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Next Life Wishes

There and back again

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I am starting this thread that maybe for some to express what they would like in their next life or lives for that matter and perhaps add something different from the usual discussion especially in light of recent events over the past two going on three years.

For me personally I wish to move on to somewhere else given that the current civilization is entering an exceedingly dangerous phase in its overall decline I want to more or less just move on to focus more on just being able to enjoy living in a much less hostile climate ie somewhere else other than Earth. I would love to experience society that is not only culturally rich but vibrant where individuality and spirituality isn't so messy nor decided by labels or prepackaged all or nothing deals that is so common place in this world. I prefer a sense comfort and stability with a good solid foundation of good values that doesn't result in there being conflict unlike this world that rarely experiences stability. I want to make up for what I deeply feel to have been lost time and really move forward in a positive direction rather than the norm of having to deal with the mess of current society as well old baggage in all its forms for almost all of us in some capacity or another in this world.
 

Tinnos

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Seems like everyone's thinking of their next life lately. There's some threads on Reddit about it too. And I was just feeling like I was losing my mind for having visions of an imminent future life. Is it the war, or what?

I'm just hoping to remember as much as I can of this life and the ones that came before it.
 

Speedwell

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I'm just grateful for this present life. It took me so long to just learn how to live in this world, how to be myself. I'm in no hurry to give that up and start all over again as a baby, then school, years of confusion and bafflement, trying to make sense of things. It feels like every day I have now is a gift.
 

Totoro

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Speedwell, I agree. I think I hit the point I wanted to be at, so goes my life plan anyway. I don't want to give that up either or start over or whatever.

The war, all I feel like is I've been through this before, many times over many lives.

My personal opinion, I think the world has changed. Things like this through social media and other means are showing that people are just people the world over. I don't think anybody wants this. Nobody is blaming the average person and I don't think anyone wants to watch the world go down in flames.

We're seeing a tremendous support right now the world over. The response is different now. I think eventually, more good will come out of this little bit of bad we've been going through.
 

cloud potato

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In my land of make believe it would be a life more in tune with the nature of that planet. A society that doesn't teach dependency on external systems or profit off unhealthy habits. Advanced technology that can heal the planet and its creatures. One that blends material and immaterial. A unique understanding of consciousness and planes of psychic phenomenon we barely touch here. A world that abhors slavery in any form and fosters individual spirituality.

What I see happening now is reminiscent of a past life not bound to Earth- elitist playing both sides of the fields manipulating innocence and ushering in technological enslavement.

I agree with the sentiment that I have a lot of life to live in this personality. I've had a recent close call and it's been almost a month of hell. I think sometimes God allows us the ability to experience a life in tune with nature and Spirit despite the contrary direction of its species. We can achieve some of the things we wish for in another life in this life, for my self, it means not succumbing to victim mentality.
 
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Polaris8

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Speedwell, I agree. I think I hit the point I wanted to be at, so goes my life plan anyway. I don't want to give that up either or start over or whatever.

The war, all I feel like is I've been through this before, many times over many lives.

My personal opinion, I think the world has changed. Things like this through social media and other means are showing that people are just people the world over. I don't think anybody wants this. Nobody is blaming the average person and I don't think anyone wants to watch the world go down in flames.

We're seeing a tremendous support right now the world over. The response is different now. I think eventually, more good will come out of this little bit of bad we've been going through.

Totoro,
I tend to agree with your statement. Part of this change is because the group state of consciousness on a global level has changed over the decades. As planet earth is shifting from a late young soul state of consciousness which has been that way for the last 2000 years to a mature soul state of consciousness. Quote from Michael teaching.
  • While the young soul focuses on being assertive, competitive and successful, the mature soul focuses on being sensitive, cooperative and authentic.
  • While a young soul insists that its own perspective is right, the mature soul recognizes that other perspectives are equally valid.
  • While for the young soul self-interest is all-important, the mature soul is more concerned with the self-other relationship.
Mature Soul Perceptions
The mature soul develops an ever-deepening sense of both self and others. Life is no longer simply a matter of what happens out there in the world, but also what is going on inside of ones heart and mind. and where we are coming from, and the meaning of life itself.

Because of this, the war going on at present will be handled on a more global level as countries around the world gather together to stop the destruction, killing, ect..
Oddly enough Russia's leader is a young soul. So, for him it's about assertiveness, power and control over others. But the world has changed too much now . Many of us that are on this board have been through many wars over the course of our PL on earth. So those lessons are well engrained within our inner consciousness and how we perceive and treat others in the present.

As for what we want for our next lifetimes.... Well that decision is made from a much higher state of awareness then that of the human consciousness which tends to be limited. However, whatever dreams, hopes, and desires that were not fulfilled in this life will be by karmic law be lived out in the higher dimensions after death before the next incarnation. Perhaps that is why it is called Heaven.

Love and peace.

P.
 

There and back again

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Totoro,
I tend to agree with your statement. Part of this change is because the group state of consciousness on a global level has changed over the decades. As planet earth is shifting from a late young soul state of consciousness which has been that way for the last 2000 years to a mature soul state of consciousness. Quote from Michael teaching.
  • While the young soul focuses on being assertive, competitive and successful, the mature soul focuses on being sensitive, cooperative and authentic.
  • While a young soul insists that its own perspective is right, the mature soul recognizes that other perspectives are equally valid.
  • While for the young soul self-interest is all-important, the mature soul is more concerned with the self-other relationship.
Mature Soul Perceptions
The mature soul develops an ever-deepening sense of both self and others. Life is no longer simply a matter of what happens out there in the world, but also what is going on inside of ones heart and mind. and where we are coming from, and the meaning of life itself.

Because of this, the war going on at present will be handled on a more global level as countries around the world gather together to stop the destruction, killing, ect..
Oddly enough Russia's leader is a young soul. So, for him it's about assertiveness, power and control over others. But the world has changed too much now . Many of us that are on this board have been through many wars over the course of our PL on earth. So those lessons are well engrained within our inner consciousness and how we perceive and treat others in the present.

As for what we want for our next lifetimes.... Well that decision is made from a much higher state of awareness then that of the human consciousness which tends to be limited. However, whatever dreams, hopes, and desires that were not fulfilled in this life will be by karmic law be lived out in the higher dimensions after death before the next incarnation. Perhaps that is why it is called Heaven.

Love and peace.

P.

Your right only young souls experience pain and hardship while yourself is superior to us younger souls after all you don't have nor ever had to experience such.

 

Totoro

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@There and back again suffering is a constant in this existence. Part of growth and understanding our own humanity is understanding that everyone suffers; often in their own ways, which may be undetectable to an outside observer.

In my own observations, younger people and younger souls tend to believe that they have a monopoly on suffering, which they often wear as a badge of pride that seems to validate them in some existential way.

On the other hand, people (and their souls) who have started on the path towards growth and evolution, come to accept suffering as a part of life and begin to use it as a catalyst for personal insight and transformation.

For quite a while, that's a nearly private and internal process as the person re evaluates themselves and their place in the world / universe.

Eventually, it's turned outwards and expressed in kindness and empathy towards other people in a myriad of ways from the simple, to devoting entire lives towards it.

At the same time, people are completely free to choose not to grow if they don't wish too. I don't wish to expound on that the moment, so I'll leave for the time being.
 

Eva1942

A Walking Enigma...
As someone, who's not actually 'supposed to be here', I already know some aspects about my next life. As a soul who finds it very difficult to be here already, it's no wonder I continually seek these avenues. But, for me and many other Lightworkers and 'spiritually awake' people, our time to fulfil our life purposes as healers is happening right here, right now. We've been waiting for this.

Eva x
 

There and back again

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@There and back again suffering is a constant in this existence. Part of growth and understanding our own humanity is understanding that everyone suffers; often in their own ways, which may be undetectable to an outside observer.

In my own observations, younger people and younger souls tend to believe that they have a monopoly on suffering, which they often wear as a badge of pride that seems to validate them in some existential way.

On the other hand, people (and their souls) who have started on the path towards growth and evolution, come to accept suffering as a part of life and begin to use it as a catalyst for personal insight and transformation.

For quite a while, that's a nearly private and internal process as the person re evaluates themselves and their place in the world / universe.

Eventually, it's turned outwards and expressed in kindness and empathy towards other people in a myriad of ways from the simple, to devoting entire lives towards it.

At the same time, people are completely free to choose not to grow if they don't wish too. I don't wish to expound on that the moment, so I'll leave for the time being.

Personally I am just burnt out with the new age having to deal with toxic positivity, victim blaming (yes I've seen people gloating about how people who've died from covid deserved it ect) as well the multitude of cold detached, and emotionless machine like personalities that are clearly heartless lacking any kind of empathy regardless of the situation. It really does amaze me how far removed some can be from the human experience where they just don't feel anything at All never mind what is going on around them. Lastly I've become exhausted with some soul demographics for pushing ideology and having too much say in society for the past several hundred years for which much death has resulted. As for this time instead of a few tens of millions it could be several billion but to the ideologue that is ok as the means always justify the ends. Anyway I am very tired of this world and trying to make it work be it to play my part to help as the demographics both native and foreign are set in their ways though while this isn't my first that I've passed through I am giving up.
 

Speedwell

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From my perspective, it is very important to emphasise that we're all in this together. I'm very mistrustful of terms such as "old soul" or "young soul", any of that stuff. I just take it all with a big pinch of salt.

I walk down the street. The next person I meet may be a young parent, caring for a small child. It may be a a violent aggressor ready to cause my death. These are all the same. This is life, existence. Everybody has a story to tell. Ask someone, how did you get to this point?

A brief answer or even a long answer may only reveal the surface, what is happening today, maybe what happened in the last five minutes. But everyone has a story to tell.

This is a past-life forum so we focus on that. But it should not cloud the fact that every day, each person has their own daily difficulties to deal with. I'm not talking about saints and sinners, the extremes. But just the ordinary everyday run-of the-mill person. Everyone is so different, communication, even in the same language, is hard. But it seems that everyone, somewhere along the line, has suffering. It may be in childhood. It may be in adulthood. These are the things we gloss over. Have tea and biscuits and local gossip. But what is really going on, we may not know.

There is one thing which seems, across different circumstances, different backgrounds, to remain the same. Sooner or later there is a breaking point. What happens when there are no more options? Some sort of call out to a higher power, call this God if you like, but the name doesn't matter. When all else is exhausted in this world, there is only the world beyond to call upon.

It involves a letting go, an unclenching of the fist - whether to fight or to grasp is not important, a letting go. And into that space comes a glimpse of light. Hope.

I may be mistaken (I often am). But I came to the idea that that light, that Hope, perhaps coming to our aid, is following the laws of free-will. That is, first we need to ask. There is a humility about this. A definite letting-go of ego, a dropping of all pretence. Then we may ask. When we ask, it will be given.

This is only my experience. I can't say what happens for anyone else.
 

Cryscat

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"Personally I am just burnt out with the new age having to deal with toxic positivity, victim blaming (yes I've seen people gloating about how people who've died from covid deserved it ect) as well the multitude of cold detached, and emotionless machine like personalities that are clearly heartless lacking any kind of empathy regardless of the situation"

Compassion fatigue. It's a thing and it's real. Even mature souls can get tired of covid denial, war and whatever else. Web MD has a page on Compassion fatigue.
 

There and back again

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"Personally I am just burnt out with the new age having to deal with toxic positivity, victim blaming (yes I've seen people gloating about how people who've died from covid deserved it ect) as well the multitude of cold detached, and emotionless machine like personalities that are clearly heartless lacking any kind of empathy regardless of the situation"

Compassion fatigue. It's a thing and it's real. Even mature souls can get tired of covid denial, war and whatever else. Web MD has a page on Compassion fatigue.

Sure that is an issue however it is plainly obvious even before that with a lot out there not having any kind of compassion to begin with after all just look at the state of the world over the past century yet they are ok with it all so long their own lives are prosperous and comfortable. They will care soon when they can't buy gas for their cars and the shops are empty from crippling shortages never mind issues with the power grids from cyber attacks. That cold disconnection from the rest of humanity comes at a cost as inaction leads to lasting consequences for all. Just comes to show that people never cared and were always heartless being the sort expecting others to pull themselves up by their boot straps.
 

Rod Turner

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Hmmmmm...my next life. Not sure I want to come back since I see the next hundred years as probably being an age of suck. I am, however, willing to return to aid in rebuilding in the next upward cycle, towards the Golden Age. Yes, I think this occurs, in cycles. It's easy to get caught in the trap of wishing for a future lifetime of being beautiful, rich, powerful, etc. I try not to fall into that. I cannot totally subscribe to the Gnostic idea of overcoming this world and never returning. I still think the earthly life has a purpose and is needed for our evolution as conscious beings. Hail Odin.
 

There and back again

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Hmmmmm...my next life. Not sure I want to come back since I see the next hundred years as probably being an age of suck. I am, however, willing to return to aid in rebuilding in the next upward cycle, towards the Golden Age. Yes, I think this occurs, in cycles. It's easy to get caught in the trap of wishing for a future lifetime of being beautiful, rich, powerful, etc. I try not to fall into that. I cannot totally subscribe to the Gnostic idea of overcoming this world and never returning. I still think the earthly life has a purpose and is needed for our evolution as conscious beings. Hail Odin.

Well there is good news and some bad news, the good news is that the future beyond this immediate hell hole are not bad but not perfect. One scenario is a bit of a slog but eventually everything recovers so those who actually like it here never mind the natives will have something worth coming back to. The second is really God/Source starting this over on pretty much a clean slate somewhere else out there that is out of reach of the problems that have been plaguing worlds like this and giving a much better overall experience for those who wish to continue this though once again not perfect but better than the first. As for the immediate future it will either come to a close with in the decade though with some chance sometime this year at the earliest. If we as humanity don't blow ourselves up then one may as well say we passed the test then the end will come as an natural event of some kind.
 

SeaAndSky

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Hi TABA,

First, I'm curious about your sources of information. Please explain where these predictions came from. Second, this is a definite downer. At least Rod only foresees "the next hundred years as probably being an age of suck". :cool: That's pretty gloomy, but definitely far more cheerful than your predictions :eek::

As for the immediate future it will either come to a close with in the decade though with some chance sometime this year at the earliest. If we as humanity don't blow ourselves up then one may as well say we passed the test then the end will come as an natural event of some kind.

Sheesh!! I think you just won the "Puddleglum" award, one which I usually award to myself, but on this occasion I think you beat me hands-down . . . . ;)

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I definitely have some wishes for my next lifetime (if I have to return), but I'm kinda nervous to put them down. Somehow it seems like it might jinx my chances, or else the between life bureaucracy or my higher self or ?? will decide that I need to get the exact opposite since I have obviously not reached the right state of loving joyful stoicism in all circumstances and am still not able to happily accept all circumstances--adverse or not. So, a little "tough love" might be in order and prescribed. o_O In a worst case scenario, I might end up like the poor soul here:

 
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Emma66

Once a Marine, always a Marine
Hi TABA,

First, I'm curious about your sources of information. Please explain where these predictions came from. Second, this is a definite downer. At least Rod only foresees "the next hundred years as probably being an age of suck". :cool: That's pretty gloomy, but definitely far more cheerful than your predictions :eek::

As for the immediate future it will either come to a close with in the decade though with some chance sometime this year at the earliest. If we as humanity don't blow ourselves up then one may as well say we passed the test then the end will come as an natural event of some kind.

Sheesh!! I think you just won the "Puddleglum" award, one which I usually award to myself, but on this occasion I think you beat me hands-down . . . . ;)

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I definitely have some wishes for my next lifetime (if I have to return), but I'm kinda nervous to put them down. Somehow it seems like it might jinx my chances, or else the between life bureaucracy or my higher self or ?? will decide that I need to get the exact opposite since I have obviously not reached the right state of loving joyful stoicism in all circumstances and am willing to happily accept all circumstances--adverse or not. So, a little "tough love" might be in order and prescribed. o_O In a worst case scenario, I might end up like the poor soul here:

Hi S&S,
What a great and funny cartoon. (not necessarily because it is french ;)! ).
I don’t really have any wishes for my next life. Of my past lives, even the saddest and shortest I remember brought me moments of happiness.
What will be will be...! :)
Best regards,
Emma
 
"Be careful what you wish for..."

I sometimes think that it may be better for what I seem to really want if I...
but what I wish for now while incarnated and what my soul/higher self/what ever really wants still may be quite different.

As for the polar opposite, I don't believe that listing personal wishes here will cause us to get the opposite.
It would make sense if we got the opposite anyway, depending on how these things work.
Will we get what we want or what we need?
What if what we need is to be confronted with our deepest and darkest fears so that we can overcome them?

I sometimes get the impression that the unverse has a weird sense of humor and likes to prove us wrong (when we think we know for sure how something works, when we think that something cannot work...)
What will my next life be like? What would I want it to be like?

It probably is best to take it like Emma and not to think about it too much.
"What will be, will be" indeed.
And now excuse me, because I have to post in the music thread. Blame Emma for that one. ;-)
 

There and back again

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Hi TABA,

First, I'm curious about your sources of information. Please explain where these predictions came from. Second, this is a definite downer. At least Rod only foresees "the next hundred years as probably being an age of suck". :cool: That's pretty gloomy, but definitely far more cheerful than your predictions :eek::

As for the immediate future it will either come to a close with in the decade though with some chance sometime this year at the earliest. If we as humanity don't blow ourselves up then one may as well say we passed the test then the end will come as an natural event of some kind.

Sheesh!! I think you just won the "Puddleglum" award, one which I usually award to myself, but on this occasion I think you beat me hands-down . . . . ;)

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I definitely have some wishes for my next lifetime (if I have to return), but I'm kinda nervous to put them down. Somehow it seems like it might jinx my chances, or else the between life bureaucracy or my higher self or ?? will decide that I need to get the exact opposite since I have obviously not reached the right state of loving joyful stoicism in all circumstances and am willing to happily accept all circumstances--adverse or not. So, a little "tough love" might be in order and prescribed. o_O In a worst case scenario, I might end up like the poor soul here:


You should see what has been going around in the churches well since the middle ages especially with the book of Revelation as there is some pretty wild stuff in there. As for stoicism personally I am not fond of it having been down that road in a couple of lives to where basically like so many others where I was chipping away aspects of myself in order to just fit in the small box of society to really be something I never was unlike some demographics where it is their norm so things like human emotions were highly repressed.
 

There and back again

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"Be careful what you wish for..."

I sometimes think that it may be better for what I seem to really want if I...
but what I wish for now while incarnated and what my soul/higher self/what ever really wants still may be quite different.

As for the polar opposite, I don't believe that listing personal wishes here will cause us to get the opposite.
It would make sense if we got the opposite anyway, depending on how these things work.
Will we get what we want or what we need?
What if what we need is to be confronted with our deepest and darkest fears so that we can overcome them?

I sometimes get the impression that the unverse has a weird sense of humor and likes to prove us wrong (when we think we know for sure how something works, when we think that something cannot work...)
What will my next life be like? What would I want it to be like?

It probably is best to take it like Emma and not to think about it too much.
"What will be, will be" indeed.
And now excuse me, because I have to post in the music thread. Blame Emma for that one. ;-)

"Be careful what you wish for"

Sounds like the world as it is now where some demographics like a hard grind gotten one hell of a cultural and social grindset for which a vast swath of society is trapped in a mouse utopia that is ultimately futureless but hey this world is exactly as some like it wars included. I never wished for this and only came here to help in a past era for which like so many others got left holding the bag. Oh well I look forward to just getting out regardless of whatever happens and is left behind at this point.
 

Klaud

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Seems like everyone's thinking of their next life lately. There's some threads on Reddit about it too. And I was just feeling like I was losing my mind for having visions of an imminent future life. Is it the war, or what?

I'm just hoping to remember as much as I can of this life and the ones that came before it.

I think it's more of a reflection of the over all times we're living in. It's chaotic and everything is more difficult and scary than it should be. There's this overwhelming sentiment of 'get me off this dying space rock' and like I get it. I don't actively want to die, just to be clear, but I'd love to be just about anywhere else in the universe at this point.
 

Klaud

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My only wish is to just go somewhere peaceful. I've been struggling in each incarnation for 1000+ years and I'm tired. My soul is tired, and I truly don't want to fight anymore. I'm not ungrateful for my life right now, as I have it FAR easier than all my past selves did and things could be so much worse than they are, but that doesn't mean living in the 2000s or my own upbringing has been a cakewalk. I feel like a grouchy old man stuck in the body of a 12 year old sized girl and I'm just kind of over it.

If I could have it the way I want it, there's a mother I had a few incarnations ago that I'd love to have a do over with where we both get to live long lives and be happy. I think we're ready to try again now that we've mended the relationship.
 

Bellona324

Bean of Culture
My wish is to be a man, and to have a more loving family. A family I can be close to. I want certain people in my life back but they aren’t incarnated at the moment. I want to be in a cold country too.

Whether I incarnate in war or peace, I think I’ve accepted that it doesn’t matter. I end up in war most of the time.
 

SeaAndSky

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You should see what has been going around in the churches well since the middle ages especially with the book of Revelation as there is some pretty wild stuff in there. As for stoicism personally I am not fond of it having been down that road in a couple of lives to where basically like so many others where I was chipping away aspects of myself in order to just fit in the small box of society to really be something I never was unlike some demographics where it is their norm so things like human emotions were highly repressed.

Hi TABA,

In terms of the Bible, I'm pretty familiar with the Book of Revelations, etc. You gave some fairly specific and immediate timelines. So, I was trying to get a handle on which verses you were thinking about being fulfilled or about to be fulfilled and why.

Cordially,
S&S
 

Speedwell

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Hi TABA,

In terms of the Bible, I'm pretty familiar with the Book of Revelations, etc. You gave some fairly specific and immediate timelines. So, I was trying to get a handle on which verses you were thinking about being fulfilled or about to be fulfilled and why.

Cordially,
S&S
In my view, every generation throughout history, over many centuries, has looked for their own current events being the fulfilment of Revelations. It seems a fruitless task. The next generation always comes along and again starts looking at their age as being the one.

Probably better to view things as a continuous flow, where every moment is important in its own right.

I remember back in the 1980s reading predictions of whole continents being submerged beneath the sea, dramatic events. There was even going to be some sort of Biblical prophet appearing simultaneously on every TV screen throughout the world. Fortunately an exact date was given for that one. The day came and went, nothing happened. Then we had the end of the 2nd millennium. Followed by the Mayan calendar date a dozen years later. All of these were said to be the end. But life went on.
 

SeaAndSky

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In my view, every generation throughout history, over many centuries, has looked for their own current events being the fulfilment of Revelations. It seems a fruitless task. The next generation always comes along and again starts looking at their age as being the one.

Probably better to view things as a continuous flow, where every moment is important in its own right.

I remember back in the 1980s reading predictions of whole continents being submerged beneath the sea, dramatic events. There was even going to be some sort of Biblical prophet appearing simultaneously on every TV screen throughout the world. Fortunately an exact date was given for that one. The day came and went, nothing happened. Then we had the end of the 2nd millennium. Followed by the Mayan calendar date a dozen years later. All of these were said to be the end. But life went on.

Hi Speedwell,

That is why I am seeking more specificity in the matter. Revelations is a difficult book, and subject to many different interpretations. Unfortunately, the fact that most theologians do not deem it worthwhile/productive to discuss or preach on the matter has merely left the field wide open for others to promote their own, sometimes fanciful ideas of imminent fulfilment. Some might see in this dilemma the truth of the old adage that "fools rush in where angels fear to tread".

There is some truth to that, but I won't go that far, as many of those filling the gap are not fools. However, they all tend to be devotees of what is known as the "Futurist" school of interpretation, and primarily its most recent iteration via Darby and the Scofield Bible. Still, only the most "cracked" devotees of this school of interpretation give exact dates. Most just broadly hint at the matter. Unfortunately, the former category with their busted predictions, being the only voices heard by the general public, bring not only the Book of Revelations into disrepute, but also Christians generally.

So, I am curious to know how TABA is approaching the matter and why.

Cordially,
S&S
 

Polaris8

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Your right only young souls experience pain and hardship while yourself is superior to us younger souls after all you don't have nor ever had to experience such.

There and back,

No my friend you are wrong. Mature and Old souls go thru their hardships and pain just like everyone else does. As we all are equal and loved as soul by god just the same. As soul evolves and become more aware of why it is here then when those hardships do come many understand why they are going thru those experiences because now they are more spiritual aware of why bad things happen to good people. Be it themselves or others in life.

Having that awareness does help in handling bad situations as they come in life. For the physical plane is where we burn off most of our karmic debit. It is also a place where we grow the most which is why so many of us come back here. I guess you can say the physical dimension is the boot camp for soul's spiritual education.

Love and peace

P.
 

There and back again

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There and back,

No my friend you are wrong. Mature and Old souls go thru their hardships and pain just like everyone else does. As we all are equal and loved as soul by god just the same. As soul evolves and become more aware of why it is here then when those hardships do come many understand why they are going thru those experiences because now they are more spiritual aware of why bad things happen to good people. Be it themselves or others in life.

Having that awareness does help in handling bad situations as they come in life. For the physical plane is where we burn off most of our karmic debit. It is also a place where we grow the most which is why so many of us come back here. I guess you can say the physical dimension is the boot camp for soul's spiritual education.

Love and peace

P.

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SeaAndSky

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Hi TABA,

I'm interested. My belief system includes what most would call "evil archons" as part of the mix. Actually, it sees this planet as a battleground, but I don't really want to drag in too many variables when all I really want to do is get a link to the site and thread from which this conversation was pasted.

Thanks.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I have spent years engaging with John Tat on similar issues on his thread. When his thread was closed, we continued discussions on this issue, sub rosa. Anyhow, he always believed something somewhat similar about the reincarnation process, though we are completely at odds over who the "bad guys" are in this scenario. Also, I have long had my doubts about the scenario painted by John Newton in his two books. They initially overwhelmed me, and I still consider them to be powerful evidence, but not without some doubts. Somehow, it all seems a bit to "pat" and perfect to me. This is especially true as the system he portrays purports to be all inclusive, but there are cases where people don't seem to participate and/or seem to reincarnate without being part of this scenario. So, ???
 
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