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Its easy to paint the Nazis in broad strokes tanker. Its easy to see them as moustache twirling villains. Look at Where Eagles Dare or Indiana Jones or whatever. They are the real life equivalents of Ming The Merciless in popular culture. Look at the Nazi propaganda machines influence on the Empire in Star Wars. Nazi hate is considered acceptable and permeates the culture. Unfortunately that means that nonNazi common soldiers such as yourself are tarred with the same brush. Also, your armies lost. To the victors go the spoils.

Just remember that in 2018 Germany is a leader in the European Union. Over seventy years ago that would have been an impossible dream. It was a fractured, subjugated Europe at war with itself. Nowadays Germany lives in relative peace with its neighbours. Times have changed.

The other day I was having a drink with a friend and a Gordon Ramsey video came on You Tube. My friend started spouting sectarian hate. I found his attitude completely parochial, outdated and damaging. Even today, in the Republic Of Ireland, some people hate the British. I have no such ill will towards them. Particularly British women like Kate Beckinsale...hubba hubba. ;)

I just see my friend as being closed minded and judgemental and unfortunately a hatred of a race for the sins of their forefathers is unavoidable in some circles.

I was a soldier, you were a soldier and we are relating to how we feel about that. That's the truth of our experiences and, in your case, if you encounter people that are blinded by over seventy year old hate pity them. They having no idea that they are perpetuating the problem just like their ancestors did at Versaille.

Our experiences give us a larger picture. That's means we now have the opportunity to be the best men we can be. Pity those among us who can't see what we see, they are the blind leading the blind.
 
Yea tanker. Its seems to me that the leading nations of the world need a "bad guy" to define them. Many people get caught up in that rhetoric. In that sense it is no different to the propaganda levelled at the people in the early 30s in Nazi Germany. Its just democracies doing it nowadays therefore they are considered 'good' by the majority in the western world.

Here is a clip about Star Wars and Nazi Parallels:


I've only watched two war films about the fights I fought. The first, Michael Collins, was like a live action cartoon. The second, The Wind That Shakes The Barley, was much better although maybe a little too modern in some ways.

The opening of Saving Private Ryan resonates with me. It encapsulates the organised chaos of war for me. I didn't fight in WW2 but I appreciate what Spielberg was trying to convey. I think its true to a soldiers experience ( although most of the battles I remember were on ancient battlefields ).

Did you read the Wolfe Tone link I gave you in another topic? I don't believe that any enemy has the capacity to rob ones self respect and dignity. They can treat you like an animal, they can enforce their will, they can threaten those you love, they can do numerous degrading and disrespectful things, but so long as you remain true to yourself and your principles they can't rob you of everything, they can only torture and kill you.

I say hold your head up high and feck the begrudgers.
 
Tanker, I think I understand your feelings. I'm pretty close to WWII memories in this lifetime where my father was in the Pacific conflict in the Navy, my first father-in-law a soldier in the Rainbow division in Europe, and my current father-in-law enlisting as a youth at war's end where he ended up in the weather service of one of the branches. None spoke disrespectfully of their opponents that I recall although I recall my first father-in-law's reaction/expression as he related coming upon a "concentration camp" and the emaciated occupants. My mother's family were recent immigrants from Germany so I was somewhat confused as to who were the "bad guys" - as if atrocities were only done by our opponents. The newsreels of the day did all they could to define us as the "good guys" and it will take some time for all of that to dissipate. Personally, I'm pleased to see how well both Germany and Japan have regained a prominence and respect within my lifetime.
 
I often get caught up in the conversations and forget the specific topic of the thread. I had meant to comment on the OP because my experiences in "remembering", although brief and unsubstantiated, gave me a broader outlook than my current experience presented. It helped me through some of the dark-times knowing that there was a reason for what was happening.
I find it strange that none of my experiences or "memories" are specific enough to be scientifically proof-positive that reincarnation is real, my experiences seem only being able to fit within few such beliefs. I have tried several times to be regressed in order to get some kind of verification and have asked my guide, and deceased people that were close to me when alive, to help me gain further insight - only to feel/understand that I have all that I need.
 
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I often get caught up in the conversations and forget the specific topic of the thread. I had meant to comment on the OP because my experiences in "remembering", although brief and unsubstantiated, gave me a broader outlook than my current experience presented. It helped me through some of the dark-times knowing that there was a reason for what was happening.
I find it strange that none of my experiences or "memories" are specific enough to be scientifically proof-positive that reincarnation is real, my experiences seem only being able to fit within few such beliefs. I have tried several times to be regressed in order to get some kind of verification and have asked my guide, and deceased people that were close to me when alive, to help me gain further insight - only to feel/understand that I have all that I need.
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I recently read Deborah's reincarnation webpage. Has so much clarity on her previous lives, quite impressive considering self regression doesnt work for me and im unable to unlock any memories, I had a vision of a fountain in ancient times briefly, however i dont trust that as i have a keen interest in anicent civilisations and been to a lot of places like that.
And ive also gone off the OP..appolgies
 
That can't be helped tanker. If Nazi Germany had won the war how people view it would be very different. Its just the way life goes.

As it stands the Nazis and their armies can be painted in two dimensional ways. A couple of weeks ago I came across a colourised picture of a concentration camp survivor and its was like a slap to my face. To see the inhumanity the Nazis had for other souls is still shocking all these decades later. That's what your up against. The industrialised murder/genocide they committed may have been unknown to you and many other soldiers but the Nazis made it very easy for everyone to point and say "look what they did. They have to be evil". To look at it any other way means individuals would have to look within their own hearts and ask themselves tough questions about themselves. Much easier for post war propaganda in media to paint them as purely evil much like the Empire in Star Wars. It means nobody outside of that regime had to take personal responsibility thus the cycle of war and bigotry continues.

I don't know if you've ever seen the film Starship Troopers:


It is a satire on fascist propaganda. It has shallow characters and a gung ho attitude to the extermination of another species. They were aliens so it was easy to dehumanise them. By the same token Germany dehumanised the Jews, the Allies dehumanised the Germans etc.

We two are very lucky tanker. We've been given the awareness of past lives. That means we can look beyond nationalism and propaganda. We can see the truth that we are both human and we've both done atrocious things in the name of God, destiny and country. We know we can no longer point fingers at other people and judge them by narrow standards. A whole new world opens up. One in which we can recognised the brotherhood and sisterhood of all humanity without the need to be tied down to an ideology.

Perhaps you remember your life as a German soldier to bring to life for people the struggles and heroism of men like you.

Its been a century since the War Of Independence in Ireland and on the centenary of 1916 both sides in that conflict, as well as civilians, were honoured. Maybe its too soon for Germany to join the world to honour its dead patriots because WW2 is still within living memory. I'm sure once the last of that generation dies out people will become more objective about the common soldier...but I doubt the Nazis will be seen as anything but evil. The Nazis really are a huge lesson from history but that doesn't mean the voices of the ordinary German will be forever silenced. Give it time.
 
You are generous with your comments tanker, I wish that I felt wise, I'm barely wise enough to recognize any of the bounds of my ignorance, but thank you anyway. My memories from seventy-five years ago when I recalled being separate from my body and the experience of having my guide warn me of an impending "accident" are more paranormal than reincarnation experiences. My memory (imagination?) of being part of a group levitating a stone from where it was quarried, with the use of sound, and other things that I just knew to be true have added a little breadth but no depth.
 
Many people wouldn't want a part of it tanker. I wouldn't. I'd rather die than be involved in such things.

Yup, it was certainly evil. Racial purity, the killing of children, the mentally ill etc. Its an intolerable circumstance and its doubtful the Reich would have lasted for a thousand years. They would run out of enemies and collapsed in on themselves. Its unfortunate many men aligned themselves with a country and a Führer that betrayed everyone, even their own supporters in the end. But again, I was part of the 'good fight' and I still have the blood of innocents on my hands, the same as other people.

The film Starship Troopers looks even uglier than the trailer tanker. I guarantee it will leave a bad taste in you mouth, but the director lived his childhood under Nazi occupation so he had much to say about it. Personally I think that film is a work of genius. Its worth checking out. Also by the end of the film you will most likely have a different perspective on 'bugs' of that size than the one you just expressed.

That's how I believe humanity will be, when we leave down our weapons of war, the toys of our infancy. Its a long way off though and we may not survive as a species to see it. Who knows though?

Nazi architecture, uniforms, rallies, everything, was awe inspiring. What they did with aesthetics hadn't been seen since the time of the Roman Empire in my opinion. The problem is that the devil comes as a handsome angel, not a slavering beast. That's how he gets you. The Nazis had an evil charisma and thats overpowered any valour the ordinary German soldier had.
 
I can relate tanker. In spite of all I've learned in my current life about the nature of conflict I still get a kick out of remembering my various conflicts and victories. There's something very attractive about things that we know to be wrong. Its the nature of the beast I guess.

Still...its a complete mystery to me why God would create a creature such as a human being. Someone who gets a thrill out of bad things. Someone who is influenced by the crowd mentality whether they are independent or not. I've been luckier than you in one sense though. In my recent lives I've been indoctrinated with Republican ideals not Nazi aesthetics so its easier for people to see my various incarnations as being the 'good guy'. Inspiration can be a double edged sword.

That's an interesting sculpture. I haven't seen anything that's really made an impression on me in a very long time.
 
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Yes, that's a very interesting perspective, Jim. I didn't know the director of Starship Troopers lived his childhood under Nazi occupation. Perhaps I ought to watch it, although I'm not sure I want to. If you think the aesthetics of the architecture, rallies etc. was awe inspiring, all I can say is it's ten times that if you were there within it. Against my will my heart soars even now. It's very hard to convey the way it could overwhelm all the senses. Clever, but lethal. I don't approve of it, but I'm drawn to the sight. The beauty of evil, as they say. We need to be on our guard, constantly. I believe it opened up some pathway to something way beyond what they created. It was more than the sum of its parts. I felt that, even being in a huge, ordered assembly of tanks. Perhaps Benjamin will know what I'm on about. If you lacked any personal courage, being a part of it lifted you beyond your abilities.

The nearest thing in atmosphere I've seen in this life - and this is purely personal - is a monumental sculpture by Michael Sandle. I'm a great fan of his work. I saw this sculpture, called Der Trommler (The Drummer), without knowing then what it was called. It was standing alone in a huge room in a gallery, years ago when it must have been on tour. I was alone too with it there, and I gasped when I saw it. I actually thought it must have been a representation of some ancient god of war, it was so powerful. Photographs of it don't convey that, but it's a work of genius. It brought back feelings I'd forgotten. War. Worship. Death. It's now in the Tate in London.

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Dear Tanker,

Yes indeed! I do know what you mean by that. It was a carefully crafted regime, and the aesthetics were indeed a strong part of the whole recipe. The uniforms, and the large rallies are what I remember the most. It did make you feel part of something much larger than your own little person. Same thing goes for the feeling of raw power you'd feel when part of a combat formation. I guess, from the point of view of an officer, having under your command a large force was a very unique feeling. But yeah.. what a shameful use we made of this natural ability of men to commit to the group they identify to.

On a larger note, to answer to the main question of this topic: How did I benefit from remembering another human's life from the past?

Well, there was three main 'periods' I can identify in my present life:
- when I didn't know what was happening to me, and I had no "acceptance" of the visions and emotions I was feeling, it was very hard. I thought that the battle scenes and the feelings of remorse, shame and anger/sadness were a way for my mind to express the hardness of the life situations I was facing. I thought, to be honest, that I was going crazy. I thought that I was drifting towards serious mental health problems, as the visions were getting more intense and more frequent. It led me to drug use and overall self-destructive behaviours (such as withdrawing from my social circles and career path)
- when I got around the fact that these memories were closely matching the recorded life of the soldier I think I was, it was very hard to handle because I am today a very sensitive, emotional and kind person. I could not really bear the feeling of guilt and waste that I was experiencing. It was a sad era, contemplated from the perspective of a man who was at the forefront of Nazi Germany warfare machine. But it was a fascinating journey of investigation of research, because I could finally stare at my inner demons right in the eye. I did not do so much research on the WW2 period per se, as I had a rather good understanding of Eugen's path, actions and thoughts, but I felt a very strong need to understand, on a larger scale, what events led to Germany growing the cancer of Nazism. Because, and even though I fully appreciate that Eugen's actions were of his own making and he bore the responsability throughout his/my journey to the life after life, there were circumstances that led his generation to turn to revenge and inflict to Europe's people a great deal of suffering. And I needed to understand this. It has greatly changed me, on a personal level, because I now understand that we are responsible for the environment we give to our children. If we plant the seeds of hate, we shall harvest violence and suffering.
- The most meaningful period, in which I now happily live in, came after I had lots of visions of what happened to Eugen once he died and our soul was purged of the evil he witnessed and practised. It is a very long process, one I can hardly describe in such a quick comment I'm writing, but it made me understand that we are spiritual beings, and it offered me the gift of seeing what our nature is. I do believe that this was the greatest gift I have yet received, and it made me fully accept what happened in this previous life and the reason why I suffered in my lifetime (now). The universe we live in is full of love and acceptance, and we are, each and everyone of us, an actor in it. We come to learn, we come to give and receive , and ultimately to grow. \

Once I experienced all of these three phases, I finally felt that I was set free and given peace. It's funny because, before all this, I used to think that peace, true peace, the inner peace, was some kind of destination, or goal. I thought that it was something I was to achieve as some kind of "end objective" to make my life complete. But I realized that this peace was there the whole time, buried in memories of blood and violence, and it is something that each and everyone of us is given. Funny enough, this peace is now a strong fuel for me to live a beautiful, meaningful and compassionate life.

I sometimes see posts here of people who are still suffering a lot from their memories, and I feel for them, and pray that everyone of them will find within them the peace that we all carry, because we are part of it. I pray that they will forgive themselves and carry on living this beautiful gift that is life as a human body on this beautiful planet.

It also made me understand how similar one can be to his previous incarnation, and yet express it in such a different way! I find that I have a lot of shared traits with Eugen. And yet, while life's circumstances led him to lead fellow Waffen-SS soldiers on many bloody battles, here am I now living in China and taking care of little kids who suffer from cancer and other pathologies. What an interesting trajectory I find.

Peace to all of you, and thank you all for sharing your life stories :)

Benjamin
 
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