More Souls Choosing to be Female?

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  1. Harper.

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    No, not exactly,

    People can have say hundreds of lives but only remember the ones that currently resonate,

    Not the same reactions, imagine being born female, after being male, you don’t see the opposite sex the same way you did,
    You are still straight, but you see from a different point of view,

    From my perspective, my experience, being female was an orchestra of range of feeling, a richer experience,
    Compared to being male, which was more a penny whistle in its simplicity LOL

    So while the soul is the same, it’s still coloured by experience, everything works by association,
    Why do you have a fear or phobia at birth?, likes or dislikes? preference,

    Souls develop, or you learn nothing,
    Those that fail to learn repeat themselves
     
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    Ain't that the truth? I had a rough day the other day and just kind of lost control of my emotions, and I remember thinking how much easier life seemed as a man lol. A lot of my PLs were male and they never worried about feelings, they just worked right through them. It kind of sucks sometimes, but I think I'd rather feel things.
     
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    True, guys are the trouble shooters, thinking is streamlined to get to conclusions quicker,
    It’s about practicality and function, no time to smell the roses,

    But, you know there are more girls (as a percentage) than boys being born every year,
    Souls are choosing to come back as girls instead of guys,
     
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    I don't know if more souls wish to be born as females, but just this morning I read that there is a 1.07 ratio males/females being born these past years, due to various factors..

    And I smiled at the image you used (the roses), as I am the kind of man to pay so much attention to the roses that I forget where I was going :D
     
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    Yeah, I understand the basic differences between genders but I don't buy overgeneralizations. At best there have been contexts in history in which men have been asked to suppress their emotions, but it doesn't necessarily mean those weren't there.

    The assumption that more individuals should choose to be born a certain gender is in itself ridiculous and oblivious of the fact that there is a Divine Feminine principle and a Divine Masculine. Both are essential, and they don't always follow biological gender, they can even coexist in the same individual.
    Fluctuations in the ratio are casual and it's normal that they occur.
     
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    No,
    It’s not just a complex social structure in how men think,
    In my opinion, you are interpreting what you want to see, instead of what’s said,

    I think men have a simplified streamlined way of thinking, this streamlining also applies to emotions, they don’t lack emotion, just the complexities,

    And it’s not an “assumption” you get to choose what sex you want to be before coming here,
    Yes everyone has a masculine and feminine side, but once born your perspective shifts to one or other,

    That’s why in every reincarnation i’ve had i’ve alternated between male and female, and not been gay, but straight within the sex chosen,
     
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    I do not practice Wicca or anything tbh. The way you said there are more people reincarnating into females kinda sounded to me like it was a progression in some evolution rather than a casual fluctuation of the ratio. Maybe I was misunderstanding your intent, but globally speaking it's still a statistical fluctuation to me.
    Also imo sexual preferences (as in being straight or not) are not so strictly connected to one's gender, but I digress.

    Personally I see no noticeable difference between my emotional self now and my distant past one -of whom I can remember more in that sense. Perhaps I was just atypical though. Hormones probably make a difference (even more than genetic gender), and apparently I didn't have too many of them at that point. Many more factors come into play.

    No one has the absolute truth, the best we can do is give our opinions.
     
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    Harper the notion that men have a more simplified, streamlined thinking is nonsense from my perspective.

    The best you can say is that YOU have a more simplified, streamlined thinking.

    Also my emotional life has been as rich as a woman's.

    I wouldn't have been the General I was based on your criteria. The fact that I had a ruthlessness doesn't mean I didn't have a rich emotional life. I feel it with my daughter, my family, my lovers and on and on.

    Also simplified, streamlined thinking wouldn't have helped me in battle. I left that to some of the men under my command. I had a vision.

    You shouldn't generalise about such things.
     
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    I don´t believe any of us has the ultimate truth, so it´s all just opinions, hypothesis, guesses and your assumptions from what you think you have experienced.
    As much as I know, or think I know, I have been mostly male and yes, I think I chose to be female this time around - but it´s not as easy going as I wished it was. I´m still more male inside, and I have a hard time to work things out.

    Compared to my PL self my current one is definitly influenced by hormones.
    Anyway, my Pl self was facing a great complexity in emotions too, and being him I was crying as well. I don´t see the enormous difference some describe here.
    When it comes to smell roses though, I gotta admit for some reason I dislike them a lot. Like the smell of lavender I can´t stand it. I do like the smell of grass at least. Most flowers are not for me ;)

    The difference in male/female births, if taken from international statistics, is influenced by the fact that boys are still more wanted in certain cultures (abortions) and the fact that girls are over all healthier due to the double X chromosomes and more likely to survive.
     
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    While this thread originally was about White Rose's problems to retrieve more actual memories...

    Gender roles are there, have always been there and most likely will always be there, just that the actual details have changed over time. Nowadays writing love poetry, dancing or wearing pants often is considered "unmanly", but when you go back a few centuries... just as an example.

    Maybe we should continue this discussion about gender roles in another thread and go back to the original topic here: what could help White Rose to actually remember more of her past lives?
     
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    No, you are wrong in all your assumptions,
    Do you know what I know?
    Do you know how I know?

    Obviously not, so how can you assume?

    I don’t ask you to believe me,
    I do ask for you to do your homework before making assumptions

    And again you are wrong on birth rates, it’s not just cultural preference,
    It’s a local, and global issue,

    I could go in to more detail on this, but I doubt you would believe me,

    I have no agenda here, I have told the truth,
    I understand with forums like this it would attract a certain percentage of people more focused on fantasy rather than reality,
    And that could account for your degree of skepticism,

    But again, the only way to validate my comments is for you to do your own homework, independent of this forum, study, study, study,
    Then come to a conclusion,

    Sound fair?
     
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    And what if someone does all that (or has already done so) and comes to a different conclusion?
     
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    Then at least it will be an informed conclusion and one not based on assumption
     
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    So are you saying, Harper, that its a fact that men have more streamlined, simplified thinking than women?

    Are you also saying its a fact that women have a richer emotional life than men?

    On what facts do you base those assumptions?

    Have you ever been in love?

    What's true for you isn't true for me. I was a problem solver but my mind was never simplified. Its true women generally are more emotional than men but that doesn't mean I don't have complicated emotions. It just means that I choose not to show them for the most part.
     
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    You just kept repeating that you were telling the truth, saying that others had to do their homework to get to your same truth, not saying that it is just your opinion or your view of things. There is a difference, if you hadn't noticed. You end up sounding quite arrogant this way.
    Besides, you just stated your opinions as truth without anything solid to back them up. If your experience of emotions and thinking as a man is simpler, that's ok for you but I wouldn't overgeneralize as you did. It's still your subjective experience. Science is based on evidence, not on subjectivity.
     
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    I always treat people fairly and rational

    It’s hard to tell the difference on the internet between those that want to know the truth but make mistakes
    And those that feel i’m threatening to there pet fantasies, and negative agendas

    I give everyone the doubt until proven otherwise,

    I’m not trying to convince you,
    Don’t believe anything I say,

    But do your homework instead of trying to dismiss what I say out of ignorance or maliciously out of context,
    Know the difference between assumption and fact,
     
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    Harper, I understand that I am wasting my time replying to someone who keeps repeating that other people either make mistakes or have fantasies or negative agendas, while they simply have different experiences and opinions.
     
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    ***Reopening this thread with a few tweaks where discussion veered toward personal attacks/name calling and deleted other comments where these things were mentioned.
    I think the topic of gender and reincarnation is quite fascinating; I’d like to see the discussion continue. However, if we can’t keep the thread respectful, it’s getting locked and pulled.***
     
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    Hi Harper,

    I'm not an expert in this area, but do like to try and keep up with the articles that come out. So, though I do not disagree with much of what you have said about the real and distinctive mental and emotional differences between males and females, I feel compelled to point out that these are only true as generalities or averages. However, I think the research shows that there is considerable overlap. Jung discussed the differences in terms of Eros and Logos, which I take to mean feeling/intuition vs. thinking/sensing (or maybe reason/judgment) in his lingo. I think more recently I have seen the relevant factors shown on bell curve type graphs of empathy vs. analysis. (i.e., on a X-Y chart with empathy at one end of the horizontal (X) axis and analysis at the other, while number of females/males at each position on the scale between the two horizontal poles was charted on the Y-axis). I suppose there are other ways of discussing the basic differences. However, the point is that these traits seem to fall on overlapping bell curves with the female peak closer to the “empathy” end of the scale and male peak closer to the “analysis” end of the scale. Nonetheless, in an individual case, it is possible to find a female who is farther towards the “analysis” side of the scale than some men and most women. Likewise, it is possible to find some men who are farther towards the “feeling” side of the scale than some women and most men.

    In terms of alternating between female/male in reincarnation, Ian Stevenson’s research seems to show that “individuals” tend to reincarnate far more often in one gender or the other. (Actually, his ratios were about 1 or 2 cross-gender incarnations out of 10 past lives). To me that indicates that the basic differences are not merely biological, but indicative of innate soul/spirit traits. This implies (to me) that masculine/feminine are characteristics that transcend biological sex. On a personal level I see this as part of the basic yin/yang of the universe, but where there are varying amounts of yin in the yang and vice versa. Others differ, and see the soul as beyond gender distinctions. There have been some very long (and often contentious) discussions on the board related to this subject.

    In terms of the statistical arguments about whether there are more boys or girls being born at the moment, links to various articles, studies, etc. would probably be helpful.

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--After living for 6+ decades, I can safely say that I have found that most of the differences between boys/men and girls/women that I learned as a child are true--as generalities--not as absolutes. So, best not to use them for stereotype enforcement. However, I can also say that modern society probably does a greater disservice to a greater number of people by trying to create and enforce an opposing stereotype where boys/men are supposed to act more stereotypically female and girls/women are supposed to act more stereotypically male. The end result is to create and enforce a gender neutral stereotype that almost no one will fit and that is, therefore, even more oppressive than anything imposed in the past.
     
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    S&S. I've also read studies that say women are generally more emphatic than men and that men are generally more analytical than women but that's not the same as what Harper is saying.

    Harper says men have more simplified thinking than women. Firstly that's a blanket statement and secondly men aren't more simplified in their thinking than women. That's simply not true, especially since studies reveal analytical thinking which points to a complex intelligence.

    Harper also said that women have richer emotions than men. Again that's a blanket statement. Also men are capable of just as much complex emotions as women.

    Harper reminds me of some men's attitude to me during the times of the two women I have deeply loved in my life. I loved them because they were soulmates yet they also happened to be physically beautiful, so some men simply assumed my feelings were merely based on sexual desire because they had never felt true love themselves.

    Harper displays that level of emotional intelligence. I don't feel that he is in a position to say that all men have the same range of emotions as him.
     
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    Hi Jim,

    I'm not sure where to put "thinking" on the scales involved. We all--male and female--think. A person can think/consider things from closer to the "empathy" end of the scale or closer to the "analytical" end of the scale. Based on what I have read, it does seem that the average male will be somewhat less engaged in/by empathy/feelings and more analytical while engaging in "thinking". Likewise, the average female will be more engaged in/by empathy/feelings and somewhat less analytical while engaging in "thinking".

    I think what Harper was saying is that being more engaged in feelings while simultaneously engaged in analysis makes the process of analysis (and thinking) more complex and less streamlined. Maybe that is not what he is saying. o_O However, if that is what he is saying, I probably agree with him. ;)

    Cordially,
    S&S

    PS--I know from personal experience that my ability to engage in thinking from a purely analytical standpoint suffers greatly when I'm distracted by a lot of emotions. My work requires a lot of the former, and when the latter comes into play my ability to get my work done usually goes out the window. :confused:
     
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    When I read the question "More souls choosing to be female?" several things came to mind:
    • Medical speaking female babies stand a better chance for survival ?
    • Spiritual-wise: Girls and women are still in this modern day around the world living in suppression. The idea that they have less value. In some countries some even chose to abort or kill or give away babies because they were girls and the families thought having a boy was more valuable.
    • Once when I was in meditation I saw suffragettes and was one of them, not at all the front leaders or anything but part of fighting the same cause. At the time I thought things like we were meant to be here, all of us, to fight, that we were needed to be part of the fight, that girls and women were suffering in ways that boys and men could not identify themselves with. The best thing to know how something feels is to feel it one self, right? "Walk a mile in my shoes...", that type of thing.

    Just my thoughts...
    /Jaimie
     
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    Hi S&S.

    I, personally, am able to approach problems from both ends of the scale as the situation depends it. It made me a most effective leader so while I can't ever remember being female I am well versed in the battle between empathy and analytical thinking.

    So are you saying that women have more chaotic minds and emotions generally then men? That an average woman is incapable of clear minded thinking? I can only speak from the perspective of the women I have had dealings with. One of the women I loved was very clear minded and ambitious yet she also had a high degree of empathy. Obviously at times she made foolish mistakes but she reached the top of her chosen field. She had focus like a laser beam yet managed to be divorced from the ruthlessness inherant to analytical thinking. What I'm saying is that she outshone most men in her profession and did it without losing what made her a woman.

    All that is required from men and women is self discipline. The ability to managed emotions and thinking at both ends of the spectrum. In that event and in my experience that balancing act levels any differences between men and women. Both genders are compatible and complimentary in their similarities and differences. That doesn't mean men are generally less complex and have shallower emotions than women. It just means they must discipline themselves to play to their gender complimentary strengths IMO.
     
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    SeaandSky,

    Well I will put my two cents in on this topic as to why more souls are choosing to be female.

    In this lifetime I am male. However soul in its natural state is either male or female. We are for a better term gender neutral as within soul both positive and negative polarities within consciousness are in perfect balance. We only experience gender when we incarnate. This is because here we live in a world of duality where everything has it's opposite. So we have all experienced being the opposite gender at some point in our many lifetimes here on this earth to balance us out as soul. The earth as a whole has been for the most part male dominated as a group consciousness on this planet for last 2000 years or so. However the heart chakra of planet earth has opened up in the last few decades causing a shift in polarity on the group consciousness of planet earth as we go from the late young soul stage of consciousness to a mature soul stage of awareness in the general population.

    Which is why there are so many changes happening all over the planet both on an individual level and also within countries, governments, social awareness and acceptances like race, sexual orientation, those born transgender ect.. So many souls are choosing to be female during this time to take part and help the planet evolve to a higher state of awareness. This does not mean that men can't feel or have emotional awareness far from it. It's just that those lessons are more easily learned if one is female in many cultures still however that is changing. The ideal state of either gender is to be balanced in polarity of consciousness no matter what gender you happened to be in at present. Just like with gay people who face discrimination still to a point it does not matter who you love... what matters is you love. This state of awareness comes from a higher state of being within the higher dimensions. This is where the heart chakra comes from as it is the bridge between the higher and lower dimensions within man.

    So many women can be strong thinkers, analytical, show bravery and strong convictions in what they want to achieve and not be limited by social norms, just as men can be strong and tuff when need be yet kind, gentle and caring when the occasions arrives to do so. Both genders need to be in touch with their feeling and not be afraid to show emotion and express it when needed because in the end it take courage to love for both. In the end this is why we are all here. So that the soul may know itself by it's own experience.

    Love and peace to all..

    P.
     
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    Hi Jim,

    Remember, all graphs and analysis based on graphs are just statistical compilations. They do not say what is possible in any individual case, just what the normal bell-curve distribution of men or women is--at the present moment--assuming they are done correctly. However, there always are, and always have been people who do not fit into the normative distribution of attributes--THANK GOD!! The world would be a much poorer place without them. So, all the things you have discussed are quite possible. There will always be exceptions to every "rule" (or norm) when it comes to human behavior and abilities.

    Hi Polaris,

    The graphs discussed measure where things are at present for the great number of people. As noted above, they do not say that there cannot be people who do not fit into the normal trait distribution in the graphs. There always are exceptions. Likewise, they do not say what things might look like a century from now, nor do they say what things might have looked like a century ago. I tend to think that a century ago, there was even less overlap between the two bell curves and that we are moving towards more overlap, but only the future will tell.

    To Whoever,

    I think a lot of things are being said that seem somewhat defensive in nature, when that is not really necessary. Neither type of thinking is innately inferior to the other. It depends on what is being "thought" about. When working as an electrical engineer and designing complex systems within the scope of that skill area to accomplish a specific electric design goal, pure analysis is going to be more necessary than empathy. However, when working with human beings and groups of human beings, you better bring a lot empathy and intuition with you. Different areas call for different abilities and skill sets.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    Few things get me lets say "triggered" than the usual social programming that makes sexism towards men not only ok but encouraged which is immensely rage inducing at times as most men don't have it easy nor is their any privilege of just being male. Some of the reasons that immediately comes to mind why more souls wanting to come into this world as female is mostly down to there being far fewer social pressures to stunt emotional and spiritual growth while men get worked like machines especially in Asian nations where basically life is nothing but an endless grind. As for non conforming males being between a rock and a hard place going against the grain one has to live with and just suffer through as that is all there is....

    The male condition boils down to one of endless work, soul crushing emotional blockages, and almost non existent spiritual growth other than what $ociety doles out.
     
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    Hi TBA,

    I don't agree with every thing you have just said, but overall, you are right on point! And, as you say, in most cases:

    "The male condition boils down to one of endless work, soul crushing emotional blockages, and almost non existent spiritual growth other than what $ociety doles out."

    Not true for everyone of course, but that is what we're programmed for, and the burden we're encouraged (or even demanded) to accept.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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    Oh wow :rolleyes: this reminds me of the minion shouting "illumination!!":D
     
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    Despite it being only a two-page thread (at the time of me posting in it), I don't feel like reading this whole thread from its first post to its most recent one. But if it is true that more souls are choosing to be female, it's an interesting concept, given I'm one of those souls with that preference. Being male physically is a traumatic experience that's left a foul taste in my mouth. I really can't wait until it's over.
     
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    Hi DO,

    We also have some folks on the board who are doing their best to cope with a "move" from the opposite direction (from male to female). So, it works both ways. What I notice is that a lot of these moves seem to come on the heels of a traumatic lifetime/death as the other sex. So, e.g., we have some current females on the board who recall dying in war and coming back on purpose in a form where they could avoid that fate, etc. I've always thought from the very sketchy impressions you had of a possible PL, that you might have had a similar experience of moving from the opposite direction (F to M) with death as a female caused by ?? . But, just guessin'.

    Cordially,
    S&S
     
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