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Hi John,


Going back a few posts, apologies if my queries got a little too close to faces of the sun gods. I can see that the query re "beards" was too close, but hope that the query re headgear (which is part of clothing) is allowable. However, no disrespect is intended.


In terms of the attacks of illness you are having, I think you need to start checking into Kundalini, sometimes called the serpent power. This is the name given to a power that rises up to activate various psychic centers as people begin and continue progressing with meditation and spiritual/psychic development, though it doesn't happen with everyone. However, everything that has been happening to you tends to indicate that it is happening with you (believe me, I have read quite a bit on this topic). As the Kundalini energy rises and activates various psychic centers associated with particular neural centers and bodily organs, it causes a wide variety of symptoms that can include those you are describing. Part of the reason seems to be that the energy that is coursing through the centers if burning out all types of physical and psychical impurities, realigning things, opening channels, breaking down barriers, etc. Anyhow, a simple search of "kundalini rising and nausea" brought a variety of on-topic hits that include symptoms such as those you are experiencing, but this is only the tip of the iceberg. Kundalini is an enormous area of knowledge that I believe was as well known in ancient Egypt as it was in ancient India. It sounds to me like you are in the process of a full scale Kundalini awakening. From another standpoint, you well may be recovering what once was yours, and probably will be yours again--i.e., a much more fully activated physio-psychic energy system leading to psychic insights, perceptions and powers as well as a more "spiritualized" knowledge/perception of life and the universe.


The latter diagnosis comes from an amateur who has not personally experienced this type of phenomena, but you definitely seem to be exhibiting the symptoms reported by others.


Cordially,


SeaAndSky


PS--No time to get around to some of the other things you have mentioned, but all interesting as usual.
 
Hi S&S Thanks for the info on Kundalini.. I have never heard of this before. It is a fascinating subject. I spend over two hours today reading up about it.. On the surface it appears to be complicated, maybe it's not but it gives something else to educate myself on.. I will update you as I understand more about it.. I doubt I could possibly have such an ability. About the headgear the gods were wearing.. As I said it was pharaoh like.. I have searched hundreds of images, none are a match, but that does not alter they were pharaoh like.. I certainly do not mean this in a racist way but nobody has asked me if the original gods the sun gods were white, brown or black. Not that it matters and I would never say anyway but its interesting and a reflection of the times we now live in.


Regards
 
I agree with SeaAndSky, but if the research is too much right now (it can get pretty techno-babble ish) the way I see it is this . . . Using your own terminology . . .


Your spiritual self taps you on the shoulder, points and says, "Hey! That's it!" There is a spike of energy that comes with this point, this contact.


John Tat, the physical you, reacts, "Oh [expletive], not this again."


The energy spike is translated by your body into a rush of adrenaline. And, so, you feel sick. Your feelings are totally understandable. A sense of satisfaction may not come for years, if ever at all. It is scary to put your trust into "invisible people". It is scary to let go.


There are steps you can take so you don't need the bucket. (Do you know how to ground yourself? If not, ask your source. He will know what method works best for you.) But, honestly, the best thing is just time and getting used to this new level of normal.


I saw your post on another thread about writing. I have to say, this is not that unusual either. Writers, artists, etc. lose themselves in their work all the time, but for you I think what is happening is you are learning how to listen better to your own intuition. Sometimes - often - they direct you, guide you, through that part of your brain. It is one of the easiest ways for them to get through. Keep writing! You might be striving for a point where you do not have to go so deep into a meditation in order to get useful information.
 
Good call SeaAndSky I was going to go that route next. Blueheart is right there is a lot of techno-babble -out there regarding Kundalini. If you choose to read a little about it I highly recommend the work of Bonnie Greenwell. She and my mother worked together over 25 years ago when people were responding to spiritual awakenings and there was a lot of what I would call New Age crap going on. Her work is well grounded- researched and hopefully can help.
 
I have been reading up on Kundalini and Deborah on another thread talked about the Akashic records....This is all very complicated to me.. I read about both and I feel no connection to either whatsoever.. I wish I did but I don't... It's similar to me never reading any books about all of the issues of reincarnation, the mind and the spiritual.. I feel no need to read about any of it never have.. It's not complicated for me.. It just happens.. This raises a serious question for me... Should I care about how and why it happens or not? .. This is a physical concern.. Within my spirituals self everything is fine
 
Hi John,


In terms of all of these suggestions, if they resonate, they tell you something and perhaps provide a path you can explore for further information. If not, maybe you might have general interest, but I don't see why you should feel compelled to explore a variety of areas that seem neither necessary nor interesting to you. Overall, these subject areas probably show that there are "similar" phenomena explored and/or experienced by others. However, that doesn't mean that the phenomena you and they are exploring are "identical" or that others are correct in their understanding of what is going on. Whatever is going on with others may not be what is going on with you--and you have to be the judge of that. In terms of the "illness" symptoms, they sounded similar to the variety of symptoms that are associated with Kundalini, but who knows. I was hopeful that they might reassure you, but maybe I shouldn't be trying.


From my own experience, I think there is something back there in the far past that you are reacting to, and that causes you to have a reaction when something "connects" for you. For me certain things--especially certain images or trains of thought when I am in a certain mood, almost a reverie--lead me into a sense of rushing/transformation into (or even possession by) another person or personality quite other than who I presently am. This is accompanied by gripping terror and almost electric waves of sensation, buzzing, tingleing, etc. in my body. I always consciously draw back and flee from this when it comes. I do not know if my subconscious safeguards would allow me to follow through even if I wanted to. I don't know the exact origin of this reaction, but my sense is that there are things that my mind flees from even now. There may be things I do not want to remember, and perhaps--for this life anyway--would be be better to forget.


What is happening with you may be somewhat similar to what happens to me. Different symptoms, but still a reaction to something that happened in the past, something that you are being reminded of--step-by-painful step--as this process continues. As I've mentioned before, one of my continuing impressions from being on this board is that everyone here seems to have at least a touch of PTSD, and some have a very heavy dose. Those memories from the past aren't always very nice memories. In fact, it usually seems that the opposite is true. That seems to be one of the reasons why they keep forcing their way out--sooner or later we have to deal with them. Perhaps.


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi S&S I just came to the forum to check out if anything new had been posted on all of the threads.. As I'm sure you are the same as me I take great interest with all of the subjects being discussed at any time. I had to reply to you straight away because some of the things you said are accurate... As you know my spiritual self fled, if that is an accurate word from what was going on. Also as you know and I have also reported on this forum my source told me I was lost to them for many spiritual cycles. So yes some of what you said applies to me my spiritual self. This is something I work with and on all of the time along with everything else.. Something really bad happened and I fled. Its interesting how things work.. For the last couple of weeks I have been attempting to put together how the gods of Ancient Egypt evolved.. It all started and as I reported when I went into some for of meditative state while updating my file on the gods of Ancient Egypt. I have been going through my files that tell me what happened when I was meditating on this subject over a long period of time and I also have been doing some more serious meditation on it as well. What I have now is not to bad at all. Still a long way to go but the foundations of how the gods of Ancient Egypt came to be is there.. Very different to what is believed happened, even by Ancient Egyptians themselves .. Through this I'm beginning to put things together about what may have happened to me.. Blueheart is good.. she said a long time ago the way I was talking I may have been part of Akhenaten and his beliefs... she recognized the problems which I now believe are possibly true.. But what I did was not connected to Akhenaten because the reality was, I was on a completely different path to Akhenaten. As I have said I believe I had many incarnations into the original tribes and Ancient Egypt and a point was reached when I was possibly banished for my beliefs. That's a guess of course, but something bad did happen.. Now they (my source) wants me back


Regards
 
Hi John,


You have said some things I have long thought to be true. The question now is whether you can flesh out the facts you have just outlined and determine: what your beliefs were that caused you to be banished; who/what was it that banished you; what was the difference between their beliefs and your beliefs; how was the "sentence" of banishment carried out; was the sentence "spiritual" as well as "physical"; if (as you seem to indicate) the one(s) who banished you now want you back, why have they changed their mind(s); etc.?


Given your reference to Akhenaten, it sounds like you may have been banished for failing to adhere to his revolution. But if so, why would you remain banished after his attempt to change Egypt's religion was overthrown and Egypt turned back to its prior faith? It almost sounds like you were at odds both with the "new" religion proposed by Akhenaten and the "old" religion of Ancient Egypt--perhaps because you knew that neither one of them was in keeping with the original revelation of the "Sun Gods". If so, I am wondering "who" it is that is trying to retrieve you? Was your source part of the worship of the "old" Gods, but not the Sun Gods who has now realized that you were correct and he was incorrect?


Of course, you don't have to answer any of the above, even if/when you have answers. This is not an interrogation, and you are obviously not required to answer anything. But these are the kinds of questions that spring into my mind as I think about your situation. It remains, as always, very interesting. Of course, it will be up to you and perhaps to those you serve to make the ultimate determination of what and how much you reveal. But I do hope you will not conceal the final answers when you have them.


Cordially,


S&S
 
When I was meditating last night my spiritual self took me way way back. I'm posting what happened because it may be relevant to what I was talking about, but what is more important maybe some one can clarify what I saw. I was having the most violent of confrontations with a pharaoh about the gods.. Mostly about Horus.. It was a full on confrontation, no holes barred So much so it must have had some consequences, and also if it was not important my spiritual self would never have shown me It's not much to go on. I cannot find anything. I just hope someone has some ideas
 
S&S The only way I can answer some of your questions in a proper manner is setting out how the god's of Ancient Egypt came to be. I think this is the right thing to do, but it's one of those things I'm not sure about... should I or should I not


In answer to your question about who banished me, as I said that is a guess but something bad did happen. If I was banished then it was without doubt the pharaohs. I have several repeating real time memories of my spiritual self while mediating where I'm clashing with the pharaohs. One is very vivid.. I'm in an extremely headed exchange with a pharaoh over Horus. He wants to diminish Horus's influence and I'm objecting to that... My source I'm not sure who he is/was, But he is in total agreement with me about the original gods the sun gods. I have no idea if he always did or if he was a late conversion to the truth... For whatever the reasons were I chose to spiritually leave them all. Over countless incarnations I lost my way. My source now wants me back. The reasons why are continually evolving. As I have said my source told me I was lost to them for many incarnations (always plural) for many spiritual cycles. I know my spiritual self is happy to again be in contact with his roots.


Some of what I have found about the gods of Ancient Egypt is based on an experience I had a few weeks ago when I was in some form of meditative state while I was updating my file on the gods of Ancient Egypt. Because I was not in a proper mediating state with my spiritual self I cannot discount some is imagination.. But what it gave me was a tool that allows me to bring together and make some sense of the many real time memory's I have of the original tribes and gods I have seen through real time memory's my spiritual self.


What I'm attempting to do is put together an accurate account on how the gods of Ancient Egypt came to be.. I have not found much and what I have found is sketchy and lacks detail, so I still have a long way to go. What I have found has no resemblance to the recorded history of how the gods came to be in Ancient Egypt. That made me doubt that what I have been show/seen was accurate But that's no different to how I feel about most things I have seen through the real time memory's of my spiritual self. Some of these real time memory's are very clear others are muddled, and/or I cannot comprehend what I'm seeing. That is more likely what happens


But those that can be verified, most have been proven to be accurate. These are the times I must trust what I have seen, because as I said what I have found/seen is not supported by the written history of how the god's of Ancient Egypt came to be


It's difficult to explain in an accurate manner what I have seen.. I will do my best.


The original gods the sun gods were physical they came from earth. They defiantly did not come from Atlantis, because there never was such a place. That's all a fantasy


I don't know why I know that I just do. They came to us the original tribes. How many thousands of year before the unification of Egypt I don't know but it was many thousands of years.


As I have said many times both Horus and Anubis are both very important gods to both my spiritual self and source. I wondered how that could be when they both insist the original gods the sun gods were the first and only true gods.


Because of us the original tribes and our connections to the original gods something happened which I do not fully understand. Through the gods connections to us, the original tribes, the gods wanted our physical legitimacy to connect themselves to us. They became part of us and we became part of them. (I didn't explain that very well but it's the best I can do)


After spending some time with us the gods ascended. After they ascended the second sun was gone. When they ascended they took our physical legitimacy with them and left part of themselves with us. We exist together both here and were the gods ascended to. Both levels are the same. They told us all of this before they ascended


I have had enough that's enough for now.. there is still plenty to go
 
continuing.....Before they left there was some sort of ceremony... I'm not to sure what it was...I don't know if was a gathering/meeting between us or something of a more religious significance.. I'm not sure what happened either.. maybe they showed us some of their ways, but that's a guess... all I do know is something significant happened between us...What I did see clearly was they gave us two of there lions. One lion the other a lioness as symbols of there connection to us.


That's as much as I have on the original gods the sun gods. I understand its not very much.. I'm working on having more.


I have a little more about us the original tribes...


For obvious reasons, and at some point the ascended gods were given names. Horus and Anubis I'm sure were two of the names.. You would think Ra also came about this way..


The million dollar question, and at this point in time I have no answer to.. How long after the gods ascended were they given names? Was it hundreds or thousands of years? I think the original tribes and/or groups of the original tribes all picked one of the gods to be there god and they most likely gave them names. The other million dollar question is...did the names of the gods change over the thousands of years before the unification of Egypt?


I now understand why and how both my spiritual self and source can say the original gods the sun gods who came to us the original tribes were and are the only true gods and also have the same connections to Horus and Anubis .... They are one and the same.


There is no doubt that over the thousands of years after the original gods ascended and before the unification of Egypt.. how the gods came to be was lost to waves of mystical beliefs and opinions. But that did not take away from the facts of who the original gods the sun gods were. The gods of Ancient Egypt were the names given to the original gods the sun gods who came to us the original tribes then ascended, even though many of the important facts were lost in the haze of mystical beliefs.


The Ancient Egyptians invented many more gods than there were original gods. There was only twelve original gods. The scholars could possibly work out who the original twelve gods were.. I have tried but failed...As a result of these invented gods the purity of the original twelve gods was being continually watered down. That was one of the major issues I had with the pharaohs over many incarnations. The original gods will never allow that to happen again. There was never just one god, there has always been twelve... They were physical gods, not mystical gods.


Chaos ended and a new world of balance and knowledge began the day the original gods came to us the original tribes.. After they ascended we had a clear path and direction to take us out of chaos and into a new world of balance and knowledge.


It's important to understand, what actually happened.. This was not the beginning of time.. How the beginning of time happened is left to the story tellers, including those of Ancient Egypt


What happened was a rebirth of time.. out of chaos and into balance a new world emerged, the original gods the sun gods guided and taught us the original tribes to begin


I now understand a group of them are "the others" who will join me in the physical next time. We are the only ones left, all of "the others" have gone home,That makes me sad because I have been told me and "the others" who remain will never be allowed to go home...never


Another rebirth is not far away.. out of chaos a new world of balance and knowledge will emerge. Everyone will be given a choice.. everyone.. there is only the original gods the sun gods. The truth is the only way. The warriors of the gods will lead the world out of chaos and into a new world of balance and knowledge.


The original gods the sun gods who ascended took part of us the original tribes with them and left part of themselves with us the original tribes.. There were physical gods who came from earth.. Both levels are the same
 
Hi John,


Wow. This is pretty breath-taking stuff. And, overall, I find myself with surprisingly few questions. You have, in most places, made it clear what you don't know, so there is no point in asking questions there. However, you did not say that about some of your statements at the end. So, I'm going to follow-up there just to see if you have further info. For example, at the end you mention that most of the others from the original tribes had gone "home"--is this where the gods ascended to, and what do you mean by "home"? Also, you say that you and the other members of the original tribes that remain "will never be allowed to go home . . never." Do you know the reason why, this almost sounds like a punishment? Finally, you speak repeatedly of the gods as being physical gods, and state that "Both levels are the same." What levels are you speaking of? Does this mean the place that the gods ascended to (and maybe the others who have gone home) are physical places? Once again, these are just the questions that come to mind.


Cordially,


S&S
 
The other million dollar question is...did the names of the gods change over the thousands of years before the unification of Egypt?
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I would think so. They certainly did after the unification. Why would they not before?

It's important to understand, what actually happened.. This was not the beginning of time..
What happened was a rebirth of time.. out of chaos and into balance a new world emerged, the original gods the sun gods guided and taught us the original tribes to begin
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YES! I doubt you can find this in an internet search, but this is EXACTLY what Akhenaten was up to, when he founded his own city. Rituals were performed daily to do just this.

The original gods the sun gods who ascended took part of us the original tribes with them and left part of themselves with us the original tribes.. There were physical gods who came from earth.. Both levels are the same
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Without quoting the whole of what you have written, I have to say, I have thought for some time what you are trying to describe through some very old memories, most of which were probably the visions of a seer, is this. You seem to be describing the moment when the first kings of Egypt ( Who may be, as yet, unknown. Dynasty -1, if you will. ) became merged with the divine.


The pharaohs of ancient Egypt were called, "The Man of the Divinities." Did you know that? It was not just hyperbole or a meaningless title. They actually were part divine, and they became so, only when they were crowned. They were not born with this special divinity inside them. They were made so, when crowned, through a series of rituals. One of the rituals, was to give them their Horus name. From then on, the king was seen as the son of the sun god. Literally. And there is more. They received another Ka when they became king. This Ka, was the spirit of kingship, and it would be shared by every king before the present one, and be passed on to every king that would follow after. The same Ka, not one per person. At least one Ka was perpetually shared for every king, as long as there were kings. Additionally, a king could have many, many Kas, whereas a typical commoner would only have one.


I could go on a bit more, but I will leave it at that. Except for this. It was the king's JOB, his whole reason for being, to be the bridge between the realm of the gods and the earthly realm of men. And, yes, they saw both levels as being much the same.
 
Blueheart Thanks once again for your input.. Also once again you have guided me to questions I must ask of my spiritual self and source.. That has been and is of great help to me and helps guide me to what is going on
 
Blueheart... I have just come back to look at the term "The Man Of The Divinities" (I had forgotten what you said) so I can do some research on it.. No I had never heard of that..
 
Blueheart.. I have been trying to put some of the things you said into perspective... You pointed out that the pharaohs were part divine they were called "The Man Of Divinities" The original gods the sun gods as I have said looked like pharaohs and they were physical gods.. The pharaohs were also physical gods.. is that right? Is that a connection or not?..
 
I would think so, yes. And, yes, the ancient Egyptian Kings were considered physical gods. "The Divine God, Man of the Divinities, Son of Ra," were some of the ways they were described. But, you tell me.
 
HI John,


A few things of interest:


Al-Kemi means "Pharaonic Egypt." Priests who served gods, kings and queens were called hem-neter priests (God's servants). Those in the cults of non-royal and private persons were called hem-ka (Ka servants). The cults of both royal and private persons also demanded the services of the we'b priests (purificators). We'b priests served the king during his lifetime, and the title was common among physicians. - this source is from our resident Egyptologist PeterV


My research suggests that the Egyptians called their 'genesis' Zep Tepi... or The First Time. Zep means TIME -- Tepi means FIRST. But they suggest that TEPI has other connotations, the basic meaning of the word Tep is mouth, and fundamentally meant 'The beginning or commencement of anything."


Over the years I have become interested in Quantum Physics: it suggests TIME - and SPACE are but an illusion. The rites and rituals of ancient Egypt repeatedly speak of the "opening of the mouth," -- this was the breaking away of this illusion. The initiates and the Pharaohs were able to travel to the FIRST TIME. They knew how to experience non-locality, instantaneously. I am referring to a much older time in Egypt - 3,500 BC.


Just wondering if this rings any bells.
 
Deborah.. I have just read your post...My initial instincts on the first part of your post are.... My spiritual self has little time for the hem-ka.. On the we'b priests all I can think of is Horus.. Zep Tepi is interesting I will mediate on that... Time and space that is a fascinating subject.. Plenty to meditate about that subject in connection to the original gods They are initial thoughts I will do more work on all of them


Regards
 
Blueheart.. The following are my first thoughts .. They are of course a guess..


You would assume there is a direct link between the original gods and the pharaohs. . The original gods the sun gods after they ascended were given names and those names then became the names of the gods of Ancient Egypt. When the pharaohs became part divine they also became part of the original gods


Through this divine connection to the original gods the sun gods, the pharaohs took on the physical images of the original gods. The original pharaoh gods the sun gods came first. The pharaoh gods of Ancient Egypt came second.. I have used the term "pharaoh gods:" for the original gods to highlight the connection


As I said this is all a guess. I will do my best to learn more from my spiritual self.


Something along these lines came about at the beginning, long before there would be, or ever will be proof of such an event.


A transfer of balance and knowledge also occurred during the transition


Nobody knows who the first pharaoh was, and nobody will ever know.


The first pharaoh came long before the unification of Egypt.


A pharaoh did not have to rule to be a pharaoh..


At the beginning pharaoh was a name given to physical gods, not a ruler.. There is a huge difference


Most pharaohs were rulers but not all of them.


That is why there is so much confusion over the pharaoh's and how long they ruled for


All pharaohs were treated the same
 
Things right now are a real mess. I'm being given information by my source and have no ideas what most of it means, if it is relevant and most of it cannot be backed up by any recorded history of Ancient Egypt that I can find. For example.. My source told me the faces of the original physical gods the sun gods were never to be seen . According to my source the belief that many of the gods were given the heads of animals because of some special connection the tribes of the Nile had to the animals is completely wrong. The original tribes of the Nile and those who came after them did see the gods work within the animals and what they provided them. So it was natural for them to substitute the faces of the original gods with those of animals, most likely with animals that gave some relevance of who they perceived the gods to be. According to my source over time it all got out of hand and the animals became more godlike , and many hundreds of other animals became symbols of new gods. For me that is way out there but this is just one of many things he is talking about.
I will always report exactly what my source passes on to me and will never dress it up to suit the recorded history of Ancient Egypt and my own doubts and non understandings.
It's much the same with the word "Pharaoh". My source has told me many times Ancient Egyptians never called there physical gods and rulers "Pharaoh"
Yet he uses that word sometimes. This I do not understand.
Things are a real mess. Right now he is talking about the seed of the original gods was wide spread but diluting at the time of the unification of Egypt. I understand none of this
 
Hi John,

It is good to hear from you again. In terms of your last statement, I think the real question is what is meant by "seed"? The balance of the statement seems fairly clear. I assume that the "seed" refers to the "seed" of knowledge, worship, spiritual teachings, their unique type of civilization, and/or etc. they planted when they first came, but I'm just guessing. So, it seems that your source is saying that this was wide spread at the beginning, but had been diluted and was fading by the time of unification. However, once again, just my take on his statement.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S.... Its also good to hear from you again... When my source talks about the seed of the original gods, what he is actually referring to?. What may be important is, the original gods the sun gods were physical gods they looked human.. This has nothing to do with the event when some of the original tribes of the Nile became part of the original gods and the original gods became part of them before the gods left.. This was a spiritual event with a joining of the spirits and where the physical gods of Ancient Egypt came from

Regards
 
Hi John,
I am very intrigued by this - but busy until next week. I'll come back to it. Glad to see members coming to our new space. Welcome back.

" This was a spiritual event with a joining of the spirits and where the physical gods of Ancient Egypt came from...."
 
Hi John,

There has been a bit of a pause here, so I'm going to throw some things out here that have bothered me. I think they are relevant to this thread because of its title/subject--i.e., "receiving information from a source". So, here is the issue that is bothering me--are you placing too much trust in your "source"? I am not necessarily speaking about his information, as he seems to be a good overall source of information about ancient Egypt. I am speaking about his aims and goals. I.e., it seems to me that his ultimate goal is to prepare/recruit you for your next life into some scheme to purify Egypt and re-establish Ma'at. There may be nothing wrong there. Maybe he is just talking about a teaching and conversion mission, but somehow it all sounds a bit like he's out to make jihad and accomplish what he wants by force where persuasion doesn't work.

You have two things going on here, your own memories and what your source is telling you and urging you towards. Your own memories seem to be primarily related to the sun gods and your relationship to them. Everything you have said has indicated that your relationship with the sun gods was a relationship with higher beings, all of whose efforts were for the good of the tribes of Egypt and through them to the good of humanity. We may have different opinions about their origins and nature, but I can't recall anything that makes me doubt their overall benevolence and concern for humanity.

OTOH, what you have reported about your interactions with your source are of quite a different nature. Your source comes across as a knowledgeable if somewhat impatient man. I use the term "man" deliberately, because I do not get the impression of anything particularly god-like there from anything you've said. In fact, he seems to be a bit testy and impatient with you. And, I have a good deal of concern about his ultimate motives/goals for you, Egypt and possibly for humanity. Maybe he merely has teaching in mind, but somehow the language you have been using makes me think more of warfare, and for lack of a better word, jihad.

Jihad on its own would be bad from my standpoint, but the deeper question for you might be whether this is actually what the beings you revere seek? This doesn't sound like anything they did or ordered. So, that is my concern. Maybe it is baseless, and you can reassure me about the peaceful nature of your source's plans and goals. OTOH, if violence enters into your source's plans (even as a fall-back), can you be sure that this is something ordered by and/or that would please the sun gods? How do you know that this does not merely originate in your source and the others allied with him rather than with the sun gods?

Cordially,
S&S
 
S&S These are interesting observations. Deborah asked me about the gods. I have been thinking about that and will attempt to put a small portion of my understandings into a brief summary at another time if anyone is interested. Most of it comes from my spiritual self . It is what he experienced and observed over many incarnations into the tribes of Egypt and later into a unified Egypt. My source is always there giving his guidance, advise and reminding my spiritual self of passed events. There are no doubts in my mind my source was the instigator of me, my spiritual self returning to my spiritual roots. As he told me I was lost to them (always more than one) for many spiritual cycles. He is very important to me and we have obviously known each other for an unimaginable amount of time . As I have said he always refers to me as BB.
On this subject I think it was Blueheart who told me that its very likely we have some type of pact we both made to the gods, which I ran away from, and next time is when we will uphold our obligations to this pact we made with the gods..
I have never thought of it as the return of Ma'at, its always about returning to the truth

Regards
 
Regarding your confusion over the word pharaoh . . . That term is really something modern people fell in love with and use to mean 'ancient Egyptian king'. When your source uses it, he probably means it in that context - because what he "says" is converted into English for your benefit.

The ancient Egyptian people themselves did not really use this term, except in certain brief eras, and when they DID use it, they did not use it like we do. Pharaoh translated means 'great house.' So, they would use the word as one part of a title - He who lives in the Great House. They would never say, for instance, "Oh, mighty Great House . . . "

Does that make sense?
 
Blueheart... Good to hear from you again. Thanks for the explanation. As I said things are a real mess right now. I'm doing my best to find my through it all
My source is trying to take it all to another level, but its not working

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Hi S&S In your post when you were talking about the original gods the sun gods you said " We may have different opinions about their origins and nature" I'm interested to hear who you believe they were and where they came from, not forgetting they were physical gods who looked like pharaohs and also had lions with them

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Hi John,

Your last question opens up a big zone of “who really knows for sure” for me. I’d like to keep it all relatively simple—i.e., this physical world, and some higher planes leading in the direction of the infinite Godhead—or something along these lines. However, there are all those other stars and worlds out there, all of whom may have their own (and are reputed to have their own) physical and/or etheric, astral, etc. inhabitants—and some of which may have the latter and not the former. Then there is the idea that we actually live not in a universe, but a multiverse, so that there is not just the physical universe that we see but a multitude of physical universes that are in some respect only marginally (if at all) in contact with each other. Each of these universes may have huge numbers of worlds with their own higher planes, etc. and etc. And, the foregoing is just the tip of the iceberg of possibilities.

As the old saying puts it: “Big fleas have little fleas to bit ‘em, and so on and so on ad infinitum.” And so go the possibilities and ideas. We exist in a reality, whether universe or multiverse, or whatever, that we have only begun to plumb and understand. There are so many possibilities that we cannot possibly come close to pinning everything down—at least not at this stage of human knowledge and development.

So, when it comes to the ones you call the “Sun gods” I try to keep it simple. Are they good or evil? If good do they seem to manifest a more than human level of goodness, power, and/or knowledge? If so, I consider them closer to the divine than I am, whether they are “physical” or “non-physical”, come from another dimension, another plane, or another world. Are they an un-fallen, highly exalted, or greatly spiritually evolved race from some alternate reality, someplace else in the universe or multiverse, or etc.? I would find it very hard to say based on your description. About all I can say is that they seem to be “more” than human, and seemingly a great deal more than human. To the minds of the simple tribesmen that you recall, they certainly seemed to be gods and so you still regard them.

In John 10:4, Jesus says "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said you are gods'” quoting from Psalm 82:6. So, the possibility of advancing to this level is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility to me, and I hope to be there myself one day (though it certainly doesn’t appear to be any time soon!). However, where your sun gods came from and exactly what they are doesn’t seem to me to be as important to me as the fact that they seem to have been very “good” and very highly advanced, wise and powerful in comparison to us. To my mind that means that no matter what their origin, they are almost certainly closer to the ultimate God than we are, and therefore more like the divinity. Consequently, it does not seem strange to me that you would have seen them as gods, and I can’t even say that the title is contrary to my beliefs so long as it is used to refer to those that deserve it.

Anyhow, all of this brings me back to the point and query I raised a few posts back. Your source seems to be planning to involve you in a program that seems very war-like and perhaps amounts to some form of jihad (looking back at e.g., your post #281):

"Another rebirth is not far away.. out of chaos a new world of balance and knowledge will emerge. Everyone will be given a choice.. everyone.. there is only the original gods the sun gods. The truth is the only way. The warriors of the gods will lead the world out of chaos and into a new world of balance and knowledge."

So, my questions still remain. Are you sure this is what the beings you refer to as the Sun gods would want? Was your pact with them and approved by them, or was it a human pact made with other humans (i.e., your source and other followers of the sun gods) without the sun gods being directly involved in the process? Is it possible that this--the pact and conflict you are speaking about above--is not something the sun gods would approve? Is it perhaps just something that your source wants and others of the original pact want that doesn't have anything to do with the aims and essential goodness of the sun gods? How can you know for sure one way or the other?

Cordially,
S&S
 
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