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Why Do So Many People Believe To Be John Lennon?

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windows2thesoul

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I wasn't sure where to ask this question so I am using this section of the forum. Feel free to move it.

Over the years of studying reincarnation and reading different cases on the internet I've noticed that there's a number of individuals who think they might be the reincarnation of John Lennon. Why do so many people believe this?

I'm assuming most of you know who John Lennon is, but if you have no clue here is Lennon's biography:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennon

Now, I'm not going to mention any names but the people who confessed to be Lennon start by having dreams, musical abilities, or they simply look like him. Is it because he was famous? Is it because he started one of the most beloved bands of all time?

I think if John Lennon was to come back to this earth he would be reincarnated as someone we would not recognize. The same goes for the other ex Beatle George Harrison, but that is just my opinion. What do you think?
 
1) Over the years I think there have been people who claimed to be the reincarnation of famous people like Cleopatra, etc. I think right now John Lennon is one of the more popular historical figures who died too soon.


2) When he reincarnates (not "IF") he may come back within his own family. Read Carol's book "Return From Heaven". I believe that happens more than anyone has thought. Think about your own relatives.
 
My take on this is that, these people may have some good reason to think so. They may have lived in a life previous this current one, and may have been a fan, or lived in a place where they could have had contact with Lennon related materials.


So when a person remembers, they may see these imageries and jump to the conclusion that they were. Memory works in funny ways like that. Even in our current lives, our memories get warped, and the same can definitely be said for past life memories. It's hard enough to remember circumstances going on now, let alone 50 years from now or even 100's, to 1,000's from now. Which is why, most new memories should be taken with a grain of salt, until a clearer picture can be seen.


People focus too much on the physical and talent side of things, instead of the memories. Talents/physical traits don't prove a case, but if you have the memories and details that can't be provided unless you were actually there. That's different.
 
I've wondered that too, why many believe they were so and so famous person. It's always been of my belief that those that reach fame status, or historical figures don't reincarnate. Makes total sense too that those that think they are might have had close interactions or an abovehand knowledge of certain figures. As with myself and my extreme interest (that's my nice way of saying obsession) with Queen Elizabeth I... I don't think I was her but I do believe I had a past life in that time period.
 
sarajaney said:
As with myself and my extreme interest (that's my nice way of saying obsession) with Queen Elizabeth I... I don't think I was her but I do believe I had a past life in that time period.
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That would make sense. Even most commoners and peasants would at least know who the ruler was.
 
On the documentary 'Buddy, You're Not John Lennon'


A 75 minute film 'Buddy, You're Not John Lennon' (on YouTube) was made by a film-maker; whose friend believed he was the reincarnation of the late John Lennon.


With very little mention about this film, can be inferred (as the film's title implies), that this at best a weak case of reincarnation involving a famous person, hence attracting very little news interest?


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The main question here is, "did the film-maker, and friend first find-their ways to...the 'Past Life Forum' for guidance in how to proceed; before "going to the trouble" of making the film?
 
I think there are a lot of unstable, delusional people out there.

Liam Gallagher claimed to be the reincarnation of Lennon and he was born years before Lennon died.
 
Maybe John Lennon just is a character many people would relate to? Somebody people would love to identify with. How they imagine him to have been, that is.

For some reason, I still remember vividly how it was in the news at German TV. I had not idea who John Lennon was, at age 9, when they said he just got killed, but somehow it struck me. Maybe there just is something about him...? Gotta love his song "Imagine".

It is possible, of course, that I loved the Beatles in my life before this one. They existed before 1971 after all.

Or, maybe, John Lennon just was one of the people who appeared throughout history who were so highly charismatic that people will remember them even in their next life.

One could ask the same question for several figures: why do several people remember to have been them?

I cannot answer this question.

I definitely was NOT John Lennon, and neither did I meet him, of that I am sure. Yet still, there is *something* about him...
 
I had a long conversation with 'John Lennon' about art coming off of a particularly heavy night as a teen SeekerOfKnowledge. It was artificially induced of course, not a real occurance, but I can understand how people may be drawn to his character.

When you mentioned the news of John Lennon being shot I remembered standing in my parents living room watching the news of Lennon being shot. I wondered if it was a real memory so I just checked to see if the news reports showed it to be at night because that's how I remembered it..they did. I guess my memories accurate even though I was only two and a half at the time.

I just don't understand how more than one person could claim to have pl memories of the one soul. Can peoples capacity for self deception be that intense?
 
Let's not forget there are delusional people, there are pretenders, there are wannabees, etc.. Even in the case of sane and honest people, there might be explanations we don't know about, or are beyond our comprehension capabilities.

I believe that vehement people are most likely to be wrong, sane or not, honest or not.
 
Well there are some explanations from a couple of view points that are completely valid but one has been tossed up here on the forums and a couple of other places that our spirits in the higher realm or whatever will share each others experiences sometimes as templates while there is more it gets complicated from what I can find learning wise. We all live in a strange and sometimes very cruel world that likes to play tricks on us all one way or another so no surprise when it comes to false memories and delusions.
 
I don't see the point in every soul having earthly incarnations if souls can just 'download' memories There and back again. I think the most likely explanation is that there are a lot of delusional people out there.
 
Jim, a thought just struck me as I read your comment. Have you ever wanted someone to understand something and know that you couldn't have them understand it without them being there? Perhaps it is something like that where that lifetime primes you so that you are setup to better experience what you want in this lifetime.
 
Do you mean a lived lifetime or a 'downloaded' memory Ken?

There are many things people in my life don't understand since remembering reincarnation. If I do have another life I'm sure my current life is priming me for it. Unfortunately with what I've learned about heroism in my lifetime I'll probably spend my next life being considered an abject coward. Cowardice always sickened me. I don't know how I'll handle it.
 
My thought was that those 'memories' could simply be a shortcut to being in a position to learn whatever it is that you wanted to experience this time around (so that you did not have to really have those particular things in a lifetime yourself). Sort of like a guided imagery where a therapist making suggestions of 'seeing a meadow', putting your senses in a direction toward the intended goal.
 
From what I can understand is that downloaded memories work like having real ones where the subconscience mind or spirit has something to work with in the same way as experienced or real memories work as traditionally understood in reincarnation.
Personally I am pretty much alone in a lot of subjects like this in my personal life so I have had to live with it since my teens though this subject is recent for me.

Jim try to have some hope that the next life is going to be ok and keep your head up, I don't like my current life either for reasons that I have like some family have been dealt a bad hand including a suicide.
 
That's certainly possible of course Ken. I just think that given the thousands upon thousands of years mans been on Earth we all have plenty of opportunities to experience at our own pace. I don't see the advantage to having someone else's memories. I know that, for me at least, my souls journey has been unique. As Star Treks Mr Spock says "infinite diversity in infinite combinations and how they combine to give our lives meaning and beauty". The meaning of life is in our relationships in my opinion and the beauty is in our individual experiences. There's nothing like rolling ones sleeves up and getting into the nitty gritty of earthbound life.

In my opinion its the human experience that's the lesson. The idea of downloaded 'memories' contradicts the experience. I just think its a convoluted way of justifying for oneself the behaviour of delusional people.
 
Jim78 said:
Why do you feel that vehement people are wrong baro-san?
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:) It's simple: vehemence means higher beta frequencies, and higher frequency means less judgement and more impulse. It was / is good for the fight or flight stage of animal and human evolution, but it takes us away from being in touch with our intellectual and intuitive parts of our minds, which are stronger toward alpha frequencies.

Pay attention around to people, on subjects that you're neutral about. You'll notice what I noticed.

Also, as we create our reality with our thoughts, emotions, beliefs, and because vehemence arises when negative thoughts, emotions, beliefs dominate, what we create and attract in our realities will be similar thought and physical forms. That's why compassion accompanied by anger and / or hate, however justified do we believe them to be, is bad for us, and everybody.
 
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Jim78 said:
I don't see the point in every soul having earthly incarnations if souls can just 'download' memories There and back again. I think the most likely explanation is that there are a lot of delusional people out there.
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My understanding about "imprinting" is that they help, especially less experienced souls. It's like you do your homework then go to school and take a test.
 
There and back again said:
From what I can understand is that downloaded memories work like having real ones where the subconscience mind or spirit has something to work with in the same way as experienced or real memories work as traditionally understood in reincarnation.
Personally I am pretty much alone in a lot of subjects like this in my personal life so I have had to live with it since my teens though this subject is recent for me.

Jim try to have some hope that the next life is going to be ok and keep your head up, I don't like my current life either for reasons that I have like some family have been dealt a bad hand including a suicide.
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"Imprints" and actual past lives should differ only in terms of karmic balance. The "imprints" don't create thought forms, so they don't affect your karmic balance, as your past lives do.
 
My model is similar to a school model. You don't go to school to experience school, but to learn. What to learn? Learn to master your thoughts and emotions, and get better at creating reality. In the non-physical, our thoughts and emotions instantaneously create thought forms, and can easily and unwittingly generate out of control nightmares. Here, space and time slow down reality creation, and we can practice and learn.
 
baro-san said:
"Imprints" and actual past lives should differ only in terms of karmic balance. The "imprints" don't create thought forms, so they don't affect your karmic balance, as your past lives do.
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Exactly and was thinking about this while in town today, you are who you are from one life to the next.
 
Sorry lads. I'm just not buying imprinting. Its my understanding that our 'homework' is the life review we experience after we die...you know...after our school day is finished...not before. I still see no purpose in downloading someone else's memories.
 
AlexD said:
But if our evolution could be compared to a classroom, then wouldn't imprint be like copying homework from a classmate? In the end the one receiving it would never experience those things first hand... it's a bit of a foreign concept to me.
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I have had at least two teachers/instructors who used old work as examples for the class to learn from and what they expected of the class to make if they wanted decent grades.
 
But I'm sure you still had to do your own school work though There and back again. I had teachers do that to but when it came around to my turn to be tested I had to do my own work and it was usually with a completely different set of questions. It makes no sense for new souls to incarnate if they can just download experience just like it makes no sense to test a student and let them copy someone else's answers.
 
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