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Putting the pieces together

Karoliina

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Hello to all,

I'm trying to do research of a past life that probably took place in Estonia in the 13th century. BUT this is only guessing. I have also got hints about lives in other parts of Eastern Europe, that is Ukraine, Slovenia and Poland (Kraków to be more precise), and I'm not sure about the century. It could be as recent as 16th century as well.

I've had a couple of visions and one dream of that life. I believe I was a peasant and rebelled against some conquerors and probably died doing that. Both of the visions have been inside my (then) house and are not very helpful. All I can say, is that the small house is made of wood and we are quite poor. In another vision I come inside and see a woman, probably my wife cooking. I felt quite physically that I wanted to have sex with her, which felt odd, because it was a bit different from the sensations I get in my female body in similar situations. And I'm straight and the woman wasn't really attractive in my current self eyes or to modern standards. In another vision I went upstairs (a small attic), where my wife was in bed with our newborn baby. I said my goodbyes to them and was sad. I think I never saw them again, that I went to a fight or a rebellion of some sort and died.

I'm not sure if my dream was about the same life, but I'm quite certain again that I'm in Eastern Europe and that I'm a man. I'm being buried. I don't know if I'm dead or alive. I feel ok, so I guess I'm dead already, but I watch from my grave - a hole in the ground - how some men are piling rocks and stones over the grave. Somehow I think these men are Czechs, but I'm not sure. I don't even know for how long people from that area have been called or have called themselves Czechs. First I thought they must have been my enemies, probably because I thought I was maybe buried alive, but now as I think how at ease I was, I think they probably were "my people". And I don't think enemies would go through the trouble of piling stones above a grave.

Ok, this is a long post again, but I wanted to ask if anybody knows about this burial style in Eastern Europe? The rocks were above the earth's surface. I tried to google that, and at least there has been something called "stone graves" in Estonia's history, but I couldn't find pictures, so I'm not sure if those look the same. And I don't know about the time frame of that burial style either. And of course I would love to hear if someone remembers a peasant life about that time in Eastern Europe..

Karoliina
 
Hello Karoliina,

The description sounds like what is known as burial cairns. From what I've read, I believe this was a common practice throughout Europe, and although the following description is from Victoria in Canada, I thought it might help.

BURIAL CAIRNS:
Another type of prehistoric site common in the Victoria area were burial cairns or mounds composed of boulders, stones and dirt. These cairns occurred in many different shapes and sizes and were often located on prominent hillsides. They varied in diameter from one to ten metres and were up to two metres in height.
Beneath these cairns a body was usually placed in a shallow grave lined with stones. Rocks of various sizes and dirt were placed over the body and then large boulders placed around or on top of this cluster.

I will try to find pictures for you as well.

Ailish
 
Thank you SO much Ailish! I really have to go to bed now, but I'll look the Internet tomorrow for the burial cairns and let you know if I find something.

This was so nice of you, thanks!

Karoliina
 
:D Hi Karoliina,

www.darkisle.com has some photos of all different types of cairns. The one called Duncraigaig cairn may resemble what you are looking for. Good luck and keep us posted ;)

Ailish
 
Thanks again Ailish!

I took a look at the site and it was interesting. I actually would have imagined the stone piles higher, but I wouldn't really know, because I was looking at it from below. So maybe..

I had the time to google a little and found similar cairns in Estonia! When I have time, I'll try and find out from which era they are.

I have been really busy today and I didn't have time for more research, and now I'm going to see my friend with a nice bottle of wine, so I don't know if I manage to come to the computer today. But if not tonight, I'll be back tomorrow.

Karoliina

Ps. Ailish, I thouhgt it was really funny when you said somewhere here on the forum that you have a crush on Finnish ice hockey goalie Miikka Kiprusoff, because we would always make fun of him and his brother Marko (who is an ice hockey player too), since they are so quiet and serious :laugh: . But I have to admit he is a really good goalie and of course, he is Finnish, so I have to go :thumbsup: . And he is actually not as bad as his brother..
 
I have been looking for a picture of a right kind of a grave, but haven't succeeded. Again, I can't be positive how the grave looked like on the outside, but I think it was like a pile of rocks. Most cairns seem to be too big and low. Will continue looking.

Ailish, I hope you didn't mind my comment about Kipper - we don't make fun of him in a bad way. Not at all.

Love,

Karoliina
 
Hey Karoliina,

Ah, Kipper, sweet, sweet Kipper!!!! No, I don't mind, I think it's funny! And soooo true. He's really quiet (but oh so cute ;) ). After a game all the hockey players go to a pub and hang out. They get all rowdy and very friendly with the fans...but not Miikka. He's sitting in the corner away from all the people, reading a book & having a beer. I thought goalies were supposed to be the wild ones...someone forgot to tell him that :D

I'll keep looking this afternoon for more examples of cairns. Maybe we should try searching for drawings instead of actual sites. They are so old that they probably look nothing like they should.

Ailish
 
Cairns

Try this link. There are a bunch of cairns in the Scotland section, but there are also some cemetery-like places in the Italy "Various" section that are rather interesting, too. Maybe something in these pages will help?

Good luck,

Lib
 
Thank you both so much for help!

Still no luck, I guess.. But you're right "Kipper girl", they wouldn't necessarily look the same now than they did. The last picture of the site you sent could be quite close.

I think the problem is that at least most of the cairns are tombs and I was in a small hole that was covered with rocks or stones. I _think_ it was like one metre high pile or something, but otherwise no bigger than a regular one man grave. I think that graves like that wouldn't make it for hundreds of years, and because I was poor, the grave could've been just anywhere, I mean not necessarily in a graveyard or some other holy place, so maybe I'll never find out. Unless I have another dream or vision.

But I think I'll continue with my research anyway.. Thanks again Lib and Ailish!

Karoliina
 
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