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Will my baby's soul return to our family?

Wendy25

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My son passed away 10 days ago. Three days after he died I had this overwhelming sensation that he is to return to us. On the same day my mum's tree which she planted 20yrs ago flowered for the first time ever, my timer in my shower dropped to the ground 3 times (which it had never done before), and I started my first period since my son was conceived. Later that day my sister brought over her angel cards for me. I closed my eyes and passed my left hand over the cards a few times. My ring finger stopped and touched a card - it was the soul mate card. All these signs came to me in one day. The next day I had a massage and 'rayki'. During this I had 2 visions. The first was a young man, tall and straight at the top of a hill, wearing old fashioned clothes, with an old fashioned woollen peaked cap, and he was holding a brown case. He was happy and and wanted to go home. He started walking and then the hill disappeared and he was walking in complete black, but he was still ok. Then the massage therapist asked me to visualize the Arch Angels Ariel and Michael. I saw them above me, while I was laying down. Then I saw a bright white light over my stomache that diffused outwards. The light then changed into an orb, and the angels were around the orb, with their hands out to hold it without touching it, the angels were circling me slowly. The orb then changed into a baby - bright white, with gold outline. The angel in purple was holding the baby in his arms, and was slowing moving upwards - I wanted the baby, so he came back down and the baby turned back into an orb, then back into the bright white light over my stomach. I told my mum about my visions and she told me the man on the hill was my Dad's father, and that was his favourite place, and he did carry a brown leather case many, many years before I ever knew him. As for the angels and the light turning into a baby, I hope that this means my son's soul will return to us soon. He was only 1 year and 19 days old, and I strongly feel that his purpose in life has not been completed. I pray that his soul will return to us soon. Are these signs that I have been given, or am I still in shock from my painful loss?
 
Welcome to the forum Wendy.


Have you read Carol Bowman's second book Return From Heaven? There are cases in the book that talk about children returning. Also Jesses' case in the children's section might be of interest to you.


I am so sorry for your loss. Words can not express adequately so here's a hug. hug2.gif. The light in your visions is very interesting to me. Are you doing any work through the grieving process? Is someone helping you? Can we recommend someone? Please let us know.


With love and light


......
 
Hi Wendy, welcome to the forum.


I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. The signs you described sounded a bit overwhelming, but there are many cases of children who have departed at a young age reuniting with the same family again, and I don't think the shock of your loss would cause the physical signs that you noted. I think you would take a lot of comfort out of reading Carol's second book: Return From Heaven: Beloved Relatives Reincarnated Within Your Family


Do you have any thoughts about seeing your grandfather in the visions? My first impression after reading your post was that maybe he and your son were the same soul?


Whether or not your son does return to you, you can rest assured that this is not the end for him, but the beginning of a new chapter in his souls' journey. I sincerely hope you do get to see him again, please let us know if you have any updates ;)


Chris hug2.gif
 
Welcome Wendy,


My heartfelt condolences on the loss of your son. hug2.gif Deborah's links are both wonderful resources, and in addition I'd also like to recommend On Children and Death by Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross. It's a wonderful book for parents coping with the grieving process.


I would also recommend keeping a journal of these experiences. Perhaps buy a special new diary to record things for yourself, share your feelings and thoughts. Writing is wonderfully cathartic and healing.


Many Blessings to you and your family,


Aili
 
Hello Wendy,


I'm very sorry for your loss.


Here's another book you may find comforting while dealing with your pain. It's about all types of after-death communications and contains many accounts of people who believed they have been contacted by lost loved ones through dreams or visions.


Your experience reminds me of the ones discussed in this book.


It's especially helpful for bereaved parents.


It gave me some peace when I lost my mother.


All the best.


purple


"HELLO FROM HEAVEN" by Bill and Judy GUGGENHEIM
 
Goodmorning Wendy...


There are no words to express the loss of a child. My sorrow over the death of my first child still goes with me today, after almost 25 years. I shed a tear for you and would like to tell you that less then a year later my daughter (who is 24 now) was born. When she was about seven or eight, I felt it was time to tell her that she was not my first, but my second child. I started to cry when telling her this story, and she said to me, " Don't be sad mama, I came back to you!" She said it as a matter-of-fact, turned around and started playing again, as if it was the most normal thing in the world. These words have helped me over the years (although the pain of lossing my baby is still embedded in my soul)...I hope they bring a bit of sunlight in your day!
 
My son's funeral


Firstly I would like to thank everyone who has sent me a message to my post about the death of my little boy, it means a lot to me. Yesterday was my son's little funeral. There were so many people who attended that they had to add an extra 50 chairs to the room, and there were still people standing as there were no chairs left. Before the service we were given the opportunity to say goodbye, touch him and give him a kiss. As a family we put in some special things into his coffin for his journey. These items we have not and will not tell anyone what they were. This is because if his soul returns to us, no one can accidently tell him or talk about it and he over hears it and then starts to mention it as if it were his own memories. After the beautiful service, we all went into the lounge for tea and coffee, and this man came straight up to me and said, 'Wendy, something big will come out of this, mark my words, something big. I will tell you later.' And then he walked away. In my hour of great heart-wrenching grief, a stranger came to me and give me a tiny glimmer of hope. My husband and I have talked and we want to try for another baby when our bodies have had some time to heal. Should our son's soul return to us in a new body, I will be the first to shout the news from the roof-tops, and I won't care if people think I'm crazy. Prayers for our son have been spread throughout Australia and even in a small church overseas. The magnitude of his death just amazes me. Another strange coincidence or possibly sign, is the story on YouTube about the 'Pollock family', who's two girls were killed in a car accident. Mr John Pollock told his wife that the girls would return and that she would have twins. Mrs Pollock did have twin girls, and the girls had marks on their bodies from the previous girls and knew about landmarks in the town they used to live in. The strange thing with me, is that the day of my son's death notice in our paper, a Mr David John Pollok passed away as well. The difference is his surname was spelt without the 'c', but his middle name was John, which was the man's name in the YouTube video. Is that just an amazing coincidence, or maybe another sign to me? I hope it is a sign.
 
Re: John Pollock


Here's an interesting coincidence I thought I'd share with everyone ... note that I'm the one that sent Wendy that youtube link ... and the personage who prompted me to join this forum was born "John Paul."
 
Messages for me from the dead?


About a week after my son died, I was in my bathroom praying for strength for my family and understanding, plus I also asked God to look after my son, and if he saw fit to return his soul back to our family. After my prayer I walked over to the sink to wash my hands, when a sudden all over body coldness came over me. I was shaking uncontrollably, my teeth were chattering and I couldn't stop it. I called out to my deceased son and asked if he was ok. The shivering continued for a good 5 minutes or more. I was getting ready to see my chiropractor, so I had to try and stop the shakes. The strange thing is we are in the middle of Summer at the moment, it is really hot here, so I couldn't understand why I was suddenly freezing. My husband drove me to the chiro and my hands were clenched the whole way. I stopped clenching my hands and I looked down at them. I said my hands are so cold. My husband grabbed my hand, and was shocked to feel how cold they were. They felt as if I was holding something very cold. It is so hot here, I'm wearing summer clothes, it was a warm day - why was I so cold? This morning I was laying in bed, my husband got up, went to our bathroom washed his face, brushed his teeth and went to our gym room, which is a complete separate building to our house. A half an hour later (I know because I saw the time), I rewoke to a bang sound, then a smell came into my bedroom. My nose is half blocked, but I could smell the smell very clearly. It was a cross between a body power and a perfume, but not a perfume. I spoke to my husband and asked him what he put on himself when he was in the bathroom a half and hour before. He said nothing. Not hair gel, body lotion, deodorant, nothing. He said he just brushed his teeth. I rang my Mum and told her what had happened, she asked me to describe the smell to her. Afterwards she said, that's my Mum, your Nana. She used to use this special powder as a deodorant many years ago. First I have a vision of my Dad's father, and now I believe I smelt my Mum's mother. Am I being silly, it is just grief, or are these signs for me to say they are here watching over my family?
 
I am very sorry for loss, Wendy, I can't even begin to imagine what that must feel like. *hugs*


And as for the signs you mention, I don't think it is silly at all. I believe that before our souls reincarnate again their spirits watch over us. I know that has happened before with members of my family, especially with my grandmother. When her father died his spirit came to "see" her, and to this day he will sometimes come and talk with her.


I suspect, though, that physically showing themselves is incredibly difficult, so little signs that you mention are probably their way of communicating with you, of comforting you and letting you know that they are there.
 
I also think it's possible to have this kind of messages from the other side, and now, considering your situation, I'm sure you are very sensitive to them.


Wishing you all the best,


Karoliina
 
Hi Wendy,


Here is a website that you might find helpful in your time of grief. There is also a forum there for grieving parents like yourself, I hope it helps.


Chris hug2.gif
 
Visions and voices - what do they mean


Tuesday morning I woke early, I knew that I had another 30 minutes before I had to get up and start the day for my children. So I decided to ask my angels to give me guidance. Over and over again I asked in my head, I ask for guidance from my angels, I ask for guidance from my angels. My body began to feel really heavy (I find it very hard to meditate, I can usually only do it if someone talks me through), the words I was chanting became softer and more in the back ground. All of a sudden I could hear the words, 'You are pregnant'. The words were clear and precise, and adimate, and it was a voice that I didn't recognise. I jumped up from my meditative state. I looked at the time, I had been meditating for 15 minutes. I decided to lay back down one more time before getting up, and this time I decided to ask my angels if my son's soul would return to us as a family. I thought that I was pushing it a little, but I decided that one more time, it wouldn't hurt. Again I chanted in my head, I ask my angels if my son's soul would be returned to us in a form of a new baby - something along those lines. Once again, my body began to feel very heavy. Then I could see my favourite picture of my son. He was in his little red and blue car that he loved. I looked up and saw in the picture my mother-in-laws arm. That's the only part of the picture that I hate, and it's her arm. (she's not a nice person). Then all of a sudden, it wasn't a picture anymore because my son was moving his little car towards me. Now my son was 4 days off turning one, when that picture was taken by me, and he couldn't move the car forward, only push with his legs to make it go in reverse. But in my vision he was coming towards me. His beautiful big smile on his face, I felt happy. Then he became blurry, his face and body, but the car and the surroundings were all in focus. His hair got a little darker too. Then my son who was now fuzzy, got out of the car and moved towards me. He then began to grow, he got bigger and bigger. I then stood up. He was now a young man (late teens - early 20's), but he was still fuzzy. I woke then with a jolt. It was now time to get up. Both times I was meditating for 15 minutes, but it only felt like 1 or 2 minutes. I told my husband what I saw, and then I raced in side to ring my Mum. As I was speaking to me Mum, my computer flashed a picture of my son when he was first born, still at the hospital. His hair was dark brown. I had forgotten how dark his hair was, because when he passed he was a golden blonde. The brown hair was the same colour in my vision when he became fuzzy. I also had a weird head for at least a half an hour after hearing the voice - you are pregnant. I heard the voice at the left side of my head, up the top, and that's where my head felt weird afterwards. I know I am not pregnant at the moment, because my husband and I are getting ourselves healthy again, so that when we try, we will be giving the new baby the best start in life. But this voice was so matter-of-fact in the way it spoke. Maybe it's telling me that a baby will be coming? As for the vision, I hope that my son's soul will return with this new child. I don't know. All I know is that I felt happy and at ease for the first time since his passing.
 
Wendy, I can't begin to imagine what you are going through now, as a mother of four. My deepest heartfelt condolances on your loss. I just wanted to share a little of my own experiences , with my own children.


WIth all 4 of my kids, (they are 22,14,7 & 2 1/2, the only girl is 14) I dreamed about them during my pregnancies, & before, and knew all 4 of their sex, looks,personalities, etc., beforehand. I have had many miscarriages, and all but the oldest son started in my womb, only to decide it wasn't their time, & came back again later.


For instance, w/ my 7 year old son I had many,many dreams about this adorable little blond haired, blue eyed boy ,and also saw him on the stairs where we used to live, like an apparition. I told all my family,husband & friends about these odd dreams & visions, & decsribed him to a "T", to what he looked like once he was born. I miscarried a year before he was conceived, same month. I am positive he decided it wasn't "time" for him yet, & decided to postpone things awhile. Same thing happend w/ my 2 year old, who will be 3 in June.


I am convinced they came back from the miscarriages, so I see no reason a child couldn't decide to re-ener the family at a better time, to try to acomplish what they set forth to do at a better time. I am a firm believer that we tend to reincarnate w/ loved ones again & again, w/ "soul groups", & the like.


Best of luck & prayers to you, I hope you will find healing & peace in the days to come.
 
Dreams of babies before they are born!


Hi Kstornado11,


Thank you for your message. My Mum and I dream about babys alot too. When I dream about a baby, it means that either I or someone close to me (in my circle at the time) will conceive within 6 months. Everytime I dream a baby, one definately is announced not long after. Before I became pregnant with my eldest son (who is now 10), I was lying in my bed and I felt a heavy weight at the end of the bed, I looked up and started talking, I thought it was my husband sitting on the end of the bed. No one was there, but the pressure still remained. A few months before I became pregnant with my daughter (4 nearly 5), I heard a little voice call out Mummy.


My son was at preschool and I was home alone. Then before I became pregnant with my second son (the baby who passed away), I heard a little voice call out Mummy once again. I also had dreams that I was pregnant as well with each of the children. Once I had a dream that I had to help deliver twins for a woman who was a complete stranger. I told a women who was pregnant about my dream, and said that maybe she is carrying twins, a few weeks later at her ultrasound she found out she was indeed carrying twins. About 6 months before my son passed away, I had a dream that my sister was having a horrible miscarriage, and I was trying to help her, but I knew deep down there was nothing I could do.


I had this dream twice and I told her about it. I told her I know the person isn't you, I have just dreamt her to represent someone, but I don't know who that person is. I knew it definitely wasn't going to be her, because she has two children and doesn't want anymore. A week or so later I had a dream that I was told that I was pregnant with twins. I was a little frightened at the thought of carrying twins. A night or two later I had another dream, but this time I was in the third trimester of my pregnancy and very happy. These dreams occurred about 9 or more months ago now, and no one that I know has had a miscarriage, and no one is pregnant.


I look back on these dreams now, and I that maybe they were a message for me, that the miscarriage was a warning that my son will die, and the twins could represent his return to earth for the second time, and the final dream of being happy and pregnant, well that's what I want for my future now. At the time of the dream, we were not thinking about another child at all. Since my son's passing I have received so many signs, and now the signs are getting more and more frequent. I am receiving at least six signs a week, nearly one everyday. I had to start writing them down because there are so many of them and it would be easy to forget them.


Thank you for telling me that sometimes the souls aren't quite ready to be here with us, that they need a little more time. I think that you are right. I too had two miscarriages just before my daughter, both of which died at 8 weeks and then I got pregnant immediately with my daughter - it was the longest pregnancy in history, but I would do it all over again just to have my beautiful little girl. And that's how I feel about my son, I don't enjoy the last few months of pregnancy, and the labour is not fun either, but I will do it in a heartbeat to hold my precious little boy again! :angel:
 
HI Wendy,


I want to thank you for your posts and for being so open about your son and his passing. My heart goes out to you. I am sure - your thoughts and experiences have touched many. Often guests read but don't post. Your brave heart - and loving nature is commendable.


I wish nothing but happiness for you, and a knowing - that your son will be with you again in the future.
 
Wendy, to the best of what I have learned, if his intention was to be with you, he WILL come back to you, and much sooner than you can even imagine.


Have faith, and believe in it. He will be back sooner than you expect. And will very probably give you several indications, when he does, that this is true...
 
Hi Charles Stuart,


Thank you for your words. You have no idea how much I needed a lift today. I took my daughter to kindergym this morning and there were so many babies in the class, I had to keep my eyes focused on my daughter just to get through. The receptionist also spoke with me for the first time and told me how sorry she was. Finally when the lesson was over I drove home and went upstairs to my baby's bedroom and cried. After reading your words, it has given me some strength to go on.


I would also like to thank everyone for their kind words in this thread. It's so wonderful that there are people from all over the world who generally want to offer thier words of wisdom and support. I just hope that one day I can return the favour. This is truly a wonderful website because it has given me more support and hope than any of my friends. Thank you!
 
Hi Wendy,


This is just to let you know that more of us are following your progress than you may be aware; and that our prayers and thoughts are always with you. The fact that you are continuing to check in from time to time is certainly indicative that you are aware of our constant interest.


I don't think that any of us would expect your grief to abate with time, even with reassurances that your son will return. And, even when he does return to you; there may still be at least some small measure of doubt that it really is him. But, if you continue to stay in touch with all of us; you can be certain that we'll continue to provide whatever support and encouragement that is possible.


At the same time, I will hope that you'll have the time to read whatever is available on the subject nearest to your heart -- the return of loved ones to the same family. Have you had a chance, yet, to read Carol Bowman's book, "Return From Heaven: Beloved Relatives Reincarnated Within Your Family"? As Charles indicated, it is very likely that your son will return to you. However, you'll also need to have this hope reinforced by reading similar cases along these lines.


Godspeed and best wishes,


-Nightrain
 
Hi Nightrain,


I actually ordered Carol's book - Return from Heaven and it only just arrived by mail 2 days ago. I am about half way through it. Unfortunatley I have to stop and put it down to attend to the children and the days activities, but whenever I get a spare 30 minutes I find a comfy spot and settle down with her book.


It is a fabulous book, and there is one story in particular that has really touched me - the little boy named James who passed away at the age of two. As I am a mother who has also lost my son, this lady's story has touched my heart in a way that no words from my friends could ever reach, and for that I would like to extend my deepest thanks to Carol for writing such a beautiful book.


Thank you everyone for your suggestions, and if you know of any other of Carol's books which you feel would be good for me to read, please feel free to contact me. As I have mentioned before, I have received more support and kind words from people on this forum, whom I have never met, than from my friends. Don't get me wrong, my family has been truly supportive of me, and my Mum and sisters feel that my son Bryce will also return, but I can't discuss my feelings with my friends, and that is why this forum is such a wonderful, and very much needed website.:thumbsup:
 
Hi Wendy :)


I'm glad that you're enjoying Carol's book, and I hope that you're finding some comfort in her words.


There is another book: Children's Past Lives: How Past Life Memories Affect Your Child. Whether or not your children are showing any signs of remembering a past life themselves, it's still a very good read, and who knows, you may need it for future reference ;)


I'm glad that the forum is helping you through this difficult time a little bit, please continue to let us know how you're getting on won't you?


Chris hug2.gif
 
Dreams - messages that come true


About four or five months before my son passed away, I was constantly getting dreams about fish in tanks. Each time I dreamt of the fish they were in someone elses house. One of the times I was in my Nana's house who had passed away. In each of my dreams there were many, many fish in the tanks, and I was very concerned that they weren't fed, and I felt as is they were dying. I remember that I would run and trying and feed them. Sometimes the fish would jump out of their tanks, and I would be struggling to put them back into the bowl.


I spoke with a woman who says she can see people who have passed over, and that she has many spiritual guides including an Egyptian one. I asked her what the dream meant about all the fish. She wouldn't let me finish telling her about the dreams, she just told me that I was a caring mother, and that it was my nurturing side. I told her that I didn't think that was what the dreams were telling me.


We have just returned from holidays as a family yesterday, and my daughter asked me to get some paints for her to do a painting. While I was looking for the paints I found a dream book I forgot that I had. I looked up the word 'fish'. The meaning for fish dreams is death of a close family member. I feel sick now. I was given many warnings of Bryce's death, and I didn't listen or understand my dreams. The other dream warning I was given was the horrible miscarriage my sister was having, and I was trying to help her. Again, I didn't understand my dream. I spoke about both of these dreams to people, but no one knew what they meant.


One thing is for certain, I will never under-estimate the power of my dreams again. Someone, whether it be a guardian angel, or a passed loved one sends me messages in my dreams sometimes, and I will always take them seriously from now on. My only concern is that I may need to find someone who can decifer dreams properly, because I do not want to go through another tragedy again.


Has anyone else had dreams that have come true? Does anyone know of someone to contact who can read dream messages?
 
Hi Wendy :)


I'm a bit skeptical of dream books to be honest as their scope is very limited. I think a dream about a certain object or animal can have different meanings for different people depending on their life circumstances. If you Google 'fish dreams', you'll find that there are many different interpretations, and not all of them are bad, how would you know which of those interpretations apply to you at any given time? Do you really believe that things could have been different if you had paid more attention to those dreams? How could you possibly foresee such a tragedy in that way?
 
Hi Wendy,


Sometimes it does happen that a Soul/Spirit may wish to incarnate into a family but, for no fault of its own, and certainly not that of anyone else's, its "physical body" fails. It is certainly not the "Soul's" fault. And it is most certainly not anyone else's, much less yours. So don't do this to yourself...


I know that you are grieving. It is a fundamental aspect of the process. For what comfort I can try to offer you, I do truly believe, and this is reinforced in all of Spirituality, that when a Soul is intended to come, should it fail, for any reason, it WILL attempt again...


So take heart, and have faith!!! And don't go around trying to find with others the answer for what, truly, is within yourself...
 
Hi Chris,


You're right. I googled fish dreams, and yes there are many different meanings for the dream. Actually most of them are about good things which will probably happen, rather than bad.


To answer your question, could things have been different if I had paid more attention to my dreams and how could I possibly foresee such a tragedy in that way. Well, the answer is I really don't know - it would depend on whether I was told that the dreams meant that someone from my immediate family would die soon from drowning - I would then have changed a lot of things to prevent that from happening. But I was never given that information, and I will never truly know exactly what I would have done. I would hope that I would have made more of an effort, and been more attentive.


I guess we all have that 'gut feeling' sometimes in our lives. You know the feeling that we all get that something is not right, that we shouldn't go that way, or do that because we feel that something will go wrong. Sometimes we listen to our feelings and everything is ok, and other times we don't and something goes wrong, and then we look back and say, I knew I shouldn't have done that, I had this bad feeling. Well that is how I feel about my dreams - I need to listen to them, but they are not always easy to decifer and that what makes things difficult.


But I understand what you are saying, each dream and each person is different, and we can't pidgeon hole all the dreams in one meaning, so there will be times, we will not know the answer until it is too late. I just hope that through all this I get a better understanding to what my dreams actually mean.
 
Charles Stuart said:
For what comfort I can try to offer you, I do truly believe, and this is reinforced in all of Spirituality, that when a Soul is intended to come, should it fail, for any reason, it WILL attempt again...


So take heart, and have faith!!! And don't go around trying to find with others the answer for what, truly, is within yourself...
Hi Charles,


Thank you, thank you, thank you! - especially for your last sentence. I really needed to hear that!
 
And the grief WILL pass...!!!


Can I share with you what I know, that there are nurseries in the Spiritual Realms, and that one of the things that some of the Spirits do is take care of the kids who pass away so young? It's TRUE!!! :) ;)
 
It's late here at my corner of the world, and after a very long week I'm going to take a good rest. I suggest you do the same, ok? :)
 
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