How Would It Affect You...

Discussion in 'Reincarnation Questions' started by Shiftkitty, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Shiftkitty

    Shiftkitty Registered User

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    ... if reincarnation were solidly disproven? Suppose someone of good scientific reputation came up with hard, empirical, undeniable evidence that the soul does not continue on into a new life but either goes to something like Heaven to be in the eternal presence of a deific Creator or else simply disspiates altogether. What would your reaction be?

    I think I would be left in a quandry. Where did all these memories come from? Hyperactive imaginations? What about the details that people recall? Lucky guesses? Subconscious suggestions?

    What would your reaction be?
     
  2. Mammatus

    Mammatus A Squid With a Rocketship

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    Because I'm me, I'd come up with some crazed conspiracy theory, and then go on with my life and watch it spread like widlfire. But that's just me. I'm always coming up with something crazed like that.


    If I wasn't me, I'd just be riddled with confused. Was I simply imagining everything?


    In the end however, I find it almost utterly impossible to believe that we don't reincarnate, with or without the existence of an intelligent creator. So therefore, I agree with the former.
     
  3. Nightrain

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    May I plead for my U.S. constitutional rights under the Fifth amendment regarding this question?


    :cool
     
  4. Owl

    Owl Super-alt Mitglied

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    I just wouldn' t believe him and i would think he is misinterpreting the results of his experiments. Or that he was paid by some religion to say those things.
     
  5. Totoro

    Totoro Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I'd agree with the above. Considering that I've been able to prove details after recollection is more than proof enough for me and luckily, I dont have to prove anything to anyone other than myself. :laugh:
     
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    I was once in a situation back in the early 80's. The President of a company I was employed by was asking me to drop a friendship. I felt this friend was introduced to me by the "Spirit" of my creator. I told the President,


    "On my left hand stands a man. On my right hands stands God. Each of them are telling me two different things. Who do I listen to? The man - or - God?"


    I got a raise and a promotion and was told to follow my own heart in the matter.


    If a 'man' (scientist) standing on the left of me tried to disprove something God (standing on the right of me) has already proven to me - I would stick to my old habits and keep on believing in what God has already proven to me to be the wise choice.


    DK
     
  7. Shiftkitty

    Shiftkitty Registered User

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    I was just thinking (through a histamine-induced haze) how interesting it is that the reasons that might be culled to disprove reincarnation are even more ridiculous than the thinnest of threads used to prove it.
     
  8. Lady2

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    I don't think it's possible to disprove reincarnation. If someone claimed they had, I wouldn't believe them for one second. You have to personally experience past life memory to understand just how powerful an effect it has on your every day life. Once you have experienced this, by searching for it with meditation/regression, or by spontaneous flashes of pure memory that you weren't even looking for or thinking about, only then do you finally start to get your mind around what it really means to have lived before and to be living again...


    Our minds always want facts and proof. Our soul simply wants meaning and truth.
     
  9. hydrolad

    hydrolad Senior Moderator Super Moderator

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    Scientists, by virtue of their training, demand hard, unrelenting evidence of a scientific nature and that is fine for them.


    Whereas plain people like myself, rely on simple faith to reach a decision in our lives, scientists rely on something they can grasp in their hands.


    I’ve been involved with Oxygen (other than breathing it) mostly all of my life, but I have never seen it or held it in my hands, but I have faith it exists.


    When all is said and done at the end of the day, I need to please only TWO people in my life, my Creator and myself.
     
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    I don't have any convincing memories of past lives which means I don't have a solid belief in reincarnation so I wouldn't be that devastated, I don't think, but I'd be disappointed.
     
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    Being a scientist myself I would obviously take it into account. I would fint it a very interesting read. Perhaps this person really did explain something, perhaps the "real" explanation was even more fantastic than the soul travelling from body to body.


    I belong to the group of people, who are not satisfied with a religious explanation. I'm not very religious, I don't really believe in God. But I do believe in reincarnation and thus I am very eager to find out why it happens (in a way that would satisfy me). Even if the scientist disproved reincarnation as a spiritual phenomena, it doesn't mean he would disprove the theory in general. So many people around the world, all ages, all genders, all levels of education, rich, poor and in-between, experiences these things, so to just disprove it as an illusion would be unserious. It would require a thorough study.


    That is why I would find it an extremely interesting read! :D
     
  12. tiltjlp

    tiltjlp A Recycled Soul

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    It wouldn't bother me in the least because I wouldn't accept it. I know for a fact, in my heart and soul, that reincarnation happens. This is one What If game that I won't play, since I know I've lived before.
     
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    I would be gutted, to say the least.
     
  14. sarque

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    This was pretty much what I was going to say. I don't think it's something I could accept, because I know that I have lived before.
     
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    ChrisR Administrator Emeritus Staff Member Super Moderator

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    ..... I would say - "The Devil made him say that!" : angel
     
  16. Ignotus

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    Lol, that would be one of my lines too. I don't believe it for one second. What makes him or her say that it isn't real? There are too many proves to disprove reincarnation. I would also say 'Don't bother me with the details. Do your job and look through it again until you're 9999.9999% sure. Or even better, let me look at it.'
     
  17. Skarphedinn

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    According to the theory of the science philosopher Thomas Kuhn, it wouldn't be one study of one scientist, however reputable he is.


    Reincarnation could be disproven, if it was a generally accepted part of the present scientific paradigm, but as far as I am informed, it is rather marginal at the moment. There are but a few scientists, who research it or consider it seriously.


    Anyway, I would definitely read it, because if they claim, that the reincarnation related phenomena are explained, the alternative theory should give a better explanation than reincarnation itself. And not to forget: scientific theories can always be debated. This is one of the points of science. I cannot imagine a theory that doesn't have weak points.


    It wouldn't be a trauma for me, as I don't have solid past life memories, but the study itself wouldn't change my preferences for those cultures I like now and where I possibly had past lives.


    Skarphedinn
     
  18. tiltjlp

    tiltjlp A Recycled Soul

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    Based on how modern science keeps changing their minds/opinions about such things as if daily multivitamins are good for us or not, why would we simple accept what they might happen to say about reincarnation?
     
  19. MaritaMari

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    Unfortunately, we cannot yet prove or disprove reincarnation. For my part, I wouldn't have a problem with a definite proof that reincarnation doesn't exist, but I would still like science to give another theory that would be good enough to actually substitute the theory of reincarnation. So far, science loosely defines past life memories as active subconsciousness, all the way not knowing exactly what subconsciousness is or what it is capable of.


    I would like to know what is exactly going on, how can so many people have accurate and detailed memories of things they've never seen/known in their current life. If it's not reincarnation, what is it?
     
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    People often think of Science as the defining gavel of reality. Science says it is so, therefore, case closed. However, it always has a way of being overturned, sometimes by observation and sometimes by more indirect means.


    Many skeptics today adhere to a kind of science that is described as "empirical", which means only things that can be observed in a laboratory. The trouble with this logic is that what is observed is only apparently true until only one instance that breaks the rule. Let's take crows, for instance. I might argue with a skeptic that I saw a white crow. The skeptic would argue that all crows are black, because only black crows have ever been observed. Yet, white crows do exist, and not just albino crows!


    The fact is that there are no "rules" of nature, and all that science can provide is evidence, NOT proof. So, for anyone to prove that reincarnation does not exist is impossible.
     
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    After all the 'hits' I've taken regarding my experience...I'd be the type that would just raise an eyebrow, shrug and go about the rest of the day, cuppa in hand knowing otherwise. ;)
     
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    That about sums it up for me...
     
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    I have seen proof that reincarnation is real. Because of that I would put that information in my trash bin to be deleted permanently.
     
  24. Tinkerman

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    I believe strongly that we each must learn our own truths. A "scientist" has no more weight in my book than Danny the plumber. I have accepted my own truths after years of deep and intense introspection and study. My experience and understanding is pretty certain, to alter that would be interesting. I can think of nothing right now, other than a visit with God, that could change that. Knowledge of this nature, IMO, is part of the personal and very intimate understandings we have with the cosmos and the Creator (Whom ever you believe Her to be). So I guess what I'm saying is my reaction would be total skepticism. I'd ignore them just like Chris Columbus and other early sailors ignored the flat-lander scientists and their "proofs." : angel


    Good question Shiftkitty.


    Tinkerman
     
  25. Jody

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    I agree with Nightrain and Tinkerman. First of all, you *can't* disprove something like reincarnation, logically. Even if you could, who should I believe, my own experience or some scientist who isn't any more qualified to expound upon the subject than I am?


    Now, if I get to heaven, and God Himself tells me there isn't any such thing, no worries ... I made it to heaven, didn't I? And if there is no heaven, or life after death, no harm, no foul ... :cool
     

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