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Ancient Egyptian Spirit

Deborah

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I am wondering if any members would like to share memories of spiritual experiences in Ancient Egypt. There are a lot of books about Ancient Egypt; Egyptologists continue to study the Great Pyramid and thousands of years of a culture and society that lasted longer than even modern times. A fascinating subject. I have always liked Gregg Braden's books and although they are not based on physical evidence the way an archaeologist for Egyptologist might be, I still think his books are interesting and I find personal value in them.

One of the things he suggests is that within The Great Pyramid the magnetics drop to almost Zero in the top chamber. He said the spiritual journey (ritual) began with the chamber (below ground level) where initiates would enter "the Pit" also referred to as the Dark Light Chamber. There they would embrace their worst fears and enter the "Dark Night of the Soul."

The goal in this first step is to arrive at the realization that no matter what comes to you, no matter what you face, no matter how devastating a situation, you are still intact. There can be no fear if the fear is given no power upon which to feed.

Following the process and completing of this first step -initiates would move into the Queens Chamber in the middle of the pyramid to demonstrate their ability to BALANCE the polarities of Dark and Light. They would have to "hold that balance" for an unspecified period of time.

After successfully facing their fears in the lower chamber -the challenge is to not overcompensate by moving exclusively into the Light. With the reminder that you are always LIVING in a polarity experience and must EMBRACE both experiences without judgment in order for "change" to be balanced and mastery attained.

After this process -- the initiate would "advance" into the uppermost chamber -called the King's Chamber. It is within this chamber that the final stage of initiation would be completed.

He notes that within the tuned resonant cavity of the Chamber of Light, measurements of Earth's magnetics drop to nearly ZERO. In historical times the area inside of the chamber provided an environment that was unavailable outside the cavity. Today, some are suggesting that Earth is moving toward an identical environment that was modeled in the chamber YEARS AGO - low magnetics.

I am curious if anyone has memories of this process or a process from Ancient Egypt that was meant to bring the soul through initiation. I have a few I can share but I would love to read others experiences. ;)
 

crystal_44

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Well, what I remember is pretty fuzzy, but I remember enough to know that there was definitely something spiritual about ancient Egypt. I don't want to say exactly what I recall because I don't quite understand it myself. Let's just say, it was supernatural, no doubt about it.

;)

I do remember being in the inner sanctum of a temple, although which one, I can't be sure. It's difficult for me to accurately describe this experience. It was during the middle of the day, but as I made my way into the heart of the temple, it got darker and darker. The last thing I remember is the doors being closed behind me, shutting out the sunlight, and how very still and quiet it was. The place really had a unique energy.
 

Deborah

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Hi Crystal_44,


Thank you for sharing. I love the feeling of an ancient culture; especially the feeling within the rituals and ceremonies. Do you think you were getting ready for a ceremony or ritual? Or were you going through training? Do you get a sense of why you were going down the tunnel into darkness?


Beyond who we were in a past life, I am interesting in hearing about the rituals - and for this thread specifically - the rituals a person remembers going through in Ancient Egypt. It was a society that lasted over 3,000 years. The first post was just a reference point for possibilities - rituals can include many things and I hope to hear more.
 

Eevee

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I think I once experienced a ritual in Ancient Egypt :

Two persons are holding me by my arms and dragging me into what looks like a cave. I am terrified….It feels like my feet refuse to take me any further. The men have to force me to proceed. I am sweating a lot, because I am so afraid.
The floor under my feet feels rocky, with sand on it. I can see paintings on the walls, at about eyehight.


The cave is narrow,like a long corridor, and I cannot see the end of it.


I am wearing something white, a sleeveless tunica. I can feel the pressure of the men’s hands on the skin of my arms. The arm-opening of my tunica is very wide, and it has a V-shaped neck-opening.


On my left upperarm I have a golden ornament, with 3 blue stones in it, one large in the middle and two smaller ones beside it. There is a snake symbol carved into the gold.


My hair feels funny. I am wearing a wig, Cleopatra style?
This was my first memory of this event, which came spontaneously. I wanted to explore this further, and did a meditation on it.

At the end of the cave, there is a small room. In the middle of it is a large black granite stone.
The men force me to lay down on the stone, and they go away.


Behind me, there is a source of light.


Suddenly, out of the dark corner of the room, a man comes toward me. He is wearing a wooden mask, with a layer of gold over it. There are openings for the eyes. The mask has very thick lips carved on it. On top of the mask I see the cow horns with the Sundisk between them, the symbol of the Goddess Hathor.


The man approaches me. He is holding a staff. He starts singing and shouting, with a very loud and deep voice. He makes movements over my body with the staff, I know this is a cleansing ceremony.


He orders me to stand up. I do so, and he starts making those movements again over my back side. He steps in front of me, and starts making signs as to order me to ‘go up’. His hands keep making upward movements. While doing this, he keeps singing, and suddenly I feel myself levitate….I scream….it is as if I can’t stop screaming…and with the screaming I see something like a black cloud coming out of my mouth…. I need to continue the scream till the black cloud left my mouth completely.


Then I am able to inhale again, and I feel myself going down, I feel the floor under my feet again.


I am sweating a lot. So is the priest. He stops singing, and I feel so relieved. He gently puts his arm around me and leads me out of the cave, while he talks friendly to me and pats me on my back. He has now taken off his mask. I can see he is bald.
Later I got another glimpse of this event :

I am sitting in a room with the priest. It is very hot there, it is a sweating room, for more cleansing.
In this life I was a wab, a part-time priest.I think the ritual was a preparation to make me a full-time priest. I was serving at the temple of Hathor, the cow Goddess. I don't know the exact location in Egypt.


Later I got another spontaneous memory about what preceeded this event :

I am cleaning the statue on the inside on the temple of the Goddess Hathor. It is a large black statue, with white horns and a golden Sundisk between them. The statue feels smooth, like it has a layer of polish over it. I am polishing it more, this is my daily task.
I take a soft linen piece of cloth and start rubbing the statue, while I am honouring Her in my prayers. The prayers bring me to an altered state of consciousness.


Suddenly – She starts talking to me. She reveals me Secret Knowledge – that I can not completely comprehend. She says: One needs Two to become Three, but needs Four to become One again.


I repeat this several times, and suddenly come to reality again. I am astonished with what I just experienced. I run out of the temple, and see the High Priest. Without thinking about the formal greetings, I tell him what happened : “She talked to me ! She found me worthy of Communication !’.


The priest gets an astonishing look on his face, and leads me out of the Temple.


‘Don’t talk to anyone about this !’, he orders me.


Still dazed with my experience I enter into the sunlight, and walk away from the Temple. I need some time on my own, and at the same time I get the feeling that my heart is squeezed, I am wondering if I did right to tell the High Priest about what happened. What influence will this have on my life?
Eevee
 

Amy

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What amazing experiences. I do not have any recall of a life as an egyptian. However, I do recall being a greek who was visiting Egypt. So I do not have any memories like any of you have experienced.


I am interested in reading what others have experienced. It is fascinating.:thumbsup:
 

Charles Stuart

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It's funny, but I also have no feelings of attachment to Ancient Egypt nor any "memories". It seems that in those days I was a Roman (in fact a Roman soldier). :rolleyes:
 

Eevee

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To extend my thoughts on rituals, I was thinking that the cleansing of the statue, which I described before, was also a ritual. It took some time, since it was a large statue, and the routine of doing this 3 times a day, might have taken me into an altered state of consciousness. Maybe that was (partly) the meaning of giving this task to a part-time priest, and when he had his 'vision' he was ready for the initiation to become a full-time priest, with more important responsibilities?


Another small ritual that I remember was in my other Egyptian life. I only lived to the age of 12 then, in the Royal Palace, but I remember that every morning we had to get up early to go to the Temple to pray and make offerings, before we could go attend our lessons. I can't recall what exactly those offerings were,but I know we had to go get them first at some other place before going to the temple. I suppose it is very well possible that it were food, herbs or flower offerings, and that the servants had them ready for us somewhere, so we only had to pick them up and take them to the Temple. I think that even though this was only a common practice, it can be labeled a ritual since it was performed every morning, without exception. :)


Eevee
 

Psyforce

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Eevee said:
Two persons are holding me by my arms and dragging me into what looks like a cave. I am terrified….It feels like my feet refuse to take me any further. The men have to force me to proceed. I am sweating a lot, because I am so afraid.
The floor under my feet feels rocky, with sand on it. I can see paintings on the walls, at about eyehight.


The cave is narrow,like a long corridor, and I cannot see the end of it.


I am wearing something white, a sleeveless tunica. I can feel the pressure of the men’s hands on the skin of my arms. The arm-opening of my tunica is very wide, and it has a V-shaped neck-opening.


On my left upperarm I have a golden ornament, with 3 blue stones in it, one large in the middle and two smaller ones beside it. There is a snake symbol carved into the gold.


My hair feels funny. I am wearing a wig, Cleopatra style?


Eevee
Hi Evee,


I had the same kind of dream...


I was like a tourist in a different world...I was on a market...unlike the markets I've experienced in Europe. There were carpets, and baskets, clay pottery, sheep and colorfull textiles. I was so amazed...I could not understand the people there. Suddenly I was grabbed by two man in black-robes. As they dragged me accross this market...An old lady shouted at me "Maktoeb, Maktoeb!" I did not understand her. I tried to look back...and again she shouted: "Maktoeb, Maktoeb!"


The two man took me to an almost square-looking builing. It was dark inside, but I could see a massive stone table and two huge vases. Suddenly everything turned dark...and I woke up.


I wondered what this language was...I thought it could be Hebrew or something. So I "carefully" asked some Jewish friends...since I did not know if it was cursing or not... They didn't know the word. Years later I discussed this dream with a Turkish friend, and asked him if he knew what it meant. He told me "Maktoeb" means "The letter...It is written, but also...It is your destiny!" So it is Turkish...I replied! "No, it's Arab!" he said. He explained to me that in Arab-counties it is often said....your destiny is written on your forehead!


Now why would I have a dream in a language that I don't understand! And there are many Arab-speaking countries! Until one day I went to the National Museum for Antiquities (Leiden) here in the Netherlands. As I walked into the museum there was this huge replicated building in the main hall...the same building as in my dream. It was an ancient Egyptian temple! Next I saw the huge vases I had also seen in my dream. And I recognized other items aswell...I could even tell that two descriptions archeologists made of items were not right! (I should have told the museum personell, but at the time I did know who would believe me...a simple visitor...telling experts they are wrong about these two items? Am I crazy? ) Don't ask me how I knew!


But I still doubt the fact that the arab-word "Maktoeb" was also used in approx. 2500-3000 BC.


That still puzzels me!:confused:


But being taken to a dark place by two men...in Egypt...that is something we have in common! :D
 

Deborah

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Very interesting dream Psyforce. The most telling is the word used..the fact that it makes sense - and that you had no way of knowing the meaning.


Have you ever done a regression or meditation around the Memory/Dream?


Also, don't feel funny about knowing that the guides in the museum were wrong. I can relate to that - and if you watch archaeological studies and findings...they change all the time and you might be surprised to someday see...you were right after all. ;)


Eevee and Psyforce..I think you both were in Egypt after I was....3500BC.
 

Eevee

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I could place one of my Egyptian PL's (the one where I died as a 12 year old) in the last period of the 17th Dynasty, 1550 BC I think. It is possible the other life was even later....I don't know if it was really Hathor that I was serving, or Isis in her Cow form. If I could determine that, I would have more clues about a possible time period. PeterV once suggested that male priests are also a sign of a later period.
 

Psyforce

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Deborah said:
Very interesting dream Psyforce. The most telling is the word used..the fact that it makes sense - and that you had no way of knowing the meaning.
Have you ever done a regression or meditation around the Memory/Dream?


Also, don't feel funny about knowing that the guides in the museum were wrong. I can relate to that - and if you watch archaeological studies and findings...they change all the time and you might be surprised to someday see...you were right after all. ;)


Eevee and Psyforce..I think you both were in Egypt after I was....3500BC.
Hi Deborah,


I'm not sure about the "timeframe", but looking at the items in the museum....it could be approx. 3000 BC. I realy don't know much about ancient Egypt.


I have no clue on who or where exactly I was. Do you know if the word "Maktoeb" is also used in Hieroglyphics? Maybe "Toeb-Mak"....


I have tried regression once...but I got to an other story....Not Egypt.
 

Deborah

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A few things of interest:


Al-Kemi means "Pharaonic Egypt."

Priests who served gods, kings and queens were called hem-neter priests (God's servants). Those in the cults of non-royal and private persons were called hem-ka (Ka servants). The cults of both royal and private persons also demanded the services of the we'b priests (purificators). We'b priests served the king during his lifetime, and the title was common among physicians. - From our resident Egyptologist PeterV
My research suggests that the Egyptians called their 'genesis' Zep Tepi... or The First Time. Zep means TIME -- Tepi means FIRST. But they suggest that TEPI has other connotations, the basic meaning of the word Tep is mouth, and fundamentally meant 'The beginning or commencement of anything."


Since you seem to be interested in Quantum Physics: it suggests TIME - and SPACE are but an illusion. The rites and rituals of ancient Egypt repeatedly speak of the "opening of the mouth," -- this was the breaking away of the illusion.


The initiates and the Pharaohs were able to travel to the FIRST TIME. They knew how to experience non-locality, instantaneously.


As a side note - In India, the practice of yoga also talks about the "opening of the mouth" leading toward higher states of consciousness, and the breaking away of the illusion of time and space.


Is it possible you heard merkaba? I am not familiar with your term - perhaps some else is. ;) As far as "your destiny is written on your forehead" - well - I think the information about Zep Tepi might be useful a little. : angel
 

Psyforce

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Deborah said:
A few things of interest:
Al-Kemi means "Pharaonic Egypt."


My research suggests that the Egyptians called their 'genesis' Zep Tepi... or The First Time. Zep means TIME -- Tepi means FIRST. But they suggest that TEPI has other connotations, the basic meaning of the word Tep is mouth, and fundamentally meant 'The beginning or commencement of anything."


Since you seem to be interested in Quantum Physics: it suggests TIME - and SPACE are but an illusion. The rites and rituals of ancient Egypt repeatedly speak of the "opening of the mouth," -- this was the breaking away of the illusion.


The initiates and the Pharaohs were able to travel to the FIRST TIME. They knew how to experience non-locality, instantaneously.
Thank you Deborah!


I don't know how...but I think you just made me solve this puzzle....


As they never used vowels in writing ....(Maktoeb...it is written.)


"MAKTUB" KTB or Katab (he wrote), Katib (writer) and that's Ancient Egyptian!


Thank you! NFR :)


As for: "Time and space are just an illusion." All of my "weird" experiences seem to confirm that...It's just my rational thinking that wants to know ...how that can be!


In my experiences...I can be here and now...and see the past and the future...and what is happening now in another place!!! So I can be everywere and here at the same time! That is not possible according to normal laws of physics!


But I can prove that the things I have experienced realy happend in the past or will happen in the future or are happening now! Yet, nobody can give me a scientific explanation for what is happening to me!:eek:


So...according to the Egyptians...I've opend my mouth to wide! Perhaps ...I'd better try to shut my mouth for a while! :rolleyes: :laugh:


B.T.W. Al-Kemi sound a lot like Alchemy ;)
 

Yellow Roses

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I have several very distinct memories of ancient Egypt, but not of specific ceremonies or rituals, though I'm sure because of my position I must have experienced them. Ancient Egyptian memories were the first ones that came to me, spontaneously and quite vividly, when I was 7-8 years old. My birthday is February 28, Egyptian independence day.
 

Sunniva

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It's a very interesting thread. I enjoyed reading along :)


Deborah, you promised to share some of your memories here? I'm very curious to hear them if you still want to (knowing you're really busy right now :) ).


Personally I don't have any memories of ancient Egypt as of yet unfortunately so I can't share anything relevant.


However, I was wondering about language as I read along. Psyforce dreamt a word in Arab and a bell rang for me. Didn't they speak koptic (sp?) in Ancient Egypt, which is not an Arab language, but Indo European? It wasn't until much later that they adopted Arab as far as I know (I'm really not sure - it's just something I think I've heard in class:eek:). Anyway, it could give a more precise date of that past life if I'm right.


:)
 

crystal_44

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Yep, the language that the Coptic Christians speak today (Coptic) is directly derived from the language the ancient Egyptians spoke. It's not entirely the same, as the language has changed a lot over the years, but it's close enough.

:)

Does anyone remember anything about priests or priestesses wearing masks to perform rituals? I do know that during mummification, a priest wore the mask of Anubis as part of the ritual, although I don't remember that exact ritual. It's a bit vague, but I recall something about a priestess wearing the mask of Bastet. Any ideas?
 

Deborah

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HI Crystal,


There is a book titled Shamanic Wisdom in the Pyramid Texts, by Jeremy Naydler that speaks in depth about the rituals and customs of ancient Egypt. It's a very difficult read but very thorough and contains a lot of research and scientific reflections.

Does anyone remember anything about priests or priestesses wearing masks to perform rituals?
Masks were worn during the rituals and I have seen them. So sure Sunniva; In a meditation in 1992:

I am quiet, I feel an inner reverence for being, the vibration of sound and silence. I hear drum and flute music and people chanting. I can see a man wearing a mask who seems to be taking part in a ceremony. He is wearing the black head of Anubis. I can also see another man wearing a mask with the head of Horus in Gold.
The room is filled with people, movement and music. I am aware of many large plumed feathers, and I dance. There is a man who seems to be one of the head men in the ceremony, he is bowing down to a Pharaoh who is wearing only a loin cloth and a head dress.


I looked down at the floor and I can see it is constructed of a beautiful stone. It seems to be alabaster which is light in color with darker marbling through it. I feel a sense of being very humble, and very honored to be in this place. It seems to be a special time for mankind.
I also had an experience in 1993 that reflected the burial of a Pharoah.

I moved to when I was attending a Pharaohs funeral/burial. I was looking at the sarcophagus with the mummy inside. There was another man in a leopard skin who was performing a ceremonial ritual over the dead Pharaoh. There was no sorrow or grief here, but instead -- a sense of a more joyous "movement."
 

Peter V

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I am cleaning the statue on the inside on the temple of the Goddess Hathor. It is a large black statue, with white horns and a golden Sundisk between them. The statue feels smooth, like it has a layer of polish over it. I am polishing it more, this is my daily task.
That is consistent with the daily practices of the priests in any of the temples. The statues, which they believed were the living images of the gods, were washed, fed, and clothed every morning. There were three classes of priests, only one of which performed this ritual.
 

Reynardine

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What an intereresting coincidence - I read about that earlier today, too. The book I read also said they used three different kinds of incense for those ceremonies, one was reserved for the morning, the other for midday and the last for the evening. Do you remember something like that as well, Eevee?
 

Eevee

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I don't remember using different types of incense, but I do remember that for every cleaning a new, clean piece of cloth was used. :)
 

Reynardine

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Okay - maybe things were slightly different at your temple. But the bit about using a new cloth for every cleaning is interesting, of course only that would be appropriate for such an important task! ;)
 

arg

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This is fairly off topic, but not really. I've heard some really heated debates over internet forums on the genetic makeup of ancient Egyptians prior to the Ptolemic (Greek) dynasty. Mainly there are the Afrocentrist who contend that the people were of a darker skin -- whereas the other half claimed they were fairer skinned and closer to being Caucasoid. I think it was a combination of the two since Egypt connects Africa to the Arabic lands, which would allow for a diverse intermingling of people. Those of you that have memories of ancient Egypt do you recall the physical appearance of a typical ancient Egyptian? :confused:
 

Karoliina

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I have had only one memory flash of what I think was ancient Egypt, and in it there were three black people, and I believe they were pretty "high rank". Viziers, probably. It could've been geographically closet to ancient Sudan, too, though.


But from what I've read, I'm sure there were a lot of people of both African and Mediterranean descent.


If you want to continue more general discussion of Ancient Egypt (instead of the spiritual topics this thread is about), I suggest you write in this thread. :thumbsup:


Karoliina
 

lagrima

It wasn't MPD after all!
I do have memories in Egypt. I have not shared them because I have a keen sense that they were highly secrative and I believe I was a high priestess of sorts. They are of ceremonies and I will tell a little bit here notwithstanding the odd and strange feeling that I shouldn't.


1. I am a very old lady in a long robe very high up on a pyramid instructing a much younger girl to work with light and energy. We finish and I begin to walk down stairs that are carved into the pyramid walls- like a step pyramid a la donkey kong... lol She wants to help me but I make it on my own.


2. It is late in the evening and I am in a room with a vaulted ceiling. In that vaulted ceiling there is a opening and the light of the moon cuts through the darkness and into the room. Directly under the "moonroof" opening is a slab table fairly close to the floor. A man comes in and I tell him to lie on the table so that he will will be bathed in the moonlight. I cover him with a cloth. There is a group of people behind me watching/learning. I feel I am their teacher. Everyone is silent. I go over to another table and retrieve some bowls with an odd curvation around the edges.


I then begin to dance, chant and move the bowls in circles passing them from hand to hand while spinning them with the movements of my dance- i can feel the energy from the dance and the movement of the bowls- it is incredible. I do this around the man lying on the slab bathed in the moonlight.

arg said:
This is fairly off topic, but not really. I've heard some really heated debates over internet forums on the genetic makeup of ancient Egyptians prior to the Ptolemic (Greek) dynasty. Mainly there are the Afrocentrist who contend that the people were of Negroid origin whereas the other half claimed they were fairer skinned and closer to being Caucasoid. I think it was a combination of the two since Egypt connects Africa to the Arabic lands, which would allow for a diverse intermingling of people. Those of you that have memories of ancient Egypt do you recall the physical appearance of a typical ancient Egyptian? :confused:
I do have one experience seeing someone and if I saw them today with my own reference I would think they were African. But the skin was not dark black like we sometimes associate with Africa today. It was like a very dark golden brown. Truly stunning.
 

crystal_44

Crystal
I remember a mix of races. Some people were dark skinned, like people from the Middle East today, and others were fairer, although they still had a pretty nice sun tan. :tongue: There have been mummies found with naturally blonde and red hair, and in fact, Rameses II was known to have red hair. These are distinctly European features, so I'd say it's safe to say that Egypt was a bit of a melting pot.
 

arg

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Thanks guys, fascinating observations. I had a feeling that Egypt was a melting put of people. I don't know why it's so important for some people to make them fit into a nicely discernible racial mold. If you want to move this thread go ahead, but my curiosity has been satisfied unless there's someone that would like to add something.:thumbsup:
 

Deborah

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Hi Angela,


Thanks for sharing the ceremony! A beautiful recollection of another time and place. The book I mentioned about Shamanic Wisdom - goes into depth and detail for ancient Egyptian ceremonies. It's a difficult read - but you might enjoy it to validate your own experiences. I know I did. :)

I am a very old lady in a long robe very high up on a pyramid instructing a much younger girl to work with light and energy.
Such an important component light and energy --- if only people knew more about it now and how to work with it in today's world.
 

vanhalen50one50

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Some info about the ceremonies I found interesting....

Ancient Healing Techniques by Douglas De Long said:
In the ancient mystery schools and healing temples that existed throughout Egypt thousands of years ago, advanced initiates or students took part in a special rite or initiation. This was called the "final initiation" and was performed by the High Priest of each respective school. For the fortunate students, this secret ceremony was conducted inside the Great Pyramid... known as the King's Chamber... (page 9)
The final initiation took place at midnight and was performed by the High Priest and advanced students together. All of them gathered in the central reception chamber beneath the Great Sphinx. (page 10)


A deep breathing exercise prepared everyone for initiation. Once the exercise was completed, all the students allowed themselves to enter into a relaxed, meditative state of consciousness. It was at this point that the spiritual teacher commenced with the ritual. This involved the chanting or toning of a special, powerful word. The initiates started to chant as well. The Final Initiation lasted for about ten minutes. (page 11)
 

lagrima

It wasn't MPD after all!
:thumbsup:Thank you VanHalen- That could be the source of my memory- it matches up pretty closely!


COOL!
 
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