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Could Reincartation Explain Why Some are LGBT

GalaxyDreamer90

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I'm suddenly curious if reincarnation could explain people that are LGBT. It seems like a possible explanation to me. A person could of had a past life as the opposite gender then in current life because of that has attraction to the same sex. However I'm not sure if this explains people who are asexual and those people do exist. Perhaps asexual people are those who were sexually abused in past life or even in current life. I can't really say because I'm not asexual or even LGBT. Anyway what are your guys thoughts. Just kind of wondering why some people might be LGBT especially since I just found out a cousin of mine is Bi
 
I think in a very broad general way, it is possible that past lives could be behind lbgt "issues".

However, there are so many mitigating factors it's impossible to say with any certainty how much of a role that plays in them.
 
Hi Galaxy,

I think so, at least in some cases. You might like to read this article from the Psi Encyclopedia (which has a lot of information in terms of reincarnation research):


Cordially,
S&S
 
Interesting read, S&S, I took a quick scan and I'll read it later.

I was male the last time around, after having had a long succession of female lives. Bit by bit I get more information. What I do know is that I probably overcompensated or that I had just decided to live the full experience as a male. I did boxing for example. In my current life, I've always detested this kind of sport (two people willing to hurt each other hard, just for fun) but when I tap into the snippets from that past life, I understand the charm and the good feeling around this sport. Probably one of the coaches from that time is one of my spirit guides in this life.
As far as I know, I was a 'real man', boxing, big car, going to the army, good looking wife, and I know, just know, that deep down in my former self I knew then that something was 'off' with me, something that I suppressed successfully. I experienced the scene when my male former self suddenly realized he had been female before. That was a soul shock and might have led him to his death but I still need to find out a lot.
I've had talks with my female friend who remembers that she easily changed between male and female in her history and it doesn't bother her at all. Her conclusion is that it might be more problematic when you just change once in a while. When you have built up a male or female mindset for many lives, a change of sex might be more difficult to adapt to.
I think overcompensating is a strategy too and no one will ever know what's happening inside of the person.
 
Interesting read, S&S, I took a quick scan and I'll read it later.

I was male the last time around, after having had a long succession of female lives. Bit by bit I get more information. What I do know is that I probably overcompensated or that I had just decided to live the full experience as a male. I did boxing for example. In my current life, I've always detested this kind of sport (two people willing to hurt each other hard, just for fun) but when I tap into the snippets from that past life, I understand the charm and the good feeling around this sport. Probably one of the coaches from that time is one of my spirit guides in this life.
As far as I know, I was a 'real man', boxing, big car, going to the army, good looking wife, and I know, just know, that deep down in my former self I knew then that something was 'off' with me, something that I suppressed successfully. I experienced the scene when my male former self suddenly realized he had been female before. That was a soul shock and might have led him to his death but I still need to find out a lot.
I've had talks with my female friend who remembers that she easily changed between male and female in her history and it doesn't bother her at all. Her conclusion is that it might be more problematic when you just change once in a while. When you have built up a male or female mindset for many lives, a change of sex might be more difficult to adapt to.
I think overcompensating is a strategy too and no one will ever know what's happening inside of the person.
Interesting that you should mention boxing. Although I am female in this life and that I can remember I was female in past life I have always had an interest in martial arts including boxing which isn't considered very feminine. Could be the fact that I apparently come from military family and my dad served the country but my dad had long been honorably discharged by the time I was born. Even though I'm straight I've always been a bit of a tomboy. Apparently everyone has a little bit of a masculine side and feminine side. I think this might be because of the soul not really having a gender though it might prefer to reincarnate as either male or female in most lifetimes.
 
I'm suddenly curious if reincarnation could explain people that are LGBT. It seems like a possible explanation to me. A person could of had a past life as the opposite gender then in current life because of that has attraction to the same sex. However I'm not sure if this explains people who are asexual and those people do exist. Perhaps asexual people are those who were sexually abused in past life or even in current life. I can't really say because I'm not asexual or even LGBT. Anyway what are your guys thoughts. Just kind of wondering why some people might be LGBT especially since I just found out a cousin of mine is Bi
GalaxyDreamer, Nice profile name by the way! As soul we have no gender. We are gender neutral in soul consciousness with a balance of positive and negative polarity of consciousness. We only experience gender when we reincarnate here in the physical because this is the world of duality. I am a gay male in this lifetime. However, what I have discovered is that I am experiencing a gay lifetime not because I was female in my last life but rather to workout negative karmic debit. Although I have been both male and female in past lives. Most of us have as experiencing the opposite gender balances out souls' awareness and experiences as those soul lessons can only be experience in the opposite gender while on earth.

In a past life during the Middle Ages I was a member of the royal court. It was my job to find those that were homosexual and out them. Which usually ended with them being put to death. I found great pleasure in doing God's work. And this created negative Kamra as my intent was miss guided as I felt above others which comes from the lower ego. So, in this life I agreed on a soul level to become the very thing I hate the most so that I may learn unconditional love and understanding as all life is inner connected. So now my consciousness as soul has changed greatly.

As for asexuality, and transgender ect... these are souls that are usually more advanced spiritually that are experiencing life lessons of their own. But thru them living their lives here help change the global consciousness to higher levels of understanding and compassion for those that are different from others. Like everything else we must experience all that we can while on earth as the physical dimension is like a very large school for soul to receive its spiritual education. The physical only being elementary school from a soul's perspective.

Peace and love always...

P.
 
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GalaxyDreamer, Nice profile name by the way! As soul we have no gender. We are gender neutral in soul consciousness with a balance of positive and negative polarity of consciousness. We only experience gender when we reincarnate here in the physical because this is the world of duality. I am a gay male in this lifetime. However, what I have discovered is that I am experiencing a gay lifetime not because I was female in my last life but rather to workout negative karmic debit. Although I have been both male and female in past lives. Most of us have as experiencing the opposite gender balances out souls' awareness and experiences as those soul lessons can only be experience in the opposite gender while on earth.

In a past life during the Middle Ages I was a member of the royale court. It was my job to find those that were homosexual and out them. Which usually ended with them being put to death. I found great pleasure in doing God's work. And this created negative Kamra as my intent was miss guided as I felt above others which comes from the lower ego. So, in this life I agreed on a soul level to become the very thing I hate the most so that I may learn unconditional love and understanding as all life is inner connected. So now my consciousness as soul has changed greatly.

As for asexuality, and transgender ect... these are souls that are usually more advanced spiritually that are experiencing life lessons of their own. But thru them living their lives here help change the global consciousness to higher levels of understanding and compassion for those that are different from others. Like everything else we must experience all that we can while on earth as the physical dimension is like a very large school for soul to receive its spiritual education. The physical only being elementary school from a soul's perspective.

Peace and love always...

P.
Hi Polaris,

You continue to express your viewpoints re soul gender as raw fact rather than your opinion or as someone else's viewpoint/opinion. IMO, it would be clearer to those trying to sift through the material presented if you noted that what you have just said is part of the teachings of Eckankar or etc. I.e., it would be good if you indicated the source for the "data" presented.

Cordially,
S&S
 
I'm suddenly curious if reincarnation could explain people that are LGBT. It seems like a possible explanation to me. A person could of had a past life as the opposite gender then in current life because of that has attraction to the same sex. However I'm not sure if this explains people who are asexual and those people do exist. Perhaps asexual people are those who were sexually abused in past life or even in current life. I can't really say because I'm not asexual or even LGBT. Anyway what are your guys thoughts. Just kind of wondering why some people might be LGBT especially since I just found out a cousin of mine is Bi

Hi Galaxy,

I should have mentioned that there is a whole thread devoted to some aspects of this issue here:


Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi Polaris,

You continue to express your viewpoints re soul gender as raw fact rather than your opinion or as someone else's viewpoint/opinion. IMO, it would be clearer to those trying to sift through the material presented if you noted that what you have just said is part of the teachings of Eckankar or etc. I.e., it would be good if you indicated the source for the "data" presented.

Cordially,
S&S
SeaAndSky,

I came about this knowledge from direct experience during an NDE many years ago. During the NDE I became aware of having PL's which before then I had no knowledge of as I was raised Baptist has a child. Since the NDE I have had several conscious OBEs over the many years. There are others that have had similar experience as myself all over the world so it's nothing new really. This is not tied into any kind of spiritual path or belief system. Although I am aware of certain spiritual paths that do speak of this kind of higher awareness. So, I am simply sharing information of what I have experience up to this point. What one does with that is up to them. The best teacher really is to have the experience of being out of the body yourself. After all we are all here so that the soul may know itself by its own experience.

I could have mention this in (how I came about having this awareness) before responding to the post. But since I have mention this before in other treads, I did not want to repeat myself.

Respectfully,

P.
 
Hi Polaris,

I do understand that information that came from experience has a great impact (understatement) on the person involved. This information is highly valuable for them. (speaking from experience myself, as you probably know).
Still, we cannot assume that our gained information is Universal Truth. It was a message to us, to our level of consciousness, and also filtered by our limited brains. On top of that, from my understanding during a stay in a Higher Realm, we are not all from the same origin. Nothing weird, and absolutely no hierarchical implications, but I assume that some people go through different systems than others.
So your information could be applicable to your spheres and soul groups (I can't rule that out), while my information and understanding are different than yours.

In the meantime, I agree with S&S that we always must be cautious in giving our opinions on spiritual matters. Personal experience is all that matters. And while talking about one's experiences, it must always be made clear that we're talking about a personal point of view and not about the Universal Reality/Truth. Just adding 'in my opinion' or 'from my point of view' is enough. It's also the courtesy to give others space to express their point of view.
 
SeaAndSky,

I came about this knowledge from direct experience during an NDE many years ago. During the NDE I became aware of having PL's which before then I had no knowledge of as I was raised Baptist has a child. Since the NDE I have had several conscious OBEs over the many years. There are others that have had similar experience as myself all over the world so it's nothing new really. This is not tied into any kind of spiritual path or belief system. Although I am aware of certain spiritual paths that do speak of this kind of higher awareness. So, I am simply sharing information of what I have experience up to this point. What one does with that is up to them. The best teacher really is to have the experience of being out of the body yourself. After all we are all here so that the soul may know itself by its own experience.

I could have mention this in (how I came about having this awareness) before responding to the post. But since I have mention this before in other treads, I did not want to repeat myself.

Respectfully,

P.
Hi Polaris,

I think it is always best to treat new posts on a new thread as being "of first impression": First, new people are coming on the board or just visiting all the time and may have no familiarity with the types of background facts you may have specified in prior threads, sometimes occurring pretty far back in time. Second, not everyone reads every post, even if they were around when it was posted. Third, people simply forget, even if they were around.

I don't think any of us are perfect in this regard, so I am subject to being "called out" on this point as much as anyone. The same is true in terms of providing the basis for an assertion, whether personal experience, opinion, hearsay, and/or "authority". I personally think this helps the reader evaluate the assertion (as it definitely helps me in doing so).

Cordially,
S&S
 
However I'm not sure if this explains people who are asexual and those people do exist. Perhaps asexual people are those who were sexually abused in past life or even in current life.
I'm not asexual either (still LGBT+ though) but I find this suggestion really problematic.

I'm not angry with you at all, but it feeds into many harmful stereotypes about asexuals. Asexuals are not broken or inherently traumatized. Some people just don't want to have sex with other people and that's fine.
 
I think the answer is yes. And there are things like trauma, chemicals, and other factors to consider. At the end of the day, if you are trying to practice Love and respect, i don't care who you're attracted to or why.

Love and respect is what matters.

Personally i think a lot of us are quick to blame past lives when we don't consider immediate factors. Do you think social engineering exist?

Growing up i could only seem to attract predatory older women or gay men. I never understood why I had a pull on that type... But it has a lot to do with my own energy. And i am attracted to older women. This has something to do with my psychology.

Sad to say but i think alot of it has to do with being sheltered. Predators see innocence and an opportunity to fulfill base desires.

This is a vast subject and i really emphasis the social engineering as a point worth considering. How much does outside stimulus effect us?

And sad to say but my experience with my friends who are homosexual have had absent fathers and personal abuse i can't go into.

There's alot of psychology. I don't feel so connected to my past lives but sometimes I've seen myself as a man, a woman a boy and a girl. All races and creeds. Victim and abuser.
 
I'm not asexual either (still LGBT+ though) but I find this suggestion really problematic.

I'm not angry with you at all, but it feeds into many harmful stereotypes about asexuals. Asexuals are not broken or inherently traumatized. Some people just don't want to have sex with other people and that's fine.

Sorry about that. Not being asexual I thought people who were asexual are usually asexual due to some kind of trauma. Though I use to think I was asexual as a teenager I can't completely understand why some people are asexual. I can remember as a teenager sex ed scared me to the point that during my teenage years I would push people away out of fear of things like getting pregnant at a young age or getting aids. I even thought I was asexual as a teenager. It wasn't until I got into college and in my 20s that I began to realize I have some sexual desire. However, because of the fear that sex ed caused me I still have times when I feel ashamed of my sexual desire. Sometimes I wish I had skipped sex ed as a teenager because of all the fear it caused me. Maybe then I wouldn't of started dating later in life and could of been married and kids by now.
 
I can remember as a teenager sex ed scared me to the point that during my teenage years I would push people away out of fear of things like getting pregnant at a young age or getting aids. I even thought I was asexual as a teenager.
That is perfectly valid! It's normal to not want to have sex at a young age so that alone isn't a determining factor of a person's sexual orientation (which some people don't fully know until they're older).
 
I had the thought to include body chemistry. Some people don't know they have low thyroid. Just an example. Hormone levels, the foods we eat, the things we watch... This all plays a role. It's a good idea to get blood work done at some point in your life. Turns out most of us are deficient in something.
 
SeaAndSky,

I came about this knowledge from direct experience during an NDE many years ago. During the NDE I became aware of having PL's which before then I had no knowledge of as I was raised Baptist has a child. Since the NDE I have had several conscious OBEs over the many years. There are others that have had similar experience as myself all over the world so it's nothing new really. This is not tied into any kind of spiritual path or belief system. Although I am aware of certain spiritual paths that do speak of this kind of higher awareness. So, I am simply sharing information of what I have experience up to this point. What one does with that is up to them. The best teacher really is to have the experience of being out of the body yourself. After all we are all here so that the soul may know itself by its own experience.

I could have mention this in (how I came about having this awareness) before responding to the post. But since I have mention this before in other treads, I did not want to repeat myself.

Respectfully,

P.
I would really like to learn about how you came to know about your past lives. Do you have a link to it? I talked to you for a long time when we first came on. You probably don't remember. I had a different icon.
 
Sorry about that. Not being asexual I thought people who were asexual are usually asexual due to some kind of trauma. Though I use to think I was asexual as a teenager I can't completely understand why some people are asexual. I can remember as a teenager sex ed scared me to the point that during my teenage years I would push people away out of fear of things like getting pregnant at a young age or getting aids. I even thought I was asexual as a teenager. It wasn't until I got into college and in my 20s that I began to realize I have some sexual desire. However, because of the fear that sex ed caused me I still have times when I feel ashamed of my sexual desire. Sometimes I wish I had skipped sex ed as a teenager because of all the fear it caused me. Maybe then I wouldn't of started dating later in life and could of been married and kids by now.
I'm super asexual, and for me personally it has more to do with getting off on God 😜 Most, if not all, past lives I remember involved an intense degree religious mysticism (Buddhist, Catholic, Hasidic -- you name it, I was there 🥳). I'm not talking about dogma telling me the body is dirty, I'm talking spiritual ecstasy the likes of which make physical "ecstasy" seem weird and lifeless and meat-ish. Not sure what it's like for anyone else, but for me the divine is just hotter in the sack 😉 When I was in college, before the term "asexual" was used, I'd explain myself with: "Why would you want to **** when you could watch the sunset?"

I wasn't ace in my last life (I was gay) but even then I was only into it because I endowed it with so many spiritual connotations it became transcendent. Though I only remember my most recent past life with any real clarity, I do believe the guy I was with had been my partner in an orthodox "brother-making" ceremony in a much earlier life (it's called "adelphopoiesis" if you're curious) -- something that really wasn't gay at all, but did involve a lot of love and sort of wed our souls together in a divine fashion. I think of it as "soulmate-making" now, seeing how it panned out. So, for me, past lives HAVE had an influence on my sexuality, as I've always had a preference for monastic experiences, and as such acclimated to being around people of my same gender, awash in a sense of divine love. It's a very appealing vibe for me. Raw physicality just doesn't compute in my soul. And maybe that's also trauma-related (I've had a fair share of trauma in most lives, including this one), but I wouldn't have it any other way. If trauma brings you closer to divine ecstasy, I'd say, at the end of the day, it's worth the price.

However, of course, I can only speak for myself. And that's one of my favorite things about looking into reincarnation -- you can really see the breadth and scope of influences making each person unique, giving them interests and experiences and proclivities so personally tailored there's no way to replicate it. And yet at the same time, we're all one! It's marvelous how diverse and eclectic we all need to be in order to cover the vast array of feelings the divine is privy to through us as a collective, and in order to set into motion the infinite, unknowable tiny waves of cause-and-effect that endlessly weave the future! And I guess that's a clunky summary of my sexual orientation 😂
 
I am a lesbian in this life. In my last, I was an old craggy man when I died. But as far as I can figure I have been switching back and forth between sexes fairly easily. No idea on orientation but I suppose I have done this before. ( I suspect so, my past lives occasionally bleed into my dreams). But it looks like I've been pretty much everything. I think my choice to be in a homosexual body was definitely a conscious choosing that I made for many reason. Part of that is probably a lesson for my parents as much as for me. And part is probably my soulmate is also in a lesbian body and we met briefly this lifetime; and I assume part of the choosing was allowing that possibility. (We didn't walk down that path in this lifetime. Bad timing).
 
This is quite interesting...

"A crisis, particularly in very early or very late life, may so shatter the personality's identification with the body that he vacates it temporarily. He may do one of many things. He may leave so completely that the body goes into coma, if the boy consciousness has also suffered shock. If the shock is psychological and the body consciousness is still operating more or less normally, then he may revert to an earlier reincarnational personality.

In such a case, this is simply a regression that often passes. Here we become concerned again with the animus and the anima. If a personality believes that it is doing a poor job in a male life, it may activate the anima's qualities, taking on the characteristics of a past female existence in which it handled itself well. Reversing the picture, the same can happen to a woman.

On the other hand, if the personality finds that it has so over-identified with its present sex that its individuality is deeply threatened, then it may also bring to the fore the opposite picture, going so far as to identify again with a past personality of the opposite sex."

— "Seth Speaks" by Jane Roberts, Part Two: Chapter 13: Session 557, October 28, 1970
 
I can agree with extremes causing extreme reactions but that also seems to imply that the soul has no inherent gender, which I don't believe.

I think what is more likely is that people who fall near the middle of the male / female spectrum are more likely to experience confusion and other issues as they they may attempt to live their lives from a perspective they may not feel entirely comfortable with.
 
I can agree with extremes causing extreme reactions but that also seems to imply that the soul has no inherent gender, which I don't believe.

I think what is more likely is that people who fall near the middle of the male / female spectrum are more likely to experience confusion and other issues as they they may attempt to live their lives from a perspective they may not feel entirely comfortable with.
Hi Totoro,

As you know, I am also a believer in innate or inherent soul/spirit gender. However, I am not sure of the gender spectrum concept. Since some may find my ideas in this area controversial, I will probably PM you first before posting.

Cordially,
S&S
 
In MY case, I believe my soul is genderfluid, not that my past lives have determined who/what I am.

I am genderfluid/non-binary and a panromantic demisexual in this life (can form emotional connections with any gender/person but you have to get into my head/heart before you can get into my pants - on the asexual spectrum). I am fairly confident that I have experienced a whole spectrum of gender and sexuality over the scope of my past lives, and without a whole lot of sexual-type traumas (and I think attributing asexuality to only trauma is an under-educated take on things). I think part of my demisexual nature may simply be from learning over the ages that sex can complicate matters and there are more important things in life than reproduction.

It's my personal theory that souls may indeed have an inherent gender identity, but that there are more gender identities beyond this physical realm than just the biology-based binary.
 
learning over the ages that sex can complicate matters and there are more important things in life than reproduction
Agree. Can, shouldn't, but sexual instincts and activity usually do complicate and distract.

Instinct is just the first level above primary perception. It is what plants strive to develop, animals are dominated by, humans should've mastered it already. But, in all populations, characteristics are distributed on bell-curves. Still there are humans who haven't mastered their instincts, or at least not all the time.
 
Hi Totoro,

As you know, I am also a believer in innate or inherent soul/spirit gender. However, I am not sure of the gender spectrum concept. Since some may find my ideas in this area controversial, I will probably PM you first before posting.

Cordially,
S&S
Feel free! Inbox is always open!
 
I've read that sexuality is a spectrum and I think that might very well be true. Though I have found out I am straight I tend to be a bit of a tomboy and am interested in some things that are considered masculine. But I've been told that's actually normal even for someone whose straight. Though there is some debate about it I do believe gender stereotypes are just that stereotypes. Also I have always seemed to see both males and females as equals. Also I'm finding out that I like intelligence in a partner and am starting to identify as sapiosexual. I think this has to do with the fact that I put high expectations on people and if they can't meet my high expectations I will not be very impressed with them. I am not ashamed of being like this but most people take it as me being uncaring. I can't help it though. Part of it is I have a rather geeky interest in super heroes and am looking for someone super.
 
Part of it is I have a rather geeky interest in super heroes and am looking for someone super.
Hi Galaxy,

Well, depending on how you define the term "super" that will be a very small to non-existent group. o_O So, that lowers your possibilities substantially. :( Consequently, you need to be sure that you have what it takes to appeal to the limited number of "super" persons out there in order to have any chance at all. What do "super" people look for in a partner or spouse? The two most common tropes that I recall from my comic book days are partnerships with another super or a "sidekick" with benefits. I.e., the latter is not a super but definitely brings something "desirable" to the combo. Batman partners with sidekick "Albert" (a helper) or Robin (another helper). In "The Big Bang Theory", Sheldon ends up with another nerdy super, but his pal Leonard ends up with someone who is definitely no "super" in the brains department, but a "sidekick with benefits" in Penny ;). (OTOH, it might be posited that Penny is a "super" of a different type :)).

All of the foregoing is said "tongue-in-cheek". Actually almost all of the happy, harmonious and long-lasting marriages/relationships I am aware of feature non-super people who are substantially aligned in terms of intelligence, interests, beliefs, etc. and are also dedicated to making their relationship work long-term. However, they likewise have enough differences to make life interesting (as well as create occasional friction :mad:). The differences are also important as one may be capable where the other is less capable or weak, making the combo stronger as a whole. This allows us to supplement and support each other in our weaknesses. Our differences can also provide different perspectives--another benefit. I could go on, but best to end before I become even more boringly grand-parental. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, just my "2 cents" as the saying goes. :cool:

Cordially,
S&S
 
Like I said my attraction to intelligence and high expectations for others can seem self centered and uncaring, but that's just who I am and I'm not ashamed of it. Another part of it is my upbringing of being put in special classes as a kid and feeling ashamed of it not to mentioned I was taken away from my friends to be put in special classes. I'm only recently learning I may not be stupid myself after all and might of been misunderstood as a kid because I'm the creative type. Still I sometimes struggle with self esteem because I think I'm stupid and want to be super myself instead.
 
I look at our sojourn on Earth as attending a school. We attend it to educate ourselves, to grow toward further fulfilling our individual potential.

It isn't only to make friends and feel good, although those aren't to be discounted either. There are, and there'll always be, first-graders up to the seniors ready to graduate, each one learning at their individual level. Suffering comes from hanging with the wrong crowd, trying things that are above our skills and level of development, incorrect attitude toward learning. We don't have to suffer, so when we're suffering it means we have to find out why, and make changes.

Obviously, the difficulty comes from the societal conditioning we endure from the moment we enter the womb, so by the time we get to be teenagers we pretty much forgot why we are here, what we are supposed to do, whom we are to learn from.

I believe that the only way to get back on track is to get in touch with our individual inner guidance. It is like while at school, we should remember who / what we are, why we are enrolled in school, how are we supposed to behave while here. It is like becoming lucid in a dream.
 
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