Given that we accept the stated definition of Karma: you all have stated that giving love or performing loving begaviors does not result in"unlove" or an opposite "direction" of love, rather you have indicated: "The opposite is about direction, not opposite action. If you love someone, then someone will love you." "Love opposite is ------------- NOT hate but [NO-LOVE[/b]". So my question is if we accept the given defintion: "The law of karma states that for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction when an occasion arises" Then how are your responses about the result of love being more consist with this definition? charmed: you said "I know alot of people who don't believe in god, or in reincarnation and they seem to be fine with their lives, they probably have their own theories. How is that consistent with living life like X-mas with no santa, etc... Many of us have very exciting and fulfilling lives without a "theory". I simply live in the here and now, havignlearned form my tangible past and with an eye on my foreseeable future.... I have no need to believe that I am pleasing a supreme being or that my purpose is a result of past lives or future rewards and contributions beyond what i can offer to this planet in this era....I think i might feel like x-mas without santa if i thought my efforts may not be helpful or benificial in the here and now and only by the GRACE of some power beyond my control could I realize satisfaction from my choices.....I know I have made many assumptions in mt previous statyement and i welcome the chance to have them challanged. That will help me to identify evidence to support them/ or not..and if not then I change my assumption and my thinking and my ..... belief system!!! It's pretty simple I think... Take a stand....stand up for what you believe...if you receive evidence of flawed thinking...change your thinking ...and belief system...no problem... just don't use subjective experiences and unprovable phemonema as evidence! Oh, by the way, I have given more thought to the statement elnino made: "If facts exist, then saying that reincarnation does not exist is ignorance, much like saying that 2+2 is something else than 4." You began with "If facts exist"...and then went on as though they do....good place to start...How do we determine if something is a FACT? It's the journey!