AstonishingPatch123
Senior Member
I’m not expressing my beliefs here as for now (I may do at another time), but do you believe that you can only reincarnate into the future, or do you think you can reincarnate into the past as well?
Do you believe that you can only reincarnate into the future, or do you think you can reincarnate into the past as well?
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GalaxyDreamer90
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Not entirely sure but often I feel I belong in a peaceful utopian version of the future sort of like the old cartoon the Jetsons as weird as that may sound.
AstonishingPatch123
Senior Member
It could always happen. I often have memories of witnessing events in a previous lifetime that took place during my current lifetime. I have a strong feeling that I may have lived a previous existence as a British girl in 2000s and early 2010s England, despite the fact that I am a boy and was born in 2006.
In that life, I may or may not have died in a house fire in 2012. If I did indeed die that way, I know that I didn’t wake up and that I died peacefully. 15 children in England died in house fires that year. Me, my younger sister and my younger brother (who were my siblings in that life) were 3 of them.
In that life, I feel as if I was somewhere between a girly girl and a tomboy; this is due to the fact that I lived as a male in many past lives too, about two handfuls of which took place in England. I was a huge fan of SpongeBob SquarePants, The Fairly OddParents, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Totally Spies, HiHi Puffy AmiYumi and The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy. I was such a big fan of HiHi Puffy AmiYumi that I had bedsheets of it. Every time it would air on Cartoon Network UK, I would watch it.
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GalaxyDreamer90
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I remember those shows too especially avatar the last airbender. I'm guessing since you grew up on those shows too you must be about my age in late 20s or early 30s. Im 32 by the way. I'm also a bit of a tomboy in someways, but not entirely sure why. Could of had a few male lifetimes but I can only remember one in which I was a young woman in a forest and I feel that I had more female life times then male life times. What you're describing sounds like a parallel life. Anyway for some odd reason I have always found myself thinking about the future even at a young age. Part of it is probably because I'm a creative type who is always thinking ahead. Also from a young age I would have dreams that would later come true, which lately seems to be happening more often.
SeekerOfKnowledge
Learner
You often hear that in the life between lives time does not exist or is different. In NDE experiences people sometimes report that they could look at their past and future lives and it all appeared to happen simultaneously.
So why not?
I also sometimes wonder why some people appeared to be ahead of their time. Reminds me a bit of PL flashbacks. Just that they got glimpses of things that didn't exist yet.
When I think of flashbacks, images, potential memories... it is not that something that happened earlier in the timeline feels "further away" than something that belongs to a later time.
But who knows....
So why not?
I also sometimes wonder why some people appeared to be ahead of their time. Reminds me a bit of PL flashbacks. Just that they got glimpses of things that didn't exist yet.
When I think of flashbacks, images, potential memories... it is not that something that happened earlier in the timeline feels "further away" than something that belongs to a later time.
But who knows....
AstonishingPatch123
Senior Member
No, I’m nowhere close to that age. I’m reporting a previous existence, not my current one.
AstonishingPatch123
Senior Member
Honestly, the life I’m describing here began before I was born, but ended during my current lifetime.
Ehrenbreitstein
Senior Member
I believe time doesn’t exist on the other side, therefore people can reincarnate into any time period possible! There are lots of books that talk about this (and simultaneous lives!).
melon04
Senior Member
If reincarnation isn't linear, then does it disrupt time and result in paradoxes?
I really don't know the answer to this question but I prefer to not believe this theory. Just as a choice.
I think we shouldn't mix the concepts of different realms of reality. While we are here, time is linear and we always travel from A to B, whether we like it or not. I don't believe in fixed outcomes or a future that is set in stone. In my view, there is no point in living lives that are already planned ahead. Maybe it could work for certain people but not for me.
I think we shouldn't mix the concepts of different realms of reality. While we are here, time is linear and we always travel from A to B, whether we like it or not. I don't believe in fixed outcomes or a future that is set in stone. In my view, there is no point in living lives that are already planned ahead. Maybe it could work for certain people but not for me.
cloud potato
Just a potato in the clouds
Sure, why not? But... I think it more as a really nifty idea- I'm just some guy, whose answers aren't always going to jive with others.
Separately.
I used to think I had a memory of a "future life." How is that possible? That was a heavy/depressing memory from childhood... A near 30 years ago. Not much to elaborate on that.
But I think... There is high probability it is a memory from a past life from a different region in time/space.
Separately.
I used to think I had a memory of a "future life." How is that possible? That was a heavy/depressing memory from childhood... A near 30 years ago. Not much to elaborate on that.
But I think... There is high probability it is a memory from a past life from a different region in time/space.
Ehrenbreitstein
Senior Member
We don’t really know, but I like to imagine that the multiple universe theory is true for this to work, thus giving us endless possibilities and preserving “free choice.”
As always, my answer is, who knows? We are not privy, with any certainty, as to how anything works. Speculation, deep intuition, and spiritual wisdom are the best we can conjure. So this leads us to answer questions like this with no basis in concrete facts. So, my opinion/answer is I don't know, but I prefer to think we are on a journey--a forward progression of the soul. As we live in these biological vessels and experience our mortal lives, we learn with the progression of age and experience. Could that basic principle carry into the spiritual realm... is it an indicator? Again, only speculation here, but I give it some value. I like the idea that we are on a journey to learn and experience the cosmos, but it doesn't feel right to me to think we can just drop into any time realm in the future... but (with emphasis) that's just me and my experience.
As we see in nature and the other models of creation, there is a progression, a swirling vortex, if you will, of evolution and change. Can the granite boulder return to its mother stone? Can the great deltas return soils to previous fields? Now, thinking in terms of the spiritual realm, of which, again, we have no certainty, can this same model of time and progression apply? Makes sense to me.
So my answer, my experience, or rather my opinion, is no. In our mortality--this bag of bones, there is only NOW. The past is gone and now a memory; the future is yet to be, and there is only hope and or speculation of what's to come. The spiraling progression of life is dependent on a motion of some form of cosmic force. Call it Yin-Yang, positive-negative, light-dark, humpity-dumpty... something seems to power us forward. I lean towards thinking the same way about reincarnation. I have my memories of past lives residual in my soul. Sometimes they surface in the NOW and give me cause to pause, but as of yet, I've not experienced what's to come. But it's a great question! ~Tman
As we see in nature and the other models of creation, there is a progression, a swirling vortex, if you will, of evolution and change. Can the granite boulder return to its mother stone? Can the great deltas return soils to previous fields? Now, thinking in terms of the spiritual realm, of which, again, we have no certainty, can this same model of time and progression apply? Makes sense to me.
So my answer, my experience, or rather my opinion, is no. In our mortality--this bag of bones, there is only NOW. The past is gone and now a memory; the future is yet to be, and there is only hope and or speculation of what's to come. The spiraling progression of life is dependent on a motion of some form of cosmic force. Call it Yin-Yang, positive-negative, light-dark, humpity-dumpty... something seems to power us forward. I lean towards thinking the same way about reincarnation. I have my memories of past lives residual in my soul. Sometimes they surface in the NOW and give me cause to pause, but as of yet, I've not experienced what's to come. But it's a great question! ~Tman
I put a lot of thought into it, as there's some things in my world / life that seemed to occur in the past as well.
Firstly, I don't believe time travel in this sense is possible. I believe we need to experience linear time to develop and grow as souls, since I also believe time doesn't exist "on the other side".
I've come to the conclusion that the case may be parallel lives that over lap by a few years (for instance my son had an overlap with his previous life of about 10 years), parallel lives or even just a psychic awareness or link with someone else.
Firstly, I don't believe time travel in this sense is possible. I believe we need to experience linear time to develop and grow as souls, since I also believe time doesn't exist "on the other side".
I've come to the conclusion that the case may be parallel lives that over lap by a few years (for instance my son had an overlap with his previous life of about 10 years), parallel lives or even just a psychic awareness or link with someone else.
GalaxyDreamer90
Senior Member
You seem to be very in the present moment. Wish my brain was wired that way sometimes, would probably make me less anxious and mindfulness easier. Instead my brain is always either stuck thinking about the possible future or thinking of bad memories from the past that I'm still trying to get over. For some odd reason my brain just isn't wired to focus well on the present moment. I guess it comes with being a creative type.
Nope, this is just working on yourself. Meditation practices, awareness, etc.
melon04
Senior Member
I also have a very hard time believing in nonlinear reincarnation.
I believe that we can choose to reincarnate in the future, past, or present, function of what we want to accomplish. "Past lives" are previous incarnations, and they aren't necessarily in the past physical-time.
It isn't that time doesn't exist "on the other side", but that the time we experience in the physical isn't related to that. Similarly the time we experience while dreaming isn't related to the physical-time.
The fact that we observe and believe that "time is linear and we always travel from A to B", doesn't really mean that it is so. There are "no fixed outcomes" because we have free-will in the limits of our available choices at each moment.
cloud potato
Just a potato in the clouds
i've visited the 70's and 20's in my dreams. i've been feeling a lot of nostalgia lately for the earlier times of earths history.
i agree, that because we are so immediately identified with *this body* we might feel time must be experienced in a particular fashion. However, i have read here and my self have experienced instances where time did not register the same as how we've come to understand it.
there is a thread somewhere here, of a member who experienced years of life in what had to be minutes. my self i have had a meditative experience with my awareness descending into my body. it was somehow out of the body, and what i thought to be a 20 minute meditation actually ended up being 2 and a half hours. and have had dreams where in one night i've experienced a week long adventure.
i'm not even sure if minerals, plants or animals experience time the same as we do. there may be some similarities, and it makes me wonder if consciousness exist outside the physical body- can it also exist outside time/space as we've come to know it?
i agree, that because we are so immediately identified with *this body* we might feel time must be experienced in a particular fashion. However, i have read here and my self have experienced instances where time did not register the same as how we've come to understand it.
there is a thread somewhere here, of a member who experienced years of life in what had to be minutes. my self i have had a meditative experience with my awareness descending into my body. it was somehow out of the body, and what i thought to be a 20 minute meditation actually ended up being 2 and a half hours. and have had dreams where in one night i've experienced a week long adventure.
i'm not even sure if minerals, plants or animals experience time the same as we do. there may be some similarities, and it makes me wonder if consciousness exist outside the physical body- can it also exist outside time/space as we've come to know it?
silvergenji
Senior Member
Tl;dr: Quantum physics are wild, yo.
I feel like if all of space-time exists at once until observed (quantum mechanics), then why wouldn't it be possible to do so? Time is a way that our minds categorize and perceive reality one piece at a time, and it's been shown that things like large mass (such as black holes) and velocity can bend spacetime and our perceptions of it (see Theory of Relativity). We might be bound by time in these particular physical forms, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily the case in the space between incarnations. It's also possible that some people simply *choose* to move non-linearly and others prefer to stay "in order". There's still so much we just don't know about what comes after this.
(I also have some half-formed theories about the potential inter-dimensionality of reincarnation based on the many-worlds theory in quantum mechanics and my own experiences that might explain some timings "being off", but I think that conversation goes beyond the scope of these forums as it gets into alternate universes and whatnot.)
I feel like if all of space-time exists at once until observed (quantum mechanics), then why wouldn't it be possible to do so? Time is a way that our minds categorize and perceive reality one piece at a time, and it's been shown that things like large mass (such as black holes) and velocity can bend spacetime and our perceptions of it (see Theory of Relativity). We might be bound by time in these particular physical forms, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily the case in the space between incarnations. It's also possible that some people simply *choose* to move non-linearly and others prefer to stay "in order". There's still so much we just don't know about what comes after this.
(I also have some half-formed theories about the potential inter-dimensionality of reincarnation based on the many-worlds theory in quantum mechanics and my own experiences that might explain some timings "being off", but I think that conversation goes beyond the scope of these forums as it gets into alternate universes and whatnot.)
I'd like to think I could reincarnate in the past (don't ask me why) but I don't see how. All the bodies have souls. I'd need to replace the soul that was in the body of the person that would host me with my soul. Where then would the soul that I kicked out go? Wouldn't that change the destiny of that person and his/her actions and possibly those of his/her entourage responding to those actions? Taking it a (big) step further, this could change the course of events and history in the local community - and beyond - and result in a different present, which I think is impossible. Am I clear?
AstonishingPatch,
I have thought about this as well. This is just my opinion and experience while having OBE's is that time as we understanding it has human beings exist in a linear manner while incarnated in the lower worlds of duality which are the physical, astral and mental dimensions of being. This is because we are using the mind or mental body as a tool while incarnated in these dimensions which is limited. However, Soul exists above the mental plane which is the causal or soul plane. Here time does not exist as soul is above the mind. As all possible realities and possibilities exist as a singularity. This is where we all make our decision to incarnate again into the lower worlds for more experience.
Knowing this it is possible to experience a possible parallel reality very close to our own. However, it would still be subjected to linear time because while there we must still use the mind as a tool. However, soul can and does incarnate into the future where a possible timeline would split off into a different direction. In fact, we all do this all time while incarnated because every decision you make about your life be it positive or negative creates another timeline with this reality into a different direction. This is how soul creates and masters its reality by experience.
The reason soul exist above time is that it resonates or vibrates faster than thought itself. It also exists in the eternal moment of the now. From souls' perspective there is no future or past. There is only the present or the eternal moment of the now. And because of this we already exist in eternity.
Peace and love.