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Jesse - a conversation about the case.

deborah

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Aili and I would like to invite you to post your thoughts regarding the case Love Binds: Jesse's Story in this thread. Jesse's grandmother Loretta, his mother Terri and Carol will also be making an appearance. We look forward to your thoughts, reflections and any and all questions you might have. ENJOY!
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WOW WOW WOW - what a sad but beautiful story. I do hope to hear what Jesse's' grandma and mom have to add. My heart goes out to them...and THANK YOU for sharing this!
 
What a beautiful and powerful story, sad and happy at the same time, couldn't help but tear up. Thank you so much for sharing that with us.
 
Jesse's story


Hi Sherrilynn, I just read your reply to Jesse's story. You are the very first one to ans. Well Jesse was just here at my house, I live right next door, so I have always been close to my Grandchildren. He just said that he was going to be famous:laugh: My Greatgranddaughter Michaela, is here too. She says Hi. She is Rocky's daughter, that was killed with his brother Tommy. Life hasen't been easy since they died, but being able to talk to them in spirit helps. Terri and I both experienced spiritual communication with the boys after their deaths. They even told us that Tommy was coming back, unless you have ever had this experience. We know that they are only a thought away. As Ever, Grandma Loretta
 
I couldn't help but cry when I read this. My goodness, I have no idea how your family has preservered throughout this trauma. My heart was breaking while I read the story of the crash. Especially when Terri woke up and just knew that something was wrong. I have experienced this myself and so has my mother.


Jesse's story is amazing! I am so thankful that you decided to share it w/us. It just reinforces what I already believe.


I am so thankful that Jesse/Tommy came back to again be in your lives. I can only guess what a blessing he is. :D


It is amazing the validations that he has given your family. What an amazing, wonderful end to such a tragic loss. You can truly know that he really is Tommy reborn. hug2.gif hug3.gif
 
A wonderful story! :thumbsup: Thanks for sharing. :)


Wishing all the best for the family,


Karoliina
 
I'm so glad that Loretta and Terri agreed to share their story, and am thankful that Aili and Deborah wrote it up for all of us to read.


Please share your feelings and thoughts about this.
 
Great story, thanks for sharing!

Loriegram said:
Terri and I both experienced spiritual communication with the boys after their deaths. They even told us that Tommy was coming back
Ouija, automatic writing or telepathic connection?


Has Rocky shared if he also is planning to come back to earth soon, in your family or elsewhere? (or maybe he has other things to do in the spiritual realm first?)
 
Loretta - perhaps you could share the hummingbird story and if you have a picture better than the one you sent Carol - scan it and provide a link. It is an extraordinary example of messages received from departed loved ones. ;)
 
Jesse's Story

Deborah said:
Loretta - perhaps you could share the hummingbird story and if you have a picture better than the one you sent Carol - scan it and provide a link. It is an extraordinary example of messages received from departed loved ones. ;)
I will have to look for the picture, I have so many picture albums. But that was really a good one. Loretta
 
Indian said:
Great story, thanks for sharing!
Ouija, automatic writing or telepathic connection?


Has Rocky shared if he also is planning to come back to earth soon, in your family or elsewhere? (or maybe he has other things to do in the spiritual realm first?)
Rocky, still communicates with me in my thoughts, he said no,he is busy on the other side. But he did tell us that, that is why his daughter Michaela, had to be born, so we would have a part of him still on earth.She is so much like him and she does the same things he use to do, it is uncanny how much she reminds us of him. Loretta
 
Hummingbird Image


Glad to help Loretta; I have download the image into my photobucket for you.


Here is the excerpt that you sent Carol; that she sent to me:

Birthdays seem to be good times for loved ones on the other side to communicate to us. Because it means something to us all. Holiday's too. On their Stepfather's birthday, May 29, 1997 a hummingbird flew into the house and Kevin put his hand out and the hummingbird sat right on his finger, long enough for my daughter to take a picture of it.
 
I was doing some research recently, and read on a site that the Hummingbird is the totem for “Clarity.” According to many different native traditions, the Hummingbird is considered sacred. Many native people see the Hummingbird “as a symbol of getting to the heart of a matter, of clarifying an issue, as the tiny Hummingbird gets so quickly to the nectar deep in the heart of a flower.” (Quoted material by Sun Bear and Wabun Wind)


The Taino consider the Hummingbird (colibri) to be a sacred symbol because the Hummingbird is a pollinator and therefore disseminator of new life. To them - it symbolizes rebirth of their people.


How very fitting, imo. :D


What a rare and wonderful gift – I cannot imagine those busy little creatures stopping for anyone! :D Thank you for posting the photo and sharing the excerpt, Deborah.
 
The hummingbird thing is unbelieveably cool. Beautiful story. I remember reading this at your house Deborah. I'm so glad you decided to post it.


I've never heard of more proof than this.


Vicky
 
Humming Bird

Ailish said:
I was doing some research recently, and read on a site that the Hummingbird is the totem for “Clarity.” According to many different native traditions, the Hummingbird is considered sacred. Many native people see the Hummingbird “as a symbol of getting to the heart of a matter, of clarifying an issue, as the tiny Hummingbird gets so quickly to the nectar deep in the heart of a flower.” (Quoted material by Sun Bear and Wabun Wind)
The Taino consider the Hummingbird (colibri) to be a sacred symbol because the Hummingbird is a pollinator and therefore disseminator of new life. To them - it symbolizes rebirth of their people.
Thank you for sharing that information on the Humming Bird, I didn't know that, very interesting. Loretta:thumbsup:
 
Mommyof2 said:
What a beautiful and powerful story, sad and happy at the same time, couldn't help but tear up. Thank you so much for sharing that with us.
Hi Mommy of2, I just wanted to say thank-you for your loving comment. Loretta, Jesse's Grandma
 
That pic is amazing! You just don't see that every day! :D I definitely believe that this is a sign for your family. It is a very fitting sign. How beautiful. :thumbsup:
 
Jesse's Story


Hi Amy, I just wanted to thank you for all your kind words, they really mean a lot to me. Losing my grandsons was the hardest thing I have ever had to go through. But knowing how our love never dies, are loved ones are really only a thought away. I just miss not being able to hug them. As Ever, Grandma Loretta
 
Hi Loretta,


First of all, i'm very sorry for your loss. I don't know what to say, but i wanted to say something. Thank you very much for allowing Jesse's story to be told here in the forum.


I've been thinking about all of this over the last few days, and i've been trying to put myself in yours, or Terri's, or any of your family's situation, and i can only begin to imagine how it must feel. Losing Tommy and Rocky, and then having Tommy return to you as Jesse must have put you on a rollercoaster of emotions, desperately unhappy and elated, both at the same time?


When Jesse came into your life, and you discovered that he was Tommy reborn, did that ease your pain very much? When you look at Jesse now, do you see him as his own person? an individual? Or do you find it difficult not to think of him as Tommy? Do you still feel that you have lost Tommy? I can't imagine how it must feel to be grieving for a loved one, when, in a way, he is still with you physically.


Either way, you are blessed to have Jesse with you now, and i hope he brings you and your family the happiness that you deserve, and i hope that maybe Rocky will also one day find his way back to you....when he's ready... ;)


Thanks again for sharing.


Chris
 
Hi Chris,


To answer your questions, first nothing can ease the pain, there is not a day that I don't think of my Grandsons Rocky & Tommy, but Jesse is still Jesse, he looks nothing like Tommy, all though he walks like him acts like him and is funny like Tom, always cracking jokes, and no child can replace another, Jesse is here to finish what he didn't do before. He now tells me that he does remember that he was Tommy. This surprised me, I didn't know that he new this. He astonishes me at times. He is wise beyond his years. As far as Rocky coming back, I don't think so, he told us that is why he gave us his daughter, Michaela, and yes in a way it does help to have them with us. Michaela is so much like Rocky too. Well I hope I cleared up a few things. Grandma Loretta
 
Hi Loretta,


I am curious; exactly what was the very first thing that happened that caused you and Terri to take notice and begin to even think - that Jesse was Tommy?
 
Jesse's Story


Hi Deborah, I'm not really sure but I do believe it was when he was looking for his Chevy, or Tommy's Chevy Car, and he showed us where he had parked it. But Terri's Memory is much better that mine, I will have to ask her. At the time when he was telling us all of this, so much came out at once, I'm not sure if we can really pin point it. I might find and ans. in my notes. I will let you know. Loretta
 
Deborah said:
Hi Loretta,
I am curious; exactly what was the very first thing that happened that caused you and Terri to take notice and begin to even think - that Jesse was Tommy?
Deborah, I have talked with Terri and she said that she isn't sure what the first thing Jesse said, but I do believe that I wrote everything down in the order that it was said. Everything that he did remember and relate to us was all very important. Because we did remember his life as Tommy, Talk to you soon. Loretta
 
This story is an amazing one about same family reincarnation. I hope people take the time to read it in the archives. It won't be on TV or in a book - because they do not want to go public with it. Which is quite understandable. However, they have allowed us to share it on the forum. For which we are grateful.


Thank you Terry and Loretta.
 
I have only recently found this site, I have yet to even post but after reading, and crying, through this thread I felt I needed to.


Thank you so much for posting this experience, I am so incredibly sorry for your family's loss, and really appreciate that you are able to share your incredible story with us.


The 9/11 baby thread and this one have really blown my mind, I admit I have been a skeptic regarding reincarnation although my gut always told me it was true. This site has changed my mind, I'm incredibly curious and excited to learn more.


Thank you again Loretta, and best wishes to your family, my heart goes out to you.


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Welcome ladonnacuriosa. :)


I'm glad that you enjoyed the story - they are certainly a wonderful family to share it with us.


I hope you enjoy the forum - make yourself at home. :D


Aili
 
Hello Ladonnacuriosa and welcome to the forum. :)


I'm glad this forum and these exceptional stories have broaden your mind. I hope you'll learn a lot browsing through the site. Please read through our FAQ section, and I also recommend the section of Books and links about reincarnation, if you want to find something good to read.


Enjoy and feel free to participate. :thumbsup:


Karoliina
 
Jesse's Story


To Loriegram and other members –


I just found this website after doing a google search on “Carol Bowman”. I’m reading “Children’s Past Lives” for the third time. I have continually sought “validation” for my belief that Life Continues After Death With Memories Intact so I was enthralled to read the case studies posted here. They were incredibly interesting until I came upon Jesse’s story. Still somewhat skeptical, I thought that I should certainly be able to find some validation of a crash involving five young men, two of them named Tommy and Rocky. After searching some other databases to try and confirm some of the facts of the accident, I was slapped in the face with the realization that this crash that occurred was not only legitimate, but that it occurred in MY home town. I remember reading it in the local paper.


[Lorigram, my Dad still lives in the development that is down the road, on route 146, from the police station where the vehicle was towed to. My Dad’s neighborhood is backed up to the runway of the local Air National Guard airport. I just put this out there so that you know, for real, that I am from your town.]


But more importantly, I wanted to post this because I questioned the validity of the story and circumstances (always the skeptic) only to find that the local newspaper was not only MY local newspaper, but mentioned that Tommy was “remembered as a mechanical genius who looked forward to getting his driver's license”. I can’t validate what has happened with Jesse, but I can validate the existence of Tommy and Rocky, and the many kids that attended memorials for all five young men. Validating the existence of the previous “entities” seems to be part of the process of validating the possibility of past lives for me. And I just got knocked off my feet!


This “slap in the face” has put a jolt in my developing understanding of our “life cycle”. It truly seems to be a cycle, based on Loretta’s story of her grandchildren. But this story not only struck nerves, it empirically struck home.


Loretta, thank you so much for sharing your family and story with others. Tommy/Jesse have given you such a blessing and you have been so kind to share that blessing with others.
 
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