Hi All,
Some of the questions posed by Ritter to John on another thread lead me to to attempt a summary of my conclusions and deductions based on what has been coming out on this extremely long thread. The summary is pretty long as well. I trust John will correct any errors that he finds and elaborate on any matter I have raised that he considers might need further explanation.
So, . . . my initial contacts with John were on a prior thread that related to his past life memories of dying unpleasantly in WWII. At that point there was also much said about his sense of betrayal by God and hatred of religion in general. He claimed to be an atheist, but his vehemence betrayed him. His attitude was not the cool snobbish superiority of the atheist, but the visceral hatred of one for a real and present enemy. I always thought that there was a deeply religious person underneath, and that he had been deeply religious prior to his PL death. (He eventually agreed that he had been deeply religious in his WWII life).
However, there was something else working in the background.. At some point John began this thread related to his interactions with a spirit guide or being whom he referred to as his “source” (not in the sense of being the source of his being, but in terms of being a source of information). This thread also dealt with some of John’s other spiritual experiences and his growing memories of many lifetimes in ancient Egypt—REALLY ancient Egypt. This is a very long thread, and anyone reading it can go through it if they have the time. I will merely seek to summarize some of the salient points:
1. At some point in the very distant past prior to the founding of Ancient Egypt, the Sun gods came to some tribes living along or near the Nile. According to John this occurred with the coming of a second Sun into the sky. The Sun gods themselves had tremendous wisdom and powers, but they were physical and human in appearance, though gloriously so. They used the Ankh as a “tool” that interfaced with a round “dial” with symbols that fit upon it and could be used to direct their powers for certain effects. The Sun gods are the source of Ancient Egypt and they were its original gods.
2. The spirit that is now incarnate in the physical as John Tat was there when they came, and he became one of their earliest devotees and followers. He was their follower, priest, warrior and worshiper through many lifetimes—possibly for 1000s of years. During this time, according to, and thanks to, the received wisdom and techniques of the Sun gods he seems to have had many “mirror” lives. These were lifetimes when his memory and sense of identity was apparently continuous, so that he did not experience the amnesia that is the norm now (and probably back then for those who were not the recipients of these teachings and favored by the Sun gods). Each lifetime was not, therefore, shut off from those that preceded it. His personality and memories were seemingly continuous as was his name, which can be rendered in our language as “BB”. Thus, the outer physical identity (including birth name) of the body BB took was unimportant to him, it was merely his latest manifestation in the physical. BB was of very high rank and John was to find that BB was of much higher rank than his “source” who was also of Ancient Egypt, though probably not as ancient as BB. In fact, it seems that John’s source and “others” in the spirit realms may have been seeking BB for many, many years. For whatever reason, BB is instrumental to the planned return of the Sun gods to this planet to restore Ma’at (harmony and order). I am uncertain whether this plan includes more than Egypt, but it certainly seems to.
3. At some point, BB walked away from his place and position in Egypt, which was departing more and more from the true teachings of and about the Ancient gods and what he considered to be the true religion of the Sun gods. In doing so, he seems to have abandoned his mirror lives and has been subject to the same multiple lifetimes with amnesia that characterize the rest of us. However, it does not appear that he had been abandoned by the Sun gods, who have apparently been seeking him for an indeterminate time through their emissaries in the earth bound spirit realm (the “others” mentioned above). Nor does BB seemed to have changed a bit since he immersed himself in oblivion. He seems to be the same “personality”. It is a personality which is ancient and not “modern” in the least. BB seems to find no distinction or conflict between worshiping the Sun gods in their temples, doing good to their followers, and cutting off the heads of unbelievers and enemies. He is, in fact, a spirit that has, after slaughtering them, relished the taste of their blood mixed with the sweat on his arms. So, definitely not a spirit to appeal to snowflakes. As a matter of fact, I must admit that I would definitely choose John over BB any time, though John apparently does not feel that way.
4. The Sun gods and BB consider the physical world/universe to be more important than the spirit world (non-material universe?). However, the Sun gods use the non-material realm for their purposes, which include traveling via specialized techniques “in the light” as spirits between the stars at the speed of light or even greater speeds. In fact, they consider the idea of traveling between the stars in any other way to be impractical if not preposterous due to the distances involved. Upon arrival, they apparently take physical form in suitable locales via physical mothers like others do. Thus, for them as well as their followers, control of the incarnation process equals control of a world or planet. This is something they lost. According to BB, there was something tantamount to war between the gods of two different factions. Those who wished to promote the idea of there being a single all-powerful god over all (the bad guys according to John/BB) and those who wished to continue to promote the idea that there were multiple gods (the good guys according to John/BB). John/BB takes the position of the “bad guys” as being a complete lie and subterfuge. (Obviously, I disagree). However, the beings supporting (or supporting the idea of) a Supreme Deity have gained control of the process of incarnation and now control this planet from that standpoint, blocking direct entry of the Sun gods for the time being except, perhaps via some subterfuge or stratagem.
5. The entire scenario seems to be one where a particular group of beings of immense power referred to as the “Sun gods” (Archons? Archangels?) are at variance with another group that supports and promotes a Supreme Deity. So, it begins to sound like the types of ancient struggle between the Supreme Deity and “His” followers and those who are in rebellion against this Supreme Deity found in certain religions. As a matter of fact, it begins to sound perilously close to certain things pictured in the Bible. However, I will not get into the religious overtones, as that would probably belong under another board heading and might be overly contentious anyhow. One way or another, John has been given very specific instructions about what he is to do when he is dying to guarantee his translation in the light to a different domain, and will be coming back as BB under a different name as part of the plan of the Sun gods and their followers to overturn and defeat the current faction in control of incarnation and return control to BB’s faction. So, as noted, John and BB are apparently key to the “stratagem” referred to in the last paragraph. However, there are many other spirits involved, including BB’s future mother and those who will be “mothers” of the gods when they return. From what I can tell, this return (from John’s perspective) is not going to be a lot of fun for those who do not follow or are not willing to follow the Sun gods.
6. It is difficult to know how to deal with the John/BB dichotomy. I long thought that BB seemed more like a separate spirit being intent on controlling John than a PL persona of John. However, that is an idea that John strongly rejects. Hence, I tend to think of BB as a very, very strong and dominant alternate personality, and it is not difficult to see how this could happen if one persona/personality and its characteristics was reinforced over innumerable lifetimes. BB would not, in that situation, be merely “another” past life persona. Instead, he seems to have a very distinct and independent existence that overshadows and overpowers anything that has happened since. Psychologically, this seems to be a bit like what is referred to as a Dissociative Identity Disorder, but I don’t think John would see it that way, as he tends to think of BB as his real spiritual self and identity, with his current identity as John being only a transient and soon to be transcended artifact of his current physical incarnation.
I hope that the foregoing is helpful, but I cannot guaranty accuracy. I have tried to piece together what I have gleaned and deduced over a long period, but I trust that John will issue his own corrections where I may have erred.
Cordially,
S&S
PS--Ken, Blueheart, and a variety of others have been involved in this thread since its inception, so they may also have comments to add.
