The "Lost Good"

[SeaAndSky]

The "Memory Block" is there for almost all of us to some degree or another. And, I have certainly had my difficulties. Some hypothesize that it serves as a trauma block. However, as anyone who has read this board for very long will know, it is often the traumatic memories that force their way to the surface (or make themselves known one way or another). And, the few memories and hints I have had are unhappy, sad or traumatic for what I think are my last two Pls. Another one much farther back (as a nun) revealed itself merely as "facts" devoid of emotional content. So, it was not the bad stuff or the neutral stuff from these PLs that has refused to surface in any way—it is the good.

This has made me wonder about another factor that few seem to take into account: the good that has been lost. Everyone tends to focus on trauma and trauma blocking memory, but I am wondering if it is not the lost “positive” that is the greater issue. Some have a real sense of loss, anguish and longing for what was lost in such a lifetime. (Cyrus can probably relate--at least in part--to what I just said). But that is because they remember the situation and people involved, once so close to them. What if there are other people, things and times in your PLs that are now lost to you, the memory of which in this lifetime would only cause you deep anguish and make it even harder to live the life-path you chose or have been given? Might it not be that such PL memories might--for many or most--be subject to an even “higher” and more impenetrable memory block/wall?

I remember one of Dr. Weiss’ cases that I read about, where a pair of souls who had often been united in love in different relationships over multiple lifetimes were struggling and unfulfilled until Weiss found their connection and put them back together again in this lifetime—where they rekindled their love and found happiness. That was the archetypal “happy” ending—one that few find in real life. But what if they had not found each other, but only found the memories of someone they loved with all of their heart, but could not find in this lifetime, memories that might just put a pall on all chances of happiness in their current lifetime?

So, I have come to believe there is a wall for my protection from the "Lost Good". Consequently, though I really long to scale it I also realize that it may be protecting me from memories of someone or something that would not allow any contentment in my current lifetime. You may be the same. Perhaps there is a lifetime (or more) so good or perhaps with a relationship or something else so good about it that its memory would imperil your ability to find any happiness in your current lifetime. Would opening that door add anything, or would it just subtract from whatever you have in your current lifetime? Only you can say, but I am starting to believe that the Lost Good does play a role in these things.

However, if what I have described is true, I also suspect that it (like buried trauma) reveals itself in other ways. Perhaps an unexplainable longing or wistfulness related to something or someone that cannot be named or remembered. Maybe there is unaccountable sadness, discontent or loneliness where there should be none. Maybe. But I assume that there are other things that can lead to such symptoms. Just put it all down to another one of the mysteries we often live with. Some may find a happy ending, with or without Dr. Weiss to put them together, by finding the person or thing that satisfies the longing I have described. But if not, perhaps it is best to just "move on".

Your thoughts?

Cordially,
S&S

 

[Eva1942]

The "Memory Block" is there for almost all of us to some degree or another. And, I have certainly had my difficulties. Some hypothesize that it serves as a trauma block. However, as anyone who has read this board for very long will know, it is often the traumatic memories that force their way to the surface (or make themselves known one way or another). And, the few memories and hints I have had are unhappy, sad or traumatic for what I think are my last two Pls. Another one much farther back (as a nun) revealed itself merely as "facts" devoid of emotional content. So, it was not the bad stuff or the neutral stuff from these PLs that has refused to surface in any way—it is the good.

Hi SeaAnd Sky,

Forgive me if I misunderstood your thoughts, but I have had many lifetimes reveal themselves 'devoid of emotional content'. I took this to mean that I healed whatever it was that had troubled me in that lifetime in the subsequent lifetimes after it. That I am 'viewing' what I need to see from that lifetime without the weight of emotions that were most likely healed already.

I work on and heal my lives under the impression that what needs to be healed surfaces first whether they be good or bad.

This has made me wonder about another factor that few seem to take into account: the good that has been lost. Everyone tends to focus on trauma and trauma blocking memory, but I am wondering if it is not the lost “positive” that is the greater issue. Some have a real sense of loss, anguish and longing for what was lost in such a lifetime. (Cyrus can probably relate--at least in part--to what I just said). But that is because they remember the situation and people involved, once so close to them. What if there are other people, things and times in your PLs that are now lost to you, the memory of which in this lifetime would only cause you deep anguish and make it even harder to live the life-path you chose or have been given? Might it not be that such PL memories might--for many or most--be subject to an even “higher” and more impenetrable memory block/wall?

I don't look at it as trauma. I look upon the trauma as a soul building exercise and whatever harmed my physical body didn't even touch my soul. Perhaps it is for the good that our soul does not damage as easily as our physical bodies, because if it did, I don't believe that we would continue to return here even if we do return to 'new bodies'. Now, is that a lost "positive" that people think of?

Regarding the real sense of loss, longing and anguish, I healed that for one of my WWII lifetimes and am currently doing so for the other. Whenever I find something difficult in my current lifetime that I know I had back then that would help, that's when the longing returns. I long for what I had back then, because what I had was what worked, and I always used to say to my guides: "I want what I had in Germany, now." And they would ask me: "What is it that you actually want from there? Do you want persecution? The Reich?" and I'd answer.."I just want everyone I had back then now. physically." It took me a long time to realise that what I wanted from the Reich, was what I still had only in a different form. Once I learned I still had what I wanted, the anguish disappeared.

So, I have come to believe there is a wall for my protection from the "Lost Good". Consequently, though I really long to scale it I also realize that it may be protecting me from memories of someone or something that would not allow any contentment in my current lifetime. You may be the same. Perhaps there is a lifetime (or more) so good or perhaps with a relationship or something else so good about it that its memory would imperil your ability to find any happiness in your current lifetime. Would opening that door add anything, or would it just subtract from whatever you have in your current lifetime? Only you can say, but I am starting to believe that the Lost Good does play a role in these things.

Sometimes scaling that wall is not in our best interests. There have been many walls I've scaled in finding out about my WWII lifetimes and I look back and think that I really shouldn't have scaled the walls that I did. I found heaps of information that was useless and served me no purpose. It didn't give me any contentment, nor did it actually give me any sort of closure. If anything it ripped open still seeping wounds and forced me to heal what I had already healed. That wasted a lot of energy - energy that I could have used healing something that had a purpose to be known. WWII has one of the most comprehensive array of books, films, archives - anything that we, as past life researchers could ever want, but not all of it is useful to us. Is that a "lost good"? perhaps so, but perhaps it isn't because whether we remember it in a past life or not, not all is truth.

As my guides always tell me: "Find the roses among the thorns and that will be worth your energy. The thorns protect the truth (the roses), but only the brave seek to walk through them in order to be healed. Use the roses wisely and tell the truth of history, for no one else can tell it better than you."

Eva x

 

[baro-san]

A think that this study can be related to the "lost good" feeling, why the "pain" may give an impression, and an effect, more significant than the good and normal experiences do. This is caused by the limiting beliefs of the subjects, and not by design. It can be overcome.

The scientific paper shows how expectations effect physical changes in the body. It brought the thought of how pain and deprivation, as side effects of practice, impact your belief of having realizations about truth.

Although awarded the 2024 Ig® Nobel Prize for Medicine, the observations are significant:

• MEDICINE PRIZE [SWITZERLAND, GERMANY, BELGIUM]
  to: Lieven A. Schenk, Tahmine Fadai, and Christian Büchel,
  
  for demonstrating that fake medicine that causes painful side-effects can be more effective than fake medicine that does not cause painful side-effects.
  
  REFERENCE: “How Side Effects Can Improve Treatment Efficacy: A Randomized Trial,” Lieven A. Schenk, Tahmine Fadai, and Christian Büchel, Brain, vol. 147, no. 8, August 2024, pp. 2643–2651.
  <doi.org/10.1093/brain/awae132>
  
  Abstract:
  
  While treatment side effects may adversely impact patients, they could also potentially function as indicators for effective treatment. In this study, we investigated whether and how side effects can trigger positive treatment expectations and enhance treatment outcomes.
  
  In this pre-registered trial (DRKS00026648), 77 healthy participants were made to believe that they will receive fentanyl nasal sprays before receiving thermal pain in a controlled experimental setting. However, nasal sprays did not contain fentanyl, rather they either contained capsaicin to induce a side effect (mild burning sensation) or saline (inert). After the first session, participants were randomized to two groups and underwent functional MRI. One group continued to believe that the nasal sprays could contain fentanyl whilethe other group was explicitly informed that no fentanyl was included. This allowed for the independent manipulation of the side effects and the expectation of pain relief.
  
  Our results revealed that nasal sprays with a side effect lead to lower pain than inert nasal sprays without side effects. The influence of side effects on pain was dependent on individual beliefs about how side effects are related to treatment outcome, as well as on expectations about received treatment.Functional MRI data indicated an involvement of the descending pain modulatory system including the anterior cingulate cortex and the periaqueductal gray during pain after experiencing a nasal spray with side effects.
  
  In summary, our data show that mild side effects can serve as a signal for effective treatment thereby influencing treatment expectations and outcomes, which is mediated by the descending pain modulatory system. Using these mechanisms in clinical practice could provide an efficient way to optimize treatment outcome. In addition, our results indicate an important confound in clinical trials, where a treatment (with potential side effects) is compared to placebo.

 

[fireflydancing]

S&S,
This is a really good question and answering such a question goes very deep. Right to the core of our existence. Many layers.

It is my belief that we all want the good and the good life. There are just so many obstacles. The block of amnesia is one of them. Sometimes a lack of tools, or better say, the lack of knowledge to use the tools around us. I'll try to narrow down a bit in giving a response.

I think that the answer to those questions (because searching for the Good contains many questions that follow up) lies in ourselves. It's a weird path to descend into your own energy. I'll share some of my experiences to make it more understandable.

Some time ago, I was in a grey mood. Not really depressed, not happy. I was questioning my purpose in life because I was (am) in a kind of stagnation. More than eight years ago, I experienced a Kundalini awakening that transformed my life but over time all the exciting phenomena faded to a zero point, sometimes below zero. I was thinking all the time: And now what? Will it come back? Is this it? Am I supposed to do another step? What direction? Shall I fall asleep until I die?
An uncanny feeling, no fear, no direction, no movement. For months and months in a row.

Then I thought: ok, Kundalini energy is often called Shakti energy. In Indian philosophy, Shiva and Shakti go together. I already had the experience of Shakti, maybe I need to find the Shiva energy, maybe that's the next step. All those kinds of thoughts whirled around my head. I went into a meditative state, and tried to astral project as a way to find answers (it didn't work). Then suddenly I knew someone was with me, next to me. It had a kind of 'dark' voice, so I assumed a kind of male presence. He told me not to 'go out' to find answers but to go within. I was shown several dynamics between several of my past lives. Like my anger and disbelieve that I had been betrayed by my own relatives in my life as a Mayan girl and how the participants of the drama and trauma came back in consequent lives to make me understand their own pain. The father who had given me away to strangers in the Mayan life, came back to me as a son who left me at the same age in my life as a widow on the islands (probably the Faroe Islands or close to them). It will take too much time to describe the several insights and connections between myself and several people in former lives. This experience made me understand and transcend pure pain on multiple levels in my former lives. Because I also felt the pure love from the people who had hurt me. Most of them are in my present life as well (something to make it even more complicated).
At the end of this session, this spirit visitor (I started to call him the Shiva energy, not as a blue deity but as someone who can complement my lack of understanding) made me look at my heart. It was emanating pure white light. I smiled because I saw the shadows of my ribs as well. That was the end.

Recently, he came back. I was/am still in this grey zone of stagnation. He came in a meditative state and just asked me: What made you proud of yourself in this life? I knew he was with me although he didn't say anything else this time. Well, in general, I have a bad memory, but now I was able to go back to all kinds of memories in my actual life. I suddenly remembered names, people, situations, and scenes from the past. Like there were bubble-like windows floating before my closed eyes and I could dive through such windows to enter past events/situations. This was so great and made me so joyful. I relived that my simple existence had made so many people happy (my parents, aunts, grandparents etc.). I remembered worksituations, funny things I had done. Now that I write this down, I suddenly realize that several 'big accomplishments' in my life were not there. It was mostly about pure joy, inspiration that I had given to others using creativity and respect. It's been a while since this experience but the effect still remains in me. It made me realize and experience the worth of my existence right now. The so-called good was often in just existing or interacting with people when it impacted them in a good way. When I worked as a teacher, it was not the knowledge that I passed through (also important in a way) but merely being there with them, interacting, lifting them up.

Funny to experience and realize that the 'Good' is in the small things that we easily overlook. And the 'Good' can also be a string of small events, like the pearls on a necklace. And all those little pearls together make a beautiful jewel.

I hope this above inspires some of the readers of this forum to give it a try and to look inside for answers. It doesn't hurt to search for the good inside of you in a brutally honest way. We are often teached to be humble and modest but that is counterproductive for this process. Just search for it and as soon as you find it and acknowledge it, you'll be so happy. And that makes you recognize it in others too (which makes you humble paradoxally, lol).

 

[cloud potato]

My thoughts... I forget that detachment is love. Not that you are rendered dispassionate, but letting go builds love. It is true.
And I believe the now is more glorious than my best lost good. I remain hopeful that there is even more good to be had. And even more magic and mystery to experience. Sure, not everything is joy. But I let go and remember so much joy.

One time, I was hit with a spontaneous PL flashback. I believe a friend at the time triggered it. We were coworkers... I was knelt down towards a lower shelf arranging food items that were on display when suddenly, my friend who had been talking to me, sounded completely different than his regular self. Suddenly I had a vision of us as children, barefoot on red sand, leaned up against a clay hut- we were laughing and giggling. We were playing a game! I felt so much happiness from that moment.

Like that it was gone. I was bewildered, what just happened? His voice returned to normal. I stood up confused. Thinking on it now makes me really happy. But I am not attached. And like firefly suggest, I realize now I've many similar experiences from *this life. My thoughts are... don't obsess to such a degree that you can't recognize Love as a present and guiding intelligence.

Harrowing separation... Ecstatic union... All of this and more, I will taste again.