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How strong would you mark your belief in reincarnation out of 100% ?

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I really am convinced that there is an afterlife and we reincarnate. However, I cant help but have these negative thoughts in my head from time to time that maybe there is nothing after death, so my rating is 85-90%
 
I am at 100%. I have experienced too much that indicates a beneficial future existence beyond this world to believe anything else. As for why we reincarnate after being "over there", I can only think perfection is experienced best when you have imperfection with which to compare it.


At times when I've been very close to my soul, I've gotten the very clear and distinct impression that I really enjoy playing the game of life...to the extent that I am actively intending to make this a long one, compared to the recent and short ones I've effectively blasted through with tragic (from a human standpoint) consequences.


Good question and thought provoking...I may have more to add later.
 
Somewhere between 95% to 100%.


I fully believe it is real, and something that is a natural part of the universe. But occasionally I have my moments....


But I think there's just to much proof in my life to really be against the idea.
 
I would like to think it was 100% and I really try to think that, but then a "shred of doubt" comes creeping into my mind and I find myself (once again) trying to rationalize the concept away.


However the "arguments" I could use to dismiss Reincarnation, can also be used to argue FOR Reincarnation, so we're back to "Square One", but, when it's all said and done and we cross over, I'm sure we'll know for sure (along with a whole lot more!) ;)
 
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Probably 98%. Occasionally I do have some doubts, but for the most part I believe strongly that reincarnation exists. I have had enough experience with it in my own life and have seen instances of so many people who have had experience with it that I very rarely doubt it.
 
Today it's about 73.5%. Yesterday, it was a little less. Last week I think I was about 90% convinced, and the week before I was about 98%.


Sometimes, I think it's a crazy idea; but when I review interesting cases involving very young children with veridical information, I'm fairly convinced.
 
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Shiftkitty said:
98 or 99%. I always leave open the possibility that I could be wrong.
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I was wrong once, but I was wrong in thinking I was wrong when I was, in fact, right. :tongue:


I would say that my belief is 90%+. There will always be a shread of doubt and a mind open to other possibilites. However, when I consider my own personal experiences, the experiences of countless others, the spiritual components, the logic of the concept, and thousands of case studies backed by credible research, I see very little reason to doubt it. To be quite honest, I'm still waiting for a good agrument against reincarnation in the face of all the mounting evidence. I haven't heard a good one yet. If someone can make a strong argument against things like xenoglossy or a case like the Leiningers, I'm all ears.
 
I've heard good, strong arguments against individual cases, but not against reincarnation as a whole except to point to the aforementioned cases.
 
Nightrain1 said:
Today it's about 73.5%. Yesterday, it was a little less. Last week I think I was about 90% convinced, and the week before I was about 98%.
Sometimes, I think it's a crazy idea; but when I review interesting cases involving very young children with veridical information, I'm fairly convinced.
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I fully agree with this. After taking in new potential evidence I become 100% sure reincarnation is real. However, it feels like now and then my faith goes up and down.


I think its a good thing that we question what we believe in. A lot of people on here, including myself, had religious beliefs before,so if we didnt question things then we all wouldnt be talking on this forum now. We would still be a part of whatever religion we belonged to before.
 
usetawuz said:
I am at 100%. I have experienced too much that indicates a beneficial future existence beyond this world to believe anything else.
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I think thats possibly why I am not at 100%. I have had no experience or contact with beyond. I guess everyone wants the experience to have some personal proof. I have started to practice channeling so I will see how that goes. :)
 
Guess near or about 100%. I personally am a firm believer that life does indeed go on after the passing of this present life. Do Like what


Usetawuz said, " I have experienced too much that indicates a beneficial future existence beyond this world to believe in anything else ". And I also so much do 'Enjoy' playing this Game of Life


And one thing for completely sure that I do NOT believe is the current scientific atheistic and materialistic viewpoint that after this life and after death there is nothing. Do personally believe that the Spirit World is just as real or more real then this physical and material world that we all live in.


Life is Great and always offers soooo Incredible Much!
 
We can no more scientifically prove an afterlife than we can disprove it. It seems like everytime someone comes with evidence for it, someone has evidence against it, and vice versa. I sort of hope that the afterlife and reincarnation never get proven one way or the other. I think it would corrupt it as avaricious and evil people try to find a way to exploit it for their own selfish ends.


Also, how much more would suicides increase if there was solid evidence that you would be reborn? "Oh, I hate the way I look. I'm going back to try again." We can tell people it doesn't work that way, but I have faith (or cynicism) that the mass media would turn reincarnation into a legitmiate do-over.


How would proof of reincarnation and the afterlife affect things like the death penalty, or even the willingness to murder? "I didn't kill him. His soul is still okay. He just has to go find a new body."


There would probably also arise a need for new laws to decide when a person no longer owes a debt. "You owed us $50,000 when you left your last body. You now owe us $200,000 after we calculated the interest and the amount of time it took you to reincarnate and become of legal age."


It would be quite a legal mess. I hope it remains a mystery and matter of pure faith.
 
Very interesting ideas here. I would follow in the thinking of Nightrain and Hydrolad... Here, now, in this moment, I have no doubt. But the journey changes in every creeping moment of time. Some days are loaded with doubt... yet on those days I'm pulled back into memories and thoughts that have no other explanation. I think the revelation of reincarnation is ethereal for a very real purpose. Its like the mirage on one of our flat Kansas highways. We can see it in the distance, we know the vision is there, but we can never grasp or see enough of it to fully understand it. Some claim its just a mirage, a false visual image of climatic and physical coincidence, easily explained by physics. I guess one could also say it is a vision of hope, unexplainable to a thirsty traveler... a lure, if you will, to a basic human need. The memories I have are like that mirage. They are incredible, and emotionally real to me. The tangible highway, or path that I'm on, indicate very real physical and discernible facts for validating things in my psyche. But some days I'm further from clear thinking than others. I'm not sure I can dedicate one number to this belief. My answer would be like a thermometer in the desert, always ranging around 100... but some dam cold, dark nights make me drop, til the light warms me up again... and often send me soaring into the 100+ range.


Shiftkitty, love your thoughts above. This would make an interesting thread on its own: "What if we knew for certain." I'll let you run with it.


blessings to all


Tman
 
Interesting, shiftkitty. I dont think we will ever have to 'worry' about reincarnation being officialy proven. Surley if it got proven then it would defeat the purpose of incarnating again. Whatever intelligent sources are 'behind the scenes', im sure they would block us getting too close to discovering such information, or maybe they have made sure the human mind is not intelligent enough to prove such phenomena, that we are only capable to discover what we need to know?


I agree with you about murderes ect. if reincarnation was a factor of life, people would do whatever they wanted to, thinking they will just fix it in their next life. Im sure this is why christianity introduced hell in their teachings, to control people, make people not do any bad things at all even if they wouldnt be caught here on earth. To be honest, I suppose it works to a certain level.


It is really horrible that we are here on earth disconnected from who we really are, not knowing what awaits us. Sometimes, when i hear of all the horrible things that has/is happened here on earth, I wonder 'why', why do people need to go through such horrible experiences.
 
Shiftkitty said:
There would probably also arise a need for new laws to decide when a person no longer owes a debt. "You owed us $50,000 when you left your last body. You now owe us $200,000 after we calculated the interest and the amount of time it took you to reincarnate and become of legal age."
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Your post has inspired a new question regarding what would happen if Proof of the Afterlife could be proven in a court of law. This is a two part question, which deals not only what would happen to society, but it also explores the opinion of some people that Proof of the Afterlife could be shown, if the same criteria could be applied as what is allowed in court cases, which deal with very important issues including life and death.
 
Shiftkitty said:
I've heard good, strong arguments against individual cases, but not against reincarnation as a whole except to point to the aforementioned cases.
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I agree that someone could be able to pick apart a specific case, but not the bigger picture. How does someone dismiss the work of someone like Ian Stevenson which encompasses decades of research and thousands of individual cases? They can't simply blow that off as genetic memory. Besides, genetic memory is a theory that is far too easy to disprove.


@kmatjhwy - many quantum physicists would probably argue that the spirit world is more real than the physical world.
 
Truthseeker, then I would personally agree with many of those quantum physicists that the Spirit World is more real then this Physical World.
 
Nightrain1 said:
Your post has inspired a new question regarding what would happen if Proof of the Afterlife could be proven in a court of law. This is a two part question, which deals not only what would happen to society, but it also explores the opinion of some people that Proof of the Afterlife could be shown, if the same criteria could be applied as what is allowed in court cases, which deal with very important issues including life and death.
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Good call. I hate to be a threadjacker!
 
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I'm in the 65-70% range myself. While I have never had any concrete personal evidence, I definately remembered "something" back when I was little. Around the ages of 4-7, I recall frequently crying myself to sleep with homesickness even though I came from a very loving home. We also went to church and I was shocked when I discovered we only lived once, as that made zero sense to me. It always seem to be that life was a circle, just like how the leaves fall from the tree only to come back in the spring.


One thing that I have noticed (and maybe I'll start yet another thread about it) is that belief in reincarnation and life after death is divided sharply among the gender lines. While we see plenty of fellow males on this board the subject in general is dominated by women. Men simply can't seem to see what is obvious to women which makes me wonder if being a man makes it difficult to understand the evidence. I've heard plenty of men ridicule the concept of reincarnation but I have yet to hear that response from a woman.
 
How strong would you mark your belief in reincarnation out of 100% ?


I believe 100 % in reincarnation.


However the term 'past life' may be overly simplistic.


Since time does not exist in the spirit world there's a theory that people can be reincarnated into any time period past or future or even live the same life over again.


I guess this implies that for example people could go back in time and see the dinosaurs. Paleontologists will love that.


Almost all of the past life memories I have read about are on planet Earth going back to Atlantis and Lemuria and a few 'cave man' memories.


I would like to find some accounts about past lives on Atlantis that have a lot of details. Most of what I have heard are small fragments.


It would be interesting to hear about some past lives on other worlds. I have read a few but I don't believe them.


According to the Edgar Cayce material people can experience the influences of the other planets in our solar system in some way although we don't live on those planets physically. Each planet has its particular influence.


Then after we have completed our journey in this solar system we go to the system where the North Star, Polaris, resides.
 
Truthseeker said:
I agree that someone could be able to pick apart a specific case, but not the bigger picture. How does someone dismiss the work of someone like Ian Stevenson which encompasses decades of research and thousands of individual cases? They can't simply blow that off as genetic memory. Besides, genetic memory is a theory that is far too easy to disprove.
@kmatjhwy - many quantum physicists would probably argue that the spirit world is more real than the physical world.
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Behaviour can be genetic, but memory is another thing. Genetic memory is intricate memory encoded into DNA and would be just as "improbable" for a skeptic as reincarnation. However, genetic behaviour is another thing. For example, males and females of many species have a genetic behaviour that they do. For example female rats will perform lordosis when mating despite never being explicitly taught that. A male rat that has been injected with estrogen while developing in the womb will also perform lordosis. A female rat that has testosterone while in the womb will not, however, perform lordosis.
 
Delonada said:
Behaviour can be genetic, but memory is another thing. Genetic memory is intricate memory encoded into DNA and would be just as "improbable" for a skeptic as reincarnation. However, genetic behaviour is another thing. For example, males and females of many species have a genetic behaviour that they do. For example female rats will perform lordosis when mating despite never being explicitly taught that. A male rat that has been injected with estrogen while developing in the womb will also perform lordosis. A female rat that has testosterone while in the womb will not, however, perform lordosis.
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All species have survival instincts that are hardwired into their automatic response systems for obvious reasons. And there is no question that hormones play a role influencing our behavior.


I agree, genetic behavior and genetic memory are two different things. Genetic memory as an explaination for past life memories is filled with holes. How does it explain someone remembering a life in China, for example, when there is no Chinese in their genetic bloodline. I personally remember dying in a car accident in my last life. Yet no one in my bloodline has suffered such a fate. If someone in my family had died tragically in an accident in the last 40 years I surely would know about it. I already know about an uncle who got sick and died before I was born.
 
Truthseeker said:
All species have survival instincts that are hardwired into their automatic response systems for obvious reasons. And there is no question that hormones play a role influencing our behavior.
I agree, genetic behavior and genetic memory are two different things. Genetic memory as an explaination for past life memories is filled with holes. How does it explain someone remembering a life in China, for example, when there is no Chinese in their genetic bloodline. I personally remember dying in a car accident in my last life. Yet no one in my bloodline has suffered such a fate. If someone in my family had died tragically in an accident in the last 40 years I surely would know about it. I already know about an uncle who got sick and died before I was born.
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The biggest flaw of genetic memory argument is that it assumes that conception of the "genetic" individual is done at the time of death of the previous person. Genetic memory would only be limited to the memory and experiences that the person had at the time he passed his genetic material onwards(at conception), yet we have too many cases where children remember the death and life of an individual long after he or she had children, if any.


Regarding my belief in past lives/reincarnation I'd say it is 75% based on the fact that life is full of items meant to cast doubt. Materialist indoctrination is no better than religious indoctrination, it is meant to convince you of a certain belief.
 
Still 100%. There are any number of reasons to question and test one's beliefs, but sooner or later you come back to yourself...what works for you? Does it pay you to question what has felt right and fits your sense of reason? Is there an issue of faith with which your belief does not answer? Can you find any way to make what you know and what you sense fit together any better? Ultimately we all make our own reality, our own beliefs, find our own truths and live our lives within those tentative guidelines. There comes a time when a desire to justify your beliefs to others is a zero-sum game and we can say simply "It works for me."


I am at "it works for me" and an eternal afterlife and reincarnation provides me answers and a sense of hope and a desire to achieve a positive and creative direction that I have not had up to this point in my life. Everyone must seek their own sense of how this stuff works...it must answer those questions which pose themselves when you aren't sure where you are at 3:30 am, or assists you in putting an unexpected death of a friend in the prime of life into a positive place in your heart, or enables you to find the sense in an insensible, hard-luck situation. If a truth does these things for you, then what else needs to be questioned?


I am not saying my idea is the one and the only...it is simply one...and it works for me.
 
Sorry, I also wanted to mention my christian friends who implore me to consider the idea I might be wrong (a la Oliver Cromwell's plaint to Charles I..."I beseech thee, from the bowels of Christ, might you be mistaken?")...what happens then? Well, if I'm wrong, their all-forgiving or vengeful God (dependent on the version of christian I'm discussing the matter with) will either forgive my curious belief, or I'll suffer the consequences...after all I was given free will, which I can argue may be a mitigating factor. Likewise, if I am right, I've just lived this lifetime to the fullest and obtained a sense of love and enjoyment that so far exceeds that produced by a lifetime spent avoiding guilt and shame and living a strict dogma espoused by men like me with a desire for power and control. I think I'm okay with that.
 
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