I'm going to be frank, although I may appear to be otherwise. Here is what I would seriously consider a VERIFIED past life account. And although there are many books and other material out there, which have laid out cases that many accept as verified past life accounts, I say that they are all too weak to make the case with the skeptics and cynics of reincarnation. There are too many claiming to have objective evidence, such as some who are posting here, but in reality it's just subjective. Although we do have some very good cases where the evidence may really seem to be strong, as far as being objective. No doubt that Dr. Stevenson's work can be classed second to none, when it comes to objective evidence. Our very own gracious host, Carol Bowman, and her work, is in the same ballpark with Dr. Stevenson, and Dr. Tucker, Stevenson's disciple continuing the work, being the one to hold the same seat at the same university as Dr. Stevenson, U of Virginia. I would say that these mentioned, along with others not mentioned, who are presenting cases to the general public, where objective evidence is claimed, or assumed objective, seem to be making little impact with those who are generally skeptics, when it comes to reincarnation. In this last I have to agree with
@ssake, who believes that his case, if verified and accepted by academia, will be that one world-shattering reincarnation case that would overcome this great wall of skeptics opposing reincarnation, since those before him made little progress, as he also stated.
I'm certain that a few skeptics have been won over by the great work put forth by our champions, as mentioned above, who march forth with an unspoken mission, but still carrying the flag of reincarnation nonetheless. Their biggest victories have been with those that have a strong tendency for believing in the supernatural, and specifically, the biggest victories are over those that have had some type of memory/feelings of having lived before. Obviously, there is also evidence that some of us may be living this life, which is under the influence of a previous one, as then Karma comes into the picture. And there is some evidence that perhaps some of our current medical ills may be due to some incident that may have occurred in a previous life. Therefore, we have some physicians who are treating some patients based on what may be a previous life root cause.
Now, these medical cases, at least those declared cured, may be good candidates for these "verified" past life accounts which this thread was searching for. But we must remember that even these medical cases are subject to close scrutiny, and unfortunately, since these cases are nearly, entirely connected to psychological trauma, and therefore mental, it's nearly impossible to, objectively, establish if the root cause of the medical conditions really existed due to a past life trauma. And even the cure cannot be objectively shown that it was accomplished by bringing forth, usually through hypnosis/regression, a more complete memory/feeling of the past life event believed to have caused the problem, which is said to be the key for the cure. In other words, for the patient to understand why, as for example, they have a phobia of water, can be explained by a past life event, where death occurred by drowning. This better understanding and the bringing out, from a deeper subconscious memory, the past life drowning, and face it, brings forth the cure of the phobia for water. Unfortunately, only the patient is privy to what is and what is not part of their imagination. But this does not exclude the reality that indeed a cure was accomplished. If the patient is cured of the phobia, the cure has occurred, as seen whenever the patient can be near, or in the water, and not suffer high anxiety, or panic attacks, which previously occurred. Those who know the patient well, and have witnessed the patient's behavior around water, before and after the cure, provide the objective evidence as far as the phobia itself, but it's not objective evidence when it comes to reincarnation itself. Because, as we know, cures do happen spontaneously, and the placebo effect is known to cure even physical diseases. And we also have those claimed miracle cures through prayers and meditation to think about.
Before I get too lost myself in this "ocean of words" I'm posting, as the ancient wise would term the use of many words by the sophists, who made a living with the twisting and stretching the words, so as to mean anything they wanted the words to say, What I'm getting at is that we don't have any real objective evidence of a verified past life account. And in a nutshell, I'm looking for the objective evidence that will totally bring down that giant wall of skeptics, and thereby, win the battle of evermore, the one winning over every skeptic and cynic of reincarnation. How and where are we to look to find this ONE VERIFIED PAST LIFE account?
I believe I have touched upon this before. What amazes me is that many accounts of past lives give a period of "between lives" where the soul/consciousness spends time in the astral realm, as some call it. In this realm there is supposed to be a council that is dedicated with the soul's learning lessons on earth, so as to spiritually progress. Now this is an interesting concept because it implies some planning and knowledge of "future" events by the council. Because if the soul's schooling/training is scheduled around some specific situations that will provide the training, the grounds for developing these skills/knowledge, they have to be under control and have to be made available to the student soul. For instance, using Karma in this example, if a soul has committed a murder in a previous life, and it needs to experience being murdered in a future life, those future conditions have to be known before the soul can be put in a situation where the life in which it has to experience being murdered can be ascertained that it will occur. In other words, the future has to be known before the soul takes on that particular life where it will suffer the fate of being murdered. Therefore, what I'm getting at is this. Objective evidence of a past life that would "knock our socks off", as some say, is the same one that has been talked about for millenniums. Using a religious reference, once Moses was asked by some of his skeptical follower in the desert, "how can we tell a true prophet from a false one?" Keeping in mind that these skeptics must have been eyewitness to the parting of the waters, all the plagues of Egypt, the receiving of the, six days a week, manna from heaven, the pillars of fire, and all the rest, they were still skeptics. Moses reply to these skeptics on true prophecy was that old line pass; if it comes to pass, then the prophet whom prophesied is a true one, one that comes in God's name to bring the future news.
Why don't we have any of those that claim to have objective evidence of having been in the astral realm between lives on earth, or that they easily communicate with others in that realm beyond the physical senses, bring us foolproof objective evidence of a verified past life, so that those foolish skeptics and cynics of reincarnation come to know the truth of reincarnation? To use a poor and foolish analogy, will all the skeptics of there being a hell only accept that there is a hell only if they find themselves in hell itself? Not that I believe in a real hell, as I was using it only to make the point. In other words, as it stands today, there is not one, or more, cases of verified past lives, when it comes to reincarnation, for those who have never seen the astral realm, or remember ever having lived another life, other than this one.
Therefore, what's the point that Dr. Stevenson, and all other proponents of there being evidence of reincarnation want to make? To inform who? And why? Is there a universal message about reincarnation that needs to be passed on to mankind? And if that is the more likely scope, why do we need to be convinced? I do not mean "we" as us here, who are, apparently, already convinced. Why do we seek for "verified" past life accounts?
Why on earth do we have people that believe that they have a special earthly mission of converting non-believers into "reincarnationists"? Are we, those of us that want to convert the reincarnation non-believers, like the Jesuit order, out to convert the world to Catholicism? Yes, I'm coming out of the closet. I'm definitely one of those that, subjectively, believes I have been assigned a mission, one which has been assigned from the highest level of the astral realm, no less. But, I'm grounded enough to realize that I have only subjective and conjectural evidence to go by. Unlike others' claims, I have only material that is speculative in nature.
In other words, my VERIFIED actual past life account is engulfed in the realm of 3 words, and the meaning of these three.
1. Possible refers to something that exists and may or may not be proven.
2. Plausible refers to something that is reasonable or valid.
3. Probable means the something could exist/happen but until now it hasn’t been proved/found.
Plato's Atlantis is something that
Possibly exists, but may or may not be proven.
Plato's Atlantis is
Plausible because it is reasonable, and also valid, because the story is full of reason, and it's valid because within the story there is a valid
FUTURE Warning.
Plato's Atlantis is that
Probable something that can exist, although until now it hasn't been proved to exist, because it hasn't been found.
I would shout out to anyone who will listen, GET YOUR MOTOR RUNNING!
