Your stage in reincarnation according to karmic astrology

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  1. Teo

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    I am exploring karmic astrology and I observed that the order of the zodiac in Karmic Astrology should be changed, because the current order of the zodiac is based on the seasons , while for the Karmic it should be based ( imitating ) on the stages of a standard human life.
    I am not sure if the reincarnation stage depends on the Sun sign or ascendant ( rising sign ). Ascendant is the way you are seen from Others, so your external and public personality, while Sun personality is intimate and private. You decide.
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    Sun in cancer/ascendant in cancer: first reincarnation
    You cancers are at the first reincarnation, so do not remember that you have already lived an experience here, but you may have an idea of the source from which we all start. You are the ones most akin to the pre-reincarnations starting environment. Your life will then be addressed as a tutorial, and the major driving and support figures in your life will be the parents. Before exploring the various cultures of the world, you must first learn to live with ease everything about your home territory. In This life you will develop a passion for cooking or you will learn to follow a proper diet to your physical needs. In This life you will have to fight against laziness, inertia and inner fragility, and then you entrust first to the others, then learn to arrange yourself with your own strength. In This life your family is at the center of everything and you will have to learn its value. While people who belong to a different phase of reincarnations probably manage to remember something of their many past, you instead explore the past and the history of others and you will make an idea of humanity in general, with which you have to Live with Twelve lives.
    You will have a special relationship with your grandparents. You don't have a strong personality and you don't easily expose yourself. Your family could represent an intrusive or even incorporating entity. Most of you live in a geographic location where the winter makes much of the day dark, and the weather forces you to frequent retreats at home. Your mission is to learn to defend yourself and defend your neighbor. Your mission is to guide other people, especially your children. The most intense and significant part remains the childhood age up to 6 years. You will be fascinated by the nightlife for life. Some of you among the most sensitive have a sense of non-belonging, you feel intruders in the world. You will have to find a way to feel part of something.
    (P. S. Some of you live instead in the tenth reincarnation, read below)

    Sun in Aries/Ascendant in Aries: Second reincarnation
    Even from your point of view everything is lived as if it were the first time, but in reality it is not. Only that your destiny is completely different from that of your previous life. In the previous life you have suffered a lot, you have no right to express yourself and others have arranged your life according to their interests. Now you have become people who react and have decision-making strength. You have a stronger character and you are more confident. But relationships with others are always difficult with you, because of your tendency to vent your inner anger against others. You may instead want to vent your strong inner passions through the competitive and sporting activity. You are interested in martial arts and have participated in wars and conflicts, or have done the military, or live now in a war-torn place. A rustic and little technologically evolved place. If in previous life you were often bullied now instead you are seen as people with whom it is best not to argue and people think it is better not to make you angry because you explode. You have problems with the authorities. You rebel against the world and make your own head. You have a particular karmic relationship with a weak figure that needs moral support to grow, and you will be for him or her a protective figure and a brother/older sister. In your life you have had an experience with fire. Childhood is particularly important to you.

    Sun in Gemini/ascendant in Gemini: third reincarnation
    In This life you will have a particularly intense relationship with your peers. You are not people who like to relate to older adults. The more you grow the more you rapporterete with young people. Your brother or sister is a determining figure in your life. Even cousins, uncles, aunts and neighbors can have a starring role. You live immersed in the present, the past does not interest you and the future does not attract you. You have an aptitude to live life through the joke, the fiction, the superficiality and suddenly change companions of life, because this life will escape you from hand as fast as the wind. You will learn how everything can change and how many things are ephemeral and transient. Yours is a mission addressed to communication in general. You live in an environment that allows you to focus on the school world, and your first adolescence is the most important period of your life. Yours is a modern country, which gives you access to books, magazines, TV shows, and hobbies in which you will immerse yourself to periods. Writing and speaking are important and vital to your current personality. The most special among you share the existence with a twin or more than one. But know that most of you will lose sight of the twin in the next life. Perhaps he/she represents a dead person with you in the existence prior to this.

    Sun in aquarius/ascendant in aquarius: Fourth reincarnation
    The second part of adolescence is crucial in your life. You have a young, rebellious and inventive spirit. Unlike lived before, now the companies of your life are more stable, but you still live in an existence subject to sudden and abrupt changes. You are brought for diplomacy, and you are fascinated by the future. So don't look back. The past does not attract you. You are a bizarre, strange and essentially different person. Do not appreciate the value of the rules and the authoritarian figures. You refuse to follow an external model. You are trendsetter. You are usually quiet with friends, but at home you are earthquakes. In This life the adults only do the contour and do not affect you particularly. Yours is a social mission. Do not lean on the adults, you are doing very well on your own and you want to leave space. So you need to live in a little claustrophobic outdoor environment and appreciate total freedom. You have a passion for technology. You do not have a great desire to reproduce and if you happen to conceive a child you will be detached and unobtrusive parents. You are immersed in reflections and utopias. But you always stay young inside.

    Sun in Scorpio/Ascendant in Scorpio: fourth or fifth reincarnation
    In this existence you must prepare yourself to live the hidden and obscure side of humanity, and most of you can interpret both prey and predators. You will not keep virgins for long, because one of your missions represents the deepening of the sexual aspect of existence. You have to be careful to manage jealousies, rivalries, revenges and claims, and above all you have to try to limit yourself in your compulsive risk-seeking. If things go wrong you will have to repeat a shift at this stage. Your hidden or even obscure side is dominant. In your youth you risk losing a little yourself through experiences and experiments at high risk. The second part of adolescence in particular is decisive in your existence. The worst in this category end up in prison or if unlucky are victims of bad intentions. Most of these will survive the experience. You could live with inner inhumanities and traumas that you can't explain to you that might represent the way you died in the previous life. You will often have to deal with twisted, complicated and controversial personalities. You assume threatening attitudes and you risk intimidating others. You are like black sheep, but you have a great charisma, although for some of you it could represent a dangerous trait of personality for others. You have no doubts about your character and your goals. But you have a lot to learn yet.
    P. S. Some of you belong to the category of the last reincarnations, read below

    Sun in Sagittarius/Ascendant in Sagittarius: Fifth reincarnation
    This experience will be fascinating and culturally intriguing. You'll focus on the study and most of you will come to the graduation. The decade of the 20 years is crucial in your life. You will have multiple opportunities to explore other cultures and ways of life and learn that there are multiple right answers to the big questions. Your karmic encounters could occur abroad or through openness to foreigners in general. In This existence religion intrigues you and you are interested in deepening the subject, both to criticize it, and to find moral support, philosophical and sense of belonging. You will have to develop your intimate beliefs. There is a sense of positivity and hope In you. Your world is able to expand out of proportion. Still remain wild and libertine spirits. You may experience a little too much running and you struggle to linger in a long place.
     
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    Sun in Virgo/Ascendant in Virgo: Sixth reincarnation

    Your world shrinks from the huge range of experiences of previous life. You need to stop in a place and deepen and evolve your working career. You are a modest person, eager to put you in the service of others. You're back at a stage of apprentices. This existence will be regulating for you, and will teach you the value of the good living regulations that you have often ignored in previous existences. You need to moderate the excesses. You may want to focus on caring for your physique. You will certainly make concrete plans for the future. You have returned to live rationally, and you cannot get out of the mental enclosure. Your way of seeing the world is packed by science and universities. You will come in comparison with answers and alternative opinions, and you should not underestimate the importance of the opinion of others. Your experience is directed towards humility and laboriousness. Learn what it means to engage in something and start from the mess. It is not a particularly intriguing existence for many of you, you are not famous, but you are in the shadows but you remain necessary and fundamental.

    Sun in Libra/ascending in Libra: Seventh reincarnation

    You are people who seek moral support in life, whether it be the willing colleague, whether it is a partner and instead of a partner for life. In this existence you deepen the social aspect of life that you have lost sight of in the previous existence. You will have to learn to Rapportavi with the needs and needs of others, and therefore you will have to learn to balance and moderate. You are asked to behave in a certain way, and to show you in a way that could conceal a lot. You are asked to make a beautiful figure and to be attentive to appearances, and to the impression that you give. But some of you will live your life with a bit of healthy relaxation. You are interested in the rules of good living that have been inculcated in the previous experience. Not everyone among you will be able to marry or keep a job, but you will not miss a youthful love, and the company of trusted friends. You are a moderately known, moderately famous personality. There's no room for the excesses. You should not try to be perfect because you still have a long way to go to fully evolve.

    Sun in Taurus/Ascendant Taurus: 8th Reincarnation

    You are an adult soul at last. Your territory intrigues you particularly, although many of you live a monotonous existence with fixed and unmalleable ideas. Rediscover the passion for food and the pleasure of owning, and living a more homely life. At the same time the natural world in all its forms fascinates you. You can do with plants and animals. In this existence you relate to the world of money in particular and deepen the economic aspect of existence. You do not want to expand your private and personal territory. You no longer expose yourself to any risk. You are fascinated by materialism and you almost become more attached to objects than to people. You are collectors and you look for quality. You mostly relate to the "non-human" of the Earth. Many of you find a stable job and always stay in the same place. Life could give you little to start with, but much to gain in the future. However they go things need clear reference points. You don't really care about the social field. You are realistic and materialistic.

    Sun in Leo/ascendant in Leo: ninth reincarnation

    Your children, which most of you will have, will be placed at the center of existence. For some of you, however, the only individual who counts something is you. Just you. Yours is a mission related to the exposure of your talents, and many of you will live success and fame, but your ego swells, with unpredictable results. You are the most suitable people to guide young people and new lives. Many of you will be lucky enough to find a job that you don't have too much of a day, so you can dedicate yourself to your hobbies, to life-giving entertainment, that you live with a strong passion. In your previous life you have surrounded yourself with objects, while now recalling audience and audience. The success that you will gain could hide pitfalls and illusions. Here you can reach the highest level of the twelve stages, but it is also easy to sink. In the previous life you have been clinging to the culture that surrounded you, now you have the opportunity to start new trends, to put your brand and to follow your style.

    Sun in Capricorn/ascendant in Capricorn: Tenth reincarnation

    You're an old soul. The old age from 50 to 69 will be decisive for you. Career and social status are put in the center. You no longer have time to deepen the social aspect of life. The friends you find tend to escape and you lose sight of them soon. Your character is now proving everything and you relate to the world with realism, but your soul also shows the first spiritual ailments. Feel that you are missing something on the inner level but your environment does not allow you to recognize it and deepen. Geographically many of you go from the heat to the cold, culturally from the stars to the stables. You have to resume from a low starting situation to achieve success. You will not be able to touch the heights of your work because even if you get there, you ask if it was really worth it and you will not feel satisfied. In This existence we must understand old age. As a child you relate in particular with the grandparents, as young children you will want to grow quickly and attend the great. You felt important in the previous life, now you have to learn again the hard facts of life. You are realistic and do not exaggerate anymore.

    Sun in cancer/ascendant in cancer: Tenth reincarnation


    In This existence you focus again on your children and you are an old soul. Your family will expand from time to time, and allow you to periodically host karmic figures. You are in close and intimate contact with past experiences and previous lives. Retracing the past of your country, and your own path with your children, experience nostalgia, you are passionate about history and live in a somewhat retro style. You lock yourself in the family shell and home and you are a little uncomfortable with the social world. For you, middle age and menopause are particularly distressing experiences. You spend a modest, limited existence, with a family perhaps obtuse and intrusive or incorporating, which requires too much of you. You take refuge in what you know. You will again be carried away by the will and try to interfere as little as possible with society.

    Sun in Pisces/Ascendant in Pisces: 11th or 12th and last reincarnation

    You are impressed by the flow of time and the transformation of your body through the phases of this single existence. You are old souls, but for this reason even more fragile. The passion for the spiritual and religious aspect of life reemerges. You are easy to strong emotions, empathy and identification in others. Look for answers in your dreams, and you may often spend experiences in the hospital from time to time. Previously soddisfacevate your ego and adoravate the important people and celebrities for you were models to imitate, now instead you are brought to help and in some cases even serve the unseen, the weak and the exploited. Many of you are part of these categories. You are able to save lives, console those who need, change people and bring them back to society. You have humanitarian ideals and attributed importance to religion. You carry an inner baggage of fatigue and limitation. In the previous life you were aloof and miserly, and now you will have to develop empathy and sensibility. Remedy the debts of previous experiences by serving those who need more attention. You have particular and unique feelings, emerging memories of other lives, intuitions, premonitions, you know a lot about synchronicity. Fantasy can become reality, dreams come true, fate from a thousand streets often intersects your path.

    Sun in Scorpio/Ascendant in Scorpio: 11th or 12th reincarnation

    You are an old soul that crosses intense transformations at an intimate, inner and physical level. You know a lot about mortality because you have experienced major and dramatic losses and bereavements, and you tend to see everything in black or white. They tell you that you have a strong sexual passion, but some of you feel uncomfortable in this respect and have strong expression difficulties. Think of the debts to be paid and the inheritance you leave to others who will survive. You tend to go through stages where you get gloomy. You have to understand what really matters. You are at a crossroads, and you can choose to live negatively or positively. Know that, however, you will create yourself the hell and heaven. You are able to analyze a situation from the psychological point of view, you are veterans of humanity. Maybe you choose to do some good every day, maybe you choose to threaten entire countries. You can make headlines, one way and the other. You have to choose whether to benefit humanity or to taint yourself with crimes. You are life saviors or life-exploiters.
     
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    KenJ Assistant Archivist and Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Teo, your posts are interesting, and I admit both my ignorance in astrology and recognition of some meaningfulness to it. I see no reason to suspect that reincarnation would be limited to one birth in each house. For one thing, there would be an obvious disparity among birth dates of people remembering past lives where there would be none in the first house (Cancer in this instance). The things you mention are indeed things that are in life-lessons, but I see no reason for the structure that you propose, I guess I need further clarification.
     
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    Hi Teo,

    I find this rather fascinating. I read somewhere that we traverse the astrological signs in our incarnations in, I think the article said, reverse order. I also recall reading in a Western treatise on reincarnation from a few hundred years ago that we go through 12 incarnations per age, and have to start again in the next age if we do not achieve salvation by that time. Just bits and pieces, but nonetheless, interesting. When I first saw this type of thing I was interested in using it as a vetting tool to pinpoint prior incarnations. However, I never really went any farther, don't have a theoretical basis, and don't really know much about astrology.

    BTW--my Sun sign is Capricorn with Moon in Virgo and Libra Rising. I don't know how that works in your schemata. Frankly, I don't fit a lot of the statements you have under Sun in Capricorn, but could piece myself together much better taking part of the applicable statements from the two you have as 10th reincarnation--i.e., part from Sun in Capricorn and part from Sun in Cancer. However, I could come even closer by piecing together applicable statements with part coming from Sun in Capricorn, part from Sun in Cancer, and part from Sun in Pisces.

    I note that only as a point of information. I don't know what it could mean.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    Hi Ken,

    I'm curious to see what you find if you did what I did above in terms of Sun signs.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    PS--I know the astrological stuff about myself because many aeons before (actually sometime in my early 20s) I looked at a book on finding your ideal match astrologically and looked up the stuff I put down above in the charts in the back of the book. Interestingly, the book said Aries was not a good match for a Capricorn. My Aries wife and I have been married for close to 40 years now. Go figure.
     
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    PPS-BTW--Cancer also appears later down the chart, as 10th. So, you could have Cancer births there as well.
     
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    S&S,
    I don't know where my ARE printout is just now, however I am a Gemini (early cusp) married to an Aries (late cusp), and the most comfortable feeling sections are the Aries, Gemini, and Aquarius text sections above. This makes me much younger than you old man;)
     
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    Hi Ken,

    Don't bet on that soul age difference . . . old soul! o_O I'm not sure Teo actually has all the kinks worked out of this system yet, though it is interesting to me that you (like me) can also come to something close to how you see yourself by drawing on 3 adjacent houses that include your own birth house.

    BTW--My understanding was that ARE/Cayce's take on this kind of thing was quite different, with different influences having to do with different places in the cosmos where you had previously been a resident. That also reminded me that you came to this solar system at some point from elsewhere--with two suns. Which, depending on its distance, might not even share the same constellations. This THEN made me wonder whether you THEN had to start all over at Cancer #1 Old Soul ;), which might almost make sense . . . I think. :rolleyes: Back to the end of the line oldster! :D

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--Thanks for getting the Emojis started. At my ADVANCED SOUL AGE :confused:, that's just about as much fun as I can stand. :cool:
     
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    I think astrology is too vast to understand. I read somewhere our earth is somewhere in 'middle stages of evolution'. I think we have already have several hundreds if not thousands of incarnations before.

    More highly evolved souls who have no earthly desires are reborn in astral plane. And the most evolved ascend to causal plane. When all the desires are satisfied we attain liberation. Liberation is a state when our soul meets with the spirit, which is the creator of all things.


    Our whole existence - why we are born, where our soul comes from , and where our soul finally rests after attaining liberation is beautifully explained in bhagwat gita commentary - by paramahansa yogananda.

    I have read a little bit about vedic astrology - Vedic astrology does not give much importance to sun sign but more importance is given to houses.
     
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    Sky17,

    You are correct! Earth is at present going thru a global shift in soul consciousness from late young soul stage to early mature soul stage. Which means that the vast majority of souls incarnated today on planet earth are at a late young soul stage of consciousness.

    Young souls are at the height of vigor with respect to material pursuits. Having the understanding of the two previous soul stages from their past lives inherent within themselves, they seek to tame the world at large. Young souls are the architects of civilization, the builders of empires, the leaders of business and economics. Their basic motivation is materialism, and they will work unstintingly for their material achievements. They are the most likely of the ages to be "workaholics", constantly in a state of unrest, seeking their materialistic goals. More than any other soul age, Young souls feel at home in the physical body — the flesh is their playground. They really like it on this planet. Popular interests are mundane things such as government, business, lawyering, sports, and policing. This state of awareness has been on this planet for the last 2000 years or so. But that is changing. The shift is happening already towards the mature soul stage of consciousness which is why there is so much change on the planet at present. The mature soul develops an ever-deepening sense of both self and others. Life is no longer simply a matter of what happens out there in the physical world, but also what is going on “in here”, where we are coming from the inner dimensions of our being and what it all means.

    Through understanding more and more of their own psychology, mature souls also learn about what makes others tick. They come to recognize that all others are their equals, at least on the inside. In fact, their own perspective is nothing but one among many equally valid perspectives. This is because the heart chakra on planet earth has opened up and many are realizing that we are all inner connected with each other and with the cosmos. So basically we are finally growing up as a species. Well most of us are anyway.

    Astrology is about what kind of karma we come here with from past lives however we are not bound to it. We have within us the capability to grow beyond our astrology sign since astrology in only limited to the physical and astral worlds. And as soul we are much more than that. Because as soul we are eternal and always have been.

    Hope that helps! Thanks for being so perspective on the subject. You are surely a very mature soul.

    Peace and love my friend.

    P.
     
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    I have remembered two names. One I'm very sure is me and one is a last name of a person I can identify and feel is probably the right person. The 1845-1927 life was a Leo Sun, Aquarius Moon. The 1941-1965 life was a Pisces Sun, Sagittarius Moon. The draconic chart of these two have conjunct Gemini Moons. I am a Cancer Sun, Aries Moon and my draconic chart is a Libra Moon trine the conjunct Gemini Moons. The fascinating link to all three is an evolving aspect which I believe is what I am exploring. I don't know the ascendants of the past lives. The evolving aspect and the moons seem to be a karmic part of my charts. Each life advances the mission so to speak.
     
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    I Am So Interested In All Of This!!! And would so love to be able to navigate this information better. I'm new to all of this but am compelled to learn more about reincarnation and astrology. My interest in reincarnation comes from my interest in buddhism. How can i find out my sun/moon signs what house etc? Sorry but i don't know enough to ask my question correctly
     
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    Just search online for a free astrology service where you can fill in your data and you'll get your birth chart.
     
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    Astrodienst has a free calculator and a lot of extended options. To get the correct houses and moon degree you will need your exact birthtime.
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Awesome thanks!!!
     
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    I was born under Libra on the cusp of Virgo, but I feel I fit better with Scorpio on this one. I don't know the exact time I was born, however, so I can't determine my exact signs for Ascendant and Sun astrology. Then again, I've also never really taken a profound interest in Zodiac astrology, and I don't often believe the predictions that psychics glean from them.

    Still, I'm not one to not give something at least one read through. And, this does seem an interesting insight, at least.
     
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    t all what you think you are, as you are clearly very Jupiterian (God's sign ),and neptunian,and more likely to
    to be Saggitarian which allows you to receive from the Holy Spirit ,as 'flesh' cannot receive from above ,but receives only through the senses .
    It is the Ages which seem to travel backwards to arrive at the last age of pisces ,which is now ending .
    Bonsoir ,Sea and Sky .To reply to your mention of not being a Capricorn etc ,the signs used in tropical astrology are not the true signs of the Zodiac
    (God's programme )and you are most likely a Saggitarian .Saggitarian seeks to go beyond and except where the overall chart indicates will be a
    seeker of God .The majority of this sign are to be found in the priesthood ,higher echelons of the airforce ,army etc .It is also the fire that Jesus talks of when He says ,man cannot be saved unless he will be born again of Fire and Water .
    The dates are approx .17th December -14th January ,when Capricorn a very materialistic ,earthy sign, from which come ambition for money ,wealth and power .This the sign typically for Bankers, and those who wish to be at the top of the tree in the World .
    A chart is complex ,so not all are exactly the same of course .

    Ps you will have water too ,probably Pisces .
     
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    Hi Last Age,

    I do not understand the first part of your post, so perhaps you could use the edit function to fix that part up a bit. However, I like the gist of what you have said, though I admittedly find the subject overall fairly confusing.

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--You are right about not being particularly motivated by money, wealth and power. However, my father, who's birthday I only missed by a couple of hours, was an archetypal Capricorn. So, things can be confusing.

    PPS--I actually wish I had a bit more of a way with money. It seems to avoid me like the plague. o_O
     

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