reincarnation or something more.???

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  1. Nangijala

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    You mentioned this "proper couple" thing several times. I suppose you are a recently united couple. Forgive me but do you have maybe any problems in your relationship since you are living together? The start of an every day routine can be very stressful for lovers. Maybe there are things you should discuss with your partner.
     
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    Any news matthew?
     
  3. matthew46

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    still bizzare


    Hi to all


    As you can see it has been a while since my last communications but none the less very eventfull..!!.over the last few months the situation became very extreme as we had visits daily and nightly our pillows were snatched from under myself and partner the duvet tugging became a regular thing...it was raised in the air most nights along with the scratching of the mattress. I witnessed a basket of timber and one of laundry slide across the floor in broad daylight....so so many things happened but by various methods of communication..ie tapping the alphabet we discovered that there were 2 poltergiests male and female...plus children...the reason they are here was to get us to leave the house in fact it got so bad that on a few occasions doors were slammed so hard after going through them. On one particular day i came from the kitchen to the living room and found a 6 inch nail that had the tip nailed into the floor..that was scary.!.


    We moved away from that house around the 25th of january as it was always part of our plan so not totally running scared. Our new house is about 20 miles away and YES they followed us on the very first night the duvet began to get pulled downwards off the bed and we have a visit almost every night it could last 30 mins to hour and a half...


    Since moving here we have discovered so so many things whole conversations are had by tapping out the alphabet ...past things and future things...warnings and what and where we go after we pass over...one discription was of a very bright place always in light...but no god..also discribed that its a heaven but not as we know it.


    I know all this sounds so so far fetched but i could nearly write a book on what we have been told by these poltergiests and that is what they say they are..they are here to help and want us as couple to stay together for ever ...dont get me wrong when they are annoyed about a situation the communication can be quite scary ie loud scratching...quilt lifted right up into the air...however we have kind of got used to them and the things they can tell us are amazing from reading a private text message to something that happened to me over 40 yrs ago..!!


    Totally mind boggling but all so true we live with it nearly every day


    Thanks for reafing
     
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    Have you thought about telling them to go away or getting a specialist to cleanse both you and your house? Because it sounds like a lot of unwanted things are happening along with the information they seem to be giving you. I would warn also to not trust 100% everything they are telling you as you do not know their intentions or what kind of entities they are and on what plane they may be operating from. I've heard stories about spirits from very low planes who are jealous of people who are alive who will try to deceive people who attempt to communicate with them and who will act like the information is from a higher spiritual power. Seriously, beware!
     
  5. matthew46

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    Hi


    The intention that they have told us is to keep myself and partner together as a couple and to guide and help us...not tell us what to do but make the right choices for us. We intend moving to the uk next month and they have told us they will follow us they have followed us once so i have no reason not to believe them in that way..


    Thanks
     
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    I agree with ZeonChar's wise words. By all accounts, there are liars, con artists, misfits, malcontents, problem causers, wierdos, criminal types, etc. etc. among the disembodied as well as the embodied. Just because they can do or say some impressive things doesn't mean they are out for the good or for your good. Beware!
     
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    Are they "making the right choices" for you? Do you feel free to do other things than they recommend to you, or do they attempt to manipulate or frighten you when you do?


    If they manipulate you, frighten you, or otherwise emotionally influence you to do what they say (or regret it) when you decide to make alternate choices, then these beings are not "higher" in any way.


    The fact is that you will grow on your own even without their help. You are a spiritual being yourself. You are capable of maintaining your own relationship with your own willingness to communicate with each other, kindness, dedication and determination. You can discover and apply the skills you need to love each other well.


    The fact that they seem to be directing these choices for you in an external way concerns me, because this actually sabotages growth in so many ways.


    I'm training to be a life coach right now, and most of the basic precepts of coaching match very well with how spiritual guides tend to function, based on my experience, all the feedback here on the site, and a lot of reading.


    There is a huge difference between a coach who comes alongside and gives you the tools for making your own choices, and someone who comes along by presenting themselves as your boss to manage or direct you "for your own good" because "you'll mess things up without me".


    A wise coach or guide will offer alternate perspectives to consider, suggest questions to help you process your choices, or offer imagery that helps you understand your situation and personality more clearly ... and then they will let you choose without any threats.


    Any consequences will arise naturally on their own because of the nature of the universe. A guide trusts the larger systems of interconnection to teach you through experience, then helps you figure out what you learned along the way.


    Please be careful and face their actual behavior as real identities. What they are willing to do communicates the type of beings they are.


    Consider this: A man who says, "I will follow you wherever you go, even if you don't invite me," can keep his word without having good intentions. (They're called stalkers, and it's illegal.) Just because they're spirits doesn't make that message automatically "good news".


    Your curiosity or a sense of "being exceptional" may be a useful way for them to manipulate you, and not an indicator of their reliability. a115.gif
     
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    Just because a disembodied spirit tells you something, it doesn't mean it's true. Think about people who mess around with Ouija boards, they often get unintended visitors. It is absolutely in a lower spirit's best interest to lie and manipulate you because you have what they want: your own life, your own body, the freedoms to make your own choices. Trust your intuition on this one and pray or do whatever you do in order to receive guidance and help. Tell them next time that you will only accept beings of love and light into your life and if they are not higher beings then they need to leave. Ask for protection from your spirit guides. You have absolutely nothing to lose if they do not have the right intentions and are not who they say they are.
     
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    No, no, they would never tell you what to do ... they make just the choices for you ...


    Can't you see the discrepancy?
     
  10. matthew46

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    progression or the mind playing tricks.???


    Hi all


    Just to further update whats been happening over the last 6 mths or so. We have almost daily visits of no specific times we now have had many many physical contacts ie touching and deep breaths into our faces. We communicate through touch to my leg or hand using the alphabet system. Have had so many interractions that it would be impossible to list. I have noticed over the last 10 days that nearly everytime i look for the time it always seems to be 11.11 is this coincidence or .???..everything else we accept it as we know hear and feel. If that makes me sound crazy then so be it but i could not deny everything that is so out of this world has and is happening..


    Any comments would be great..thanks
     
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    A poltergeist, generally seems to be a form of PK (psychokinesis) manifestation and can be caused by anyone at any age. Usually it some one with some sort of trauma in the past or present that they are repressing instead of dealing with it. This person has to have some pk ability and it can happen at any age, but is most common with teenagers. Matt, not sure what you are dealing with, I think you need some outside help, at this point in order to figure things out. A psychic Medium could help you sort out what is what. As for your 11:11 time prompt, you are not the only one to experience this. I have had this happen as well. I will say that it does seem to be a product of the digital age as you would never notice it on an analog clock face. You might be interested in this book:


    11:11 the Time Prompt Phenomenon: The Meaning Behind Mysterious Signs, Sequences, and Synchronicities


    Good luck!
     
  12. matthew46

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    strange but so real..!!!


    Hi


    Thanks for your reply. I am just going to detail one incident that has occurred and does occurr on a very regular basis. It would normally start with myself and my girlfriend just talking or even watching tv when we would hear a sound maybe a picture fall or very common is the sound of an egg rolling across the floor.!!.this we have later discovered symbolises life.


    Normally our curiosity would then kick in and we would then call out questions etc. We both then sit at a small table with my partner opposite and just sit for a few mins and you can virtually start to hear tiny footsteps from a distance which do become louder. I then ask him to pull up a chair and sit beside us and as true as i write this the chair will move round to face me and during the whole conversation it will move back and forth on many occasions i have held the chair and even tried to move it and i can honestly say the strength it possess is totally overpowering i could not move or pull it a fraction of a cm.


    After plucking up the courage i then asked it to touch me and considering the strength i have witnessed the touch from my leg to my knee was so so gentle. I can actually feel a hand and fingers i even asked it to push harder into my knee and a clear fingernail mark was left. On another occasion i asked it to press down on my feet just to see how far it would go this time it was 2 feet that pressed down on top of mine and again i could not even more them the slightest like they were instantly glued to the floor. Now these are just a few examples of what happens from my partner sat on a moving chair to actually going to the local petrol station and finding a complete egg on the floor right beside my vehicle i have also found eggs in my hoodie top that i would of been wearing..!!!.


    Probably the most bizarre incident was when my partner and i went out in the van and pulled into a shop. I saw my partner get out and i also got out but within a few seconds she had gone...i didnt really think too much of it except maybe she had run into the shop quickly...i walked around the van twice and then waited then went back to the passenger side and she was stood there....she hadnt been to the shop she was there all the time watching me walk around and i know i could not see her anywhere.!!


    Later that day we made contact with this spirit and he described everything that happened and he used a cloak to cover her and as i previously said he said that the egg symbolises life..


    im writing this and i can see how bizarre all this sounds but i can only tell it how it is....in fact it is so bizarre it couldnt be made up.!!!.and what i have told is only the tip of the iceburg..!!!


    any thoughts out there gladly received this has been on going for nearly one year but in a strangeway i totally accept it and almost take it as the norm.


    anyway sorry for rattling on so much but really there is so much to tell


    thanks
     
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    more twists and turns


    Hi all


    Just a quick update to this continuing or on going situation. We had a en counter 2 days ago which for the very first time shows chairs moving and the dining table being hit with quite a lot of force i decided mid way through the encounter to try and record a few things and whilst it doesnt show the whole event it does clearly show some of it. What we have found after viewing many many times are lots and lots of moving specs to me they look like orbs but i honestly dont know.


    I suppose at this point i would really like a bit of clarification from an expert who knows about this.


    We did previously talk to someone but it turned out he wanted to investigate for his own research and proof. I dont need proof we know see hear and feel perfect.!!.its maybe a type of explanation and answers if there are any..


    If anyone could help or any ideas please let us know however small ..even regards the video and whether to take it to a pro


    Thanks all in advance.!!
     
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    Hi Matthew,


    I'll defer to someone who has expertise in these matters. All I know is that if I had stuff like this going on, I'd be trying to get rid of it. I'm not sure what flavor of exorcist you'd prefer, but I'd go down the list until I found one that worked.


    The point is that most of the people on this board don't need to be convinced of the existence of such phenomena. I think most would, however, need to be convinced that it was in any way beneficial.


    For myself, I'd say that--except for the gentle contact of deceased loved ones and/or guides/angels who come to give reassurance, guidance, and/or help in some way--most phenomena of this type is not helpful. Overall, I think these events indicate the "other" type of spirit entities--i.e., the ones you don't want to get tangled up with.


    Cordially,


    S&S
     
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    Hi


    I must admit there have been times we have questioned the intent as the event the other night was eventful to say the least as my leg was scratched and the strength used to pull the dining table away from me was very explosive...however many many times the experiences have been so gentle ie hand to hand touch and finger to finger touch...one added thing is this can read your thoughts and truly have tested the other day...i had been hearing over the last week what sounded like bells jingling however i said nothing to anyone. During the last event i asked a simple clear question which went "im going to ask you a question do you know what im going to ask you.?.can you read my mind.?" The answer tapped out was wedding bells . If i think back this has happened quite a few times.


    Anyway again only a tiny snippet of many many events over the last year.


    Thanks again
     
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    This sort of activity will seem to increase at this time of year when, as they say, the veil is thin. Tuesday was also the full moon, which gives you an additional three day window of "odd" event potential.


    You are not alone. This week, a shadow darted under my bed. I knew what it was, this time, because he stepped on my foot and brushed my shin as he ran by. It was my cat, who has been gone for about two years. I think I scared him as much as he startled me. Perhaps, armed with this info, you will know when to expect an increase in intensity next time?
     
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    sinister ?????


    Hi


    This activity has been consistant for a year now. The difference this time is it seems to have more of a split personality. Is it possible we have been sucked into a false security over the last year and the longer term intentions are more sinister ??


    Thanks all
     
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    Hi Matthew.


    It's impossible to say from my viewpoint, what might be going on. You are the one experiencing it.

    It seems there is an attempt to communicate, but the message is not clear. You could try asking for some more clarity, when things are quiet? I don't know. Worth a try? It's not really a matter of 'mind reading' but more of communicating without speaking, if that makes sense. All this duvet tugging and egg rolling is all very peculiar. Do they still use tapping to communicate, or has that stopped?


    I agree with S&S. I would certainly be seeking some expert, boots on the ground, back up. There are no doubt charlatans out there, but if you seek, you may find someone who can give you some good advice on this. Whether a ghost hunter, a medium, or a shaman priest - someone will know what to do. I don't think just trying to ignore it is your best move here.
     
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    sinister ?????


    Thanks for coments


    Approx 2hrs ago we just had a quite disturbing run of events it involved the chairs and table being dragged around and the tone of our communication has turned very nasty ie matthew rip...you die...matthew strangle lucy (partner) and lots of obcenities aimed at myself and partner. Also what i can only describe as kicks in my shin and trying to scratch down my leg... this is the 2nd day running that the entity has turned the total opposite to what we have encountered over the last year.


    However we were told about 3 or 4 days ago to beware of a bad spirit but were not really sure what to expect. As im writing this there is a very uneasy feeling around the house kinda not knowing what next..


    Not sure of our next move but we do know its not the house as we have moved twice before. A couple of things that i didnt mention were that about 12 mths ago a friend of my partner who does some type of medium work told my partner that the first time she saw me that she noticed 2 of me. This was about a week before this started. Also my partner recentley had hypnotherapy for smoking who also spoke about me as being a gifted person who isnt using the gift correctly...i have never met this person ever but a few things said told me she knew me well.!!!


    Any ideas ????
     
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    I think if you read through this thread again that much of the advice you have been given in the past will come together in a new way for you now.


    My suggestion is to face fear with light, not darkness. None of us can do this for you. You must acknowledge the inner protection you already have available to you and choose personal growth for your own sake. You probably need training from a stable (meaning someone who is neither in awe of your experiences nor fearful) mentor, too.
     
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    Hi


    Thanks for your words and have read some of your material and i suppose whilst im still trying to understand my own experiences i found that what i was reading is making sense with the use of a open mind.


    We also had another event approx 6hrs ago with the type of entity that we are and have been used to over the last year.. i did ask about the events of the last few days and the following was explained to me by way of touch to my shin using the alphabet..


    We were exposed to a bad spirit...the reason being negative thoughts..when i asked about theis gift im said to have i was told to " read echo " then i asked further and was told " light book". Sorry if a bit obscure but typed it exactly as it was told to me.


    I do fear very little and am trying to really hard understand all of this and want to embrace it but for me who has been very sceptical at best for 46yrs or so it is hard to understand...the first thing is WHY ? Then how ? I suppose its a case of accepting it as it is ? Rather than question it. But how do i use this gift ? Im told its not just for me but for others.?


    Thanks for replies so far
     
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    Perhaps they are trying to tell you to 'read the echo light book'? I found this that might be what they are talking about, or something similar?

    http://www.amazon.com/Echoes-Soul-Journey-Beyond-Through/dp/1577310764

    Echoes of the Soul: The Soul's Journey Beyond the Light - Through Life, Death, and Life After Death

    Maybe you should try to contact the author, 'psychic and ghost hunter' Echo Bodine?

    http://echobodine.com/
     
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    Okay, an echo (by its nature) is a fading, reflected version of an original sound. If you think of yourself as standing on a cliff and shouting, you will hear your own voice in an echo as if someone else were talking to you. They may be pointing out that many of these interactions are an externalized form of communication with your subconscious self. Based on your experiences until now, it seems that a lot would be explained by this theory.


    Only you can know if it is true. If it is, there are easier ways to communicate, as you can see if you read how others on the forum interact with their guides and past lives via meditation. Now that you are convinced that this is real, you have options that you would not have considered otherwise.


    There are many "light books" out there, all describing other's experiences with past lives, religion, mythology, and communication with their own unconscious or beings on the other side of the veil. I've read many of them at this point, and the information I have found most reliable is a result of the overlap of shared experiences, not a single book or idea.


    I'd recommend reading widely. Go through your library's religious, psychic-science (there are a lot of books these days by various scientists as well as personal experiences with research), mythological, and esoteric sections and think through whether all these sources fit together with your own experience in any way.


    The books that "contain light" are going to stand out with "Aha!" moments containing pieces of information that you need, or that reflect your situation in a new light.


    Note: One vital piece of information doesn't mean the entire book (or the person who wrote it) is now your primary resource, just that your inner guide has helped you find something necessary to your progress. I've learned from some of the most inaccurate and fallible sources out there, so ... take my experience for what it's worth and don't get too stuck in one person's perspective, even your own.


    Also, you get to filter who is permitted to access your life. However, it's not merely a mental command but who you are that will create the filter.


    If you are focused on angry, hateful, arrogant, selfish, disrespectful thoughts toward yourself or others, then that which supports you in those attitudes or desires will have the space to connect with you and use that state for its own purposes.


    However, the moment you realize this and choose compassion, kindness, respect, awareness of your limitations, and intention for good in your own life and others' it limits the access harmful beings have to you.


    Seeing this attitude as light will help you consciously frame the idea visually. Light exposes what is hidden and also automatically eliminates the darkness (or unconsciousness) that can shadow your choices. Your imagination is part of how you see the world, after all. Use it well, and it will support you with the tools you need to protect your relationships and improve your life.
     
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    I know this is a late reply, but maye it will help, if you haven't received any already. There are paranormal investigators that I watch on TV, and they might be contacted in your case. You'd have to do some googling, since there are a few such teams out there, some in the USA and others in Great Britain. TAPS is the name of one team. Here's their wesite:


    http://the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/


    I wonder though if it's the house that's haunted, and not you and your partner. Or at least that the location is vibrationally sensitive to psychic energies?
     
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    I agree completely with the quote you posted re crypto-conscious phenomena. There is every reason to believe that what are normally regarded as spirits are actually psychic phenomena stemming from a medium.


    A very good book worth reading from the late 19th century is Thomson Jay Hudson's The Law of Psychic Phenomena. He presents a number of very interesting cases of this crypto-consciousness and the amazing phenomena produced. He also reveals some things about hypnosis that have since been 'lost' when hypnotic techniques were changed from the original mesmeric techniques to the techniques developed by later practitioners like James Braid.
     
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    My take on this: Read the echo of your mind... your intuition... that almost imperceptile responsive voice that is usually drowned out by our own overriding thought processes. The light book means the book of truth, which is also referring to your intuition.


    From my own understanding, after having read through this thread, I would say that these entities are either poltergeist activity... uncontrolled psychic energy from one or both you and your partner, and reflect subconscious urges or concerns, or in a worst case, one of you has been psychically invaded, in that you may have been hypnotically induced to have these experiences. I don't discount spirit communications, but that doesn't appear to have ever been explored very extensively by you through your questions to the entities.
     
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    amazing.!!!!


    Hi all


    Just a quick update on the way things have moved forward for my partner and myself over the last while and a situation we now find ourselves in.


    Approx 3 mths ago we had a small dog that was taken to the vet for a routine operation or so we thought. After leaving the dog overnight we received a call to say the dog had died due to an allergic reaction with the anesthetic half way through the operation. We were told it would be wise not to see her as she had not been stitched up but that they would take care of the remains. We were devestated as she was only tiny aged 3yrs but came everywhere with us.


    After about 2 weeks during one of our visits with our spirit he told us the dog was not dead you can imagine the questions in our heads..!!!.. various messages kept telling us things about the dog over the next few months and the dog was always in our thoughts.


    Last wednesday during our visit by our spirit again this subject was brought up and he said. "Take car to work" he then said "5 days " during that night he then said dog on way back microchip...the next day my partner received a call to go to work over the weekend we put 2 and 2 together and said why not maybe something will happen...before she left she opened the boot to put in her bag only to find our dogs collar staring straight at her....


    rolling on the clock to sunday, exactly 5 days later my partner received a call from a vets via the microchip number that our dog had been handed in safe and fairly ok.!!!!!!!.. as you can imagine our minds are totally blown with this. The week before all this happened was extremely strange we had nightly visits for the first time ever we witnessed a whole arm from the elbow to the hands and fingers come up through the mattress.


    We also went for a meal to a local cafe and the spirit was there he moved chairs constantly kicked the table and even lifted it along with foot stamping....we did have to leave early what started as funny or a little joke did get out of hand..the strength and power of this is so strong far far stronger than anything or anyone ive ever seen....


    a lot to believe i know but my dog is here....i was in the cafe i saw i felt and most definately am not mad..


    Any ideas or explanations ? Please ??
     
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    If I were you, I would not interact with it. I would also arrange for paranormal investigators to "cleanse" the place or whatever they do. Or, I would move.
     
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    Hi


    Previous note we have already moved previously and nothing bad has happened yet ....thanks
     

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