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IAmYouAreWeAre

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Reincarnation can appear to exist but is not you'll never exist the same, nothing will be the same of you but the 3 upper Sefiroth. You're unique as individuality and if you don't help humanity somehow achieve greater goals and progress, if you don't help at least Nature to exist in harmony; then you you'll be acting against yourself even through mere inaction. We have to do good to the coming generations until they grow enough spiritually to recreate each time-space frame(alike time travelling but you always travel forwards) and then find us as helpers, copy-paste us in a separate Earth dimension (possibly a copy of it before all this suffering starts) and let us live as immortal gardeners and carers of it. If you like an individual are doing only selfish things you're not helping the future generations who will prove your rescuer.

You want proof? It's not an opinion as you said about my deleted post. Jesus said it with the parable of the dishonest manager.
You're sharing your riches(individuality and talents) with the future generations. And still everything is you in it's higher dimensions.
 
IAmYouAreWeAre, preaching will usually get your posts removed; abide by the forum guidelines if you want your posts to remain! I'm very tempted to do it with this post, but will leave it for now to be an example of the limits that are appropriate - this is at (or over) the line as far as I'm concerned.

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IAmYouAreWeAre, preaching will usually get your posts removed; abide by the forum guidelines if you want your posts to remain! I'm very tempted to do it with this post, but will leave it for now to be an example of the limits that are appropriate - this is at (or over) the line as far as I'm concerned.

Good exercise of the freedom of speech. I don't like it much, either, when Christian Holier-Than-Thou types turn up. The particular type irks me. Mostly because they tend to be weak of body and spirit and not very right-minded when it comes to taking moral action. When it matters. Like going to actual war against an equal or more powerful foe or in intervening against an evil taking place. All they do is squabble and pucker up. Just like modern people trying to score social credit by virtue signaling. It is always more about fussing and seeking out the 'heretics' who believe differently. I don't get that, either. I would never join a communist forum or organization and preach to them. I often talk out in the gray zone, sometimes out of turn, admittedly. I know I have a streak of something similar. However, I don't seek out people. It is more of a reaction and trouble holding it in. But seeking them out to rant at them seems ridiculous.

I do not miss that particular part of the past, when religious sectarian types held sway over life and death. The inquisition, for example. But I do acknowledge that a lot of good and many beautiful and eternal works were produced by them. Us, I guess. Or the times when it was a unifying factor against outside enemies instead of a force used to destructive ends internally within 'Christendom'. Like the Hunnic and Mongol invasions and the (very necessary if one really knows history) crusades. If it had not been for those times, we would not exist today and, I believe, neither would any higher civilization. For good and ill, admittedly.

Anybody who has done a regression or five knows it is real. As a former Catholic, reincarnation has explained far more to me than anything the Church ever taught me. In my opinion it gives a whole new sense to everything. I have been a Christian for many lives and I do like much of the culture around it. I like how it creates healthy and strong families, for one. "You shall know a tree by its fruit", and all that. I guess that in many ways, it is a good tree. When it comes down to it. And I still go to Church occasionally. It is a good experience and there are as many good people as annoying virtue-signaling types. Despite the pet peeves and the Church being bullheadedly wrong when it comes to reincarnation. Heaven is no less real even if the good old pagans were right about how things relating to death and rebirth really work.

I mean... In my opinion and all that happy crap. Humbly, respectfully and so on. Typically, I guess I can't help preaching, either. -_- Bottom line, though, I like that he gets to speak. I hate the whole thing where people are 'denied a platform'.
 
The platform is not denied, the attitude/presentation is what is being censored.

I was introduced to a quotation yesterday that I liked that goes along the nines you wrote Ritter.
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi
 
Hi Ken,

For the first time, I feel like I have to disagree with you. There is nothing particularly "preachy" about what this guy is saying in the post above, though it is such an incomprehensible jumble that I have a hard time understanding what he IS trying to say:


Of course, I can take in a word/concept here and there, but his use of "Jesus" might as well be "Einstein" or the name of some other "Authority". Likewise, there is no harm in throwing in a quote from the Bible or the Gita if you want to. Anyhow, maybe I missed something because I didn't see the first post that was deleted. Likewise, though basically incoherent in its current form, I would be curious to let him try to restructure and represent whatever his basic premise is so that I can see where he is coming from. HOWEVER, this thread definitely doesn't belong under the "Past Lives" heading, but most likely should be moved to the "Reincarnation, Religion and Spirituality" heading.

Hi Ritter,

You seem to walk back some of the harshest things you just said about Christians in your post by the time you got to the end of it. However, it does seem like you are reacting to a dearly cherished stereotype instead of to anyone you actually know. Otherwise, as a Christian, I might tend to feel a bit miffed. :cool:

Cordially,
S&S
 
The platform is not denied, the attitude is what is being censored.

I was introduced to a quotation yesterday that I liked that goes along the nines you wrote Ritter.
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi

**** right. I like the Christ, as well.

A funny thought just struck me. World views of all kinds usually do come with an attached attitude, though, don't they? I mean anything that can be viewed as a complete or nearly complete world view has intolerance built in. Only truly blank slates, if they exist, could be non-judgmental. Like christianity, islam, communism, liberalism, buddhism, hinduism, national socialism, perennial traditionalism (where I belong, for the record) and so forth. Hardly any of those are inherently 'tolerant' towards all the others. Most of them are at extreme odds with one or several of the others. Christianity vs. Most others, Communism vs. All Religions and opposing ideologies and even its own 'ideologically deviant' forms, Liberalism believing it is tolerant but in reality only tolerating thoroughly liberal points of view (this forum for example), Buddhists and Hindus hating Islam and its followers (common conflict in South and East Asia), National Socialism against Liberalism and Communism... You get the point, I presume. For this reason, I don't think I can pretend to not be partial. Humans seem to always be. Even the son of God had pretty definite ideas about what is good and what is not. So I guess even the divine does have convictions about things which they relate to others. Natural laws seem to exist and not be very relativistic or tolerant about things. Which I presume could be taken as a sign that God pretty much is like that, too.

So, what is the point in pretending? There are things that classical (republicans/conservatives) and modern liberals ('lefties') are intolerant against. Which is pretty much each other and everything which does not fit into the liberal world view or which does not tolerate the same. Intolerance against perceived intolerance. Which is essentially a real catch 22. I would say it is highly amusing, from a perspective like that.

Just my few cents.
 
Reincarnation can appear to exist but is not you'll never exist the same, nothing will be the same of you but the 3 upper Sefiroth. You're unique as individuality and if you don't help humanity somehow achieve greater goals and progress, if you don't help at least Nature to exist in harmony; then you you'll be acting against yourself even through mere inaction. We have to do good to the coming generations until they grow enough spiritually to recreate each time-space frame(alike time travelling but you always travel forwards) and then find us as helpers, copy-paste us in a separate Earth dimension (possibly a copy of it before all this suffering starts) and let us live as immortal gardeners and carers of it. If you like an individual are doing only selfish things you're not helping the future generations who will prove your rescuer.

You want proof? It's not an opinion as you said about my deleted post. Jesus said it with the parable of the dishonest manager.
You're sharing your riches(individuality and talents) with the future generations. And still everything is you in it's higher dimensions.
I believe that you misspelled "its" ... ;) Vehemence leads us in error.
 
Everyone wants to be right and feel like their beliefs are valid, so preaching is often kind of a given whether we do it intentionally or not. The mission statement of many religious institutions is to make disciples of Jesus Christ (not entirely sure what this dude is trying to accomplish), but putting down or dismissing other people's beliefs/experiences isn't the way to go about that.

You are right though, reincarnation can give you all kinds of answers that religion might not, although it's all a matter of perspective.
 
Reincarnation can appear to exist but is not you'll never exist the same, nothing will be the same of you but the 3 upper Sefiroth. You're unique as individuality and if you don't help humanity somehow achieve greater goals and progress, if you don't help at least Nature to exist in harmony; then you you'll be acting against yourself even through mere inaction. We have to do good to the coming generations until they grow enough spiritually to recreate each time-space frame(alike time travelling but you always travel forwards) and then find us as helpers, copy-paste us in a separate Earth dimension (possibly a copy of it before all this suffering starts) and let us live as immortal gardeners and carers of it. If you like an individual are doing only selfish things you're not helping the future generations who will prove your rescuer.

You want proof? It's not an opinion as you said about my deleted post. Jesus said it with the parable of the dishonest manager.
You're sharing your riches(individuality and talents) with the future generations. And still everything is you in it's higher dimensions.
You may not be aware that many of the ancient Judahites/Israelites/Jews and the early Gnostics and very early RC's accepted reincarnation as fact. It was only around the second or third century AD that it was declared heretical, then the next pope made it punishable by death.

The muslim Druz also believe in reincarnation, which has led to other muslims denouncing them as heretic.

Does it not strike you as more than chance that for millenia, worldwide, different peoples in different civilisations and various religions have accepted it? It has been the single common constant apparently from the dawn of time.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
Reincarnation exists but is misunderstood
You may not be aware that many of the ancient Judahites/Israelites/Jews and the early Gnostics and very early RC's accepted reincarnation as fact. It was only around the second or third century AD that it was declared heretical, then the next pope made it punishable by death.

The muslim Druz also believe in reincarnation, which has led to other muslims denouncing them as heretic.

Does it not strike you as more than chance that for millenia, worldwide, different peoples in different civilisations and various religions have accepted it? It has been the single common constant apparently from the dawn of time.

Best wishes,

Angie

Reincarnation exists but it's misunderstood, it's the one and the same Life entering many lives, karma is your actions directed from yourself to yourself in another individual temporality.

I consider myself something like theosophist and a brave spiritual person. Not the usual Christian, Muslim etc. Although I accept all the scriptures as holy, I don't read them literally.
 
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