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A painful life in 17th century Rome

Ileana

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I know I have not written much on this forum. I been having a turned around last year. I rekindled with a past life brother from my life as Ileana and it had a big in packed on my last year, because it has made me heal more over that life. But also it has been a wish ever since I started to fully remember that past life back to find my family and speak with them. That life has not been without pain fully to remember and many times I cried myself to sleep or just been happy over some of the more happy memories coming forth.

But this last year has been a tugging of another life, a life that first made it's hit back in 2014 during a camp week. But had been tugging many times back and forth when I really put every puzzle piece together. Ever since I was little I have hated my first given name. I always liked my middle names better, felt them more fitted to me. But my first given name has always brought a dislike for me. With times I grown to accept it.

Also I been since I can remember having a fondness for trying to write, which has many times been a true struggle, because of a congenital inner handicap that I in away considering dyselxia is to me. Even if I learned from a early age to handle it and I shall admit my love for history and fondness to want to learn more has saved me many times in the struggles that it can be. But still it is a handicap when it comes to write things or to find way to put words to my thoughts and feelings. But I love writing and has done it many times. But also looking back on my writings means to step into a soul trying to open up a bit to a past life, even thought this took much puzzling and special person to open up that door. I have had a tendency to want to write love stories, mostly those of a hopeless romances that ends up being to painful to keep writing on.

But also another a love for me has been arts, however I do not considering myself a good artist in a ways. Just find it a most enjoyable hobby and also enough to practise it at times, especially as I have a degree in art as an art teacher for 1-6th grade as well as I studied much in my last year in school before starting my university studies.

Well what has lead this one that I wrote this then? Well for really understanding my background to the believe in this life one has to understand with my background and the paths I taken with my studies over the years, especially the years from 2007-2015 when I started mostly to practise my artistic side. I am fully well aware that these can come from my artistic side of my now family. I have third great-grandmother who wrote articles and books and such, as well as her cousin a well know artist of his time especially in his homeland Finland.

But I believe this goes further down and I seen patters occurring many times that binds just not my life today together with things, but also my past life together with my present life.

This memories of what I will write down here started back in 2014, during a conversation with my boyfriend, he and I have known each other for many life times and much have happened around us both good and less happy times. We started discussing somethings and such. Being on the camp I had very little time to pay much attention to it, because of lack of network and time to be online during a camp week made me push it. But when I got home we had more discussions on the subject of a life time in Rome in 17th century. I always been drawn to the era around the 1620s and such, mostly been a special year such as 1628, it just a year that marked much, I been having thoughts on a special occasion happening in the 1628 in Stockholm with the sinking of the Royal ship Vasa. But that thought I think linger from another occasion, even if Vasa will always be one of my favourite ships to read about. Always been since I was little. But the occasion that occurred around the 1620s and especially around 1628 I feel more occurred with what I now learned about it has been centred to Rome. Because I shall admit I have had a fondness for the city Rome. I always wanted to visited it and especially the area around the Fontana di Trevi, I even have a painting my grandparents got in the 1960s during their Europe trip that I got some years ago.

But to return to my believe, the thing that made me fully start to remember a life time back in those years was the discussions I had with my bf and we end up in a heated argument over things and small pieces started to fragment up, it brought back heated argument that we used to have back in those days. But it also brought back fragments of our separating from each other after a passionate love-affair for a couple of years. In which he thought I had been cheating on him with his own brother. I was already then cheating on my husband who I had been married to for years. I can not deny I loved my husband, but sadly my love lay elsewhere too. For the crime I committed I was badly wounded in my face. What was referred to as “sfregio” and later put in one of the Casa Pia in Rome. Today I think I know which one of them I was in for a couple of months. After that I was sent back to my husband after I had sent a letter pleading my case after almost dying because of the illness that was caused of infection to the wounds and starving.

I been having memories of that day when I was given the scars in my face because of a jealous lover. I also remember well the passionate nights leading up to that day. With time I also remember conversations and even told my bf at times of conversations I happened to listen into especially one that he had with one of his dear friends about ending our romance because it was to damaging for him. But also with time that morning when I sealed my fate has become clear to me and what happened and the mistakes I made up to that day.

After my return to my husband I was changed, I devouted my life more to my husband that I was married to in that life, we lived happily and such until his death. In that life I only had one daughter, however I am not sure if it was my husbands daughter, since her father is unknown. Even thought I know that I had at least one or two miscarriages, I know I had one due to loosing much blood when I was wounded and believe I might have had one some year after I was married. It made me more unhappy in my marriage I know, because I felt horrible for not providing my husband with a child.
Not long after we first started discussing this past life, me and my bf went our own ways. We remained friends, but it left me thinking much of what occurred in that life. It also made me heal much, because I experienced much of past life healing and such. But last year we decided to open up the door that had been shut between us both for a period and a couple of months I was over to see him and we decided to start over again. It stir up memories of our happy times from back then and to be amusing I jokingly find it funny that he at times has not changed, as of his temperament is much more nicer then it was back then. But also we have learn much through our own paths, but also it has connected us together more, the fact that even past life sadness and the things that has popped up that just made thorns on our path has not separated us. As it did not do it back then for even if I avoided him for a time back then we made peace and we saw each other again after I got back and up to my death. I died before him and then my husband worked with him even some years after I got home and when my husband died I kept up his work as an artist in the sculptor business to my death. My name back then was Costanza and was married a sculptor named Matteo.

Sorry for the long post I guess it became longer then I expected it to be, but just felt to write it off and it. But I am also curious to find my family back then or anyone that I knew from that life time
 
My darling,

I know that we made-up for what happened between us them in Rome... I just wanted to let you know that I'm here if you ever need to talk (even though we always do that anyway). I love you with all my heart, and am thankful we have changed even if we are somewhat quite the same!

<3
 
<3

Thanks so much darling I am happy that we made-up for what happened and I am sorry things happened the way it happened and that I hurt you, even if I guess much piece occurred that made it such. I found more and more peace with that life time as I remember more and more about it. With times I feel awful for what I put Matteo, because he deserved a more faithful wife then I was back then. I wished sometimes that my wounds and the infection I got could have taken my life back then and not let me live on. Because even if he and I made peace to when I was returned to him after a period and I was a better wife. I feel like he deserved so much more then I could give him. I know I was more a free-spirit then I ought to have been, hopeless romantic back then that rather follow my heart then my head.

I love you with all my heart, so glad we made peace and that I am thankful that we change even if we have some similarities to back then in some ways. <3

But I wish I can give the same peace to Matteo and even to my little girl that I left behind in that life, because I left her with so many secrets that I took with me to my grave. Secrets I could never tell a living soul about.
 
387 years ago yesterday. It did not hit me really until late last night when I sat just not minding anything really. I really hate those moments when thoughts and memories hit me. I had been talking earlier about this life-time with a friend. Not more then just mere chit chat about how hard life was back in those days when almost every period could be a fighting battle. We talk about all kinds of things at times and we had talked about if one ever would write a book about a past life written from our own perspective and I said I would in that case write about this life time. Because so much happened in this life time and I feel what has been said is more then just shown from a mens perspective.

But it was not until I fully looked into my papers with scribbles I have done of that life time that I stumbled on that little note of the date I was married to Matteo. It was a beginning on a new chapter in my life, I was between 17-18 years old when I married him, he was 10 years older. Even thought I know through my studies that a girl was considering an adult earlier back then, I still get the sense that the girl who stood there by the alter that day in the church was innocent and a girl with the heavy duty of responsibility that marriage was. I know was less prepared for the duty that marriage ment when I was married. Even if my step-mother had kept reminding me and my sisters that eventually life was destined us to it. It was good match I shall admit and I cared much about him. We did live in his home town for years before we moved to Rome. I was happy when we moved back to Rome and it meant a grander opportunity for my husband. But it was a dark shadow hang over our marriage and I guess it is one of the few things that made return to that life time, because even if I have made peace over the most painful part of that life where I paid the price for a fault that was not entirely mine, but I made it play out and almost cost me my life. I am not going to talk about it more, I made peace with that nightmare a while ago and I am happy and blessed to have made that peace with him. Because he mean the world to me and has pulled me through much of the things over the years. <3

But the dark shadow that still linger over that life is a guilt in that I know is not so much to do about, but it is a guilt that I wished would not have existed, because I feel guilty that in my marriage to Matteo that was for so many years, we were married between 1632-1654 and under those years I could not provided him with an heir... I know one should not feel guilt in away of things one could not change or do something about. And it was not a love-less marriage, that I know. Even if our relationship grew frosty at times when he was caught up more in work then paying attention to me. We tried to have children several times, but I guess with it working and the times it work, it end up being a miscarriage. It is partly why I after years of marriage started to have a love-affair. Before the affair ended the way it did and me sent to one of the Casa Pia I had become pregnant. Whenever it was Matteo or my lover I do not know. But it lead to miscarriage, because of the blood loss and the illness that I end up having. It was not until 1655 when my husband was dead that I finally was able to give birth to a happy and healthy daughter. However no record has given away who was her father, I have my suspicion who the father is. But back then I took that with me in the grave.
 
I would love to talk to you more, Ileana I knew you from one of your past lives :)
 
A portrait I found a week or so ago. It surprise me since I only seen a grainy version of it before. But this one was clear. According to the photo source where I found it in is of an unknown women done by Justus Suterman 1645. I believe this is a portrait done of me back then. In the end after I was returned to my husband he had accomplish much and had his own bigger business. If this is me in the portrait I would have been around 31 years old. Ever since I saw the grainy version of a while back I just been drawn to it and just been such a odd feeling seeing it. It just feels right. It is hard to explain it.
 

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Well I been thinking much of posting this, but well since April is over and I honestly have had a crazy week with lots of flashes to different places and memories from my past and since I posted the portrait that I found, I might as well post the most realistic object that exist that truly showed how I looked like back then.

This life still effects me and even if I have talked it over with people and I have been able to place the nightmare from that special morning when my life turned around in that life. It is only fair to post the thing that in away cemented a romance that was dangerous from the beginning to the very end. This the bust, technically the only thing that exist showing how I truly looked like in that life. The bust was done by Gian Lorenzo Bernini and is of his lover Costanza Piccolomini done at the height of their romance 1636-1637. When seeing this bust I keep seeing the romantic nights and the happy occasions. But also the pain of the early morning that so doomed me to what became a living hell for several months and only ended when I was almost on the brink of death.

When I got home in April of 1639 my life changed drastically, I used to be social quite much before it. But I withdraw much and it took long time before I openly went outside again. Places I loved to go to, was now places I truly avoided. I also turned more affections to my husband and up to his death I put all my romantic feeling and such towards him. He died in 1654 without us having any children that lived. I was however in 1638 pregnant when I was sent to the convent, but had due to falling ill because of the incident that happened, I had a miscarriage. It was not until a year after my husband death that I finally had a child, my only daughter. I protected her with my life and even thought my life had changed much over the years since my young years. I always tried to protect her from learning about my life before 1639.

By 1645 my husband had started working for Bernini again, after years away due to the scandal and that he got more request for his own and did not need to work for someone else. But in 1645 he got less request and soon found himself working for Bernini and it made it also harder for me to avoid the Cavlier. We therefor meet again and we made peace of what had happened back in 1638. He was married by this time and had a wife and lots of children. I was happy for him, since because of what happened between us and such I was glad he had got married. Even if I sometimes think that we might have got into a romance again after we meet again, but not on the same level as back when we first had the romance in my youth.

I am glad and so happy that we are at peace and even thought many of the memories I had of that life has been those nightmare the morning when I was laying in my bed nearly dying for the scars from the slashing and the period of being in Casa Pia. But lately the flashes has been more on the memories around and the happier ones.

The second photo I sent is one of my favourite sculptures my husband did and it was done 1652.
 

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It has been a long time since I wrote on here. Much has happened during this year both in the ups and downs of life. Whenever things are ups and downs I end up thinking of things both good and bad things. It is one of my faults and something I ought to not really do because it usually ends up making me upset. This life has un-dobutable been the life where I have the most guilt, the guilt that I did even in the beginning let my heart rule my life. To the end leaving my only child an orphan because of my life that made my health so damaged that a fever and cold cost me my life.

I started in the beginning of this year to write my own story in the years before my marriage and such, it helped me remember the happier and carefree days of my father and stepmothers home. Even if the life there was not easy, I lost a few siblings in the early years, but still it was a loving and caring home. I also have re-visited a few happy days of the years I got spent with my little sunshine Nina, the protection I put her under the days spent in the exploring the city. Her curious happy laughter over something funny that she found out as she would sometimes sit in the working studio at times when it was permitted. It is those sunny days I wish to most remember these days, not the sad days when it all ended.

It has also been on my mind much the city of Rome and been thinking many times to go there, it is on my list of places to travel to and hopefully I can go there soon because I can imagine it will give my heart and soul some peace.
 
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