Reincarnation and ADOPTION

I am a true beliver in past lives.
I am in the process of adopting a child. We have not been matched with a child yet but was wondering if it is possibe for someone in my family to return to us by the way of adoption . To give you alitte back ground my dad is adopted and had me and my 3 brothers with my mom. My point being is that I am not adopted. I was very close to my bio-grandma on my moms side. just wondering if it is possibe for my grandma to come back to me as my child? MY grandma past away in 1990. Any info would be great.
Thank you

Welcome!

Souls returning to loved ones can just as easily get there thru family adoption as non-adoption. I am adopted and have known my family many, many times. My brother was adopted too and in fact this is the second time in a row for him that he has had our mom as his "adopted" mom.
If it is meant to be, your grandma *can* come back to you. However, God the Universe works in many ways and what or whom you find may be just as wondrous even if the baby hadn't been your Grandma.

Light!,

DJ

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Dear kagc34
This actually happened to me, the opposite way... Two kids stepped into my life asking me if I'd be their father, what they are now. After some years, I remembered a life we all had in Bavaria, circa 1500. I was their father and we were farmers. I remember the face the youngest had, and that the eldest became a priest. That's all. Today he hates anything related to Catholic church, and I believe something awful happened to him that time.
They are full grown-ups now, and their presence filled my life with light.
All the best,

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Stil

Yes, a familiar soul can return by way of adoption. We have a really good case that demonstrates dramatically that it is possible. We didn't put it in Return from Heaven because we didn't have room for it.

Nothing stops a determined soul.

Steve


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Steve Bowman
Webmaster, www.childpastlives.org

Hi thanks to everyone who has responded to this post. It is nice to know I am not nuts in believing in past lives. I know know for sure When we do adopt a baby I will pay really close attention to what my baby has to say and all of the other signs from Carol's book. I jusy love to read everyones post of pastlives.

Steve I would also love to hear the story about adoption and pastlife you talked about. Please post it if you get time.
Again thank you all.

In regards to adoption and past lives, I have a story.
I have an adopted sister who is also the younger half sister of my adopted brother. The only reason my parents adopted her is that Social Services called when she was born to ask if we would take a sibling a full year after the adoption of my brother. We have a family friend who is also adopted.
One day during lunch when my sister was about 5 or 6 she said, "I don't want to have any children". She has a large number of chronic illnesses and has spent most of her life in hospitals. I reasoned that she did not want to have children because her own childhood was so uncomfortable, but I asked her why she would say that. Her answer was a long and frightening story about when she was a grown-up and had a baby named Andrew. She said that my brother (her half- brother and my adopted brother) and our family friend (who my Parents met by chance in a terrific Snowstorm in Canada... quite the story)"wore dresses" which I take to mean that they were female in that incarnation, and that on one occasion they had all been out walking in the woods and had come accross a bear who chased them up the tree and killed the baby. She gave a very graphic description of how the bear ate (she did say it ate him) the child and concluded that that was why she would never have another baby.
It is interesting to note that while she really loves small children she still insists at the age of 17 that she will never have any of her own. None of these people live or communicate with their birth families, but have very strong bonds with their adoptive families(for our family friend it is his personally adopted family, not his actual adoptive family, or his birth family). So they found each other despite circumstances.

Hi,
I am adopted also. I could never have chosen better parents. I met my biological parents
and it just didn't feel right. I feel i truly had a connection with my parents who adopted me. I can say at a very young age though i knew that the location we lived in, which was the desert (las Vegas) never felt right. in fact i ran away to calif. wherre it was greener and had the ocean. Soon after meeting my biological parents i was told they were from cape cod and thats where i was conceived.

Do adopted children have their parents' same life themes?

I read the other day that adopted children have their adoptive parents' same unresolved spiritual issues. I have no problem understanding that we were drawn together to resolve our past life karma but I am terrified of sharing the same issues and pray it isn't true. I can deal with the fact that I contracted this current life but it would break my heart to think my little girl would "choose" such a minefield. What are everyone's thoughts about this?

Thanks for any and all input:

Annabel

ps: I adopted her from Russia and she is almost the spitting image of me. She is such a blessing to me.

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Dear Annabel,

My wife and I also adopted a child two years ago and this son of ours is very similar to my wife both physically and psychically. When my wife did a regression some time after the adoption, she learnt that she and our adopted son were very close enemies to one another in a previous life. Not only they were close, but they also did hurt one another a lot in that life.

Most people that become physically close to us during a certain life are spirits that have issues to resolve with us. There is nothing wrong about that. God is so loving and indulgent that we have infinite lives to repair our wrongdoings and each life is a new opportunity for us to do so.

We never chose how our lives will be all by ourselves. Our guides almost always plan our lives. Since they love us dearly, they allow us to make some choices but they would never allow us to have a life useless for our evolution. In some cases, discarnate spirits are so disturbed that they cannot use their will power and so their reincarnation is completely planned by their guides.

If your adopted son accepted to be born within a certain family and then be adopted by another one, it means that he had issues to resolve with both families. Our adopted son was born from a very poor couple that lived in the streets in a tiny town in the south of Brazil. His biological father is an alcohol addict and violent man and they kept having children and loosing them to the children authorities due to his violence and to the couple’s lack of living conditions. He is our dear son now and we love him as much as we love our other two sons, both born from us. We are certain, nevertheless, that his biological parents are resolving some kind of serious issue from previous lives, having so many children and loosing them. Our adopted son, on the other hand, certainly had something to do with that issue, either as an actor or as a victim.

Please change your mind about your “dear little girl”. Instead of being sad for her having “chosen such a minefield”, rejoice for her having been able to either repair or help someone to repair a previous wrongdoing. Besides that, thank God for His having given you an opportunity to repair previous wrongdoings between the two of you. Love this child as her dear mother because there is no harm, no wrongdoing, and no negative issue that love cannot heal for good.

Much Peace,

Renato

Dear Renato,

Thank you for your reply. I do adore my little girl and have no doubts we were "intended" to be together. I realize we will have karmic "issues" to work out and I have no fear of this. My worry was that she might have chosen to be "a whipping girl" as I must have this time around. I'm not bemoaning my circumstances...I believe I contracted this and must have deeply hurt many lives in another lifetime. I know that I am blessed and she is incredible. I am not sad. I merely hope she does not have my same "theme". Regardless, I shall be here for her.

It is nice to talk to other adoptive parents. Your son is very lucky to have parents who incorporate reincarnation beliefs into the rest of the picture. You will be able to help him so much further than just stopping with the nature vs nurture issues. I admire that you adopted a child who wasn't an infant.

My little girl was 7 months old when I got her and what little info. I got is about her birth mother, only. We had no problems attaching nor bonding and I know how very lucky I am. I have no doubt that she is my child regardless that she had a different birth mother.

I was also adopting a 4 year old in a different part of Russia, but the adoption fell through a week before I was going over to get both girls. I know now that God has a master plan and was telling me I was biting off more than I could chew (I'm a single mother). I'll never get Katya out of my mind though. The adoption agency's story changed everytime I talked with them. All I can do is either pray that Katya was adopted by a special family or that she is in God's hands. The video I have of her showed bruises all over her body and around her throat. I don't think she is alive. You obviously know how agencies work, so I shall never know the truth until I die. Even if she and I never physically met, I know there was an important meaning to this and I shall always hold a special spot for her in my heart.

Anyhow, being a new member, I screwed up and posted this first in the past life regression forum. The forum administrators have been very kind and informative about my worry. I feel much better having "talked" to all of you about this. Now if I can just be of "guidance" for my little one through her life, I shall feel much better. Thank all of you for your replies. I am so looking forward to being a member of this wonderful site. Blessings to all (and many hugs and kisses to your son):

Annabel

Dear Annabel,

Adoption in Brazil is organized by the local judicial authorities and according to federal laws. Even when the children are in an orphanage, their adoption follows specific laws and conditions and only a judge can allow a couple to adopt a child. I presume you had to use an international agency because you wanted to adopt a child from a foreign country. Although I don’t know Russian’s laws about adoption, maybe there are Russian local authorities in charge of Katya who know about her.

If you have no means to contact local people in charge of Katya, keep praying for her and visualizing her during your meditations or prayers. You know well that she as any other child is a child of God and that we, their parents, are no more than people in charge of them while they are incarnate. Our duty is to love them and help them to evolve. As to what will happen to them, this depends solely on their evolution needs and on their use of free will.

Much Peace,

Renato

Adopted children

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum. I read "Children's past lives" and am halfway through "Return from Heaven". My question is regarding adopting children. My husband and I are seriously considering adopting a child, and I am wondering whether adopted children can return to a family when they are not biologically related to them.
I have heard of adopted children who say they have been associated with his/her
parent(s) in a previous life (a friend of mine's adopted girl insisted they were sisters "before"), but, are there any cases of children who are adopted by a family in another city or country, who claim to be the reincarnation of a deceased member of the present adoptive parents?
Thanks for your response!

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DSA

Welcome miniwheatfreak,

LOLO Love your name. I am soooooo tired..but I know somewhere -- long lost in the strings of threads here --there was another post about adoption. Only I cannot find it. But I will keep looking. I think you would enjoy reading it.

I do not think there are any rules as far as reincarnation is concerned..and of course..an adopted child can be just as close to you, and be in a soul group with you --as if you have carried them for nine months.

Still digging around and I'll post it if I find it.


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Love and Light,
Deborah

Lifes experiences weave a tapestry of knowledge




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I remember that in a past life I had an adopted daughter who was my biological daughter in many many lives before that and she remembered that.

Thank you all for your replies! I read the threads and they provide great insight.
By the way, a couple years ago I went for regression therapy and "saw" myself as a woman in a previous life in England who had a girl she absolutely adored. The lady who was doing the regression told me, as she had done when I had "seen" other lifetimes, to look at this girl into her eyes and tell her what came to mind. I immediately began crying and sobbing! It was the strongest emotional reaction during that specific regression session. When the lady doing the regression asked me what was going on, I told her I was getting a message saying "this is your child...the child who's coming back to you in this lifetime."
My husband and I cannot have children of our own, but at least knowing there's a soul somewhere waiting to be born to us...is just mind-blowing. By the way, I was told that the child was named Aimeé (with the French pronunciation) in that lifetime.

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DSA

Hi Miniwheatfreak

What a great story…thank you so much for sharing…you certainly must have been very touched and emotional – what an experience and validation!!!




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Lots of Love
Kelly

There has been alot of discussion about adoption and reincarnation lately, I am glad I found this thread too. What a powerful experience!

Marg

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Motherhood is living in a state of perpetual exhaustion and bliss. And knowing your work is never ever ever ever done. LOL!

Past Life of Adopted Child

I have a 5 yr old daughter who is very social and knows no stranger. She's confident and from an very early age spoke clearly with a huge vocabulary. One of the things I always admired about her was that she had no fear. She is adopted. We did an open adoption and have been a part of my daughter's life since she was only a few months old in her birthmother's tummy. In reading the other messages here, I can relate to knowing that this child was mine as soon as I looked into her birthmother's eyes actually. When she was born, it was as if I had carried this child myself - I knew her to depths of our souls. To this day, my daughter and I are extremely close. When she turned 5 she started having trouble sleeping in her bed or being in her bedroom by herself. She had never had trouble before. Now she wakes up with nightmares quite often. She also doesn't like to be in her room even in the daytime by herself. She tells me she is afraid that we are going to leave her. I'm torn between this being a past life possibility or does it relate to the adoption.

She does know that she was adopted. She actually told me that she had another mother at about 1-1/2 yrs. Long before we had talked to her about it.

She also doesn't have imaginary friends, but rather friends that are people either I knew or she knew who have past away. Especially her great grandparents.

I am looking for some feedback. I have always had a belief myself that I have seen this world before, but I have been brought up in a conservative Christian faith that doesn't believe in past lives. What would be the best place to start to either draw out her past life?

One other thing that is definite with my daughter is that she will speak to me about everything. Her feelings, her thoughts, her dreams, etc. But she will not speak to anyone else about them. She protects who she shares her intimate thoughts with, and she will get upset if she overhears me discussing it with a friend.

Any insight that you could share with me would be appreciated. Both on her fear of being left and your thought on past lives and how it relates to adopted kids.
Thanks!

Hi Trisha!
A couple of days ago I tried to explain to a friend of mine that adopting a child is among the most loving things you can do in this world.

I read a book called Life before life of Helen Wambach. She has hypnotised 750 grown-ups who remember their birth and how they choose their present life. Some of these persons were adopted. They all had diferent stories, but most of the adopted persons rember having shared past lives with their adopted parents and not with their biological parents. Fore some people it was the opposite, but this was more common.

I remeber that my stepfather once was my son and we liked each other from the start. I think that you and your daughter probably know each other from an earlier life.

Carol's book Children's Past Lives has a chapter about children with nightmares which has comes from past life memories. I think that her book could help you to help your daughter with her nightmares. Both books are very interesting.

I'm not adopted, but during a period when I was an infant I couldn't live with my parents and this has given me fears of being left, so I think that your daughters fears can come both from being adopted and from past lives. Sometimes we put our selves into similar situations as we did in earlier lives and this makes the fear even stronger. You seem to be a wonderful loving mother so you can probably help her to get owr hear fear whatever the reason is.

I'm sure all parents here have loads of good advice and stories to share with you.

Veronica

Thank you for your help! I will check out both of the books and just keep talking to her.

Thanks,
Trish

Reincarnation in Adoption

This is what made me a believer in reincarnation. After living with my fiance for about 5 years (he is Druze and believes in reincarnation) - I was open to considering it.

I am a caseworker for an adoption agency. About 8 months ago an (Caucasian) adoptive parent came into the agency with her 2 year old African American son whom she adopted as an infant through our agency. We were all joking about how when she came to the agency she was only open to adopting a caucasian newborn and here she was - as a master at African American hair care. She told us that the reason why they hesitated about adopting an AA infant was that her father was very against them adopting outside of their race. I asked her what changed his mind? And she said, nothing, that he passed away 3 days before they adopted their son (who was three days old when they adopted him). They had called the day before they got him (it was a last minute case for the agency - we heard about the newborn when he was 3 days old being discharged) and told the agency they want to adopt an infant of any race.

That same day, in another conversation, this adoptive mother (who does not believe in reincarnation) was telling another caseworker how perfectly her son fits into their family. She said that he reminds them so much of her father, even though he is adopted. She told the caseworker about a "weird thing Nathan said the other day..." .... this is the story.....

When her father died he asked to be buried with a small watch box that he had all his life. She always loved that watch box and decided to keep it instead of burying him with it, to remember him by it. Nathan saw it on her dresser (he is 2 years old) and said to her "That's mine!" She said, "no that was grandpa's." Nathan got very mad at her and said, "That is mine and you were not supposed to have it. I wanted to have it forever."

Now... this is a 2 year old who doesn't really talk in full sentances like that (his mother says that he does when he is angry). I told her that I thought her son was reincarned as her father -- she thought that was funny. Anyway, it made a believer out of me.

The Druze believe that everyone will be reincarnated to learn life lessons that they must learn. I believe that this soul needed to learn the lesson about racism.

Sara

Welcome to the forum, Sara. What a great story! It is really interesting that you have spent a lot of time in the Druze culture and that you are now marrying into the culture. It must really change the way you look at things like the story you just mentioned.
I hope you find lots to read and discuss on the forum. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the warm welcome Liz.

I am just sorry I didn't find this site earlier!!

Sara

Hi Urriegrl and welcome to the forum! That's a terrific story you shared about the little boy and his adopted mother's father. Makes you wonder how the boy knew the significance of that watchbox.

Assuming you told your fiance this story and given that he is Druze, what did he think of it? Did he feel the older man had been reincarnated as the adopted boy?

Aimee

Aimee,

My fiance was raised to believe that people are reincarnated into their own groups and families. That the love and devotion that their family feels for them is what "keeps" them in the family (the soul doesn't want to wander). However - he has changed on this issue slightly, in that he believes that the person doesn't HAVE to share the same biology in every life.

The Druze in Lebanon tend to believe that someone can jump families for a good reason, but rare. Like there is an old story told in the Batroun hometown in Mount Lebanon that speaks of a man who hated his neighbor and burned their house down. The owner of the burned house then killed that man (eye for an eye culture) and he shouldn't have done that because that man was then born his child. But, in general they believe this is a rare case.

After telling him this story, Ahmed just laughed (not in disbelief at all, more so laughing at me because I was just starting to realize what he had known all his life) and responded "God works in incredible ways. Serves that guy right." Ahmed doesn't get as excitied as I do when he hears stories of reincarnation, but he was raised on them as "this is just the way the world works." But, to answer your question, yes, he believes that the boy is his adoptive grandfather.

Ahmed (and I) also believes that my cousin is my grandfather. But that story is for another time and equally amazing... I'm at work and have to run! LOL

Sara

Thats a great story Sara...

I wanted to ask a question that applies to adoption because my brother in law and his wife adopted 2 children from Guatemala.

Actually 2 questions... the boy (not sure about the girl) is of Mayan decent. Would he be biologically more prone (so to speak) to having psychic or majical abilities?

I wonder this because he has said things about having majic in his body. And that said, I'm not to sure how mom and dad feel about reincarnation, but I want somehow to suggest they read Childs Past Lives... and suggestions of how to make that suggestion?

thanks

Lauren,

Thanks for the reply.

To attempt to answer your question, I am not sure I truly understand what you mean. I don't really tend to believe that certain groups of people are more prone to "special" abilities over others. I don't really see how a Mayan child would have more ability of a psychic nature just based on his biological make-up. My understanding (or belief I should say) in reincarnation is not really based in pyschic or magical purpose - rather more like the true cycle of life. I do believe, however, that it may just be a child's interpretation that his "old soul" in his new body feels something "magical" to him. I am not saying that is what he means, I do not truly know what the child means (or it maybe just playful of him), just it would be one of my thoughts.

I would just give his parents a copy of the book as a gift maybe with a letter stating that you read it and found it so interesting. I don't think there is a way (or a need really) to convince someone to believe in reincarnation (or any other belief system), but if they are open to the idea, then they will read the book.

Good luck with that Lauren! Let me know if you make progress in this area.

Sara

Sara; I did what you suggested, and stuck a note in my copy of the book for them to borrow. I got a phone message of great appreciation from my sister in law who said that she plans to read it after she finishes 2 other books. So, thanks for the encouragement