Astral OBE's

[dking777]

Do you think the ability to have OBEs can be learned, and if so, do you think it's "dangerous"?

I have gone through several phases in my life 'separated' by a mental block of 'forgetfulness.' At the age of 18, I had friends from my neighborhood come up to me and claim we had shared "OBE's" in the past. Since I had no memory of it - I didn't know. They said that I had 'taught' them how to do it.

Then around the age of 20, old habits started to come to the surface again. I moved to a new city and I eventually started showing up in some new young friends 'bedrooms' at night - and showed them the reality of 'spiritual communique' without one person having to 'die' to achieve a message from a 'living spirit.' (My argument was that the spirit is alive in the body prior to death. According to the 'ghosts' of my friends, it was something we were doing together prior to their death. It wasn't anything new to me - even though I couldn't recall the past experiences.)

Then again, in 1986 - I convinced a friend from Seattle of the reality of communicating with one another via - OBE. In my adult life, I had a desire to show other people that you could communicate with the 'spirit' of a departed loved one, to verify my testimony of contact with the spirits of my friends who had passed over. In 1994, the death of a friend put an end to my OBE's and started a new phase of total forgetfulness. Now, I am in the phase of recollection and reflection and I am amazed that I could forget so much 'mystical and spiritual' experiences.

At this point in my life - I wouldn't be able to write, share or communicate any sort of instructions on the steps to make it happen. (It is not something I do in my old age. :laugh: ) It was something I learned to do at the age of six and it just came naturally to me when I was a child. For me, it became a way to validate my testimony to close friends about my 'near-death' experiences. I would tell them, "I don't have to die to send my spirit out at night while my body is sleeping."

There are instructions I do recall now. I always got them to give me consent to show up so they would be expecting my 'spirit.' We always had a test laid out because I knew that when they woke up in the morning - doubt would do a tap dance on their head. So, we would set up test questions where we didn't know the answers to the others question. Many of my friends claimed I taught them, but I don't look at my spirit and myself as one and the same. I felt it was something 'my spirit' taught my friends while my 'body and mind' was sleeping in a bed at home. (Being a child of the world was one thing, being a 'child of light' was another. To get out the body, I had to take off the 'worldly mask' and shed the worldly identity.)

The only 'danger' I am aware of now - is warning my friends not to talk about our 'secret' to the wrong minds - or they would be looked at with superstition from some in the world and accused of being a 'warlock' in league with the 'devil' himself.

I have one memory of going OBE with a friend and we encountered the 'critters' (or dark spirits.) He got all scared because he wasn't used to the sight of them. I just laughed because I knew they couldn't harm you when your not in the body - other than through intimidation. I am under the impression now that they only feed upon the 'dark energy' that is produced though a physical body. I showed my friend how to treat them like 'stray' dogs and show them who was boss. The trick was the same as being in a body. Just laugh. They hate the sound of joy. If they are 'persistent' in approaching you - I would just 'whistle' a spiritual tune that was a beacon call to the light - and the "Light of Creation" would echo that silent and unpronounceable name of Creation off my spirit - and those 'things' would leave skid marks trying to clear a path.

I can recall telling my friends they had to 'say' a poem outloud for the sake of consent and protection. I wasn't religious back then so I didn't use words that would reflect religion. Most the time, the fellows didn't understand what it was they were saying. I would tell them, "In plain English, it means you are asking for God to cloak you with a shield of invisible protection." With that in mind, I never felt or encountered any danger. I always felt God had a watchful eye on me (as a child) and learned not to worry about it. When I was a child, I always had to have a 'pure motive' or sincere intentions. I would always state to spirit (in an effort to get permission) that I had in mind to help my friends learn the 'true reality' and help forge a path for my friends to have an intimate relationship with their Creator.

My attitude as a child and young adult was - to put God first in all matters pertaining to spirit. I felt that if I slipped out of my 'body' at night and got into some sort of 'trouble' and made a mess of it - then the burden of responsibility fell on my shoulders and I had to pay the consequences. If, (on the other hand) I put God first in the matter - then - what ever happened from it - the burden of responsibility fell on God's shoulders and I was just along for the ride. So, with my friends, I felt I was just playing a role of messenger because there was always some sort of 'divine' message I was to pass on to my friends pertaining to their own faith, hope and path to an intimate relationship with their Creator. As a child and young adult - I never looked at it as something I did for myself as much as it was something I was involved with on behalf of the 'higher truth' and helping those I cared about find a path to that 'higher truth' I had been blessed to witness in my growing years.

So, my answer to your question is - without God by your side - it is possible there could be a 'dangerous' element involved as with all things in life. But, with God by your side - no worries.

Sincerely,
DKing

 

[dking777]

There was one incident in 1978 at the age of 18, just a week or so after my 'near-death experience.' I was having trouble recalling my memories of personal associations. I crossed paths with someone who had been very close to me in the months leading up to the 'car accident.' When I saw him, I recognized him from my NDE. My claim was - his spirit had came to me during my NDE and was with me during a part of it, or - my spirit had came to him while I was dead and our spirits had a dialogue with one another. He couldn't recall it and was one of the skeptics about my testimony of dying and going beyond. He wanted to debate the issue and I was looking for answers within and I told him, "I will send my spirit to you again and then we can talk about the facts."


Instead of having an OBE together - I was going to have an OBE and show up in a way that his human mind could hear and see my spirit (or ghost.) I told him to create a desire inside of him for the sake of a question he wanted to ask me in the past but hadn't yet. I told him, "When the time is right, my spirit will show up - ask your spirit the question - and then my spirit will pop out of thin air and give you the answer so your stubborn human mind can see and hear what I am talking about. Your dang mind is going to be doing tap dances on your head with doubt - but - a part of my mind is going to be there and witness the whole thing and I will be able to tell you about it - even though I am going to be miles away when it happens."


The day came and I was miles away when the episode went down. I got in my car and drove to my friends house honking the horn. When he came out of the house, he was acting normal and like nothing happened. I told him, "Your a sly one. Your not going to admit what just happened to you - are you?"


He told me to tell him what just happened and I described the scene to him with vivid detail. My spirit showed up in his room and was 'invisible' to his sight. My spirit got the question and then 'appeared' to walk through a wall and stood before him only long enough to 'whisper' the answer and then disappeared into thin air in front of him. Because my spirit was invisible - he didn't notice it was still there - and I followed him around and watched as he spoke to both his parents in Spanish. (My friend was Latino and big on the Catholic faith.) When I told my friend what he had said to his parents - I told him in English. He knew I was bilingual like him and asked,


"How did you know what I said to my parents if you don't understand Spanish."


I told him,


"My spirit got the interpretation and passed it on to me and my mind. My spirit is multi-bilingual. If it can master the language of our Creator - worldly languages are a breeze."


I watched as my friend lost control of his knees and feel to the ground. I had been telling him I had a message to pass on to him from a 'spirit' and his superstitious mind was against hearing anything about it. He finally asked who was the spirit and what was the message. I told him,


"It was your dang spirit. You think you would know enough to open your eardrums and listen to your own dang spirit without having to get me involved your two's private affair. I promised for the sake of our friendship I would deliver that message to you and didn't realize you was going to be as stubborn as a goat about it."


The message was about a personal prayer my friend had with God. That was the first (but by no means the last) time I was a medium for spirits of human's who hadn't passed on and 'given up the ghost' so to speak. Of the 500 or so spirits I had contact with from 1978 to 1983 - a big percentage was the spirits of people walking around in a human body.


For me, it always about 'being a messenger' on God's behalf due to a private prayer request the person had given over to spirit. My friend said that it 'blew his mind' away - but it was exactly the answer to the question he had put to God.


I wasn't very 'religious' back then because I didn't understand the lingo of that organized movement. I don't think God cares what religion you are when you want to be in 'service' to spirit. I feel God has all sorts of tricks up his sleeve when he needs to break though the 'thick skull' of people and answer their call to him.


Sincerely,


DKing