WW2 particularly

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  1. briski

    briski Senior Registered

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    Been thinking a lot about the infux of German reincarnated soldiers incarnating effectively on the other side of the war, allied countries. I have probably a bonkers theory, however bare with me.

    Could it be a karma thing? Im starting to think many of the Allied soldiers reincarnated are living in Germany. Possibly as a thing to think twice subconsciously in starting another war?

    I dont think all of them have but possibly a large percentage...but then again ive prob come up with a bonkers idea!
     
  2. CanSol

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    You also need to take soul groups into consideration, I've been reincarnating with a few who knows how many times in different relationships and we're still being put together
    It's my third time as a Canadian, first time that I've been born there but with a Dutch side that draws me back to the same soul group
     
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    I seem to have a lonely incarnation here ... no hint of anyone coming to meet me again, much as I wish they would. I wonder what proportion of people end up in a soul group as opposed to alone ... anyone know? I feel a bit surplus to requirements down here.
     
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  4. CanSol

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    You might already be in a soul group but maybe not aware of it, the only reason that I know is because one has a lot of PL memories herself and have a history of being linked together, the other one also has strong PL awareness and is also linked in close ties for many lives

    I have no idea who else belongs in my soul group as they don't remember their Past Lives, or atleast aren't talking about them
    I have a feeling I've met a few that I'm friends with before but without them giving atleast a few clues I have no idea if that's correct and if so what lifetime(s)
     
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    Of course the word 'group' doesn't necessarily imply that everyone clusters together as a group. There are a number of people I've spent time with in this life, none of them ever met one another this time (as far as I know), but I'm sure I knew them before this. I think of it more as a kind of breathing in and breathing out. Inhale, someone draws close. Exhale, they float away. On the next breath, someone else is pulled near.

    I'm not particularly talking about romantic type relationships here, just people one can connect with, almost effortlessly. And I will add there have been absences, times of being separate, when no matter whoever was near, regardless of their special qualities, could not bridge the gap.
     
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  6. CanSol

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    True, mine aren't romantic either
    We were family in one life, brothers in arms in another, in this life we're not related but do have a familial relationship, that's from mutual knowledge

    Those that I have a feeling of meeting before is just that, a feeling because I've been around the block a few centuries and therefore without a hint from others makes them hard to place where we crossed paths before
     
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    I think perhaps what I have in mind is people who are able to act as a kind of catalyst, to draw something out which was otherwise only lying dormant, but effortlessly. There is never any compulsion or force. To my way of thinking, even without specific identification, these roles can only be by some sort of prior planned agreement. In that sense to me they form part of a collective - but it isn't closed, more of a network to which we encounter a section, but it extends outwards too.
     
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    inhaltslos Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Actually, it’s not that bonkers. The same idea has been discussed by myself and other reincarnated Axis ppl. :cool:
     
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    What has been around gets around and will always be around for we all have been around from one to the next so on so forth.
     
  10. landsend

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    Take into account that also many reincarnated Germans would be carrying more unresolved pain than the average allied soldier, a lot of that would be carried from incarnation to incarnation. No one wants to be a reincarnated Nazi, and I can see how one could live in denial of it. I myself have had two friends who were most likely reincarnated German Nazis (or at the very least intimately connected with the said German), one had no clue, the other had a partial clue. I plan to write a post about it as their stories are very odd, and both my friends never met (one of them is an online friend in America) and the experiences happened years apart. I still wonder about it to this day as I recalled both their past life names at the time and was able to verify their existence via Google but I never wrote it down. At the time I was petrified at what was being shown to me.
     
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    Yes, I'll post it up on another thread now, I was thinking about posting it a while back considering so many of you with lives connected to Germany are around now.
     
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  12. BenjaminFR

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    Hello Landsend,

    It is my opinion as well, that the burden of having lived a life in Germany during the 2nd World War might explain why we seem to outnumber the "Allied" identities who resurface. I would even go as far as to say that it's the lack of acknowledgement by the living on the aftermath of World War 2. As the fallen of this war were celebrated in the winning countries and the "victim" countries, I think that everyone wanted to forget in Germany. I can completely understand why the Germans who had either lived through or born right after WW2 wouldn't talk about it, and to some extent as a nation wouldn't want to recognize and thank their dead. It is something that I said a lot in regressions. My personal opinion, in my very own experience with Eugen's memory, is that the lack of acknowledgement and remembrance is one of the strongest reasons I happen to remember.

    Dying in a (lost) war is an awful burden to carry to the afterlife, but being lost in history, having no one to pray for you and being ultimately forgotten is perhaps an even worst fate, akin to dying a second time
     
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    Absolutely right, Benjamin. I feel so strongly about this, even now the bitterness remains in me. You put it well. I am bitter that our heroes are spat upon by their own people in the very Fatherland they fought for. Merely because they lost, and because some of their countrymen have given them an evil name. What on earth was it all for? I am talking about the common soldier here, not the evil ones soiling their ranks.

    It seems ironic that the evil characters from our past are in fact not forgotten, but much talked of , and are deservedly now figures of hate. As a result, and perhaps to some degree due to a certain misguided Nazi 'glamour', their memory is continued in our times and sadly, in a few cases, revered. I suppose it's important to remember them, as their misdeeds must serve as a warning to present-day society. But these are the ones who should be reviled, not the rest of us.

    The common soldier was little different in many ways from his Allied counterpart, but there might as well be a chasm between us. I live in England now, amid the people I fought against, yet with an English grandfather who fought in WWI. I am allowed to be proud of my grandfather, to honour his memory, in public too. But there's nothing here or anywhere else for my (past) self and the Kameraden I watched die in the snows of Russia. So many of us had no graves, even. We were absorbed into that foreign soil, thousands of miles from our land. We, the Unknown Soldiers, have no recognition and no honour.
    No wonder we are back in our numbers, desperate for identity, for some kind of recognition. We have already been annihilated once. The war we fight now is against obscurity. I need no-one's thanks. What I need is understanding and remembrance. Yes, and prayers too, if that's even possible.
     
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  14. BenjaminFR

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    Indeed you're right.

    There is nothing more to add, I am feeling very emotional after reading your words. While Nazism is studied and very much present, the poor souls who died serving such an ill cause are now voiceless and have been cast away, to dwell, with their names only remaining on forgotten graves. If only people knew how much we crave to have someone lay their eyes on our destinies.

    No justifications, no forgiveness we need. Just to have someone look and remember us for what we were. If sharing our stories can just teach one person that for evil to thrive, it only takes a seed of hate to be planted, then it is all worth it. That is the only satisfaction we will ever get, for the stories of all the Eugens, all the Heinz, all the nameless, have already been written and nothing can erase them.

    We can only use all these voices to shine light on our path as a collective that knows no boundaries of race or anything else - we are all one community, the human race.

    I hope I am not casting too much light on the lives of the warriors on the dark side of history, as I always keep in my prayers the innocent victims of the wars and slaughters. They deserve all honours and prayers. But the forgotten lives of Nazi germany, I am sure, also wish to share in this chorus of voices, and that is to say "no more".

    I hope the fellow members are not too distressed by the afflux of Past lives testimonies from Nazi Germany, but I hope they can find some comfort in knowing that we are all singing the same song for Peace.
     
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    I have the strange notion that a lot of us are back because we want justice and for the truth to be known.
     
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    Yes, Benjamin, Peace. I second that. I am sensitive to the number of Germans using up posting space here, and I hope our friends will forgive us our somewhat self-indulgent presence at the moment. Personally I have no other outlet for my emotions than here. The couple of friends who know my story have little understanding of the difficulty of our needs. They are bored already with my ramblings. I have no-one at home to comfort what I suffer. So for me there's nowhere else to go. I don't even remember another life, which might be more entertaining!

    But maybe we are here for another reason also ... to show how easily war can steal upon us, the toll it takes on all sides, and the warning that if we stand back and let evil prosper, our stories could well become others' stories in the future.
     
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  17. CanSol

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    I just wanted to let you guys know about a German grave, the only other official recognized by the Kriegsgräberfürsorge besides Ysselstyn, in the Netherlands, it's in ijmuiden that was the only Festung in the country and the reminders of the war are still very much present in the form of the bunkers

    Anyway, back to that cemetery, there's a German wargrave were 6 WWI submariners are buried and when I was in the town on the Dutch memorial/Remembrance day (Dodenherdenking) I went over there and visited them, one of the former Mayors actually ordered people NOT to visit their grave but many refused and went by for atleast a quick visit, it had nothing to do with glorifying war or the Nzai ideology but all about honoring them, and remembering them, they were just doing what they were ordered, ordinary Sailors doing their duty, the old mayor didn't (want to) understand that

    If I'm near a German war cemetery I'd go and honor their sacrifice, they fought and died much the same as I did, I don't hate all Germans, just those responsible and hardcore Nazis (and yes my own current life relatives that betrayed their family and country by willingly joining the SS)
     
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    Much appreciated, CanSol, thank you. That Mayor really illustrates the confused thinking that is all too common, sadly. I will always honour the fallen on my enemies' side, with the exception perhaps of Russia - but that is more about my failings than theirs. I recognise that I have work to do on that.
     
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    I keep trying to write something profound, and keep deleting and rewriting it. I guess im trying to say is your average soldier is just a pawn in someone elses game unfortunately, and whether it was right or wrong to fight you get no choice. Both sides lost many and should be remembered. It gets differcult for me to forgive the really evil ones though on either side. I hope i havent offended anyone on what i found was quite a differcult post for me to write!
     
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  20. CanSol

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    No, I agree brinski
     
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