Time is required for life to exist

[Totoro]

I believe experiencing time itself is the reason we are here in this dimension, however, this article suggests that time is also necessary for life to exist and evolve.

Everything here is tied to time, which doesn't exist "over there". It's an interesting read. I love how interconnected so many things are in this universe.

Ultimately, time is intrinsic to our experiences of the world, and it is necessary for evolution to happen.

Article link

 

[baro-san]

Although I have a scientific and engineering background, I believe that science can't explain the nature of the physical-reality looking at it from inside, through the five-senses. Also, science doesn't use intuition, and intellectual reasoning isn't enough.

There are many opinions about "reality", taken as postulates, that I believe to be incorrect. For example: "time doesn't exist over-there". I believe that the physical-time as we experience it has a different perspective over-there, as the physical-reality has too. Physical-time has a scope limited to the physical-reality, in the same way as the time experienced by the characters in a video-game isn't the time that we experience outside that game.

Thanks for the link.

 

[fireflydancing]

There are many opinions about "reality", taken as postulates, that I believe to be incorrect. For example: "time doesn't exist over-there". I believe that the physical-time as we experience it has a different perspective over-there, as the physical-reality has too. Physical-time has a scope limited to the physical-reality, in the same way as the time experienced by the characters in a video-game isn't the time that we experience outside that game.

Do you say that you don't agree with the opinion that 'time doesn't exist on the other side"?.

 

[Owl]

How do we infere that time even "exists" in the first place? By movement, of course. We know that an hour has passed because by a predetermined convention of "ticking cycles" the small hand on the clock got from one number to the other. We know that a day has passed because the Earth did a full rotation on itself and we see the Sun in the position we predicted based on calculations. Those experiments that mention that time has slowed down on top of a building vs on the bottom or in space vs on Earth basically just take into consideration the measurements of some sort of clock, the MOVEMENTS of the clock mechanisms.

As for time perception, more and faster movement is perceived as time going slower, while less movement as time going faster. For this, I like to think of the concept of frames per minute. Think of a movie from the 1920s, the movement of the characters is choppy because they used less frames per minute. When you compare it to a hyperrealistic movie from today, where more frames per minute are seen, the character from 1920 will be perceived as moving faster.

So my point is: time is a convention used to explain movement. There is no time per se, neither here nor in the astral. There is only movement and its perception.

What is movement? Is the act of something (a body, a particle, a wave) going from location A to location B. Location B could be microscopic and/or even within itself (thinking of peristalsis). For movement to exist, however, we need space to exist. Although the opposite may also be true. Can there be a space where absolutely nothing moves? It would have to be a place where there are no atoms or subatomic particles of any kind and is unaffected by physics. I cannot think of any place like that.

Are we here to experience time? I'd have to rephrase, are we here to experience movement? I would have to say no, as nothing indicates to me that there is no movement in the astral, things just move differently, therefore they are perceived differently. Is movement necessary to exist and evolve? For sure, movement is everything.

 

[baro-san]

Do you say that you don't agree with the opinion that 'time doesn't exist on the other side"?.

Yes, I don't agree. I believe that there is time on the other side, just not the time we experience. The time we experience is seen differently, as a dimension of the physical-reality framework, as the 3D- space and probability are other dimensions.

EDIT: From the other side, our time is seen the way we see time during regressions: your focus can jump around, back-and-forth.

 

[fireflydancing]

So do I. I also don't believe that there is no time 'over there'. Different it is, maybe slower, maybe circular, maybe like a spiral, maybe in a way we can't imagine from our current point of view.

 

[baro-san]

In the following story there's a good reference to how "physical-time" works.

"The Egg" by Andy Weir (2009)

• The story can be read here: www.paullowe.org/the-egg/
  wiki: It is about the main character, who is referred to as "you" (in the second person), and God, who is "me" (in the first person).

It has all the right elements. It is just up to each reader to intuitively interpret it at his level of "maturity" (!)

 

[Totoro]

So do I. I also don't believe that there is no time 'over there'. Different it is, maybe slower, maybe circular, maybe like a spiral, maybe in a way we can't imagine from our current point of view.

I say time doesn't exist, as shorthand. I think we exist as energy or whatever, forever to the point time has no meaning.

 

[There and back again]

I don't believe that time is unique to this dimension/universe as the possibilities have always been endless.