Do you think astrology can be used to discover things about past lives?

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  1. Jody

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    Today is my 50th birthday. For those who know much about astrology, the south node, which is often associated with past lives, is somewhat conjunct both my natal sun in Virgo and my natal Mars in Leo. I would take that to mean that in a past life I had quite a bit more authority and more "masculine energy" than I do now. (which I believe to be true)
    Are there any other astrologers out there?
     
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    In part but it will never be the whole story as to what each person is contrary to what a lot who dabble in this especially those who are pay to play spirituality. As for past lives the rabbit hole leads into a bottomless abyss but many here already know that.
     
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    Happy birthday!!

    What houses are your Leo and Virgo in? I can help you interpret that, but I need more information.
     
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    Hi TABA,

    Mostly true, but still an interesting area of inquiry to me.

    Hi Klaud,

    If you have some insight into this type of thing I'd like to get take on my own data. I've long been interested in whether there are some things I could learn this way.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    Thanks, Klaud! I was born at 3:42 am in Milwaukee, WI. My rising sign is Leo, but my Mars, South Node, and Virgo Sun are in the 2nd house. Which makes sense, because I believe I have considerably less money in this life than in previous ones.
     
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    I hope you don't mind, but I took a look at your chart. It looks like you used placidus, but I used whole sign because it's a little more accurate imo and it puts everything into evenly spaced slots. It doesn't change much in terms of your nodes, but which chart system you relate to more is up to you.

    With PL astrology, the north node is the actual mathematical point while the south one is a basically a karmic point placed in the opposite sign.

    Node opposite Mars: Opposite is like a stumbling block. Do you have a lot of inner frustration?

    Node trine Jupiter in 4th house Scorpio: Trine is a really good aspect to have and Jupiter is like the planet of opportunity and luck. It's good for like providing stability because the 4th house is the house of family and home. However, Jupiter is square moon and ascendant, which creates a lot of difficulty.

    Node square Neptune in 4th house Scorpio: Neptune murks up whatever it touches and squares generally are more difficult aspects to work with. It's not a practical planet, it's a spiritual dreamy one. Because it's in Scorpio when you're focused you're *really* focused. Neptune is also square sun, which can lead to people taking advantage of your generosity.
     
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    Node opposite 2nd house sun: You want financial security, but there's not always a clear path in actually getting there.

    You also have a first house Leo Mars, which is code for lots of energy in going after what you want. Mars is also conjunct sun, which is a positive aspect. Mars is also trine midheaven in Aries, which can be an indicator of successful goal achieving or at least really going for what you want lol.

    Chiron is often thought to be what we need to heal from in terms of PL. Yours is in 9th house Aries (house of religion and philosophy).

    From what I can tell, you're more spiritually focused rather than money focused.
     
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    I don't know if that helped or not, but that's the best I can do. Thanks for letting me take a whack at your chart :)
     
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    Thanks, Klaud! :)
     
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    I have a question... since I'm a "strange" case (I guess lol).. I have had the same birthday for three past lives.. 11/13, 1780, 1906 and 1974. That also works out to being born Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.

    I've never done all three charts, but I've always wondered what significance there is in that alignment of everything. I personally think it's just symbolic on a personal level, but I've always been curious if there was a deeper meaning I wasn't seeing.

    I just did a chart for my last past life. Since this thread is about discovering things about your past life, one of the things that popped up was that she may have been good at having extra martial affairs and keeping them a secret.

    I was surprised to see that because that's been one of the most contested events in my past life. I personally don't believe it because circumstances of most of that life wouldn't have allowed for it.. Makes you wonder if the astrology inspired the "tale" or maybe it was written in the stars after all..
     
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    Hi to all. i am not a fan of vedic and karmic astrology, but i did a lot of job into sabian symbols, the sabian symbols into the south node, 12 houses and arabic karma lot teel you a lot of things about your souls and your past life. check ever also retrograde planets, moon, sun and saturn and chiron. saturn related to karma to pay attention, chiron to soul wound, the retrograde planets are the problems you had into your PL that you need to fix on that life.
    well, maybe i can give a look to the symbol you have into karma lot and south node, jody. the north node, should be "where you are going into that life"
    definitely astrology can help a lot for a deep psychologic understanding of the potentiality of a person and also of stuff that is the origin of your pain and suffering or you bad behavours that lead into troubles. that study is related ever only to one motivation: take cosciensness of your self for boost up your quality and heal you. as told the ancient hermetist "knowledge is power." (but power means ever responsability, you know, right? :) )
     
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    If you want i can get a look for you on that 3 data, but on PM messages, cause birth chart i guess are very privately stuff. i see also for myself that into 825 , istabul , turkey, byzantine empire, the planets was into a very very close position to my currently birth chart D: also venus + mars congiuntion but is mirrored, instead of is into leo as that life, was on libra, talking for myself. also jupiter was into a fire sign, aries, now i have into sagittarion
     
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    Yes. Past life can be read in what is known as Nadi Astrology (vedic)
    The origin of the Nadi astrology can be traced back to approximately 2000 years ago. It is said about Nadi astrology that the Indian Rishis or sages had written the life patterns of each person on palm leaves by their Yogic Intuitive powers From these Nadis the querent obtains an accurate reading of all the major events and happenings of the past The most important aspects of this Naadi Astrology are the remedies involving rituals at temples for transmuting difficult karmas created in a past life, which may be affecting this incarnation.
     
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    Also tropical is not bad, if you use arabic karma dharma lots, moon nodes and sabian symbols. indian astrology not considerate uranus, neptune and pluto. i can guarantee that they have a strong influence too. i guess astrologers should be checked out also. at least, ceres and chariklo, cause tecnically they should be X and Y missing planets.
    ceres should be the ruler of virgo, chariklo ... i not know if is more related to taurus or to libra. but libra is more a sign of love and venus is perfect for it, so maybe chariklo rule taurus, ruler of taurus should concerne about relation with nature and material goods, libra is more about loving and plaeasure and art. taurus is love for concrete things, libra for esthetic and mind things.
     
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    note exactly related to PL, but i've seen that draconic chart horoscope can help a lot to understand the deepest of the depth of a soul. expecially related to sabian symbol.
    basically show the chart of the unconsciounce mind.
     
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    Jody, This is just my opinion but astrology has to do with the karmic lessons we need to learn in this incarnation which have been brought over from our recent past life. (possibly more.) There influences only effect the physical and astral planes only. However while in the current lifetime soul is not bound to them exclusively as we have the ability to evolve past those influences to unfold to our fullest potential in this lifetime. As soul in its natural state resonates far beyond the physical, astral and mental planes.

    I once had my chart done by a professional astrologer. What made mine more difficult to create was I was born on the stroke of midnight on a full moon. As my sun sign is Cancer which is rule by the moon. My rising sign is Aries. In the end she had to do two charts for me. After which when she presented them to me she said in a joking manner. (What ever you came here to do my dear you really want to make sure your not coming back.) My human side would like to agrees with this sentiment but I'm sure my higher self (soul) I will decide otherwise.

    Thanks for the interesting post.

    Love and peace...

    P.
     
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    send me your birth data (hours, place, day, month year) and i see if i can see something. also if i am again learning. but until know seems i did good jobs.
    i can give a check to sabian symbols and draconic chart, i guess.
    sorry for late, i read only now your message.
    PS. i can't tell you name, surname of your past ego, i can see only what kind of karma you carry on.
     
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    i born too close to midnight so i have too sun into 4th house :3
    very cutie sweet "mommy" sun, lol.
    Me too Mars on Lion and Sun in Virgo. Welcome to the club, but mine are into III and IV houses! : D
     
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    Could anyone please help me find my south node and what it tells me about my PL?
     
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    send me a PM about your birth date (day, month, year and also HOUR,
    and also time accurate to the split minute! + place (city and country) of your birth.
     
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    Hi Traveler,

    I'm definitely interested. I don't know if you're willing, but in hopes that you are, I would like to send you the same data for myself by PM and see if you can come up with anything.

    Please let me know.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    Got it, waiting your data. :)
     
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    I'm not an astrologer but I do believe in this one.
     
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    IMHO.

    The constellations look to us as we're accustomed only because of a concrete position of Earth (of the Solar System, to be more precise) in the Galaxy.

    From another planet (even from within the Solar System, say, from Mars), the constellations would look different.
    Any known constellation does not exist as something whole, in reality, it's always a set of stars completely uncorrrelated and situated in the Space completely at random.
    So, to say smth. like the "Sun enters Orion/Virgo/Scorpio/..." is devoid of any sense: the Sun does NOT really enter nor exit anything, it LOOKS as if it were in Orion/Virgo/Scorrpio etc., but it has never even been near them, especially, taking into account that those constellaltions don't even exist as any sensible and stable geometrical formations.

    And due to the own movement of individual stars, even the forms of the constellations (as they look to us here on Earth) change in time.

    To say nothing of any influence any star of any constelllation could have over anything existent on our planet - it's absolutely insignificant due to enormous distances between us.

    So, astrology is not even considered a science, it's just a belief some credulous have. It cannot be used for anything serious.

    OK, it's not forbidden to believe in anything one likes.

    I, personally, firmly believe that the Moon is made of cheese, and no one will ever be able to convince me it's not true.

    Best regards.
     
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    and from material point of view you're pretty right, cause i had passion of astronomy on past and i know all these things.
    but know i want to explain a lot of things, and also clearify a lot of stuff for folks that not know exactly astrology \ astronomy.
    well, first off, there is the sideral astrology and the tropical occidental astrology.

    Sideral: is used most from vedic, indian and oriental cultures. it match with equinox precession phenomenon and with the real appareant position of sun, moon planets into the backdrop of the galaxy.
    contro: it not consider planets as uranus, neptune, pluto, and, for that, is very incomplete.

    tropical, occidental astrology: pro: it consider uranus, neptune, pluto influences.
    contro: it not fix with equinox precession phenomenon.
    but now i want to explain better that things, cause your argumentation are valid by a material point of view. but astrology is very much complicated. i know the skepticicsm but try to follow me:

    imagine the sky as a sphere or a circle. and for perspective groupings given by the fact that, with respect to the earth, they are placed in a determined position rather than in another, here the stars group and take shape in the constellations. there are 88 known constellations. the ecliptic is the apparent path that the sun makes in the sky. it passes through the so-called constellations of the zodiac, from the ram to the past. in reality, the sun also passes over the region of sky marked at the ophiuchus between the end of November and the beginning of December, and also over the whale if I am not mistaken, so technically there should be "signs" ... 14 and no in 12. however the constellations to the north of the ecliptic are the boreal ones and those to the south are the austral ones. astrology is based on the following concepts: - there are other realities and planes of existence, in which other entities, spirits, creatures, if you prefer, dwell. - the planets are only the physical and material mirror of these realities. physically Mars is just an expanse of rocks and frozen rust. Venus a volcanic hell, the moon a desolate expanse of gray gravel dotted with craters, Jupiter a balloon of gas and storms and eddies. but this is physically. in the other planes of existence these worlds are "alive" in their own way, just like ours on this plane. - the sum of their "vitality" or "energetic aura" creates a sort of spiritual imprint of these planets, as if they had a kind of collective mind. these astral influences, of a spiritual type, do NOT propagate through light and electromagnetism. perhaps through gravity, because it is a force capable of influencing bodies in various dimensions and at the same time it is also a force capable of propagating instantaneously regardless of distance. whether it is by gravity, by quantum entaglent or call it whatever you like, the concept is that the influences of the stars are reflected on the earth. what happens in heaven is reflected on the physical world, in the same way, what happens on earth is mirrored in the spiritual world. This is astrology. - the zodiac signs in reality, at least for the tropical and western conception of the thing have NOTHING to do with the constellations of the sky. just as there is no lilith as a physical body and no lunar nodes physically exist. it's about energies. the "signs" are simply twelve regions of heaven, each 30 degrees in extension, in which the celestial vault is divided like a slice of orange. when the stars move in these regions of space they are infused with their spiritual imprint and their influence is manifested according to this archetype. therefore, the sun in the ram will express the destructive force of fire, in the scorpion the chill of ice and darkness, in the virgin it will be focused on an intellectual and rational level, and so on. the sun is the life energy, the source of life itself on earth. without the sun we would not exist. the stars count very little honestly because it is the sun that interests us, and it is on the sun that we depend. the moon also, is the mirror of the sun, reflects its light with its reflected energy. it is the unconscious, the mirror. it rules the tides and stabilizes the motion of the earth. the other planets have a more subtle influence but their influence affects the various sides of character and personality. when a person is conceived, the soul is incarnated in the flesh, in this case, the planets regulate its development in the womb. there is also prenatal astrology in fact, but this has more to do with the soul than with physical life. nine months, one is born and comes to light. the configuration of the sky, the arrangement of the planets at the moment of birth along the areas of the sky and along the houses of the sky substantially establishes, in principle, how that person's life will be, both from the point of view of talents, qualities, attitudes and the merits that one brings from previous lives, both regarding difficulties, suffering, obstacles to overcome in order to improve and not to commit the mistakes of the past. astrology can NOT predict things like epidemics, catastrophes, the end of life, winning the lotto, whether or not you will be successful in picking up the person you like, etc. it cannot predict the death of someone, at most it can give a vague indication of what kind of death a person is predisposed to by the law of karma. in the sense that action corresponds to reaction. this rule is valid for Newtonian physics as well as for metaphysics. now, let's see, how can I prove that planets are not only balls of rock, gas and ice but also have their own "personality?" how can I explain that they have subtle energies and that everything in the universe is interconnected by these delicate bonds?
     

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    ah yes, a way there is. you know that every planet have a magnetic field, right? well, EM energy can be converted and processed for produce audible sounds. here is the magnetic field of some planets converted into sounds:

    Moon:
    Mars:
    Jupiter:
    Saturn: (that's creepy careful):
    Uranus:
    Neptune:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cga3DfaLc7A
    Pluto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPe5hs3yYqs
    Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhAXIjJ56xE&t=319s

    now imagine all these stars exchanging these energies and singing a kind of cosmic music. we are literally immersed in these energies.
    so what does true astrology do: study the influence of these energies on earthly life. it is not so different from studying low and high pressure currents to get weather forecasts. or at least, the real astrology is this, not that of magazines and cheap horoscopes that say "ah the moon is in virgin, a busy week awaits you" that is nonsense, it's true. It is obvious that the moon cannot have the same effect on 7 billion people.
    for various reasons.
    - each is the sum of both genetic imprinting, cosmic energies and his soul, + life experiences. astrology cannot see genetics and the soul can see the cosmic energies that have influenced a person's birth. clearly, for each there is a different energy imprint. if this field were converted into music every person of this land would have a different symphony of his life. there are no people with the same "melody".
    - everyone has free will ,. Heaven can prepare what it likes, but it is our decisions that decide whether a squaring results in a fatal misfortune or only in a challenge that gives us the opportunity to grow.
    for example: Mars squared to the sun on the 4th house. troubles and quarrels in the family? well, but a person can choose whether to solve them diplomatically, maturing, growing and developing empathy, whether to run away from home, or whether to go crazy and end up in the black news pages for having committed a massacre in the home. that's what I mean. the astroology njon allows us to predict none of the three possible outcomes. he just says "look there will be these problems" as if a person manages them only and solely on his willpower. I can only say that in a certain sense the surrounding reality is governed by our choices and decisions. call it karma, call it the law of attraction or whatever you like. the point is that like attracts like-. therefore good calls good and evil calls evil.

    now, I didn't believe these things either.
    but then in 2016-2017 I went to hospital for two years for a septicemia in the first and a surgical operation in the second due to a domestic accident that risked killing me, because mki had broken an arterial capillary in the knee. I was literally bleeding to death.
    unfortunately the never genetic disease has made me very weak to these things. bones, muscles and blood vessels are very fragile.

    however I survived and I had another chance. then I wanted to study this discipline both to understand why my life was so infernal, since I certainly did not choose the misfortunes of my existence or my illness, and to be able to anticipate fate or at least minimize the dangers .

    and what do i find in my horoscope?
    that in 2016 Mars was square to the sun and mercury, a sign of fever and infections. Mars was connected to Neptune. conjunction mars + neptune can really cause serious problems with the immune system or sepsis.
    then 2017: Mars was squared to Jupiter and Uranus that I fall in Sagittarius on the VI, house of health. jupiter governs the metabolism, uranus the nerves, but also the incidenrti, mars vs uranus means surgery. sagittarius means legs.
    missing two weeks after that transit here I end up under the knife. >
    so I did a retrospective analysis of my whole life by observing every step, every configuration of my 37 years. there is ALWAYS an astral correspondence between what heaven says and what reality and material life for me was. I njoin know how **** it is possible, but I can say that these energies have some quantum effect that can affect the likelihood with which things happen, for better or for worse. in short, they are indices of probability.
    and the study I did is mainly of a psychological and statistical type. for me it is just a tool to better understand a person and to help people grow or become aware of themselves.

    clearly, this is my knowledge of this and my personal experience. then everyone is free to believe it or not. :)
    ah, about the Sabian symbols, since I often use them for my analyzes: a mystical symbol is associated with each of the 360 ° of the sky, houses and signs. the Sabians were very ancient Sumerian astrologers and seers who had a cult towards the stars, I think they knew quite well the influences of the energies I am describing.
    then over the centuries there have been other interpreters of these symbols and other seers. I have grouped, rearranged, classified and translated last summer all the sabianji symbols in a nice 1000 page file.
    basically a planet, astrologically it is: planet + sign + house + symbol.
    the combimations are 12 + chiron + lilith x 12 x 12 x 360... well. you can understand why can't exist two folks with the same destiny into the same historical time.
    about moon node: the moon nodes are the two point when the moon orbit cross the sun movement on sky. so they are the force line of moon, the lagrange point, on karmic astrology that means the provenience and direction of the soul.
    about lilith, lilith is the shadow of moon, so is where the shadow of moon fall when someone born.

    that's is what i am talking about. i hope i explain the things in a good way.
    however, about the perpsective things of sky and stars: look cyrus, there is the geocentric astrology, but there is also heliocentric. in heliocentric you use the sun as the center point of horoscope, so is like watch planets from the sun instead that from the earth. by sun position the graphic si very different, also sabian symbols chances, for example: i am virgo with geocentric and i am pisces on eliocenrtic. my venus is on leon on geocentric and is on aries on eliocentric. but for the analyzed that i took
    with sabian simbology and astrology... well also if into a differnet way, positions and symbols tell me the same, identical things about my life.
    so is like watch a box from two different angles. change the perspective. but a box, is ever a box.
     
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    just for explain the archetipal:
    Aries: Fire, conflict.
    Taurus: Nature, Earth, as living thing. woods
    Gemini: wind, talk. air.
    Cancer: water and life.
    Lion: energy, light.
    Virgo: mind, intelligence, work. art.
    Libra: armony and balance.
    Scorpio: death, darkness, ice.
    Sagittarius: sound, dimension, exploration, travel, teaching
    Capricorn: earth, physical, rock expression of earth.
    acquarius: metal, states, tecnology, states, change, metamorphosis.
    pisces: spirit, soul, collective mind.
     
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    Thanks to the tons of knowledge you're sharing Traveler.
     
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    Ty. But however... ****, when i have a lot of time a fix a lot the grammar of the thread. what the hell heave google translate? the new version work much more worse. >.<
     
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    Mary Devlin has a couple of excellent books on the subject that I read after reading an article she had in Dell Horoscope on our past life connections with our pets.
    She looks for angular planets for connections between charts of two people for past life connections and a lot of theory based on hypnotic regression of people and obtaining their birth information from past lives then casting charts and looking for repetitive themes of polarities in certain signs.
     
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