My son wants to go to restaurant where he worked...

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  1. yulia

    yulia New Member

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    Hi everyone,

    It is past 2 AM, but I'm up, cause I can't sleep after what my son said today.

    Just a note -- I've read both Carol's books years ago (before he was born) and I thought I was prepared, but I am lost and agitated. I don't know if there is a "next" step to this.

    Anyways, my son is now three and a half. Today we were driving home when he saddenly started stating that he saw something or knows this restaurant where he wants to go to eat. He said there is a restaurant with sign that has a picture of "A word we couldn't make out" on it. My son often goes out with uncles and grandparents. So I wanted to figure out what he wants, so we can maybe go there. And trying to figure out what restaurant it was, I asked, did you go there with uncle (name)? Or with mama? He said "no". He went there before. Before he went to different school (? he only ever went to one school). I asked, "when you were little?". He said something like "before". I asked how big where you (my son has a good sense that his baby brother is small, and he used to be small, so I was trying to figure out whether he's talking a week or a month ago). He said "I was big like papa".

    My husband and I just chocked. I asked him, what did you do there? (as in play, being naughty, what did you eat, etc...) He said he was cooking. He was putting pot on fire and making black french fries. He was adamant that he made french fries, but not yellow, cause not potatoes. Something about sticks. And then washed pots.

    He was behaving oddly. Sometimes he'd sit back relaxed, and then he'd just start saying things like he was so sure.

    He said all customers were bad. They were masks. Black masks and red clothes. They wore them inside restaurant. All the time. (I specifically asked if it was halloween or holiday, but he adamantly said "no", all the time when they came to restaurant). And the customers were hitting each other. All the time hitting.

    He was talking a lot about masks. There was mask of monster on the ceiling. He kept saying odd things about ceiling. either mask or monster on it, but he didn't waver about it.

    At one point he suddenly started saying how he was cooking in the pot, and then putting on fire, and dropped everything, and then looked up and saw the mask on ceiling, and it went "boom" "boom", but he is ok.

    He also said a "Gala man" (?) came in and told everyone to leave, and when they didn't he pulled his stick and (at this he started making "boom" and those kind of noises and saying that something on ceiling (?) exploded. I would've written this off to imagination, but when he mentioned this Gala Man, he suddenly started talking in a seriously creapy low voice. "Get out of my restaurant! Get out of here... If you... etc..." I couldn't even make it out, but he was suddenly strangely focused and talking fast something in the low hissy voice. It was like he was imitating someone, but he was so "inside it". I couldn't even make out all he was saying. But my son does not talk like that. The flow was cohesive and sentenses structured without any usual "eh..." that he has. I literally shivered.

    He said other odd things. (And he was very angry we were not taking him there.) There were some strange details about how he cooked.

    But it also how he said it. He grabbed a box from the car door (he never uses examples) and started quickly saying that there is this big box, and fire inside, and he puts something there, and pushes button and fire pops up. (I cook on all electric appliances. He might have seen something on TV on homecooking channel, but it didn't sound like regular fire stove I know of).

    I don't know what to do next. He has strong fear of masks. In fact, he has a whole set of fears and quirks. Will talking about it scare him more?

    Any ideas? Any ideas about what kind of people would wear red clothes and black masks in a "restaurant", and be always hitting? (Fighting? my son doesn't know the word "Fighting". Maybe that's what he ment). And why did he suddenly bring it up and want to go there?
     
  2. Karoliina

    Karoliina Moderator Emerita

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    Hello Yulia and thanks for sharing your son's story. :)


    Members often say that no matter how well they think they are prepared, and know a lot about reincarnation and children's past life experiences, it can be shocking to hear your own child talking about strange memories. So you're not alone. hug2.gif


    Children often start talking about past life memories in a car, whose movement and steady drone of the motor can lull them to an altered state. Also seeing something from the car window can trigger a memory.


    I don't think you have to be worried about your son's experience. Of course, if he has many fears that make his life difficult, it would be a good idea to try and solve where they are coming from and what could be done to help him.


    It could be all the things your son told will make sense in the end, but it's also possible he was mixing past life experiences with fantasy elements that he's seen in for example TV or books. However, it sounds like he's been a cook in a restaurant and something violent has happened there.


    I have to go now, but I'll post a couple of links a little later for you to learn more about how to deal with this. Don't worry, there's nothing wrong with your son and what he's going through is normal! :)


    Karoliina
     
  3. Kay

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    Hi Yulia welcome to the forum. Thank you for sharing your son's story with us. It can be a good idea to keep a journal to record your son's memories as it can be common for the memories to fade when the child gets older. I don't know for sure but it might also be able to help piece the memories together easier to get a clearer indication of this pastlife if he talks more about it in the future. There are many great posts here from parents discussing their child's memories that I hope you will enjoy and might find helpful.


    Kind Regards


    Kay.
     
  4. IrisG.

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    Could it be that the "masks" he refers to are actually helmets? Then they could be part of a uniform or part of equipment for sports. I could imagine that the "restaurant" could have been part of a sport stadion (a food-point there)and that his customers might have been competing sports-teams (football, baseball, whatever). He could have simultaneously watched the game (people "fighting") and done his cooking. My first idea of people with red clothes and a mask was an image of football or ice-hockey players. I am not from the U. S. so I don`t know about major desasters involving sport arenas but maybe other members have an idea? Maybe you could casually place pictures of football players where your son could find them and see if he is familiar with the uniforms.
     
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    Accra sports-stadium desaster


    From wikipedia I gathered some information about the "Accra Sports stadion desaster" which took place in Ghana in 2001. It happened during a soccer-match due to agitated fans. One of the teams involved ususally wears red tricots. In Africa, masks are a very common decoration so it is possible that they have them on the walls of food points there. Plus "Accra" starts with the letter "A". But maybe this is far-fetched and my imagination is running wild...:confused:
     
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    Thank you everyone! I am a bit less agitated now in the morning, so I'm more rational...


    Karolina: Thank you for the list. I am going to look into it today. I also found that I still have Carol's first book, so I'm going to be doing my refresher reading...


    Kay: I wrote most of it down as soon as we got home. I don't know if more is coming. I'm afraid to probe him because he does have a whole set of fears, and I'm afraid of making it worse.


    IrisG: I was also wondering if the "hitting" had to do with sports. I'm not sure about the stadium, though, because stadiums have no roofs or ceiling, and he is adamant that there is something about the ceiling. Either ceiling falling, or something falling from the ceiling. (He doesn't speak too clearly yet in general). In fact he stated that one time he yelled out the window to the "service man" "Are you gonna fix this ceiling?". He was saying so many things yesterday and in such agitation but I didn't get all the details down (he's not always easy to understand. He adds frustrated arm waves and makes all kinds of sounds when trying to explain). Also, he knows about hockey and sports, and I think if they were playing he'd say that. But he was adamant that they were "hitting". He never wavered from that. Maybe martial arts? But I can't think of any martial arts that wear masks, and he kept saying over and over about the black masks and red outfits. And that he wasn't wearing red, he was wearing green. Cause he was in the kitchen.


    Basically, I want to find out what's bothering him if it's tied to his fears. But I don't want to make them worse.
     
  8. ChrisR

    ChrisR Administrator Emeritus Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Hi yulia,


    Thanks for sharing your son's story, welcome to the forum. I have to say that I agree with Curious Girl, reading about your son's experience brought an Asian culture to mind, Chinese perhaps? The 'monster on the ceiling' made me visualize a Chinese Dragon ... a popular emblem in China, maybe you could look up a picture of one on the internet (and Chinese masks) and show your son and see if/how he reacts, I may be way off, but it's a start. It's always a good idea if you can get him to draw pictures and tell you what he's drawing, he may be able to express himself better that way.


    I know that masks are very popular in Asian culture too, although I'm not so sure about who would be wearing them every day.


    You have a lot of information to research anyway (I might do a spot of Googling myself later) - :D - Please keep us updated if you find out any more, and don't forget to keep a journal of everything your son says.


    Chris - :)
     
  9. ButterflyPsyche

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    HI, Yulia! Welcome to the forum! Thank you for sharing all of this with us. I am sure it is quite overwhelming, I guess you are never "prepared".


    Right now, I would focus on listening and seeing if getting his story out calms him down. Once you start journaling as Chris suggested, you can see what elements are consistent and then maybe you will have more to research, it will be limited and give you more direction.


    The FAQ threads are really helpful, but overall just keep tabs on your son's emotional temperature.


    I was thinking of Asian culture, but a little later since it was a restaurant, with something fried like French Fries--maybe Mao and the cultural revolution? They wore red.
    http://archive.maas.museum/hsc/evrev/cultural_revolution.html


    This page says they wore white masks to prevent spread of disease, not black though.


    There was lots of fighting as the "Four Olds" were eliminated.


    Or perhaps motorcyclists- they would have helmets?


    I wonder if you could get him to describe the black french fries more and take that as a lead?


    There are probably many things that will "fit" and only time will tell.


    I wish you the best and I hope for an update soon. :)
     
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    OK, this is pure speculation, but... when you mentioned that your son cooked "black french fries" and "something about sticks" I immediately thought of burdock root -- known as "gobo" in Japanese. It is a long, thin, brown, fibrous root that looks very much like a stick. A very common way to prepare it in Japan is to slice it into matchsticks and simmer it with soy sauce and other flavors, which makes it turn dark brown. I could definitely see a kid describing this as black french fries.


    Here is a link to a picture: http://japanesefood.about.com/od/vegetable/r/kinpiragobo.htm


    So, what came to mind for me was a war situation -- the black masks and red clothes sounds to me like it could be a military uniform. Maybe your son was forced to cook for an aggressive occupying army, hence the fighting. (I wasn't clear as to whether they were fighting with each other or with other people in the restaurant, perhaps the locals?)


    Would you be willing to share some of the other details you mentioned, such as the "strange details" of how he cooked, and other things he said?


    The fact that he has a lot of anxieties and fears does suggest that this is past life related and that he's talking about it now in an attempt to move past it.
     
  11. yulia

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    Hi everyone,


    thanks for so much food for thought!


    He hasn't gone to the "state" again. He's mentioned "the restaurant" again, but he doesn't sound as convincing. Seems that he's recalling the conversation we had more than the event themselves. He usually likes to fantasize, which is why I think that if I probe him, he'll just invent details. So I am just going to wait and see if he volonteers any more info. He doesn't seem to be wanting to now.


    I was looking for some masks on screen when he came into the room. They didn't seem to mean anything to him. He wasn't interested. I asked him do you know what these are? Are these from "the restaurant", he said, "I don't know". But then as I was scrolling, he casually pointed to a couple. Those where some half/faced venetian masks. But he wasn't showing interest except he assumed that one on the screen is his and I want him to identify it. I pointed at couple full faced ones, but he said, "no, little mask". but wasn't sounding the same convincing way as he did on Thursday, so I'm not putting too much value on it.


    So, if he volonteers any information by himself, I'll post it here. Otherwise I'm afraid he'll just get too wrapped up in his imagination. I'm not even sure if he didn't point this mask to me due to some unrelated reasons.


    So it's a "wait and see" situation.


    PS: littlebug: There might be something to your point. I never heard about "gobo root". But as I was looking for pictures of it on google, my son suddenly screamed -- "sticks!". But then wouldn't say anything else. When I think about it, he loves rice (but only white), and he loves "miso soup". And when I was pregnant with him, I had hyperemesis (severe case of morning sickness that lasts all pregnancy). Towards the last few months I only ate (literally every day) at the same japanese restaurant, for that was the only food I could keep down. Never gobo root though... (they didn't have it).
     
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    It is interesting that he had a noticeable reaction to the picture of gobo! And also that you had to eat nothing but Japanese food towards the end of your pregnancy. Seems like something to keep in mind if/when he says something else.


    I think you are doing the right thing by not pushing him. Kids that age do have very active imaginations, and if he's not "in the zone" of accessing PL memories, you might be able to prod him to talk, but it won't necessarily be reliable.


    Please continue to update us!


    Beth
     
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    Hello Yulia and thank you for sharing this intriguing story! :)


    It certainly is very interesting that your son seem to react to the gobo. I was thinking that perhaps you could ask him to draw the restaurant, the masks - some of what he remembers. I know he's a toddler and may not have developed very good drawing skills yet, but perhaps his drawing could give a sense of the atmosphere and how he feels towards the memory.


    Please keep bringing updates - it's all very interesting :)
     
  14. vicky

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    Hi Yulia,


    I agree with Sunniva that sometimes drawing their past life desriptions helps. It helped my son.


    With my son, he didn't respond well if I asked him direct questions. He had some very intense fears and in the very beginning, after speaking about some of the fears and how they were related to his past life, the fear went away. So, I was motivated to have him talk more in an effort to resolve some of the fears.


    Anyway, if I waited until after bath when he was relaxed, I would lay down with him and ask him if he wanted to tell me anything else about ........


    The first thing that leaps to mind about the restaurant is that even people that wear masks would not wear them into a restaurant since they would presumably be there to eat. A robbery leaps to my mind. People that came there to rob the place and maybe fought with some of the patrons.


    Perhaps your son died in this fight.
     
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    I was also thinking that even though your son said that the customers wore the masks and were hitting "all the time", he still could be talking about a specific event, where the restaurant was maybe robbed and the robbers wore something black on their faces. It also sounds like the "gala man" was the owner of the restaurant and was trying to make the robbers leave.


    It sounds possible this happened in Japan due to several details, but I would still be open to other possibilities. I was wondering if your son is around any black people in this current life? If he isn't, maybe balck people in his memories could seem to him to be wearing black masks?


    It's a very good idea to not to push him to talk about this, but like Vicky said, talking often helps children with past life traumas, so finding a good moment and then asking carefully something simple, or suggesting he'd draw the restaurant, might be worth trying.


    Does he have any specific fears that you could see as connected to this memory of the restaurant (violence, shooting, fighting, ceilings falling etc.)?


    Karoliina
     
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    So many interesting ideas, I'd love to hear if he gives us more clues, Yulia. :)
     
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    Thank you for sharing your son's story. I only wish my boys would be so descriptive :)


    I too thought of an Asian culture/theme while reading this. It almost sounds like it was a robbery of some sort or I even thought of a "mafia" type situation. Because he said "all the customers are bad" and the hitting could refer to the fact that they were violent people. The following quote is what makes me think that it was some sort of "stick up":

    The stick makes me think it was sort of shotgun and the boom was him shooting, like the man pointed it to the ceiling and shot the ceiling causing it to "explode".


    At any rate, it does sound like it was traumatizing (sp?) and that maybe his present day fears are associated. I have read others on the boards have said that they reassure their children that they are in the here and now and safe and that that helps. I'm not really one to give any kind of advice on these things though as I am just a novice and recently interested in reincarnation :eek:


    Please do keep us updated!


    Dori
     

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