The future

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Cyrus,

Since I've gotten myself back on the topic of future space exploration and settlement, I found out something I didn't know recently about the two Billionaires in hot competition at the moment. Everyone knows Musk is a planetary settlement guy, with his eyes fixed on Mars. What I didn't know was that Bezos is a space colony guy, who looks ahead to the founding of giant rotating space colonies, etc. Both have the Moon in their plans in terms of resources, but I think our moon is especially important to Bezos (as it was to O'Neill, the primary developer of the plan and concepts behind space colonies), as a source of raw materials and resources located very near to the mother planet. Anyhow, I hope that I live to see them both succeed. I like both options, though my best chance to hike on Mars, or enjoy a verdant paradise in a space colony, will probably have to wait for another lifetime (assuming I come back again ). Of course, if the planet gets seriously blasted by nukes, asteroids, solar flares, pole shifts, alien invaders, etc. etc.--any return (and the foregoing colonies in space or on Mars) may be delayed indefinitely.

Cordially,
S&S

 

[cloud potato]

Hiya S&S,

It does sound nice- then again, so does hiking here on Earth and plunging in deep waters(though you didn't mention that last part ).

A little off topic- I was reading your last comment and it made me think... What is time for a soul that reincarnates? I wonder if it experiences "delays" when you remove the, "Earth-Human" subject to linear time perspective.

 

[Elle C.]

S&S there is also the conspiracy sites with the pole shift, which could cause a lot of it. And if I recall correctly Krakatoa is active and we have Yellowstone as well.

Any one of those three would leave massive devastation, and because of growing up with the Cold War could be seen as nuclear because we have no other reference.

 

[There and back again]

S&S there is also the conspiracy sites with the pole shift, which could cause a lot of it. And if I recall correctly Krakatoa is active and we have Yellowstone as well.

Any one of those three would leave massive devastation, and because of growing up with the Cold War could be seen as nuclear because we have no other reference.

The magma chamber beneath Yellowstone is absolutely massive with it being 40 miles wide and 70 miles deep while being fed by a mantle plume though only a portion of it is eruptible.

 

[Elle C.]

I'll be honest, Yellowstone isn't one of my favorite conspiracies, so I know of it and can talk about it but not in depth. I think the worry is that even if it blows, it's going to tear a bigger part of it apart causing more damage.

 

[baro-san]

It is interesting, and I dare to say illuminating to interpret the reality you perceive from the perspective that it reflects your expectations, it is filtered through your beliefs, and it is one of the endless number of realities that exist.

 

[SeaAndSky]

I'll be honest, Yellowstone isn't one of my favorite conspiracies, so I know of it and can talk about it but not in depth. I think the worry is that even if it blows, it's going to tear a bigger part of it apart causing more damage.

Hi Elle,

Lots of possibilities, but my biggest interest at the moment is which direction the flash came from (in terms of your location). Was it coming from behind you or in front of you? You have the homestead now, so you should be able to orient yourself. Also, if I am remembering correctly, your homestead is located in a fairly hilly or mountainous area. In the U.S. those are mostly East Coast/West Coast. If you are near the East coast, and it was from the West, it may have been almost anything--nuke/airburst/Yellowstone. If you are near the West Coast and it is from the West, it would probably be nuke/airburst. The opposite is true if you are near the East Coast: a Western flash could indicate nuke/airburst/Yellowstone; and an Eastern flash would probably be nuke/airburst.

Solar flares are pretty unpredictable in terms of light affects, but the worst of them seem to manifest as very intense and sometimes lasting glows and lights from the polar regions (rather than flashes). One of the most remarkable occurred at the onset of the Second World War. It is thought by some to have been predicted via Fatima in 1917 as the harbinger of WWII.

January 1938 geomagnetic storm - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A Night Illumined by an Unknown Light | The Fatima Center

On July 13, 1917, after showing the three shepherd children a vision of hell, Our Lady then confided to them the second part of the Secret of Fatima: “If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end; but if people

fatima.org

So, another query: Did the flash come from the North?

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I don't have any reason to suspect a very bright flash as a result of a pole shift, but who knows? OTOH, I would definitely be worrying about massive tidal waves (which strike more terror in me--for some reason--than any of the other possibilities mentioned above).

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hiya S&S,

It does sound nice- then again, so does hiking here on Earth and plunging in deep waters(though you didn't mention that last part ).

A little off topic- I was reading your last comment and it made me think... What is time for a soul that reincarnates? I wonder if it experiences "delays" when you remove the, "Earth-Human" subject to linear time perspective.

Hi Cloud,

I definitely like plunging into deep waters. Florida has an abundance of fresh water springs, and I spent plenty of time (in younger years) swimming in beautiful springs and tubing/canoeing in associated spring runs and adjacent rivers. (IMO, some of these areas are as close to Eden as one is likely to find ). I have to admit that this is not something I have been doing recently (as in the last 10 years or so), but that cold water does get harder to get into with age.

In terms of time between incarnations, it seems to have gotten shorter and shorter over the ages. But, if most of the population gets wiped out, one could theorize "longer wait times" in line for a suitable (or available) body/life. OTOH, maybe a lot of souls will go elsewhere in search of "greener pastures".

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I don't really know how to answer your deeper question. For the moment, I tend to restrict my thoughts and conceptualizations to "earth normal" time as it is the only thing I can really comprehend while I'm here.

 

[Elle C.]

S&S I am in Middle Tennessee, almost to the west. And yes, I actually own a mountain, so we can say it is hilly. As to the flash, it is West from my location, almost directly. When I had the first dream at 6 I was outside of Tulsa, and the flash in that dream was NE, more north than east.

The flash does not converge on any point. If I draw a line of a map, where I am now is south of Tulsa and the OK dream goes to the middle of nowhere. They never meet up anywhere.

It also usually is where I am facing in my dream. My horses are on the western part of the lot the homestead is on (the sun basically sets in the middle of their pasture) and at the back end, all of Mordor there is west. My property is like an inverted sideways 7 because I bought 2 lots that were for sale. There is a logging road that intersects lot 2, and a third of the property is west of that road. There the mountain plateau on the east of the road and it covers the other 2/3s. Toward lot 2 meeting1 is a holler (Big Foot Holler lol), and it's pretty much there's the top of the mountain and then bam! there's the bottom of the mountain, watch your step. The horses and most of the homestead are on lot 1 (the short end of the 7). Any flat land I have is weirdly placed, but I do have it. Excpet for Mordor, I have no idea what is over there.

Now, the flash is simply an event horizon. Tulsa was North East to my town and the sun sets on the homestead in the same area of the "flash". It is a significator of an event, not the event itself. The areas are something I just "know" where they are...as a kid, I knew where Tulsa was (as in I could point to the direction to go) and I see the sun set all the time, it's one of the few things the trees don't obscure.

 

[cloud potato]

PS--I don't really know how to answer your deeper question. For the moment, I tend to restrict my thoughts and conceptualizations to "earth normal" time as it is the only thing I can really comprehend while I'm here.

I'd say your comprehension skills are better than my own! =P

 

[SeaAndSky]

S&S I am in Middle Tennessee, almost to the west. And yes, I actually own a mountain, so we can say it is hilly. As to the flash, it is West from my location, almost directly. When I had the first dream at 6 I was outside of Tulsa, and the flash in that dream was NE, more north than east.

The flash does not converge on any point. If I draw a line of a map, where I am now is south of Tulsa and the OK dream goes to the middle of nowhere. They never meet up anywhere.

It also usually is where I am facing in my dream. My horses are on the western part of the lot the homestead is on (the sun basically sets in the middle of their pasture) and at the back end, all of Mordor there is west. My property is like an inverted sideways 7 because I bought 2 lots that were for sale. There is a logging road that intersects lot 2, and a third of the property is west of that road. There the mountain plateau on the east of the road and it covers the other 2/3s. Toward lot 2 meeting1 is a holler (Big Foot Holler lol), and it's pretty much there's the top of the mountain and then bam! there's the bottom of the mountain, watch your step. The horses and most of the homestead are on lot 1 (the short end of the 7). Any flat land I have is weirdly placed, but I do have it. Excpet for Mordor, I have no idea what is over there.

Now, the flash is simply an event horizon. Tulsa was North East to my town and the sun sets on the homestead in the same area of the "flash". It is a significator of an event, not the event itself. The areas are something I just "know" where they are...as a kid, I knew where Tulsa was (as in I could point to the direction to go) and I see the sun set all the time, it's one of the few things the trees don't obscure.

Hi Elle,

I am basically interested in orienting in terms of the actual location of your homestead, and what is due West from where you are now--the direction of the flash in your vision. As you indicate, the flash could just be an artifact of the vision, symbolizing but not generated by whatever happened to the West. As a flash, it doesn't sound much like a volcanic event. The massive eruptions I have looked into or heard of can be explosive, but do not (I think) generate a bright flash like a nuke, a nova, or an air burst. OTOH, looking West from where you are located I see a lot of possible targets for nukes, with Southern California being a very target rich environment. (I'm thinking of "flash" symbolism here, as I don't think you would be seeing an actual flash from that far away--I hope ).



There is one other possibility in terms of volcanic activity. The Long Valley Caldera in Southern California close to the Nevada border. The presence of this competitor to the Yellowstone super volcano was pointed out by Cryscat in post 145 on page 5 of this thread. Checking out Wikipedia one finds that:

In May 1980, a strong earthquake swarm that included four Richter magnitude 6 earthquakes struck the southern margin of the Long Valley Caldera. It was associated with a 10 in (250 mm) dome-shaped uplift of the caldera floor.[18][19] These events marked the onset of the latest period of caldera unrest that is ongoing.[18] This ongoing unrest includes recurring earthquake swarms and continued dome-shaped uplift of the central section of the caldera accompanied by changes in thermal springs and gas emissions.[18] After the quake, a secondary access road was created as a potential escape route for the town of Mammoth Lakes. Its name at first was proposed as the "Mammoth Escape Route" but was changed to the Mammoth Scenic Loop after Mammoth area businesses and land owners complained.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Valley_Caldera). Hmm. It makes me wonder whether the eruption of one might set off the other. But that is just morbid speculation on my part.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Very interesting stuff (as always). But you'll have to fill me in on what you mean by the references to "Mordor" in your post.
PPS--Los Alamos is also to the West. Hmm. I hope they're not involved in some "mad scientist" type experiments over there.

 

[Elle C.]

I am in the Columbia area of Tennessee. West of me is not much, Arkansas Reactor One, but in Oklahoma the NE aspect leads to very little. Plus If you draw a West line from Columbia and a NE line from Tulsa...there is no where they cross.

I am too far from either coast to see anything, plus the direction not meeting up doesn't indicate anything. The fact that this is the direction I am facing in my dream is not an indicator of a real event, merely things I see in the very real world I am used to. I do my evening chores when the sun is in a similar position daily, so I am used to the sun being there. As a kid in Oklahoma, I knew where my dad worked and went on Fridays with my mom to get his check. Directions in this case is simply a lay over of normal regular activities.

It doesn't mean anything other then now I face west a lot.

As to the Mordor comment, if you stand on my logging road facing north (the road runs North and South) to the left is a bunch of trees, very thick and you can see nothing but pine trees, not even the ground. If you get off the road, within a few feet you will fall down 6-10 feet, therefore no one actually goes onto the 4-5 acres on the left side of the property and I call it Mordor out of jest (because in the book it is a volcanic plain, but very destructive, which let's face it, falling 10 feet into trees, briars and blackberry bushes where there are rattlesnakes is rather omnious). Mostly the name comes from me taking a tumble 10 feet the first time I walked over there, and complaining about falling down Mount Doom.

Personally, I don't hold much to my dreams meaning a bunch other than here I am and being ready for what's coming. What that is, I couldn't tell you and it could mean nothing at all. My horse is a very common brown color, and a sunflowe spot isn't an unusual blade either. My stove can be explained by the fact I like the stoves, have since I was little and hels over from a kid...and me buying a thing I greatly like is not that hard of a stretch.

 

[SeaAndSky]

I am in the Columbia area of Tennessee. West of me is not much, Arkansas Reactor One, but in Oklahoma the NE aspect leads to very little. Plus If you draw a West line from Columbia and a NE line from Tulsa...there is no where they cross.

I am too far from either coast to see anything, plus the direction not meeting up doesn't indicate anything. The fact that this is the direction I am facing in my dream is not an indicator of a real event, merely things I see in the very real world I am used to. I do my evening chores when the sun is in a similar position daily, so I am used to the sun being there. As a kid in Oklahoma, I knew where my dad worked and went on Fridays with my mom to get his check. Directions in this case is simply a lay over of normal regular activities.

It doesn't mean anything other then now I face west a lot.

As to the Mordor comment, if you stand on my logging road facing north (the road runs North and South) to the left is a bunch of trees, very thick and you can see nothing but pine trees, not even the ground. If you get off the road, within a few feet you will fall down 6-10 feet, therefore no one actually goes onto the 4-5 acres on the left side of the property and I call it Mordor out of jest (because in the book it is a volcanic plain, but very destructive, which let's face it, falling 10 feet into trees, briars and blackberry bushes where there are rattlesnakes is rather omnious). Mostly the name comes from me taking a tumble 10 feet the first time I walked over there, and complaining about falling down Mount Doom.

Personally, I don't hold much to my dreams meaning a bunch other than here I am and being ready for what's coming. What that is, I couldn't tell you and it could mean nothing at all. My horse is a very common brown color, and a sunflowe spot isn't an unusual blade either. My stove can be explained by the fact I like the stoves, have since I was little and hels over from a kid...and me buying a thing I greatly like is not that hard of a stretch.

PS--Lest my intention be unclear, Elle's last post seems to indicate that I have rushed ahead with my speculations and gone far beyond anything she intended to indicate. So, the "Don't Be Hasty" meme I have pasted in is directed at myself to remind me not to "rush in where angels fear to tread!"

 

[SeaAndSky]

And yet, there are lots of publications affirming the human race will never be able to leave the Solar System, to say nothing, to live on another planet - the Earth will remain our home forever.
Just make a search on Google with something like "We'll never leave Earth", "Fermi Paradox: Great filter - what destroys all the civiliaztions" or smth. of the kind.

Best regards.

Hi Cyrus,

I thought you might find this interesting. I found it pretty engrossing as someone who still likes solutions that don't involve exotic physics and systems (such as warp drives and worm holes). It is also extremely clever, and resonates with me as someone that comes from seafaring families on both sides; and has always always loved stories of the great ships (with sails) that were used to explore and settle large parts of our planet. It turns out that the Solar Wind is our friend here, and can be used in incredibly clever ways to generate speeds up to .2c = Centauri in approx 20 years once the necessary velocities are generated. I suppose that there will be some extended times necessary to build up to that speed (and to slow back down at the target star) given the instrumentalities used, but even Centauri in 40--100 years would be extremely fast (especially if one-way probes are being sent):

Cordially,
S&S

 

[Cyrus]

Hi Cyrus,

I thought you might find this interesting. I found it pretty engrossing as someone who still likes solutions that don't involve exotic physics and systems (such as warp drives and worm holes). It is also extremely clever, and resonates with me as someone that comes from seafaring families on both sides; and has always always loved stories of the great ships (with sails) that were used to explore and settle large parts of our planet. It turns out that the Solar Wind is our friend here, and can be used in incredibly clever ways to generate speeds up to .2c = Centauri in approx 20 years once the necessary velocities are generated. I suppose that there will be some extended times necessary to build up to that speed (and to slow back down at the target star) given the instrumentalities used, but even Centauri in 40--100 years would be extremely fast (especially if one-way probes are being sent):

Cordially,
S&S

Hi, S&S:

Aplha Centauri is a triple solar system, and the life there is hardly possible due to the most sharp temperature changes.

I still believe there is some Great Filter, that kills all the civilizations before they leave their home planets.
Yellowstone, Nuclear War, some super-pandemia, just to name a few.

The only way I see it is to choose a convenient solar system and a suitable planet from Between Lives, before a new reincarnation.
I once considered to go to Betelgeuse-V to reincarnate in that civilization of intelligent mushrooms, but now it looks highly unpractical, as Betelgeuse is goind to explode soon, if not already exploded.

Best Regards.

ZAZ "I want":

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Cyrus,

Maybe all intelligent species are wiped out before they have a chance to spread beyond their home stellar system, and maybe not. It certainly doesn't look like there are a lot of other sapient species out there, and planets like ours are obviously in short supply as well. The former may be the result of the latter. Nonetheless, I am interested in the new planetary systems being discovered and look forward to obtaining more information as time goes on. The only one that looks promising to me so far, from a planetary settlement standpoint, is the Trappist 1 system, and it has a lot of notable problems as well. Still, we may be surprised.

However, I watched and discussed your suggested Youtube arguing that we would never voyage to the stars. It was almost 17 minutes long, so I hope you will at least watch the first 17 minutes of what I linked. You will not get to the "good stuff" in that first part, but I am hoping that you will get interested and see it through to the end.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I am glad you changed your mind about Betelgeuse. Of course, I cannot speak for another, but I have a hard time imagining that being an intelligent mushroom would offer as many interesting diversions as I can experience as an intelligent biped. This is especially true as I have never heard that mushrooms have or experience the wonderful diversions offered by the opposite sex, which would be difficult to forego IMO. Plus, even if they do, your selections would probably be limited to those sprouting in your immediate vicinity, which would certainly limit your choices.
PPS--I actually think that the O'Neill/Bezos approach may be the best, both in our own stellar system and in any others we may be able to colonize.
[Edit] PPPS--Got a chance to listen to the ZAZ piece and really liked it. Couldn't understand a word, but loved the singer, voice and style!

 

[Cyrus]

Hi, S&S:

Maybe we shouldn't be so homo sapiens centric in our affections.
The world of intelligent mushrooms might offer even a lot more pleasant surprises.
Of course, it's a pity to have to change from something we have been so long accustomed to, but maybe this is, too, a part of the big plan that the reincarnation is to serve for.

Anyways, if I fail to enter that Italian Naval Academy in my next life, I'd rather be a street musician somewhere in Montmartre, Paris, than go to Betelgeuse. Who knows? As to your video-clip, my ear is so badly adapted to oral English, that it's rather problematic for me. Anyways, I'll give it a try. Somebody said the optimists in Europe are learning Russian and the pessimists - Chinese.

P.S. In the film "Avatar", Pandora, that inhabited planet, is a moon of a giant planet like Jupiter, which is a rather unlucky variant of a place fit for life: it would pass so much time hidden in the shadow of that giant planet, that any life on it would be hardly abundant.

Best Regards.

ZAZ "Je veux"

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Cyrus,

In terms of departing from humanity to take on some other alien form--if that is possible--I'm definitely not enthusiastic.

You remark, "if I fail to enter that Italian Naval Academy in my next life, I'd rather be a street musician somewhere in Montmartre, Paris, than go to Betelgeuse." Ditto on the musician part of that. But, I would prefer not to work on the street myself. If I have a choice in the matter, I'm increasingly thinking that I would choose to be a great singer and dancer, which is strange since these are not areas in which I have any talents (though I have increasingly come to envy those who do in a wistful sort of way). This is also strange as my dreams in this life were so much more scientific/adventurous (with a dash of practicality thrown in). My wistful longing for the next life, if I have one, seems to be the exact opposite.

You note that, "Somebody said the optimists in Europe are learning Russian and the pessimists - Chinese." I can understand their concerns. The West is in bad shape at the moment. Over here the pessimists foresee a civil war, Orwellian dictatorship, Nazism, or some combination thereof. The optimists are all hoping that everyone will come together and embrace their particular vision of the future, or at least capitulate to it. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a "uniting" vision to hold us all together, and we are increasingly losing the ability to compromise--which means we are throwing away one of the principles that held us all together. However, I continue to hope. Europe and America have both gone through bad times in the past and came through them without any of the foregoing nightmarish scenarios ultimately prevailing. We may make it through the present era as well.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Don't forget the Moon of Endor in Star Wars! Hmmm. Probably such a moon would be tidally locked, so some of its surface would probably never get full exposure to its sun.

 

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[SeaAndSky]

Hi TABA,

Very ominous, but still somewhat ambiguous in terms of civil war. It could just indicate incidents of civil unrest, riots, violence (bipartisan or otherwise), looting, etc. We've had that kind of thing often enough before without reaching the level of a civil war. Usually it is restricted to certain large urban areas and does not affect the rest of the country (aside from generating concern and/or disgust). For those who may not be old enough to remember, there was also a lot of that kind of thing (including numerous bombings, etc.) back in the Vietnam War era and thereafter. This does not mean that I would, by any means, be willing to see a repeat of problems at that level or even worse. But we have weathered such things on a fairly limited scale over the last few years, and the republic still stands. However, I definitely hope that it does not build to a general conflagration.

Cordially,
S&S

 

[There and back again]

Forgot to post this yesterday.

Edit: This just came up

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi TABA,

Thanks for posting Part 2, it is a good (and sobering) follow-up. However, what they are predicting just sounds like an amped-up version of the last election cycle and aftermath. So this is not one of those (wow!) videos for me. If there was a prediction that a "UFO lands on the Whitehouse lawn and begins negotiations in 2025" and it came to pass, this would be big news and I would have to admit to being very, very impressed by the Remote Viewers and their prognostications. However, I have seen so many predictions of disaster for the next 1-5 years it will take something fairly extraordinary to impress me at this point.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Despite the foregoing, I do take these types of predictions seriously, as they reinforce my own concerns about civil unrest (and worse) in the coming few years.

 

[SeaAndSky]

All:

In terms of dangerous things that could happen in the short range, I offer the following:

‘Dangerous Pressure Cooker’ Capable Of Creating ‘Atomic’ Blast Found Under US

An incredible article published Thursday detailed the discovery of a potentially devastating threat lurking under Yellowstone National Park.

dailycaller.com

I had never heard of a Phreatic Eruption before (which is different from a volcanic eruption). It is basically caused by superheated steam in a volcanic area. And, apparently Yellowstone is getting ready for a big one--with an explosive kiloton rating far in excess of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. From a physics standpoint I am also concerned. I am no expert and far from my background education, but it seems to me that such an underground explosion will not only expel a vast amount of material (which is typical), but create an incredible downward force and shock wave that might well disrupt and weaken the structures between the explosion zone and the magma chambers below. So, when/if there is an upward rebound (and even if there is not) there would not be as much weight holding the magma pressure in check and the rock above the magma might, potentially, be weakened.

Of course, I am way over my head in terms of expertise, but thoughts of the foregoing do make me more than a bit nervous--not just in terms of the pending hydrothermal explosion, but in terms of what effects it might have on the monster lava chamber(s) lurking underneath.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Maybe someone can find some articles giving a better time-line for the explosion predicted. There is very little in the article linked.

 

[baro-san]

These are obviously hypotheses, but I believe that my perceptions are distorted by my beliefs, and that my expectations bring into my reality alike experiences. We will not all experience the same future, and we have not all experienced the same past; there are also alternative realities.

This is why I try to consciously generate positive expectations, and to identify and change my limiting beliefs. It seems to work.

 

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[SeaAndSky]

Hi TABA,

Given the events of the day, it looks like I spoke too soon in discounting the possibility or proximity of the type or extreme civil disturbance previously discussed. Sometimes it only takes one stone to start a land-slide. The f__ __ls continuing to encourage this type of thing do not seem to realize what kind of Hell they could unleash. I will make my point no clearer. You will understand.

God help us all.

Cordially,
S&S

 

[baro-san]

I believe that one way to grow spiritually is to intuitively interpret, as deeply as I can, the experiences that attract my attention; both my own experiences and others'.

If you go deeper than what seems obvious, deeper that the conventional cause-effect, if you leave aside your beliefs and expectations, your biases, whatever you're sure you know, "facts", then you could consciously tap into your inner source of knowledge and guidance.

I do this often, and I get knowledge and guidance on which I rely in my understanding, in the choices I make, in the attitudes I adopt, in the way I think and behave.

I believe that different people, each one intuitively interpreting the same experience, his own or others', each one will draw different knowledge and guidance, according to his own spiritual development needs at the moment.

I do this when I notice that negative situations pile up: breakages, losses, illnesses, ..., and also wars, natural disasters, ...

Surely, I do this with positive experiences too, again: not to learn from them, but to intuitively interpret them for knowledge and guidance, which may have apparently no connection with the "facts" as generally perceived.

To me, it always make sense. The knowledge and guidance seem always profound and helpful; many times they are surprising.

I did such intuitive interpretations for the first failed assassination attempt on Trump, and now for the second. I did it for the situation in Ukraine, in Israel, in US, for "real" and manufactured crises like covid, vaccines, disasters, ....

I recommend this, highlighting again: intuitive interpretation, leaving aside everything you believe, you (believe that you) know, you expect, others claim (experts, gurus, dogmas - including science).

 

[SeaAndSky]

I believe that one way to grow spiritually is to intuitively interpret, as deeply as I can, the experiences that attract my attention; both my own experiences and others'.

If you go deeper than what seems obvious, deeper that the conventional cause-effect, if you leave aside your beliefs and expectations, your biases, whatever you're sure you know, "facts", then you could consciously tap into your inner source of knowledge and guidance.

I do this often, and I get knowledge and guidance on which I rely in my understanding, in the choices I make, in the attitudes I adopt, in the way I think and behave.

I believe that different people, each one intuitively interpreting the same experience, his own or others', each one will draw different knowledge and guidance, according to his own spiritual development needs at the moment.

I do this when I notice that negative situations pile up: breakages, losses, illnesses, ..., and also wars, natural disasters, ...

Surely, I do this with positive experiences too, again: not to learn from them, but to intuitively interpret them for knowledge and guidance, which may have apparently no connection with the "facts" as generally perceived.

To me, it always make sense. The knowledge and guidance seem always profound and helpful; many times they are surprising.

I did such intuitive interpretations for the first failed assassination attempt on Trump, and now for the second. I did it for the situation in Ukraine, in Israel, in US, for "real" and manufactured crises like covid, vaccines, disasters, ....

I recommend this, highlighting again: intuitive interpretation, leaving aside everything you believe, you (believe that you) know, you expect, others claim (experts, gurus, dogmas - including science).

Hi Baro-san,

If you have an intuitive interpretation for the assassination attempts, the situations in Ukraine, Israel, and the U.S. and etc. please provide them. If you would rather not post them, please provide in a PM. I am interested to know.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[baro-san]

Hi Baro-san,

If you have an intuitive interpretation for the assassination attempts, the situations in Ukraine, Israel, and the U.S. and etc. please provide them. If you would rather not post them, please provide in a PM. I am interested to know.

Thanks,
S&S

It isn't that I am shy to share, but as I wrote above, everyone's intuitive interpretation is different, because it points to his specific needs for development. There is also a risk that people might disagree and attempt to argue, which I am not interested to do.

My previous post was meant only to share what I do, and to recommend others to try it for themselves.

Anyway .... Those events, in my interpretation, relate to two important lessons in creating one's reality. One lesson is that negative emotions attract situations that cause the same kind of emotions, and unchecked those emotions will amplify and degenerate into worse emotions and worse situations.

In all mentioned cases historical disagreement and discontent degenerated in anger, then hate. The Israeli case is the most intense as hate is coupled with fear for survival. Until the people will change that emotional energy into a more positive one, the situation will continue to degrade, and the hateful and / or fearful sides will suffer more and more intensely, not understanding why. It doesn't matter any justification, any good / evil, right / wrong, history, help from others; nothing can positively affect the course if emotions aren't significantly changed.

The good news for every individual is that his own situation and future depends only on his own emotions, not on anybody else.

The second lesson is that your expectations shape / create your reality. This manifested in the case of the failed assassination attempts: the victim's positive expectations.

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Baro-san,

Your message is, overall, in my opinion, a vast over-simplification. I do agree that certain patterns, types and habits of thought and emotions tend to lead to, and even "attract", certain outcomes. However, I disagree with your basic premise, which makes this an absolute:

"The good news for every individual is that his own situation and future depends only on his own emotions, not on anybody else."

This is taking "positive thinking" (or "positive emoting"?) to an extreme that amounts to divinization of the individual. In a way, I wish that it was true, and maybe someday it will be, but I can only imagine such a thing as being true when my individual desiring, thinking, feeling, etc. echo those of the divine. In that case it will be true because I am actually in harmony with the all-powerful and divine will, etc.--and seeking/doing God's will.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--The good news is, however, that what you're say could be true to any degree at all. Staying positive and seeking positive outcomes will, IMO, help.