Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

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  1. EnergyGem

    EnergyGem New Member

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    Hi all,

    I've come across a fascinating book that talks about high level spiritual things from a scientific perspective. This book is intriguing as it talks about many similar things to what people in mystical states mention such as seeing into parallel dimensions and interacting with beings from other worlds etc.

    This book is called Zhuan Falun and it is from the Buddha Law School of Cultivation however it is not Buddhism the religion or Daoism the religion, it's something more profound. It seems to me to be more of a spiritual science as many of the terms and concepts in the book are talked about in a scientific down to earth manner instead of flowery mystical prose which I found very refreshing.

    Now here is where it gets interesting, this book talks about the following things:


    Other Dimensions - Levels Of Dimensions spanning into the microcosm and also outwards into the macrocosm

    The Soul - It talks about people having a Master soul and a subordinate soul which is hidden from you but is at a more advanced level then you, it states some people have more then one Subordinate soul and some are of not of the same sex as you i.e males having a female subordinate soul etc.

    Microcosmic worlds - This concept was very far out but it talks about there being worlds within you, countless worlds. Similiar to our world with life , water, animals etc. An analogy is zooming an an atom within one of your cells and realizing at that level of magnification it is just like our solar system. Then zooming into a single particle in that world and finding out it too is a vast world, apparently the level it can go onwards like this is beyond imagination.

    Supernatural Abilities - In the book they mention that everyone has them it is just that they have atrophied. It goes into depth about this topic. Some abilites that are mentioned are precognition, retrocognition and remote vision.

    The 3rd Eye - Talks about how at the front part of our pineal gland there is a complete structure of an eye there. Modern science calls it a vestigial eye but in the cultivation world they say this eye just naturally exists like that and it can be activated allowing one to pierce through this dimension and see other dimensions. It talks about how there are many levels to this 3rd eye and it goes into great depth about it.

    Thoughts - This part was amazing. It talks about how a human brain is just a processing plant. How the real you is actually your soul, it's like your whole body and brain is just a vehicle and that the true commands are issued by your master soul, but this master soul is very tiny and it can switch positions while inside you and it can also expand and shrink. It can move from your brain to your heart and to other parts of your body and it is 'he' who calls the shots. Your brain is just the factory which your master soul sends his cosmic commands to which then create the forms of expression and communication we use such as speech, gestures, etc.



    These are just a few things that are covered but there are many many other things which blew my mind when I read it because of how it resonated with some of the mystical experiences people sometimes have, especially the multidimensional nature of reality and how all of them are hidden in our day to day perceptions of the world.

    If this sounds interesting to anyone you can grab a copy of the book here:


    http://en.falundafa.org/eng/pdf/zfl_new.pdf
     
  2. hydrolad

    hydrolad Senior Moderator Super Moderator

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    Sounds like a good book!!!


    My friend purchased this book after hearing rumors of it, especially:


    QUOTE:


    "Supernatural Abilities - In the book they mention that everyone has them it is just that they have atrophied. It goes into depth about this topic. Some abilites that are mentioned are precognition, retrocognition and remote vision."


    My friend knew I was interested in these abilities and felt I might try to read about them, but I never got around to reading the book, perhaps now I might. :)
     
  3. EnergyGem

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    I hope you find it of interest. : )
     
  4. AOSpare

    AOSpare Zos Kia Cultus

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    Many consider Falun Dafa(Gong) a cult. Why, because it denigrates other QiGong teachings and has over ambitious claims of what it can do and offer. The positive aspects is that it is not allowing the pupils to charge money for teaching it, which undoubtedly caused some stir in the American "new age" circles, where everything is about money. I always found QiGong a very potent and beneficial teaching but I'd rather learn form a mainstream teacher then Falug Gong.
     
  5. EnergyGem

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    It's not really a cult, people come into the practice or leave whenever they like, like you mentioned no money is involved and people practice while maintaining a normal family/work life either at home or at a park with friends or other cultivators.


    Falun Dafa is indeed a very high level Qi Gong system. It isn't just about healing and fitness like many of the Qi Gongs out there today but has far more profound things involved within it although that been said, it's healing effects are really quite amazing, an actual book has been written about this:


    http://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2005/4/3/59184.html


    Actually the level of this Qi Gong is beyond most Qi Gongs spread in society nowadays, this is mentioned in Zhuan Falun:


    "What we cultivate in our practice is huge, it’s not like all those ones that imitate animal movements. What we cultivate in this practice is just immense. Back in the times of Shakyamuni and Lao-zi, all of the truths taught then were just truths within the scope of our Milky Way. Then what do we cultivate in Falun Dafa? We cultivate by following the laws governing evolution in this universe, we take the highest nature of the universe—to be True, Good, and Endure—as the standard to guide our cultivation. What we cultivate is something so huge, it’s the same as cultivating a universe."
     
  6. AOSpare

    AOSpare Zos Kia Cultus

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    Yes, that is what they claim, but why denigrate other Qi Gong? Remember, this is a very new teaching and the Chinese culture, along with body/mind, Dao etc is about 5000 years old - they had Shaolin, White Lotus monasteries etc, lots of amazing stuff, hundreds of years before European enlightenment . They were very well informed and managing it without Falun Dafa. I have nothing against it, but common sense dictates to look at both sides of the story. I know many claim the evil communist Chinese are persecuting the poor Falug Gong people but usually nothing is this black and white...

     
  7. EnergyGem

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    It's not that they denigrate other schools, actually it's stated that you can cultivate in any upright and righteous school that you wish.


    Most of the Qi Gongs (although ofcourse not all) out there today are purely to get fit and healthy and there is nothing wrong with that, those practices are great too it's just that the content of Falun Dafa expounds things on a higher level, it has deeper and more profounder implications.


    Your right ofcourse, there are other schools of Cultivation that are high level and upright too and Falun Dafa acknowledges them but they say that to cultivate one has to choose one school and you can't mix in different practices into your Cultivation otherwise your Gong (spiritual energy) will become messed up. Why is this so? This is explained in detail in the book:


    http://en.falundafa.org/eng/zfl_new_3.html#3


    Actually although Falun Dafa has only recently been given to the secular world it is actually a very ancient Cultivation Way ( predating this cycle of civilization ) that has been passed down in secret from Master to Disciple. Only recently, since 1992 or so as it been given to the public at large.


    This is actually discussed in 'Zhuan Falun' in depth in the section entitled 'Qi Gong Is Part Of Prehistoric Culture'. The html version is here if you want to check it out, A most fascinating read:


    http://en.falundafa.org/eng/zfl_new_1.html#4
     
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    Based on the first section: Like all of these upper level teachings, I immediately noticed a very strong world-view filter of the era on how they communicate their information.


    I have no doubt they've realized something life changing.


    Yet I can already see how they limit perspectives in many ways, just by being unable to see their own filters.


    They do sound judgmental of many groups, and not just those who do Qi Gong for exercise. I am irritated by how they refer to sexual orientation, for instance.


    They set themselves up as the ones who hold and offer "The Law Wheel" (a spiritual machine handed out to thousands at a time?) as if they are some factory on a spiritual level, manufacturing the solution for spiritual power.


    Also, "The Law" makes me think of legalism and how it affects Christianity, for all that I know they may thinking of "The Law" in light of "the way things naturally turn out by their structure and interconnection" ... though their definitions of what is possible are limited by their observations.


    In my opinion, they are at most making people aware of the possibility that their own higher selves (or guides) can do more for and with them than they have been aware of until now. They already have the capacity for these feats within them.


    And for all they say they're delivering it only to those who are "ready" I'm relatively certain that many who are listening to and reading their information are being diverted into pursuing an "elite status" of spirituality, diverting their energy from their actual purpose.


    Maybe the result is about the same, but the credit they imply they deserve frustrates me. Anyone who listens carefully at the spiritual level and is ready, can arrive at these achievements even though they may have different words for them.


    These people are setting their audience up to revere them, and it frustrates me, because they clearly don't think they are doing what they are doing. It feels like marketing, even though nothing seems to be "sold" in the process. (And yes, I can see that they talk about this as a problem and try to avoid it. I don't think this author is consciously trying to set himself up. He's just so certain he's more right than most people that he creates assumptions about his authority when he communicates.)


    That being said, I'm going to read the rest of it, because I like comparing "high level" teachings to see what they agree on and where they disagree. A lot of what I'm reading reminds me of my research on several other groups, so that's pretty interesting already.
     
  9. EnergyGem

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    Hi MereDreamer,

    Sorry about the late reply.

    In regards to sexual orientation it's true, Falun Dafa regards homosexuality to be sinful, but many upright schools of Cultivation both from the Daoist school and Buddhist school also believe this to be so.

    The Law Wheel that you mentioned is something unique to the school of Falun Dafa. Every school has it's unique ways of Cultivation and it's own way to develop Gong (Spiritual Energy). For instance the Tantric school of Cultivation also cultivates a Wheel but it is not the same thing as a Law Wheel. Each school has it's own system and it's own way of spiritual development that's unique and Falun Dafa is one that cultivates a Law Wheel at the lower abdomen area.

    Of course there are many different upright Cultivation Ways and Falun Dafa is but one of them (albeit a very powerful system) and one can choose whatever they wish to practice, this is stated in Zhuan Falun:


    excerpt 1:

    "Here we’re teaching you to take the right path, and along with that, we’re teaching you the Law inside and out and encouraging you to have your own understanding of it, but it’s still up to you whether you decide to learn it. "The master leads you through the door, but cultivation is up to you. Nobody’s going to push you to cultivate. It’s up to you whether you cultivate. Or to put it another way, when you choose your own path, when you decide what you want, or when you’re trying to get something—nobody will stop you. They can only try to kindly persuade you"

    excerpt 2:

    "Our Falun Dafa is one of the Buddhist system’s 84,000 disciplines. It’s never been passed on to the general public before during this period of civilization, but it did once save people on a large scale in a prehistoric age. Today I’m spreading it again widely during this final period of the kalpa’s end, so it’s just extremely precious."

    excerpt 3:

    "I’m not saying you have to learn my Falun Dafa, but I can say that what I’m doing is sharing some principles with you. If you want to cultivate you have to commit to one discipline, or else you won’t be able to cultivate one bit. Of course, if you don’t want to cultivate we’ll leave you alone. The Law is meant to be heard by people who really cultivate."
     
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