By the way, in russian the root of the word animal means `zhivot' and in slavic it means `zhizn' - life!
I agree with Majic and nexus in their attitude towards the religions, I strongly feel that any religion breeds fanatism. I do not understand why do people need somebody (or something) who (or which) can do things for them, solve their problems or even *save* them. This Universe doesn't need a creator and we, souls, entities, do not need anyone to create us. If anything, we, ourselves, created this universe (or came here from another one) and live in it and experiment in it and love and fight. There is no God! or Gods to do anything for us!
I believe in reincarnation, in the fact that we decide our lifes, we can even change our reality (what is happenning) around us as we like, why do anyone need to beg someone else to do it (pray)? Certain people created religions at different times in the history of the Earth to get more power and dominate others (and quite successsfuly, it seems). Others allowed them to do it, happily relinguishing (if it is the right word) all the responsibilities they were supposed to have, forgetting that they themselves decided to have them, in the hands of the God, because it is EASIER that way! If someone wants to do evil deeds, but being conditioned by the society cannot, in the name of the religion! ohhh, you can do anything! fulfill all those dirty thoughts, anything goes in the name of the RELIGION.
I do not like the Christianity, but, at least, the worst time of it has passed, islam, on the other hand, is still young and it is the bloodiest one imaginable right now. We would have to go through many years of islamic crusades (just like it was with christians), if people would keep on happily forgetting their own responsibilities for their own selves. Even something absolutely non-religious (non-theologic) like Buddhism people managed to religify (Buddha was saying that there is no God!). Even now the followers of Rajneesh Osho began to call him `He' with the capital letter, they already started to divinize him, and that was what he, himslef, was warning them to avoid at all costs, but no! they just can't not have a Master! They have to be guided, like lost sheep, ruled and preached upon!
It is time to wake up and understand that there is NOBODY (NOTHING) to help you but yourself! No Gods, no Angels, there might be `watchers', but again, I might be that very `watcher' after my this present life, it's us again!!!!!!! But... I am afraid that my outbreak is useless, because (please, read my signature) who is blind, doesn't want to see, and who is deaf, doesn't even want to try to hear. It is very scary without the mother (God) and it takes a lot of courage to throw the chains of religion.
One of the problem that I see is that most of the people tend to reincarnate on the same planet and cannot percieve the vastness of the cosmos, they get too, sort of, provincial view of the universe; in only our Galaxy there are approximately 10^11 stars, there are estimated 10^10 - 10^11 galaxies in our observed universe, so people think there is only 1 planet inhabited??!! Why nobody thinks what gods aliens invented to solve their problems? I am sure nearly everybody here read Moudy `Out of Body Experience' (I hope it reads like that, I read it in russian translation), where one passage struck me, it was when he was out of his body and in some strange, scary environment, he tried to shoo away some spirits by crossing himself, those spirits, he narrates, laughed and said `see, he is trying to pray to his gods...'. Why nobody here, who talks about religions, remembers that? or dismisses that as an obvious evidence? They believe him about his experiences and do not belive him in his narrations? Very selectively? It should have, at least, left them thinking...
Well... anyway, it is just an accumulated outburst, sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, after all, we all have a right to our beliefs.
But who can say that animals are lower spirits? Who are we to do that? What about aliens? Are they below us? They might look like our animals...
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"...Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power.
If we have enough of it, one word uttered to us might be sufficient
to change the course of our lives. But if we don't have enough personal power,
the most magnificient piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and
that revelation won't make a **** bit of difference."
Don Juan, Castaneda's `Tales of power'.
[This message has been edited by alphiyah (edited 10-29-2001).]
[This message has been edited by alphiyah (edited 10-29-2001).]
I agree with Majic and nexus in their attitude towards the religions, I strongly feel that any religion breeds fanatism. I do not understand why do people need somebody (or something) who (or which) can do things for them, solve their problems or even *save* them. This Universe doesn't need a creator and we, souls, entities, do not need anyone to create us. If anything, we, ourselves, created this universe (or came here from another one) and live in it and experiment in it and love and fight. There is no God! or Gods to do anything for us!
I believe in reincarnation, in the fact that we decide our lifes, we can even change our reality (what is happenning) around us as we like, why do anyone need to beg someone else to do it (pray)? Certain people created religions at different times in the history of the Earth to get more power and dominate others (and quite successsfuly, it seems). Others allowed them to do it, happily relinguishing (if it is the right word) all the responsibilities they were supposed to have, forgetting that they themselves decided to have them, in the hands of the God, because it is EASIER that way! If someone wants to do evil deeds, but being conditioned by the society cannot, in the name of the religion! ohhh, you can do anything! fulfill all those dirty thoughts, anything goes in the name of the RELIGION.
I do not like the Christianity, but, at least, the worst time of it has passed, islam, on the other hand, is still young and it is the bloodiest one imaginable right now. We would have to go through many years of islamic crusades (just like it was with christians), if people would keep on happily forgetting their own responsibilities for their own selves. Even something absolutely non-religious (non-theologic) like Buddhism people managed to religify (Buddha was saying that there is no God!). Even now the followers of Rajneesh Osho began to call him `He' with the capital letter, they already started to divinize him, and that was what he, himslef, was warning them to avoid at all costs, but no! they just can't not have a Master! They have to be guided, like lost sheep, ruled and preached upon!
It is time to wake up and understand that there is NOBODY (NOTHING) to help you but yourself! No Gods, no Angels, there might be `watchers', but again, I might be that very `watcher' after my this present life, it's us again!!!!!!! But... I am afraid that my outbreak is useless, because (please, read my signature) who is blind, doesn't want to see, and who is deaf, doesn't even want to try to hear. It is very scary without the mother (God) and it takes a lot of courage to throw the chains of religion.
One of the problem that I see is that most of the people tend to reincarnate on the same planet and cannot percieve the vastness of the cosmos, they get too, sort of, provincial view of the universe; in only our Galaxy there are approximately 10^11 stars, there are estimated 10^10 - 10^11 galaxies in our observed universe, so people think there is only 1 planet inhabited??!! Why nobody thinks what gods aliens invented to solve their problems? I am sure nearly everybody here read Moudy `Out of Body Experience' (I hope it reads like that, I read it in russian translation), where one passage struck me, it was when he was out of his body and in some strange, scary environment, he tried to shoo away some spirits by crossing himself, those spirits, he narrates, laughed and said `see, he is trying to pray to his gods...'. Why nobody here, who talks about religions, remembers that? or dismisses that as an obvious evidence? They believe him about his experiences and do not belive him in his narrations? Very selectively? It should have, at least, left them thinking...
Well... anyway, it is just an accumulated outburst, sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, after all, we all have a right to our beliefs.
But who can say that animals are lower spirits? Who are we to do that? What about aliens? Are they below us? They might look like our animals...
----------------------------------------
"...Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power.
If we have enough of it, one word uttered to us might be sufficient
to change the course of our lives. But if we don't have enough personal power,
the most magnificient piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and
that revelation won't make a **** bit of difference."
Don Juan, Castaneda's `Tales of power'.
[This message has been edited by alphiyah (edited 10-29-2001).]
[This message has been edited by alphiyah (edited 10-29-2001).]