and ill. That's not my fault. Its just something I'm good at.

    All I'm saying is that I've learned not to do that anymore. Its too much karma for me PERSONNALLY. Everyone's left with their own crap to deal with and I'm no different. I couldn't care less about my 'importance'. Its irrelevant spiritually. All I'm concerned with is not creating more evil.
     
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    Hi Alex/Jim:

    I am not accusing Jim of stumbling into a belief system or theology or of consciously adopting any pre-existing ones. I have no reason to believe he knows anything at all about theology in any formal sense, though he is constantly speaking about theological subjects. I am merely noting what his statements related to his own belief system and theology remind me of. My remarks were certainly not intended as an insult.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
  10. baro-san

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    We all look at the same things, but perceive and interpret slightly different, and use even more different words to describe.

    Maybe I haven't understood enough what you wrote about yourself.

    Being critical, and trenchant, about both yourself and others is a sign of youth. I was that way too. Now I think more that I don't know what drives others do what they do, I accept more the others even when I disapprove of something they did, or said. There's also that I crystallized meaningful hypotheses about major questions that tormented me from a certain point in life: what am I supposed to do in this life? what are humans supposed to accomplish during their lives? why are we here? and more of such.

    I don't think that not-standing-up-against-injustice is cowardice. There could be many other explanations. The main one is that we're all subjective, even on the most "evident" injustice. What if you're wrong? I dislike activism, vehemence, excessive self-confidence. People react uncharacteristically sometimes being overtaken by emotions, even instincts.

    On the other hand, I don't think that we are supposed to wait for anybody else to give us anything, including a higher power (neither government, nor Gods).

    Ultimately it is up to each one of us to act the way we, individually, think is right.
     
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  11. Jim78

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    Hi baro-san.

    I'm far from youthful. I wish I was youthful. Age doesn't make one immune from criticism. Age is irrelevant to reincarnation. We will be a baby after dying of old age after all.

    I only learned the folly of my ways four years ago. I'm still processing it. That's why I create topics such as this. I'm still seeking answers.

    Any old person that thinks they know it all is an idiot in my opinion. The older I get the less I think I know.
     
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    It's OK S&S, I didn't mean to accuse you of anything. Actually I didn't even see your post as insulting, because I admit I am totally ignorant on the subject, I was just trying to make a point. Peace
     
  13. Jim78

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    I'm not sharing theology or belief S&S. I'm sharing experience. Others may have different experiences but that's what makes the world go round. There's room for everything.
     
  14. There and back again

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    I do relate to having that drive when it comes to combating evil and it has almost gotten myself and three other people killed a few years back. Sometimes one just has to let things be and let God deal with it that those who make for bad karma will get their dues sooner or later.
     
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    I have a terror in me of fighting evil nowadays There and back again. Now I drop the notion that I can beat evil with evil like a hot potato.
     
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    "evil with evil" only makes for more evil, kinda had that down pat aside for some activism on youtube years back. Live, learn, and let be.

     
  17. Speedwell

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    I guess I explain things - at least to myself, usually, in terms of what I call 'lack of separation'. We go through life with ideas of separateness, first, the boundary where our skin defines the extent of our body, then of looser boundaries such as family, friends and beyond that whatever organisation or group one feels allied with. Nowadays I consider all of that as only one view. In another view, our consciousness extends far beyond the visible edges of ourselves, and overlaps, interacts with others, and not just in the ordinary three dimensions of space and one of time, but in some some richer more fluid dimensionality. At any rate - and this is my opinion, for what it's worth - I reached the conclusion that we are not separate from one another, we are part of the same. Following that, all harm we do is self-harm, all love we share is self-love.

    Having had those thoughts, I struggled somewhat with the consequences. The idea that harming others is ultimately harming ourselves - because we are not separate from others, we are one and the same, was a fairly easy step to take. But what of the idea that all love is ultimately self-love? This, for me at least had some cultural or learned baggage attached to it. The idea that doing a 'good deed' for someone might be an act of selfishness was very confusing. Gradually I'm, coming to realise that there is a different logic. We do good simply because that is the nature of what we are, the universe itself is benevolent. To do otherwise is not 'preventing selfishness', it would be to deny one's very nature.

    My apologies for posting this very personal view, please don't take it as 'preaching' or claiming 'this is the way things are'. It is just the way I'm looking at things at the moment.
     
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    Hi There and back again.

    I thought that I could push the boundaries of morality because I thought I was taking the moral high ground. I thought that justified my behaviour....I was wrong.
     
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    Hi Speedwell.

    There are no apologies necessary. What you say makes sense. It is my belief that at death we will experience a life review, we will see our interactions and harm we've done to others from their perspective. In that sense harming someone in life results in harming ourselves in the life review...so I agree with what you say.
     
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    If we get a life review im dreading mine. I feel at everything I've failed. Nothing I wanted to happen, and what normally happens in life, has happened for me. I dunno there maybe a reason. But so far this has been a far from easy journey from childhood to now adulthood as well.
     

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